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ICQ History Log For:
8906076 iBLAMEj00
Started on Tue Mar 06 16:01:50 2001
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iBLAMEj00 24/11/20 2:00 am The web guide is many times very slow to
display.
iBLAMEj00 24/11/20 2:00 am I'm sure this will get worse as everyone
starts using it.
sam 24/11/20 2:00 am we're putting moreresources on it
sam 24/11/20 2:01 am if they hadthe same attitude when they built
the first floorof the empirestates
building,they wouldnt havebuildmorefloors:)
iBLAMEj00 24/11/20 2:01 am My plan is to have it on 100% of my pages and
then be able to compare it to the top banner
counts.
sam 24/11/20 2:01 am thats why counting doesnt start
tomorroweither
sam 24/11/20 2:01 am nice
iBLAMEj00 24/11/20 2:02 am But, I'll need that horizontal guide and
access to reports to test it :/
sam 24/11/20 2:02 am ya..nate should help u with that
iBLAMEj00 24/11/20 2:03 am He said he was working on them.
sam 24/11/20 2:03 am im trying to get stupid exit popups
working..so we dont get complaints :)
iBLAMEj00 24/11/20 2:03 am Heh, yea. I know they are supposed to only
come up once per visitor. But that isn't
happening =)
iBLAMEj00 24/11/20 2:04 am Well, it wasn't yesterday. I haven't seen any
today.
sam 24/11/20 2:04 am i know..we're working on it.. stupid server
keeps going down.. so im thinking of other
solutions
iBLAMEj00 24/11/20 2:05 am Stas won't budge till he gets the stocks in
his hands. How long you think till that
happens?
sam 24/11/20 2:05 am that takes awhile
sam 24/11/20 2:05 am hopefully we can try to speed it up
sam 24/11/20 2:05 am at least he has his dough
iBLAMEj00 24/11/20 2:05 am Like a month or 6 months?
sam 24/11/20 2:06 am month hopefully :)
iBLAMEj00 24/11/20 2:06 am k, he wouldn't give me access nor move t-100
till he gets the stocks.
sam 24/11/20 2:06 am i thought we already had access to t-100
iBLAMEj00 24/11/20 2:06 am Nope
sam 24/11/20 2:06 am well ill try to get bill to speed it up
sam 24/11/20 2:07 am i hope he'snotruiining or sabotaging it
iBLAMEj00 24/11/20 2:07 am I think he realizes that if he does that, it
will only hurt the value of his stocks. =)
sam 24/11/20 2:09 am heh
iBLAMEj00 24/11/20 2:10 am BTW, last month I passed the 13 million
impression level so you owe me another 5,000
options (not including the bonus for saving
you $80k with Stas).
sam 24/11/20 2:10 am hey ineedsome htmltricks:)
sam 24/11/20 2:10 am sure :)
iBLAMEj00 24/11/20 2:10 am htmltricks?
sam 24/11/20 2:11 am html help i mean.. basically, imtrying to get
exitpopups working.. however, the way we want
to implement it is piggybackon the
banner..andnot modify each page
iBLAMEj00 24/11/20 2:11 am I haven't got any kind of paperwork from
options yet BTW.
sam 24/11/20 2:11 am so...i havethe code forthe exit
popup..problemis that it puts t heonunload
function in the body.. can you put the body
inthe iframe of thee banner tag?
iBLAMEj00 24/11/20 2:12 am You should be able to.
sam 24/11/20 2:12 am you'reprobably inthenext batch..dontworry
about it.. you'realready alllocted for it..
iBLAMEj00 24/11/20 2:12 am But I'm not sure if it will be called for
every page change or really when the user
exits.
sam 24/11/20 2:13 am Here is the javascript code you will need to
put in your page.
(replace the body tag and title with your own)
If you want to disable the javascript from
working in a particular link, place the
following in the A HREF tag:
Home
Page
* OPTIONAL Finally, if you want the exit page
to launch as soon as your page loads, put
MakeRemoteWindow(); before the end of the
javascript like this:
}
MakeRemoteWindow();
//-->
sam 24/11/20 2:13 am trying to make that part of the banner code
iframe or something..
iBLAMEj00 24/11/20 2:13 am Can't wait to see what my bonus is for getting
rid of Stas.
sam 24/11/20 2:14 am hehe
iBLAMEj00 24/11/20 2:14 am I don't do my own iframe for the ads.
sam 24/11/20 2:14 am i mean theaverage webmaster out th4ere..
iBLAMEj00 24/11/20 2:15 am The average webmaster doesn't either. Or do
you mean non-efront sites?
sam 24/11/20 2:16 am noi mean efrontsites..
iBLAMEj00 24/11/20 2:17 am You mean to add that code to my site or just
to the ad iframe?
iBLAMEj00 24/11/20 2:17 am Because I can't add it to the ad iframe,
that's done by you guys.
sam 24/11/20 2:18 am oh i know that
sam 24/11/20 2:18 am im trying to figure out how to add to the
iframe so we can add in real medai
sam 24/11/20 2:18 am just how to make exitpopups work through
iframe.. i was wondering if u had any thoughts
iBLAMEj00 24/11/20 2:19 am The code you gave should work, I didn't check
the syntax.
iBLAMEj00 24/11/20 2:20 am The disable stuff wouldn't work on a
webmaster's site.
sam 24/11/20 2:20 am
MakeRemoteWindow();
/body>
real content for website
sam 24/11/20 2:20 am ya i got it narrowed to that now..but not
working
iBLAMEj00 24/11/20 2:21 am No it doesn't work that way.
iBLAMEj00 24/11/20 2:21 am The iframe calls a web page, that's where this
code would be.
iBLAMEj00 24/11/20 2:22 am Like the ad on my page right now is this:
iBLAMEj00 24/11/20 2:22 am That javascript code would have to be added to
that page.
sam 24/11/20 2:24 am oh that sucks.. cuz we have to get each
webmiaster to aedd it.. argh.. pain in the
neck..no creative way to add that jscript
inside the ifrma?E
iBLAMEj00 24/11/20 2:25 am Yea, add it to this page:
http://www2.efront.com/RealMedia/ads/adstream_
x.ads/www.arcadeathome.com/RunOfSite@Top?85238
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sam 24/11/20 2:25 am oh i think i see what you're saying.. meaning
all an iframe does it point to another page
huh
iBLAMEj00 24/11/20 2:26 am There's no way you can to an exit pop-up
unless you change EVERY link on EVERY page.
iBLAMEj00 24/11/20 2:26 am Yea, you can do the pop-ups there, but to do a
real exit pop-up is probably impossible.
sam 24/11/20 2:26 am but the way exitfuel.com does it.. u dont
change every link.. the use the onunload
function
iBLAMEj00 24/11/20 2:27 am But I think onunload happens when you change
pages also.
iBLAMEj00 24/11/20 2:27 am That's what this is: Home Page
sam 24/11/20 2:28 am i deleted that p rt heh
iBLAMEj00 24/11/20 2:35 am I'm trying to add it to my page.
iBLAMEj00 24/11/20 2:37 am Yea, I comes up even when you go from page to
page.
sam 24/11/20 2:37 am that sux
iBLAMEj00 24/11/20 2:37 am onunload runs every time you change a page.
iBLAMEj00 24/11/20 2:37 am Which means that EVERY link on EVERY page
would have to be modified.
sam 24/11/20 2:38 am how does exitfuel.com doesit
iBLAMEj00 24/11/20 2:38 am looking...
iBLAMEj00 24/11/20 2:43 am They do it my making their users add code to
every link on their site.
iBLAMEj00 24/11/20 2:43 am my=by
iBLAMEj00 24/11/20 2:43 am Home
Page
sam 24/11/20 2:44 am really?
sam 24/11/20 2:44 am that suxk...i didnt even see tht
iBLAMEj00 24/11/20 2:44 am Yup. I just signed up for their service.
iBLAMEj00 24/11/20 2:44 am If you want to disable the javascript from
working in a particular link, place the
following in the A HREF tag:
Home
Page
sam 24/11/20 2:44 am but thats only to disable though
sam 24/11/20 2:44 am not to enable right
iBLAMEj00 24/11/20 2:44 am If you don't add that onclick="remote=1",
every link will run the unload script.
iBLAMEj00 24/11/20 2:45 am That's to disable it.
sam 24/11/20 2:45 am but it will run it automatically right
sam 24/11/20 2:45 am so our webmasters wouldnt have to change
anything
iBLAMEj00 24/11/20 2:45 am But if you don't disable it, every link will
cause the onunload to run.
iBLAMEj00 24/11/20 2:45 am Yea, they would have to change every link on
every page.
sam 24/11/20 2:45 am if onunload runs.. it doesnt mean there would
be a popups..unless the user exits the site
sam 24/11/20 2:45 am right?
iBLAMEj00 24/11/20 2:46 am Wrong.
iBLAMEj00 24/11/20 2:46 am This is what you are missing...
iBLAMEj00 24/11/20 2:46 am onunload runs EVERY time someone changes a url
sam 24/11/20 2:46 am oh ok.. and then they on the backend probably
through a cookie figures out if the popup
already ran and stops it huh
iBLAMEj00 24/11/20 2:46 am Not just when they exit.
sam 24/11/20 2:46 am so why does exitfuel.com's homepagesay that
sam 24/11/20 2:47 am it only happens when uleave a site
iBLAMEj00 24/11/20 2:47 am Say what?
sam 24/11/20 2:47 am are they lying
iBLAMEj00 24/11/20 2:47 am No, you have to add the code to every link on
your site or it will run on every page change.
iBLAMEj00 24/11/20 2:48 am They just don't totally explain it.
iBLAMEj00 24/11/20 2:50 am Just go to my site and go from link to link,
it will run the pop-up.
iBLAMEj00 24/11/20 2:52 am Quickly because I need to turn that off before
people get pissed =)
sam 24/11/20 2:52 am does it popup prizecrazy??
iBLAMEj00 24/11/20 2:52 am Yea
sam 24/11/20 2:52 am yeah..ok iseeit
iBLAMEj00 24/11/20 2:53 am It actually pop-ups a 1x1 window which then
pops up another window.
sam 24/11/20 2:57 am interesting..yahoo doesntuse iframe
sam 24/11/20 2:57 am for their banners
iBLAMEj00 24/11/20 2:57 am Yea, cause it's faster not to.
sam 24/11/20 2:58 am they dont care about spiders and robots ?
iBLAMEj00 24/11/20 2:58 am Why would they?
iBLAMEj00 24/11/20 2:59 am With netscape you can't use iframes anyway.
sam 24/11/20 2:59 am cuz fake traffic to theads fortheir
advertisers?
iBLAMEj00 24/11/20 2:59 am But who would spider yahoo?
iBLAMEj00 24/11/20 3:00 am But in any case, what do THEY care. It's good
for them not to make it an iframe.
sam 24/11/20 3:00 am every1 spiders yahoo to steal info hehe
iBLAMEj00 24/11/20 3:00 am Cool, then more click-thrus.
sam 24/11/20 3:01 am moreimprssions,not ctrs:)
iBLAMEj00 24/11/20 3:02 am Well, if the spider clicks on the banner...
sam 24/11/20 3:02 am spiders are blind...why would they click on
stuff :)
iBLAMEj00 24/11/20 3:05 am They can click on all links including ads.
sam 24/11/20 3:18 am well igive up onthe exitpop idea.. i guess
you'reright onunload=url changing in any
fashion
iBLAMEj00 24/11/20 3:18 am Yup.
sam 24/11/20 3:52 am hey can u get cais to reboot megagames :)
iBLAMEj00 24/11/20 3:52 am I can get cais to do anything =)
sam 24/11/20 3:52 am megagames seems to be down :(
iBLAMEj00 24/11/20 3:52 am What server is he on?
sam 24/11/20 3:53 am cais27.netwhirl.com seems to be down
iBLAMEj00 24/11/20 3:56 am Hmmm, it's working now.
sam 24/11/20 3:57 am ddid they reboot it
iBLAMEj00 24/11/20 3:57 am Nope
sam 24/11/20 3:57 am weird.. do u know harsha frommega games :)
iBLAMEj00 24/11/20 3:57 am I was on the phone with them and it started
working.
iBLAMEj00 24/11/20 3:57 am Yea, I've talked to him.
sam 24/11/20 3:58 am maybe give him a holler if u can.. im talking
to him.. he said he needs a new dns or
something.. ill tell matt when he domes online
iBLAMEj00 24/11/20 3:59 am k
sam 24/11/20 4:36 am looks like cais27 is down again
sam 24/11/20 4:38 am what is cais#'s
iBLAMEj00 24/11/20 4:39 am (888)224-7662
sam 24/11/20 4:39 am do i just tell them im with efront and reboot
cais27? heh
iBLAMEj00 24/11/20 4:39 am Heh, yea.
sam 24/11/20 4:47 am i told the cais girl toreboot.. and she said
she did it.. man its totally down now.. been 5
mins.. how long does it usually take to come
up
iBLAMEj00 24/11/20 4:47 am several minutes.
sam 24/11/20 4:51 am hm..lookslike the httpdserverisntup:/
iBLAMEj00 24/11/20 4:51 am Sounds like you need a tech :/
sam 24/11/20 4:51 am or passwd toget in!
iBLAMEj00 25/11/20 4:49 am The web guide is very slow. I'm thinking that
it could have something to do with the style
sheet that is loaded via an external file
instead of being part of the web guide. I
suggested this months ago. The problem is
that an external file needs to be downloaded
from a akamai server and that slows down the
page draw. Also, when a akamai server is
down, pages will REALLY be slow (akamai goes
down more than people would like to admit).
Therefore, we should at least try to have the
style sheet incorporated into the web guide
because I think that's the main problem.
iBLAMEj00 26/11/20 10:09 am emunet.com is getting pop-ups on just about
every page. It adds the stas.net pop-up code.
sam 04/12/20 1:17 pm roy said you were going to kick ur hosting
sites out.. are you still moaning about the
webguide :) heh..its really not a big deal..
it looks like we have alot of testing and
everything to do before we deploy it, it needs
to be as good as the banners if not
better..and for hosting sites, we'll use the
horizontal navbar..so dont worry
iBLAMEj00 04/12/20 1:19 pm The verdict is still out on the web guide and
if it will show fewer page views or not (we
know what needs to happen before we can
procede).
As for the hosted sites, that's another issue.
sam 04/12/20 1:23 pm you still get your bonus for stas..we'll throw
more options:)
iBLAMEj00 04/12/20 1:23 pm The one hosted site that does 2 million page
views just wants more than I can give him.
sam 04/12/20 1:24 pm what does he want
iBLAMEj00 04/12/20 1:24 pm paid
sam 04/12/20 1:24 pm how much
sam 04/12/20 1:24 pm is that geoshock
iBLAMEj00 04/12/20 1:24 pm Yea
sam 04/12/20 1:25 pm where is he threatening to leave to.. there's
not much choice out there.. its a bloodshed:)
sam 04/12/20 1:25 pm btw, now everyone.net is pulling a startpath..
trying to not pay us for $100k..we're talking
to lawyers monday
iBLAMEj00 04/12/20 1:25 pm Didn't LookSmart also not pay us?
sam 04/12/20 1:26 pm yeah..stupid dot-com advertisers suck.. that
was 315k.. we filed suit already..and not
they're trying to settle with us for 50%..
sam 04/12/20 1:26 pm so we probably have to take it.. got bills to
pay :)
iBLAMEj00 04/12/20 1:27 pm As far as geoshock goes, he has a friend that
he can host with, then serve his own
ads/pop-up, etc.
sam 04/12/20 1:27 pm what kind of $ is geoshock asking
sam 04/12/20 1:27 pm he sounds upset..whys that
iBLAMEj00 04/12/20 1:27 pm Cause I choose not to pay him =)
sam 04/12/20 1:28 pm well is he upset about popups? how much is he
asking for :)
iBLAMEj00 04/12/20 1:28 pm I'm sure he would be purchased for .75/cpm
sam 04/12/20 1:28 pm do u have any recommendations
iBLAMEj00 04/12/20 1:29 pm Yea, avoid him as long as I can =)
sam 04/12/20 1:29 pm i think the difference in stas share s(25k to
20k) we'll add to your pot:)
iBLAMEj00 04/12/20 1:29 pm k, that would be fair
iBLAMEj00 04/12/20 1:29 pm And buy Geoshock from me also.
sam 04/12/20 1:30 pm ok.. see if u can negotiate him real low
sam 04/12/20 1:30 pm more webguide! yay!
iBLAMEj00 04/12/20 1:30 pm Well, not from me, but....
sam 04/12/20 1:30 pm heh
iBLAMEj00 04/12/20 1:30 pm Yea, 2 million webguides =)
sam 04/12/20 1:30 pm offer him shares and all that and try to keep
cash low
iBLAMEj00 04/12/20 1:30 pm Like .50?
sam 04/12/20 1:30 pm as low as u can go :)
iBLAMEj00 04/12/20 1:31 pm .10? =)
sam 04/12/20 1:31 pm sure :)
sam 04/12/20 1:31 pm if u can go that low,
sam 04/12/20 1:31 pm we'll just add his numbers to your numbers:)
iBLAMEj00 04/12/20 1:31 pm k, maybe I'll take him off ignore =)
sam 04/12/20 1:31 pm and make it all aah
sam 04/12/20 1:31 pm and you use aah.com/geoshock as the adcode for
that
sam 04/12/20 1:32 pm and int he contract make him report to u :)
iBLAMEj00 04/12/20 1:32 pm Yea, but I lose his 2M page views also :(
sam 04/12/20 1:32 pm soit doesnt look like we'rebuying another emu
site..but completing a pice of aah
sam 04/12/20 1:32 pm nah
sam 04/12/20 1:32 pm we'll add his stats to your stats
sam 04/12/20 1:32 pm thats why i said the tags would be
aah.com/geoshock
sam 04/12/20 1:32 pm best of both worlds:)
sam 04/12/20 1:33 pm we buy him to make him ur bithc:)
iBLAMEj00 04/12/20 1:33 pm So how would he get his own stats to see what
he gets paid?
sam 04/12/20 1:33 pm i dunno..we can think of something.. well make
it flat $ anyways..dont make it cpm based
sam 04/12/20 1:33 pm with step-wise bonuses for increases
sam 04/12/20 1:34 pm we get more out of it:)
iBLAMEj00 04/12/20 1:34 pm Yea, it would be like $1000 for each 2M ad
views with a cap, something like that.
sam 04/12/20 1:34 pm i thought u were gonna get him for .10 :)
iBLAMEj00 04/12/20 1:35 pm Heh
sam 04/12/20 1:35 pm or one-time bonus of $5000 for every 10 mil
pageviews
iBLAMEj00 04/12/20 1:35 pm .10 would be hard.
sam 04/12/20 1:35 pm tell him he could buy a Honda civic:)
sam 04/12/20 1:35 pm (used) every year
sam 04/12/20 1:35 pm hehe
iBLAMEj00 04/12/20 1:35 pm I don't think they have Civics in Germany
sam 04/12/20 1:35 pm Yugo!
iBLAMEj00 04/12/20 1:36 pm Yea!
sam 04/12/20 1:36 pm can he create a german version?
sam 04/12/20 1:36 pm thats higher cpm:)
iBLAMEj00 04/12/20 1:38 pm I'm sure he could
iBLAMEj00 04/12/20 1:39 pm I'll give him that carrot when I talk to him.
sam 04/12/20 1:40 pm maybe create a german version of aah :)
sam 04/12/20 1:41 pm like fixed link for everything and just
trnaslate the news everday heh
sam 04/12/20 1:41 pm well not everything.. they wouldnt care about
gore/bush
sam 04/12/20 1:41 pm maybe change the name.. 'nostalgia'.. hitler
sam 04/12/20 1:41 pm germans would getpissed:)
iBLAMEj00 04/12/20 1:42 pm Screw the Germans =)
sam 04/12/20 1:43 pm btw, maximumpc.com just went out of business
too
iBLAMEj00 04/12/20 1:45 pm :(
sam 04/12/20 1:45 pm u heard huh? we're like the only survivors
left these days
sam 04/12/20 1:45 pm we need to hire more direct sales ppl
sam 04/12/20 1:45 pm and take our destiny into our own hands
sam 04/12/20 1:45 pm btw, nate did the storerunner link
stuff..check it out
sam 04/12/20 1:46 pm Nate (ICQ#3530128) Wrote:
http://www.efront.com/affiliates/search.php?se
rch+terms+here
[we need to drive traffic via this like mad..
nate is going to add an affiliate id to this
tonight!!!! ]
iBLAMEj00 04/12/20 1:47 pm http://www.rydium.com is left.
sam 04/12/20 1:48 pm looks like they're using flycast.. are they
good (rydium)
iBLAMEj00 04/12/20 1:48 pm I see their ads running on our sites =)
sam 04/12/20 1:48 pm really?
sam 04/12/20 1:48 pm or flycast?
iBLAMEj00 04/12/20 1:49 pm rydium ads.
sam 04/12/20 1:49 pm weird
iBLAMEj00 04/12/20 1:49 pm Remember when I said that we are serving ads
for our compitition? I meant them.
iBLAMEj00 04/12/20 1:50 pm Nate on-line?
sam 04/12/20 1:50 pm aha
sam 04/12/20 1:50 pm nate.. he went to eat
sam 04/12/20 1:50 pm hopefully he be back soon
sam 04/12/20 1:50 pm i got cablemodem at home now..its nice
sam 04/12/20 1:50 pm ive been missing out:)
iBLAMEj00 04/12/20 1:50 pm Yea, cable modem is nice.
iBLAMEj00 04/12/20 1:51 pm Ours here is 1Mbps and it's always that fast,
I don't get times that it's slow.
sam 04/12/20 1:51 pm i wonder how we can tastefully integrate the
storerunner links within our sites content
iBLAMEj00 04/12/20 1:51 pm web guide
sam 04/12/20 1:51 pm this is 2mbps and that fast too
sam 04/12/20 1:51 pm nah
sam 04/12/20 1:51 pm webguide = no clicks
iBLAMEj00 04/12/20 1:51 pm Heh
sam 04/12/20 1:52 pm it'd benice like when u have a new news
article
sam 04/12/20 1:52 pm and you plug in a shopping link
sam 04/12/20 1:52 pm (just thinking)
sam 04/12/20 1:52 pm but it'd be hard to continoulsy do that
sam 04/12/20 1:52 pm somaybe one link as part of the menu..
sam 04/12/20 1:52 pm and if there's ever a review or something
abotu a product
iBLAMEj00 04/12/20 1:52 pm I find that targeted stuff works better.
sam 04/12/20 1:53 pm use that link and the search+term+here would
be the keyword for the click-thru..so justplug
and play
sam 04/12/20 1:53 pm yeah
sam 04/12/20 1:53 pm but the way nate did it, would it be eays
sam 04/12/20 1:53 pm ie easy
iBLAMEj00 04/12/20 1:53 pm And I also find that it's easier to get people
to use it if you pay them =)
sam 04/12/20 1:53 pm yeah thast rue... i gotta think of a payment
scheme :)
sam 04/12/20 1:54 pm and see if storerunner can track clicks from
the backend too
iBLAMEj00 04/12/20 1:54 pm I already got him to pay me .04/click =)
sam 04/12/20 1:54 pm who?
iBLAMEj00 04/12/20 1:54 pm I forget the doods name. Brad, Brian?
sam 04/12/20 1:55 pm g3?
iBLAMEj00 04/12/20 1:55 pm I forget.
iBLAMEj00 04/12/20 1:55 pm Heh, no, not g3 =)
iBLAMEj00 04/12/20 1:55 pm Did you see the picture that g3 sent out of
him?
sam 04/12/20 1:55 pm well brad,brian whoever it is..they arent in
charge of thisprogram:)
sam 04/12/20 1:55 pm no hehe
iBLAMEj00 04/12/20 1:55 pm Who's in charge of storerunner?
sam 04/12/20 1:56 pm dennis was.. and nate on the tech side..and
marcD for someaffiliates.. but its like
dragging.. so im getting involved.. my goal is
to kickit upto 100k clicks a day in 7 days. .
im reevaluating everything
sam 04/12/20 1:56 pm check this out
sam 04/12/20 1:57 pm http://www.bytecenter.com/members/bbs/auntjell
/index.cgi?read=13019
sam 04/12/20 1:57 pm i was working all weekend with James @
bytecenter.. to get it start to integrate in
msg boards
sam 04/12/20 1:57 pm already getting 200 clicks a day there
sam 04/12/20 1:57 pm actually in 12 hrs
sam 04/12/20 1:57 pm 400 clicks a day per site * 200 sites = 80k
clicks:)
sam 04/12/20 1:58 pm if u want something done, i guess u gotta do
it urself
iBLAMEj00 04/12/20 1:58 pm ?
sam 04/12/20 1:58 pm do u see the storerunner stuff there??
iBLAMEj00 04/12/20 1:59 pm Oh, now I do.
sam 04/12/20 1:59 pm i know poor placement
sam 04/12/20 1:59 pm gotta work on that next:)
sam 04/12/20 2:00 pm james did that.. :) we're pulling stuff from
xmlfile and rotating it
sam 04/12/20 2:00 pm his goal is to get me 30k clicks a day on all
our msg board sites combined
sam 04/12/20 2:00 pm and no extra $ etiher :)
iBLAMEj00 04/12/20 2:00 pm Oh, can we do direct product links now?
sam 04/12/20 2:00 pm ues
sam 04/12/20 2:00 pm yes
iBLAMEj00 04/12/20 2:00 pm I didn't get that memo =)
sam 04/12/20 2:01 pm i was beating up on nate to get it implemented
friday tech-wise
sam 04/12/20 2:01 pm ive been testing this weekend
sam 04/12/20 2:01 pm with James
sam 04/12/20 2:01 pm but it hasnt been sent to all the webmasters
yet
iBLAMEj00 04/12/20 2:01 pm Heh, that MB SLK give-away pop-up scares me.
sam 04/12/20 2:01 pm just trying to think of the best way to
approach
sam 04/12/20 2:01 pm oh really..whys the popup scare :)
iBLAMEj00 04/12/20 2:01 pm Maybe I've set James to ignore.
iBLAMEj00 04/12/20 2:02 pm I could play with some storerunner things
also.
sam 04/12/20 2:02 pm james reno:)
sam 04/12/20 2:03 pm he is annoying sometimes:)
iBLAMEj00 04/12/20 2:03 pm Where's he from?
sam 04/12/20 2:04 pm ohio
iBLAMEj00 04/12/20 2:04 pm Heh
sam 04/12/20 2:04 pm midwestern dumbasses
sam 04/12/20 2:04 pm oops!! i forgot
sam 04/12/20 2:04 pm sorry :)
iBLAMEj00 04/12/20 2:04 pm hehehe
sam 04/12/20 2:05 pm james is nice.. he's 15 i think
iBLAMEj00 04/12/20 2:05 pm Heh
iBLAMEj00 04/12/20 2:05 pm Is he not in the US?
sam 04/12/20 2:05 pm he's in ohio
iBLAMEj00 04/12/20 2:05 pm Really?
sam 04/12/20 2:05 pm james is our #3 employee
sam 04/12/20 2:06 pm it was me and matt then we got james tostart
working for us.. he didnt sell a site or
anything
iBLAMEj00 04/12/20 2:06 pm Damn, that's not the guy I was thinking of.
iBLAMEj00 04/12/20 2:06 pm Whoever it was I told him to fuck off and set
him to ignore =)
sam 04/12/20 2:06 pm http://members.fboards.com/bytecenter/index.pl
read=4
sam 04/12/20 2:07 pm where would you recommend we put the
storerunner link on that page
sam 04/12/20 2:07 pm to get the highest clickthru rate
sam 04/12/20 2:07 pm i consider you mister traffic analyst :)
iBLAMEj00 04/12/20 2:07 pm Imbedded in the messages =)
iBLAMEj00 04/12/20 2:08 pm In the menu would work =)
sam 04/12/20 2:08 pm seriously, should we do it in the msg?
sam 04/12/20 2:09 pm how about the last line in the msg?
iBLAMEj00 04/12/20 2:09 pm The link you have in the middle seems good.
sam 04/12/20 2:09 pm you mean under where it says bytecenter tst
board?
iBLAMEj00 04/12/20 2:09 pm That jumps out at me between those gray boxes.
sam 04/12/20 2:09 pm i cant even read it..with the black background
sam 04/12/20 2:09 pm should i tell him to make a small gray
background on that link
iBLAMEj00 04/12/20 2:10 pm Yea, the font color is all wrong.
iBLAMEj00 04/12/20 2:10 pm Make the text flash =)
sam 04/12/20 2:10 pm shoudl we make two linkds.. one in the author
column on the bottom and one in the msg column
ast hte last line
sam 04/12/20 2:10 pm seriously.. how should we do it for optimium
result and good user balance
iBLAMEj00 04/12/20 2:10 pm I would just make the text link color
something different for that link, like yellow
or something.
sam 04/12/20 2:11 pm but its a msg board
sam 04/12/20 2:11 pm meaning that ppl choose their own background
color
iBLAMEj00 04/12/20 2:12 pm But the link is between the two boxes.
iBLAMEj00 04/12/20 2:12 pm You can't see it because it's darkblue on
black.
iBLAMEj00 04/12/20 2:12 pm You mean that people pick the black color
also?
sam 04/12/20 2:12 pm yes
sam 04/12/20 2:12 pm its a free hostied msg board
iBLAMEj00 04/12/20 2:12 pm That sucks.
iBLAMEj00 04/12/20 2:12 pm Oh, I see.
iBLAMEj00 04/12/20 2:14 pm Well some way of making sure that it stands
out then.
iBLAMEj00 04/12/20 2:14 pm I kind of like it where it is because people
will look above and below the storerunner
link.
iBLAMEj00 04/12/20 2:14 pm And therefore their eyes will have to pass
over the link.
sam 04/12/20 2:16 pm ooh holiday special
sam 04/12/20 2:16 pm looks good:)
sam 04/12/20 2:17 pm but the word 'special' makes it look like
advertising
sam 04/12/20 2:17 pm and ppl wont click on that
sam 04/12/20 2:17 pm right
sam 04/12/20 2:17 pm how about this.. Holiday Gift
sam 04/12/20 2:17 pm ppl love gifts
iBLAMEj00 04/12/20 2:17 pm Holiday Gift
sam 04/12/20 2:17 pm hehe i see your picture on it :)
sam 04/12/20 2:17 pm (banner)
iBLAMEj00 04/12/20 2:17 pm [gag]
sam 04/12/20 2:17 pm hehe
sam 04/12/20 2:18 pm i bet u regret that for the rest of ur life:)
iBLAMEj00 04/12/20 2:18 pm Heh, I really don't care. As long as people
dont know who I am when I go to the store.
sam 04/12/20 2:19 pm am: how about this:
Holiday Gift
James Reno: doesnt work in netShit
iBLAMEj00 04/12/20 2:20 pm So
iBLAMEj00 04/12/20 2:21 pm Like 90% use IE
sam 04/12/20 2:21 pm what is marquee stuff
iBLAMEj00 04/12/20 2:21 pm And those that don't have IE will just see the
text.
iBLAMEj00 04/12/20 2:21 pm http://arcadeathome.efront.com/chat/
iBLAMEj00 04/12/20 2:22 pm Sign on and you will see an example of the
maquee.
iBLAMEj00 04/12/20 2:23 pm Here's my G3 picture. Ask G3 for his picture,
then this will make more sense.
http://arcadeathome.efront.com/images/me.jpg
sam 04/12/20 2:27 pm is loser.com marquee?
iBLAMEj00 04/12/20 2:28 pm yea, that's just an example of the marquee.
You can't ignore that =)
iBLAMEj00 04/12/20 2:28 pm Just hard to "catch" the link =)
sam 04/12/20 2:33 pm http://members.fboards.com/bytecenter/index.pl
read=4
holy shit..look what the kid did
iBLAMEj00 04/12/20 2:34 pm Heh, that's evil, I like it =)
sam 04/12/20 2:34 pm is that too far
iBLAMEj00 04/12/20 2:34 pm Yea, just one link in the message text.
sam 04/12/20 2:35 pm would u still want to separate it from the msg
block itself
iBLAMEj00 04/12/20 2:35 pm I kinda like it in the message =)
sam 04/12/20 2:36 pm what about the verbage
sam 04/12/20 2:36 pm maybe give him a shout and tell him what works
the best:)
sam 04/12/20 2:36 pm he needs a mentor :)
sam 04/12/20 2:37 pm does he need to say 'click here for'
iBLAMEj00 04/12/20 2:38 pm I think the most important thing is fixing his
500 server errors.
sam 04/12/20 2:39 pm 500 server errors?
iBLAMEj00 04/12/20 2:39 pm error 500, internal server error. It
typically means that the server is being hit
too hard.
iBLAMEj00 04/12/20 2:40 pm The board is perl, that's probably the main
reason.
sam 04/12/20 2:41 pm ames Reno: lol theres no 500 errors
James Reno: he looked @ it during an upload
sam: nice..on the top msg block, can you just
have one storerunner line and not two
iBLAMEj00 04/12/20 2:43 pm Yea, there shouldn't be two.
sam 04/12/20 2:48 pm dany123: are we spamming the message boards
with links?
sam 04/12/20 2:48 pm lol
sam 04/12/20 2:48 pm that would be a good idea:p
sam 04/12/20 3:05 pm we need to be supercreative like this for all
the sites..
http://members.fboards.com/bytecenter/index.pl
read=4
final version taht went live (see holiday
gift)..in the first 30 mins it got 100 clicks
combined on all the msg boards
iBLAMEj00 04/12/20 3:07 pm Yea, we need to first know how to do direct
links =)
sam 08/12/20 3:37 pm any luck on working with Dan to replace the
line of code :)
iBLAMEj00 10/12/20 8:30 am I'm using the new eFront Email Newsletter
service after Daniel nagged me to death =)
sam 10/12/20 8:36 am hehehe
iBLAMEj00 10/12/20 8:37 am Can you delete the web guide newsletter now
since it's a duplicate?
iBLAMEj00 10/12/20 8:37 am Actually...
sam 10/12/20 8:37 am ya nate should be able to.. we want to replace
that with search actually
iBLAMEj00 10/12/20 8:38 am Maybe that newsletter thingy should just be
accessing my list.
sam 10/12/20 8:38 am man i've been trying to get storerunner clicks
up.. using realprodcuts.. its tough to get
ppls cooperationg.. if i can get 100k clicks a
day, thats a nice $$ ..and will make up for
the BAD january banner month..
iBLAMEj00 10/12/20 8:39 am December seems to suck also as far as page
views go.
sam 10/12/20 8:39 am yeah.. im worried about cash/revenues.. ad
market is looking horrible
sam 10/12/20 8:40 am the average flycast/etc. cpm out there is 40
cent i think for a typical webmaster
iBLAMEj00 10/12/20 8:40 am I see that you've got the storerunner thing
working now in the web guide.
sam 10/12/20 8:40 am yeah.. but it doesnt generate much clicks:(
sam 10/12/20 8:41 am that fboards thing works the best
sam 10/12/20 8:41 am did i ever show u that
iBLAMEj00 10/12/20 8:41 am Yea
sam 10/12/20 8:41 am integrated w/ the content
iBLAMEj00 10/12/20 8:41 am Give me the product database that he uses and
I'll impliment it also.
sam 10/12/20 8:42 am yeah.. im trying to get matt and nate to
finish that up.. (thanks!)
sam 10/12/20 8:42 am 100k clicks a day = $350k/month for efront..
enough to pay for webmsaters
sam 10/12/20 8:42 am our revenues in december is going to be $1mil
and expenses like 800k
sam 10/12/20 8:42 am not bad huh
sam 10/12/20 8:42 am of course, takes 90 days to collect
iBLAMEj00 10/12/20 8:42 am Not at all.
sam 10/12/20 8:43 am and we'rve been getting stiffed as of late..
everyone.net is trying to stiff us
99k..fuckers!
iBLAMEj00 10/12/20 8:43 am And you get to keep the $200k! ;-)
sam 10/12/20 8:43 am nah, it goes back into the business to funnel
growth, new servers,
sam 10/12/20 8:43 am new websites, more programmers, more sales
poeple
sam 10/12/20 8:43 am i make squat , trust me :)
iBLAMEj00 10/12/20 8:43 am I know, I'm just joking.
iBLAMEj00 10/12/20 8:44 am The founders shouldn't make anything till
after we go public IMHO
sam 10/12/20 8:44 am also, january looks horrible.. i think we'll
have tons of banner defaults.. so im preparing
sam 10/12/20 8:44 am yeah..i agree
iBLAMEj00 10/12/20 8:45 am Cause you have the most to gain from going
public at a position of making money.
sam 10/12/20 8:45 am ther's TONS of money in CPA/co-reg's etc.
sam 10/12/20 8:46 am yeah.. and also there's no sense in taking $
.. its a cash hungary business..better to
build value so we all have a vested interest
sam 10/12/20 8:46 am our goal is 60 mil in revenue next year:)
iBLAMEj00 10/12/20 8:46 am Right, and I'm sure you don't need the cash
anyway =)
sam 10/12/20 8:47 am nah, im broke.. i put all my cash into
efront:) but, since alli do is work.. i just
need my apartment paid for and food :)
iBLAMEj00 10/12/20 8:48 am You live in the eFront apartment complex also?
sam 10/12/20 8:49 am yes hehe
sam 10/12/20 8:49 am matt's down the stree, and so is nate, and
kevin , and drazen is across the street, and
jerry is in building B
iBLAMEj00 10/12/20 8:49 am That's almost sick =)
sam 10/12/20 8:50 am shut up :)
sam 10/12/20 8:50 am im sure your farmhouse is nicer
iBLAMEj00 10/12/20 8:50 am Heh
iBLAMEj00 10/12/20 8:51 am I like people to believe I'm a farmer =)
sam 10/12/20 8:51 am ya i know i think nate told me you were
loaded.. i was like no way, h'es a farmer
sam 10/12/20 8:51 am he was like, no your wife drives a mercedez
or something
iBLAMEj00 10/12/20 8:52 am Heh, I come from a farmer family on both
sides.
iBLAMEj00 10/12/20 8:52 am But I have no farm
iBLAMEj00 10/12/20 8:52 am I do have a John Deere tractor though.
sam 10/12/20 8:52 am but you didnt deny you wernet loaded :) like
you work from home for a company making insane
$$..working 5 mins a day heh
iBLAMEj00 10/12/20 8:53 am Heh, that's not too far from the truth.
iBLAMEj00 10/12/20 8:53 am I wouldn't say I was loaded though.
iBLAMEj00 10/12/20 8:54 am Hey, when did checks go out?
sam 10/12/20 8:54 am your check shouldve been cut a week ago..i
checked itoffi remember :)
iBLAMEj00 10/12/20 8:54 am Val from PSX Extreme hasn't got his yet.
iBLAMEj00 10/12/20 8:55 am Yea, I got mine last week.
sam 10/12/20 8:55 am weird.. i know victoria screwed up pennyarcade
guy's too or something.. wrong address
sam 10/12/20 8:55 am ill see if it was sent out mon. or what when
she's in
iBLAMEj00 10/12/20 8:56 am Okay, I'll let him know.
iBLAMEj00 10/12/20 8:58 am Did you see http://gamerankings.com/ floating
ad?
sam 10/12/20 8:58 am ya do u like it
iBLAMEj00 10/12/20 8:59 am I only like it on gamerankings =)
sam 10/12/20 8:59 am hehe
iBLAMEj00 10/12/20 9:00 am Meaning that 1) it's annoying 2) it can cover
the web guide instead of my site and 3) better
off on his site than mine =)
sam 10/12/20 9:01 am i somehow got that reading between the lines:)
iBLAMEj00 10/12/20 9:01 am Seriously, making it float over the web guide
should draw attention to the web guide.
sam 10/12/20 9:01 am should we do that network wide over the
webguide? wont it slow the loading even more?
iBLAMEj00 10/12/20 9:01 am Now if it could only work without using an
iframe.
sam 10/12/20 9:01 am i think its javascript
iBLAMEj00 10/12/20 9:02 am Yea, but gamerankings method works because he
uses an iframe for his web guide.
iBLAMEj00 10/12/20 9:03 am If we made the web guide a fixed height we
could use it for everyone.
sam 10/12/20 9:03 am yeah i see what ur sayin
iBLAMEj00 10/12/20 9:04 am (meaning that we could make the webguide an
iframe for everyone.
sam 10/12/20 9:04 am is that better
sam 10/12/20 9:04 am just generally
sam 10/12/20 9:04 am than ssi include?
sam 10/12/20 9:04 am only problem is that height varies depending
on the content somewhat..hm
iBLAMEj00 10/12/20 9:04 am It's not really best because I think it would
lower the page views and I don't think we
could guarantee the height.
iBLAMEj00 10/12/20 9:05 am I've gotta feed my daughter. brb
sam 10/12/20 9:09 am i think if u do it right, aah can send 10k
srunner links a day easy
sam 10/12/20 9:20 am heh i was looking for where to put
srunnerlinks on aah.. and i spent the last 10
mins playing aah trivia :)
iBLAMEj00 10/12/20 9:52 am Heh, sucker =)
iBLAMEj00 10/12/20 9:52 am Here's a quote from a webmaster: You know, if
they didn't have this G3 guy shoving shit down
peoples throats I would be much more anxious
to do shit. I mean I want eFront to succeed,
It is just that he acts like we are all his
bitches.
sam 10/12/20 9:54 am haha..who was that
iBLAMEj00 10/12/20 9:56 am I shouldn't say, but I tend to agree and it's
what I hear.
sam 10/12/20 9:57 am ok illhave a talk w/ g3
iBLAMEj00 10/12/20 9:57 am Just so you know, I know how to be a good
manager. And one of the things you do is be
on both the side of upper management as well
as being on the side of those that you manage.
iBLAMEj00 10/12/20 9:57 am I try to be a buffer between you guys and the
sites.
iBLAMEj00 10/12/20 9:57 am The goal is to make everything work together.
sam 10/12/20 9:58 am ya.. well when i talk to a webmaster, i never
have problems .. u just have to approach
things nicely
iBLAMEj00 10/12/20 9:58 am Right.
iBLAMEj00 10/12/20 9:58 am I'm not saying you =)
sam 10/12/20 9:58 am well i'll talk to g3 and see what we can do
iBLAMEj00 10/12/20 10:00 am He's not all bad, he just sends out too many
messages and is too excited =)
sam 10/12/20 10:00 am heh .. he tries very hard :)
iBLAMEj00 10/12/20 10:00 am Remember, some people are still a little poed
about the web guide.
iBLAMEj00 10/12/20 10:00 am Yea, he tries hard, no arguements there.
sam 10/12/20 10:01 am webguide would be so cool though.. when its
top right on all sites..and ppl can navigate
:)
sam 10/12/20 10:01 am we gotta fix the fixed inside efront links
iBLAMEj00 10/12/20 10:01 am Yea, I totally agree.
sam 10/12/20 10:01 am it should go drill down into subcategories
sam 10/12/20 10:01 am and more efront is drilling wider
sam 10/12/20 11:37 am ?
iBLAMEj00 10/12/20 11:38 am ?
sam 10/12/20 11:38 am oh heh.. i saw what u told james :)
iBLAMEj00 10/12/20 11:38 am Heh
sam 10/12/20 11:43 am James Reno (ICQ#12771216) Wrote:
james: hehe.. come out come out where ever you
are..... :) ok i give up where you
hiding!!!!!!!
[heh]
iBLAMEj00 10/12/20 11:43 am heh
iBLAMEj00 10/12/20 11:44 am He told me you were a push over and he would
delay implimenting it as long as he could.
iBLAMEj00 10/12/20 11:53 am Heh, you didn't believe that did you?
sam 10/12/20 11:54 am no of ocurse not.. im trying to get stas.net
rebooted.. its down..i told james to call..
jamesis chicken
iBLAMEj00 10/12/20 11:54 am I think stas.net has been down all day.
sam 10/12/20 11:54 am really..geez
iBLAMEj00 10/12/20 11:55 am It has been from here.
sam 10/12/20 11:55 am i wonder why
sam 10/12/20 11:55 am our tech needs an overhaul :)
iBLAMEj00 10/12/20 11:55 am Maybe the drive is full and it's maxed out on
the bandwidth like normal? =)
sam 10/12/20 11:55 am they put like a 300gb drive last week
iBLAMEj00 10/12/20 11:56 am Those DC warez will fill that drive quickly =)
sam 10/12/20 11:57 am James Reno (ICQ#12771216) Wrote:
listing to ther fucked up music
[his first time callingn anywhere heh.. i told
him to just tell'em to p/c and hangup]
iBLAMEj00 10/12/20 11:57 am heh
iBLAMEj00 11/12/20 2:58 am The web guide lost it's custom colors.
sam 11/12/20 2:58 am ya..nate needs to fix
iBLAMEj00 11/12/20 3:15 am Get me a free server and the ability to mirror
server contents and I'll get you another 7.5
million web guides per month as well as that
many storerunner ads.
sam 11/12/20 3:16 am 7.5 million storerunner clicks?:)
sam 11/12/20 3:16 am ill ask nate to set you up
iBLAMEj00 11/12/20 3:17 am Not clicks but premium views.
iBLAMEj00 11/12/20 3:17 am It will cost you a server and a 10Mbps line
though.
sam 11/12/20 3:17 am that should be doable..what r u gonna do
iBLAMEj00 11/12/20 3:19 am If I mirror my download server, views will go
way up because people are pissed that it's too
slow and are leaving.
sam 11/12/20 3:19 am nate and mattwere at globalcenter last night
puttingmore boxes up i think
iBLAMEj00 11/12/20 3:19 am globalcenter?
sam 11/12/20 3:20 am ya
iBLAMEj00 11/12/20 3:20 am part of cais or a different host?
sam 11/12/20 3:20 am diff. host.. yahoo uses globalcenter too
iBLAMEj00 11/12/20 3:20 am Cool. Get me a box there and maybe I won't
even need two servers.
iBLAMEj00 11/12/20 3:21 am Server load isn't a problem, bandwidth is my
bottleneck.
sam 11/12/20 3:21 am then we'd have to pay for bandwidth :) we dont
pay any bandwidth right now..hardly.. u know
cais
sam 11/12/20 3:21 am others charge like 1000/mb :(
iBLAMEj00 11/12/20 3:22 am Well, another cais server would do nicely as
well.
sam 11/12/20 3:23 am i think cais is shutting down or going out of
biz soon..their market cap is like 20 mil
iBLAMEj00 11/12/20 3:23 am Ouch, that sucks.
iBLAMEj00 11/12/20 3:24 am So we looking for someone with cheap
bandwidth?
sam 11/12/20 3:24 am do u know of anyone?
iBLAMEj00 11/12/20 3:28 am http://www.appliedtheory.com/frames.cfm?/promo
ions/bandwidthoffer.cfm?
iBLAMEj00 11/12/20 3:28 am Free is a good price.
iBLAMEj00 11/12/20 3:30 am I've heard that they are cheap.
sam 11/12/20 3:31 am maybe we can do some of our downloads from
there:)
iBLAMEj00 11/12/20 3:32 am Yea, tell them that we may want to move 50
servers over to them and want to test it for
free for a year with one server =)
sam 11/12/20 3:32 am i wonder how mcuh they charge for server/space
then.. they have to make it up somewhere:)
iBLAMEj00 11/12/20 3:32 am It looks like they are willing to give away
bandwidth to get new customers.
iBLAMEj00 11/12/20 3:33 am Don't know, but I hear they are reasonable.
I'm not sure of the quality of their network
or their tech support, but it can't be worse
than cais =)
sam 11/12/20 3:34 am heh i know
iBLAMEj00 11/12/20 3:36 am AppliedTheory has a Hayward California center
also
iBLAMEj00 11/12/20 3:36 am Not sure how close that is to you.
sam 11/12/20 3:36 am thats near oakland.. by SF
iBLAMEj00 11/12/20 3:36 am Still closer than DC.
iBLAMEj00 11/12/20 3:38 am I want their bustable 100Mbps line and give
them a good test.
iBLAMEj00 11/12/20 3:38 am If anyone can test a big pipe, it's me =)
sam 11/12/20 3:39 am heh ..i cant belive that many ppl like games
from the 70's :)
iBLAMEj00 11/12/20 3:39 am Heh, I know =)
iBLAMEj00 11/12/20 3:45 am Looks like Nate fixed the custom color on the
web guide.
sam 11/12/20 5:01 am http://www.t-100.net/music/index.html
do u know who's running t-100? looks like alot
of broken ncodes.. apparently stas was using
his own burst accounts alot of places
iBLAMEj00 11/12/20 10:25 pm Stas is running T-100 till he gets his stocks.
sam 17/12/20 9:13 am looking through the click-thru by site.. aah's
ctr's still kinda low :(
iBLAMEj00 17/12/20 10:14 pm I can force people to click.
sam 18/12/20 12:20 am hey please dont tell any webmasters again to
use gateway pages and shit.. it really kills
us.. we have to pay them more.. for little in
value.. and we end uplosing then.. GR's
payments went up double.. and his visitors
didnt increase.. and well now we're at a loss
(cuz banners dont pay well)
iBLAMEj00 18/12/20 6:55 am Okay, but I told him before I knew that
banners were not paying well. Also, he was
using a gateway before I started talking to
him. His increase was do to marketing, random
screen shots, as well as a trivia contest like
I have (I helped him set those up).
sam 18/12/20 6:55 am k:)
sam 18/12/20 7:06 am been busy today kicking some sites out.. and
cleaning our network, streamlining costs, etc.
iBLAMEj00 18/12/20 7:07 am Cool, kicking out mp3 sites?
sam 18/12/20 7:07 am yup some of them..gotta tlak to the startmp3
guy next
iBLAMEj00 18/12/20 7:08 am mp3 sites are all a bunch of cheaters.
sam 18/12/20 7:08 am i think we're going to be in a long recession
sam 18/12/20 7:08 am time to buckle down :)
sam 18/12/20 7:09 am bush is in office
sam 18/12/20 7:09 am j/k heh
sam 18/12/20 7:09 am but ad market is super tight.. there's nothing
out there.. our sales guys have done shit this
month.. foreboding trouble
iBLAMEj00 18/12/20 7:10 am Heh, a recession takes a few years to start.
If we do go into one, we can blame it 100% on
Clinton/Gore.
sam 18/12/20 7:10 am i think we're already in a recession :p
iBLAMEj00 18/12/20 7:10 am Yea, I would call the last year a recession.
sam 18/12/20 7:10 am msft's 1st profit warning in 10 years was
friday
sam 18/12/20 7:10 am its just the beginning too
sam 18/12/20 7:10 am old economy will be effected next..auto, etc.
iBLAMEj00 18/12/20 7:11 am auto is already effected.
sam 18/12/20 7:11 am you'll see congresmmen in detroit taking
sledgehammers and tearing down japanese cars
again heh
iBLAMEj00 18/12/20 7:19 am Car companies are already losing money hand
over fist.
sam 18/12/20 7:20 am yeah..
iBLAMEj00 18/12/20 7:21 am This is the Clinton/Gore exit present.
sam 18/12/20 7:21 am but u know history/public/etc. will blame bush
sam 18/12/20 7:21 am since shit will get alot worse
sam 18/12/20 7:22 am while he's in office
sam 18/12/20 7:22 am no fault of his
iBLAMEj00 18/12/20 7:22 am Have zero foreign policy, let everyone walk
all over you, let Greenspan cool the economy,
etc.
sam 18/12/20 7:22 am ya i know
iBLAMEj00 18/12/20 7:23 am After 8 years of that, you go from bull to
bear in a flash.
iBLAMEj00 18/12/20 7:23 am I don't think people will blame Bush. The
Nasdaq is down like %35 in 2000, that's the
lowest drop ever for it.
iBLAMEj00 18/12/20 7:24 am 35% even.
iBLAMEj00 18/12/20 7:24 am Bush could do a few things right away to help
things out (that don't have to go through
congress).
sam 18/12/20 7:25 am do u think he will?
iBLAMEj00 18/12/20 7:25 am Push Alaska oil discovery (that will cause oil
to go down).
iBLAMEj00 18/12/20 7:25 am He very well may do that, he's an oil man.
sam 18/12/20 7:25 am depends on if he gets kickbacks :p
iBLAMEj00 18/12/20 7:25 am Heh
iBLAMEj00 18/12/20 7:26 am He can also sit down with Greenspan and have
him lower interest rates.
iBLAMEj00 18/12/20 7:26 am (or find a new job).
sam 18/12/20 7:27 am haha ya
iBLAMEj00 18/12/20 7:27 am Those two things alone will help things out a
lot. It takes over a year for rate changes to
make a difference, but the market projects
everything at least a year out so it will help
right away.
sam 18/12/20 7:28 am true
iBLAMEj00 18/12/20 7:28 am Also, I think he won't have any problems
getting his tax plan through, and the market
will love that (more money to spend for
consumers).
iBLAMEj00 18/12/20 7:29 am That too takes some time to actually see a
savings, but the market will factor it in
right away.
iBLAMEj00 18/12/20 7:33 am I should talk to Bush and have him make me an
advisor. If we would trim goverment, lift
controls on companies, lower corporate taxes,
etc the market would go nuts.
sam 18/12/20 7:33 am heh ya it would
iBLAMEj00 18/12/20 7:36 am Kick mame.dk out next. Those assholes resist
everything and still haven't added the web
guide.
sam 18/12/20 7:38 am just asked nate what he thinks of them
sam 18/12/20 7:41 am and their clickthru rates suck too
iBLAMEj00 18/12/20 7:42 am Well, their rates suck and they won't do
anything.
iBLAMEj00 18/12/20 7:43 am They have been "testing" the web guide for
like a month now.
sam 18/12/20 7:43 am well we're switching the whole fuck over
tomorrow using webguide impressins.. so they
better get their ass in line.. cuz it'll be $0
:)
iBLAMEj00 18/12/20 7:44 am Heh, what about the horizontal web guide?
iBLAMEj00 18/12/20 7:44 am And reports on it?
sam 18/12/20 7:45 am im sick of gateway pages too :) nate does have
it.. but we should only use it for forums and
such.. otherwise its wasted banners that
doesnt bring $$ to us anyways
(we'll make exceptions for you:)
iBLAMEj00 18/12/20 7:46 am Well, I get paid kinda a flat rate so more
banner views only help eFront.
sam 18/12/20 7:46 am yeah i know..
sam 18/12/20 7:46 am i meant for other sites.. obviously :)
sam 18/12/20 7:47 am plus your $ is more like a salary type thing
sam 18/12/20 7:47 am since u help out w/ everything else
iBLAMEj00 18/12/20 7:48 am You see all the storerunner shit I added?
sam 18/12/20 7:48 am whats your affiliate id?
iBLAMEj00 18/12/20 7:48 am http://arcadeathome.efront.com/psx.phtml
iBLAMEj00 18/12/20 7:48 am http://arcadeathome.efront.com/forums/read.php
f=15&i=2481&t=2481
iBLAMEj00 18/12/20 7:48 am I've got like 6,000 storerunner links now =)
iBLAMEj00 18/12/20 7:49 am http://arcadeathome.efront.com/dl.phtml?arcade
u64em116.zip|
iBLAMEj00 18/12/20 7:49 am Every download, every message on the forum,
and then I'm adding targeted ones to certain
sections (like the PlayStation one above).
iBLAMEj00 18/12/20 7:50 am I'm 1007
iBLAMEj00 18/12/20 7:50 am Only 726 clicks, but I'm not done.
sam 18/12/20 7:50 am nice wow:)
sam 18/12/20 7:50 am do you have access loginpassword
iBLAMEj00 18/12/20 7:51 am Heh, yea, I have admin login/password =)
sam 18/12/20 7:51 am if efront does 100k clicks a day total, we're
saved :) cuz storerunner will pay for all
webmasters..and we can hire more banner sales
people with banner revs then
iBLAMEj00 18/12/20 7:51 am So I know how many everyone else has also.
sam 18/12/20 7:51 am great
sam 18/12/20 7:51 am also the best part is that storerunner pays
upfront!
sam 18/12/20 7:51 am or net term 5 days
sam 18/12/20 7:51 am so no cash-flow a/r issues!!
sam 18/12/20 7:52 am webguide.efront.com is annoying.. any ideas on
how to bump those clicks up
iBLAMEj00 18/12/20 7:52 am Do you have a list of who's who for the
storerunner rollout?
sam 18/12/20 7:53 am measley 12000 a day
sam 18/12/20 7:53 am yeah i do..
sam 18/12/20 7:53 am ill fwd to ya..
iBLAMEj00 18/12/20 7:53 am Who's 1107 and 1192?
iBLAMEj00 18/12/20 7:53 am They are the only ones beating me and I want
to see what they are doing.
sam 18/12/20 7:54 am looks like 1192 is tukoo.com
sam 18/12/20 7:55 am that site has 5% clickthru on banners alone!!!
sam 18/12/20 7:55 am can you believe that.. its nuts
sam 18/12/20 7:55 am its our best banner site..weird huuh
iBLAMEj00 18/12/20 7:55 am No way.
sam 18/12/20 7:55 am yeah consistenly too
iBLAMEj00 18/12/20 7:55 am I can make A@H have a 5% click-thru rate also.
sam 18/12/20 7:55 am no seriously.. no cheating
sam 18/12/20 7:56 am i dont think he cheats
sam 18/12/20 7:56 am it doesnt look like he does
iBLAMEj00 18/12/20 7:56 am Well, I could make it so you could't tell I
was cheating.
sam 18/12/20 7:56 am heh
sam 18/12/20 7:56 am well still.. cuz in the end its all about
conversion too
iBLAMEj00 18/12/20 7:56 am I cheat on a few top sites.
sam 18/12/20 7:56 am cuz they come back and say 'well yea u send
xyz clicks but no conversions'
iBLAMEj00 18/12/20 7:56 am Yea, cheating banner ads won't help.
sam 18/12/20 7:57 am i mean if u could write a program that
automatically fills out whatever input boxes
are on the advertisers site for random
advertiser automatically with ur cheat script
sam 18/12/20 7:57 am then we're talking :)
iBLAMEj00 18/12/20 7:58 am Heh, it can be done.
iBLAMEj00 18/12/20 7:58 am But, it depends on how they track it.
iBLAMEj00 18/12/20 7:58 am I can get around unique IP code, and even
referrer code, and even fill out a post form.
sam 18/12/20 7:59 am that skill can be handy :)
iBLAMEj00 18/12/20 7:59 am But, if they check the referrer the correct
way instaed of just looking for their domain
anywhere in the referrer url, I can't get
around it.
sam 18/12/20 7:59 am aw so its not foolproof huh :)
iBLAMEj00 18/12/20 8:00 am It's good for top sites because you can get
the source code and see how they work.
sam 18/12/20 8:00 am so any tricks or hints for making storerunner
perform better on the webguide?
iBLAMEj00 18/12/20 8:00 am Well, most of the time there are holes in code
that can be taken advantage of.
iBLAMEj00 18/12/20 8:01 am Yea, it needs an animation.
iBLAMEj00 18/12/20 8:01 am Just something little will draw attention.
sam 18/12/20 8:02 am what do u think about putting floater ad for
the great deal maybe?
sam 18/12/20 8:02 am and float the thumbnail within the great deals
area
iBLAMEj00 18/12/20 8:02 am megagames.com has a little light bar like from
a spectrum analyzer next to his storerunner
links.
sam 18/12/20 8:02 am and just have one product per view
sam 18/12/20 8:02 am oh that.. yeah i did that :)
sam 18/12/20 8:03 am mg was like.. woah what happened.. i was like
sorry u werent around heh
iBLAMEj00 18/12/20 8:03 am Yea, that drew my eye right to it.
sam 18/12/20 8:03 am should we put that spectrum thingy on the
great deal?
iBLAMEj00 18/12/20 8:03 am It could be added to the left of the
storerunner ads.
iBLAMEj00 18/12/20 8:03 am Or something like that.
sam 18/12/20 8:03 am should i just add that
iBLAMEj00 18/12/20 8:04 am Let me look at the megagames one again.
iBLAMEj00 18/12/20 8:05 am That graphic has a black background.
iBLAMEj00 18/12/20 8:05 am It probably won't look good on white.
iBLAMEj00 18/12/20 8:05 am Maybe it will, I'd have to add it to see.
sam 18/12/20 8:06 am how about the title 'great deals'
sam 18/12/20 8:06 am leave it?
iBLAMEj00 18/12/20 8:06 am I don't think the title makes a difference.
iBLAMEj00 18/12/20 8:07 am That bar thingy may help.
iBLAMEj00 18/12/20 8:07 am Can't hurt to let it run for a few days and
see.
sam 18/12/20 8:07 am should we do the bar thingy w/ a white bg
maybe?
iBLAMEj00 18/12/20 8:08 am That's what I was thinking, but it may look
all wrong against the white background.
iBLAMEj00 18/12/20 8:10 am What's this about VideoGameSavings? Is this a
better deal for eFront than Storerunner?
sam 18/12/20 8:10 am storerunner is a better deal i think.. cuz
amazon/whoever doesnt pay u for a quarter..
storerunner pays right away
sam 18/12/20 8:11 am storerunner is just cpc
sam 18/12/20 8:11 am vgs.. they have to actually buy the products
iBLAMEj00 18/12/20 8:12 am That's what I would think.
iBLAMEj00 18/12/20 8:12 am I've tried those programs where people had to
buy things.
iBLAMEj00 18/12/20 8:12 am It didn't work for software.
sam 18/12/20 8:12 am ya.. those are tough
iBLAMEj00 18/12/20 8:12 am Maybe a site dedicated to software would work.
sam 18/12/20 8:13 am also s/w most ppl like to get for free too
iBLAMEj00 18/12/20 8:13 am But I could only really sell video cards, you
can't just copy those like you can software.
sam 18/12/20 8:13 am exactly
sam 18/12/20 8:13 am got any ideas on how to make the srunner links
blow like crazy with other sites, webguide,
anything
iBLAMEj00 18/12/20 8:13 am Well, does eFront make the money from VGS's
sales or is that on the side for him?
sam 18/12/20 8:13 am we get 2 mil uniques a day.. 5% of that = 100k
perfect:)
sam 18/12/20 8:14 am i think it's like 50/50 rev split with VGS..
that was the entire deal with him (roy did it)
sam 18/12/20 8:14 am no $ on pageviews or anything
iBLAMEj00 18/12/20 8:15 am Hmmm, so GameRankings is just linking directly
to VGS instead of doing Storerunner.
sam 18/12/20 8:15 am ya im working with scott to see what i can
do.. and/or vgs.. to see if they can also use
srunner
sam 18/12/20 8:15 am that fboards thing still gets 500 clicks a day
iBLAMEj00 18/12/20 8:16 am What id is that?
iBLAMEj00 18/12/20 8:16 am I know why tukoo.com has a high click rate.
sam 18/12/20 8:16 am i dont think its tracked.. he took the xml
file and did it himself
sam 18/12/20 8:16 am why?
sam 18/12/20 8:16 am topsite?
iBLAMEj00 18/12/20 8:16 am His page loads so slow that people click on
the banner ad.
sam 18/12/20 8:17 am hehe
sam 18/12/20 8:17 am thatswhat i was thinking:p
iBLAMEj00 18/12/20 8:17 am I'm on a 1Mbps line and I get his ad right
away, and I wait forever to see the rest of
his page.
sam 18/12/20 8:17 am do u like what he did with the shopping stuff
iBLAMEj00 18/12/20 8:17 am Yea, that's kinda cool.
iBLAMEj00 18/12/20 8:17 am How long ago did he do it?
sam 18/12/20 8:18 am like 5 days ago i think
iBLAMEj00 18/12/20 8:22 am No wonder his page is so slow. His code is
shit.
iBLAMEj00 18/12/20 8:23 am I think I could write a script that would add
a delay to my pages.
sam 18/12/20 8:23 am haha
sam 18/12/20 8:23 am or just stay at cais:)
iBLAMEj00 18/12/20 8:23 am Heh, yea.
sam 18/12/20 8:24 am tukoo has like 7 million pageviews
iBLAMEj00 18/12/20 8:24 am Actually, that's why adding the webguide to
the right isn't good, because it would slow
his entire page down. Right now, his ad is
displayed, then there's a delay.
sam 18/12/20 8:24 am he gets like 50 cent cpm
iBLAMEj00 18/12/20 8:24 am 7 million a month?
sam 18/12/20 8:24 am ya
sam 18/12/20 8:24 am alot huh
iBLAMEj00 18/12/20 8:25 am Not for me =)
sam 18/12/20 8:25 am i mean for a slow loading site :)
iBLAMEj00 18/12/20 8:25 am Heh, yea.
iBLAMEj00 18/12/20 8:27 am Something's not right with his site.
sam 18/12/20 8:27 am u think he's cheating?
iBLAMEj00 18/12/20 8:28 am None of his top sites have any hits.
iBLAMEj00 18/12/20 8:29 am Stars is the most popular and that is weak.
sam 18/12/20 8:30 am realmedia shows that he has 45k visitors a day
iBLAMEj00 18/12/20 8:30 am How can he have 230k page views a day and not
send any visitors?
sam 18/12/20 8:30 am i dunno
iBLAMEj00 18/12/20 8:30 am I'm just telling you, something isn't right.
sam 18/12/20 8:31 am i wonder what he's doing
iBLAMEj00 18/12/20 8:31 am This is his most popular topsite:
http://www.tukoo.com/topsite/stars/index.htm
sam 18/12/20 8:31 am ya.. nothing there
iBLAMEj00 18/12/20 8:32 am And look at this one:
http://www.top-www.com/gaming/
iBLAMEj00 18/12/20 8:32 am top-www.com does maybe a million a month.
iBLAMEj00 18/12/20 8:32 am I bet he has 45k people cheating his topsite
in a 1x1 frame.
iBLAMEj00 18/12/20 8:33 am Like if I added a 1x1 iframe of top-www.com to
my site, he would do 13 million page views
next month.
iBLAMEj00 18/12/20 8:34 am That's one of those "cheating poorly" deals.
sam 18/12/20 8:34 am oh really
sam 18/12/20 8:34 am what explains the banner clickthrus
iBLAMEj00 18/12/20 8:34 am Like he's cheating so much, that it's obvious.
sam 18/12/20 8:34 am and how about storerunner
sam 18/12/20 8:35 am like anything he puts on his site
sam 18/12/20 8:35 am he gets clicks
sam 18/12/20 8:35 am wouldnt all the 45k ppl have to know he put
something else on
sam 18/12/20 8:35 am and click that stuff
sam 18/12/20 8:35 am he had decent xdrive signups too
sam 18/12/20 8:35 am weird
iBLAMEj00 18/12/20 8:35 am Well, if he's manufacturing a 5% click-thru
rate, he could also manufacture storerunner
clicks.
iBLAMEj00 18/12/20 8:36 am That's part of cheating banner views, you also
have to cheat click-thrus.
iBLAMEj00 18/12/20 8:36 am If you didn't, you would get suspicious when
he had 7 million banner views and 5
click-thrus.
sam 18/12/20 8:36 am ya
iBLAMEj00 18/12/20 8:37 am Mind you, I haven't looked to see where he's
cheating but it sure as hell seems like it.
sam 18/12/20 8:37 am i wonder if we can find out
iBLAMEj00 18/12/20 8:37 am I was a 16 year old hacker once, I know
cheating when I see it.
sam 18/12/20 8:37 am hehe
iBLAMEj00 18/12/20 8:38 am I've learned how to be restrained at cheating
now so no one finds out =)
sam 18/12/20 8:38 am heh ya not getting so greedy
iBLAMEj00 18/12/20 8:39 am Right.
sam 18/12/20 8:39 am well if u can find out bout tukoo let me
konw.. so i can get his payments reduced :p
iBLAMEj00 18/12/20 8:39 am I mean come on, look at the click-thru rate of
t-100.net or top-www.
iBLAMEj00 18/12/20 8:39 am Those are top sites also.
sam 18/12/20 8:39 am ya.. maybe i was exaggering 5%.. i know its at
least 2-3 for sure sure
iBLAMEj00 18/12/20 8:40 am Well, 2% is what cheaters usually do so they
won't get caught.
iBLAMEj00 18/12/20 8:40 am That's the ratio that TheCoolHost does.
sam 18/12/20 8:41 am hm
iBLAMEj00 18/12/20 8:41 am I'd add code to his site that breaks the user
out of a frame.
sam 18/12/20 8:41 am impulling his reports.. lets see whta it says
iBLAMEj00 18/12/20 8:42 am Then, if other sites are cheating, his page
will come up.
iBLAMEj00 18/12/20 8:42 am Also, I'd add code to track referrers.
sam 18/12/20 8:42 am ok i was wrong.. .61% clickthru let mesee
iBLAMEj00 18/12/20 8:42 am Something stinks.
iBLAMEj00 18/12/20 8:42 am .61% sounds more realistic.
iBLAMEj00 18/12/20 8:43 am (with his slow loading pages).
iBLAMEj00 18/12/20 8:43 am But 7million banner views?
sam 18/12/20 8:44 am check your email
sam 18/12/20 8:44 am i pulled all his stats
sam 18/12/20 8:45 am doubleclick-test is rich media and also l90 so
we dont track clickthrus
iBLAMEj00 18/12/20 8:46 am What's Top and Top1?
sam 18/12/20 8:46 am and speedyclick and weatherbug were popups
iBLAMEj00 18/12/20 8:46 am Isn't that the top and bottom ad?
sam 18/12/20 8:46 am so his banner ctr is above 1% average
sam 18/12/20 8:46 am yeah top is top
and top1 is bottom
iBLAMEj00 18/12/20 8:46 am Then what's bottom and the other ones?
sam 18/12/20 8:47 am small buttons pops etc
iBLAMEj00 18/12/20 8:47 am k
iBLAMEj00 18/12/20 9:03 am I think that Scott from Game Rankings thinks
we are going to now dump Storerunner or
something.
sam 18/12/20 9:03 am hehe um.. no :)
sam 18/12/20 9:03 am we'd be out of business then
iBLAMEj00 18/12/20 9:04 am Well, you convinced him that VGS makes more
money for eFront than Storerunner does.
sam 18/12/20 9:04 am WHAT?
sam 18/12/20 9:04 am scott is delusional i think sometimes :p
iBLAMEj00 18/12/20 9:04 am Heh, or he only hears what he wants to hear =)
sam 18/12/20 9:04 am actually thats what he wants to beleive.. he
was pushing me on VGS .. i said we'll see ill
think about it :)
sam 18/12/20 9:04 am also thinking bout kicking out teenstation.com
iBLAMEj00 18/12/20 9:05 am Heh, that's like saying that Storerunner sucks
I guess =)
sam 18/12/20 9:05 am too high of a ratio: pageviews to visitor
sam 18/12/20 9:05 am 20 pages for each visitor!1
sam 18/12/20 9:05 am low ctr :(
iBLAMEj00 18/12/20 9:05 am 20 pages for each visitor? Wow.
sam 18/12/20 9:06 am 40 banner impressinos:)
iBLAMEj00 18/12/20 9:07 am Heh, now I'm pissing Scott off.
sam 18/12/20 9:08 am ugo kicked everyone out
sam 18/12/20 9:08 am just found out
iBLAMEj00 18/12/20 9:11 am Didn't ugo purchase voodooextreme?
sam 18/12/20 9:11 am no
sam 18/12/20 9:12 am their banners would be on it:)
sam 18/12/20 9:12 am noones buying sites these days
iBLAMEj00 18/12/20 9:14 am WHOIS information for voodooextreme.com:
Nameservers: ns1.ugonetworks.com
ns2.ugonetworks.com
sam 18/12/20 9:14 am oh .. well maybe they did :) i bet ve has bad
clickthru rates anyways :p
sam 18/12/20 9:14 am gamers dont click on ads :)
iBLAMEj00 18/12/20 9:15 am Nor buy software.
iBLAMEj00 18/12/20 9:15 am Scott got pissed and went off-line.
iBLAMEj00 18/12/20 9:16 am Scott -Game Rankings: Linking to that page
does both!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I can;t understand why you are arguing about
this, it does both.
Scott -Game Rankings: I am not talking about
this anymore, your really pissing me off.
Talk to CHarles about it!
iBLAMEj00 18/12/20 9:16 am Scott -Game Rankings: WHAT?!?!?! He makes a
ton of money.
sam 18/12/20 9:16 am lol
iBLAMEj00 18/12/20 9:16 am Scott -Game Rankings: He gets 15% from most.
You have no idea what your talking about
sam 18/12/20 9:16 am scott is funny.. :)
iBLAMEj00 18/12/20 9:17 am Heh, I wasn't really saying anything to him,
just that I wasn't going to use his shopping
code because it went to VGS instead of
Storerunner.
iBLAMEj00 18/12/20 9:17 am He really thinks that you think that VGS is
God and Storerunner is no match.
sam 18/12/20 9:18 am i have to talk to him :)
iBLAMEj00 18/12/20 9:18 am And he's not adding any Storerunner code nor
helping me out because YOU told him not to
because you make more with VGS than you do
with Storerunner.
iBLAMEj00 18/12/20 9:18 am Heh
iBLAMEj00 18/12/20 9:19 am I tried to talk to him, but he thinks I'm
talking out my ass and won't listen =)
sam 18/12/20 9:19 am i just msged him see what he said
sam 18/12/20 9:19 am hey.. um :) storerunner does give us cash
payment upfront instead of awiting 90 days..
we'll promote VGS to help charles out
but storerunner definitely will keep efront
going long-term
[i just sent him]
iBLAMEj00 18/12/20 11:04 am Heh
iBLAMEj00 20/12/20 12:00 am Hey, I know a way we could make a killing on
Storerunner.
iBLAMEj00 20/12/20 12:01 am At .11/click, we could buy visitors at .01 or
.02/click.
iBLAMEj00 20/12/20 12:02 am I could run our eFront Storerunner 468x60 ads
even for that price per click.
iBLAMEj00 20/12/20 12:08 am Get me $300 to play with and I'll setup a
script to do it and to track how much is made
with it.
iBLAMEj00 20/12/20 12:08 am Shit, I could start it for $25, but it would
be a short test.
iBLAMEj00 20/12/20 12:12 am I wouldn't charge more than $0.02 per click,
and every visitor would go directly to the
storerunner. So, for $300 you would get at
least 15,000 Storerunner clicks and net
$1,350. We could scale it to whatever we
wanted. If we could sell $300 worth of ads
per day at $0.02 or under, we could net
$41,174 per month.
iBLAMEj00 20/12/20 12:13 am If you don't want to do it, I'll do it myself
with my own site on the side =)
sam 20/12/20 12:30 am no non o.. OF COURSE we want to do it
sam 20/12/20 12:30 am nothing on the side for ya.. everything ya do
should be for efront hehe:)
sam 20/12/20 12:30 am you hvae a budget..lets exploit this
sam 20/12/20 12:30 am even with goto.com
sam 20/12/20 12:30 am brb
iBLAMEj00 21/12/20 10:45 pm Yo.
sam 21/12/20 10:45 pm hey
iBLAMEj00 21/12/20 10:46 pm I know we had some problems sending out
payments last month. But I need to know what
to tell the people that are asking about it.
sam 21/12/20 10:48 pm i thought psxextreme was taken care of.. i
asked victoria to get his $ out.. is he still
outstanding do u know
iBLAMEj00 21/12/20 10:49 pm He asked about it again yesterday.
sam 21/12/20 10:50 pm hm.m ill ask victoria today what happend..
iBLAMEj00 21/12/20 10:51 pm Adrox from emusphere and Greg from WorldDesign
also contacted me about payment :/ These are
two of the good guys that cooperate.
iBLAMEj00 21/12/20 10:51 pm Also, if we need to do it again next month, we
should pick the "problem people" to start off
with.
sam 21/12/20 10:52 pm yeah all of them weren't paid.. kind of took a
300k loss on everyone.net and looksmart ..i
think we'll be suing e.net..so waiting on a/r
right now
sam 21/12/20 10:52 pm yeah thats what i generally tried to do
sam 21/12/20 10:54 pm I would tell them that "Things are really
tight right now in the ad market and we're
having trouble collecting from some of our
advertisers. We have over a $1 mil in a/r so
we'll be catching up soon. Hang tight :/'
sam 21/12/20 10:54 pm also..
iBLAMEj00 21/12/20 10:54 pm I know what looksmart does, but what about
everyone.net?
iBLAMEj00 21/12/20 10:57 pm Did everyone.net buy ad space from us? Are
they like a hosting company?
sam 21/12/20 10:58 pm "Because we've grown considerably in the last
6 months and the recent ad market, it's much
harder to float these days. We get paid
generally in 60 to 90 days so we probably need
to make it a net term of 60 with you"
sam 21/12/20 10:58 pm with whichever webmaster you think will buy
off on it beforehand
sam 21/12/20 10:58 pm I'm trying to balance it on a case by case
basis
sam 21/12/20 10:58 pm so we have some 30 and some 60 to make it
easier :)
sam 21/12/20 10:58 pm everyone.net --they are fuckers
iBLAMEj00 21/12/20 10:59 pm Was it a direct ad deal with them?
sam 21/12/20 10:59 pm they have an ad network.. basically, we ran
stuff for them in september and october..and
they owe 100k to us
sam 21/12/20 10:59 pm this was through "gameglow.com"
sam 21/12/20 10:59 pm basically, they said they are not going to pay
us because we had other "advertisers" in the
top space at megagames.
sam 21/12/20 10:59 pm however, their ad servers were crashing BIG
TIME
sam 21/12/20 11:00 pm so we removed it
sam 21/12/20 11:00 pm it used to say "page not found" and crashing
the websites too
sam 21/12/20 11:01 pm and they're saying they wont pay now.. like i
said, they're fuckers
sam 21/12/20 11:01 pm they use doubleclick, flycast, adflight and
other companies to serve the inventory
sam 21/12/20 11:02 pm i called their top ppl and threatened the heck
out of them .. they were upset heh
sam 21/12/20 11:02 pm so....im having jerry talk to our lawyer now
about filing a write of attachment
iBLAMEj00 21/12/20 11:02 pm What BS
sam 21/12/20 11:03 pm i want to get them kicked out of all the
networks
sam 21/12/20 11:03 pm we need a collection agency sigh.. its really
bad out there right now
iBLAMEj00 21/12/20 11:04 pm Yea, but it also sucks that some companies you
won't be able to collect on because they don't
have it.
iBLAMEj00 21/12/20 11:04 pm You can sue them all you want, but if they
don't have the money, there's no point.
sam 21/12/20 11:04 pm looksmart owed us 325k..we settled for 175..
so thats 150, plus e.net 100 + 50 other
uncollectibles.. so thats 300k..kinda put us
short
sam 21/12/20 11:04 pm looksmart had it! we sued them
sam 21/12/20 11:04 pm and they said ok we will give you 50
sam 21/12/20 11:04 pm then they said 100
sam 21/12/20 11:04 pm then they said 150
sam 21/12/20 11:04 pm then 175
iBLAMEj00 21/12/20 11:05 pm What was their reasoning?
sam 21/12/20 11:05 pm and things were dragging..and i didnt want it
to take 6 months..so we accepted
sam 21/12/20 11:05 pm "this deal was not in the SPIRIT of the
agreement"
sam 21/12/20 11:05 pm what bs
iBLAMEj00 21/12/20 11:05 pm Huh?
iBLAMEj00 21/12/20 11:05 pm How did we break the "spirit"? Conversion?
sam 21/12/20 11:06 pm no..theyre stupid
sam 21/12/20 11:06 pm they basically said at first..we're not paying
sam 21/12/20 11:06 pm and we forgot to remove the writ of attachment
too
sam 21/12/20 11:06 pm and we won hehe :)
sam 21/12/20 11:07 pm but we had to drop it
iBLAMEj00 21/12/20 11:07 pm That seems to be breaking the spirit of the
agreement "not paying".
sam 21/12/20 11:07 pm cuz we settled
sam 21/12/20 11:07 pm well they know that..thats why they settled
iBLAMEj00 21/12/20 11:08 pm We just need a couple of gangstas' to visit
the executives for these companies and
"convince them".
sam 21/12/20 11:10 pm i know..well e.net is left now.. i hired a
collection agency this week btw..
iBLAMEj00 21/12/20 11:11 pm A good collection agency should pay for
itself.
sam 21/12/20 11:12 pm they want 25% or something.. worth it i think
iBLAMEj00 21/12/20 11:12 pm Did we ever get anything from startpath?
sam 21/12/20 11:12 pm no :(
sam 21/12/20 11:12 pm another deadbeat
iBLAMEj00 21/12/20 11:13 pm I wonder why they went to the trouble of
sending out that agreement then?
sam 21/12/20 11:13 pm iknow.. i think to hold people at bay
iBLAMEj00 21/12/20 11:14 pm I don't think so, it was only for 30 days. If
they wanted to put it off, they would have
made the term 90 days or something.
sam 21/12/20 11:14 pm yeah thats true
iBLAMEj00 21/12/20 11:15 pm Well, their core reason was that they didn't
have the money.
sam 21/12/20 11:15 pm e.net does have the money
sam 21/12/20 11:15 pm (i think)
iBLAMEj00 21/12/20 11:15 pm Their first payment to me bounced and it was
only for $5k.
sam 21/12/20 11:16 pm heh
iBLAMEj00 21/12/20 11:17 pm With the partners that e.net has, you would
think that they had the money.
sam 21/12/20 11:17 pm our deal was through 'gameglow.com'
iBLAMEj00 21/12/20 11:17 pm Oh, gameglow.com is out of business.
iBLAMEj00 21/12/20 11:18 pm ZFalcon, the owner of GameGlow Network has
asked me to pass along his regrets as well as
my own
sam 21/12/20 11:18 pm david suit? we're going to sue himpersonally
too
sam 21/12/20 11:18 pm everyone.net paid him half the amount or
something for efront
sam 21/12/20 11:19 pm and he kept that and screwed us over it seems
like
iBLAMEj00 21/12/20 11:20 pm It makes you want to only do pre-paid deals.
iBLAMEj00 21/12/20 11:20 pm When I sold ads on my own, I only did pre-paid
deals.
sam 21/12/20 11:21 pm yeah i know.. but we have so much to sell..
you limit your optins severely then..
iBLAMEj00 21/12/20 11:21 pm Yea, I know.
sam 21/12/20 11:21 pm man that fucker ran off with our money
sam 21/12/20 11:21 pm im going to try to sue him personally
iBLAMEj00 21/12/20 11:21 pm Yea, that's what it looks like.
iBLAMEj00 21/12/20 11:21 pm He got paid the money, and then "quits".
sam 21/12/20 11:22 pm he got paid 'halfof it' from what he told me
sam 21/12/20 11:23 pm i hope about.com doesnt screwus
sam 21/12/20 11:23 pm they owe us 250k by dec. 30th
sam 21/12/20 11:23 pm and another 350k by jan 30th
sam 21/12/20 11:23 pm that would really suck :/
iBLAMEj00 21/12/20 11:29 pm If these companies don't have the money, they
shouldn't be advertising.
iBLAMEj00 21/12/20 11:29 pm That's outright fraud.
sam 21/12/20 11:29 pm i know..it sux.. we need to diversify our
revenues big time.. i hate banner advertising
sam 21/12/20 11:29 pm we bought worklife.com
sam 21/12/20 11:29 pm career.efront.com
sam 21/12/20 11:30 pm we're powering careers.altavista.com now too
sam 21/12/20 11:30 pm and will be powering excite soon too :)
sam 21/12/20 11:30 pm we get paid there on clicks to the end job
boards
sam 21/12/20 11:30 pm so thats a nice diversificationt
sam 21/12/20 11:30 pm we're getting efront isp (no cost to us) going
soon too
sam 21/12/20 11:30 pm and u know bout srunner
sam 21/12/20 11:31 pm and dan is focusing on direct marketing (email
marketing) stuff big time.. LOTS of $$ there
iBLAMEj00 21/12/20 11:33 pm worklife is a monster like service?
sam 21/12/20 11:33 pm yes
sam 21/12/20 11:33 pm its a back-end service
sam 21/12/20 11:33 pm asp type
sam 21/12/20 11:33 pm jobs portal provider
sam 21/12/20 11:33 pm neat huh
sam 21/12/20 11:33 pm lot of $$ oppty there.. part of efront now :)
iBLAMEj00 21/12/20 11:33 pm Cool.
iBLAMEj00 21/12/20 11:34 pm I gave dan my 10,000+ e-mail list.
sam 21/12/20 11:34 pm there's $$ in co-registrations and stuff too..
thats great
iBLAMEj00 21/12/20 11:43 pm Okay, can you do 2 things for me?
sam 21/12/20 11:43 pm yes
iBLAMEj00 21/12/20 11:44 pm 1) Get adrox from emusphere.com paid, he's
been a friend for like 3 years and I think
this is his first or second payment
iBLAMEj00 21/12/20 11:44 pm I'll be more than happy to suggest someone to
hold off payment next month to offset his
payment =)
sam 21/12/20 11:45 pm sure not a problem.
iBLAMEj00 21/12/20 11:45 pm 2) get those stocks to Stas so I can take over
t-100.net and set him to ignore.
sam 21/12/20 11:46 pm yeah i need to follow up with our attorneys to
see whats going on there.
iBLAMEj00 21/12/20 11:47 pm Stas isn't giving up t-100 nor transfering the
domains till he gets the shares.
iBLAMEj00 21/12/20 11:48 pm I can see his side, he thinks we are going to
screw him. What goes around comes around I
guess.
sam 21/12/20 11:48 pm yeah.. not a problem
iBLAMEj00 21/12/20 11:48 pm Wow, did you hear that Iraq has purchased
4,000 PlayStation 2s?
sam 21/12/20 11:48 pm heh yeah right?
iBLAMEj00 21/12/20 11:49 pm "Two government agencies are investigating the
purchases because the PlayStations can be
bundled together into a sort of crude
super-computer and used for a variety of
military applications, say intelligence
sources."
sam 21/12/20 11:51 pm heh
iBLAMEj00 21/12/20 11:51 pm Heh, could you imagine a war being started and
the PS2 being the computer that runs it? =)
sam 21/12/20 11:51 pm that's funny yeah
iBLAMEj00 21/12/20 11:51 pm WWI, WWII, WWPS2
sam 21/12/20 11:51 pm sounds like a good video game
iBLAMEj00 21/12/20 11:52 pm I know.
iBLAMEj00 21/12/20 11:52 pm So I guess we can now blame Saddam Hussein for
the PS2 shortage =)
iBLAMEj00 21/12/20 11:53 pm Hey, before I shoot myself in the foot, are
you from the middle east?
iBLAMEj00 21/12/20 11:54 pm You don't sound like you were born in the US,
not that it matters, just wondering.
sam 21/12/20 11:54 pm yeah.. brazilq
sam 21/12/20 11:54 pm im from iraq :)
sam 21/12/20 11:54 pm heh j/k
iBLAMEj00 21/12/20 11:55 pm Heh, YOUAMBRASIL!!!?
iBLAMEj00 21/12/20 11:55 pm GOAL!!!!!!
sam 21/12/20 11:55 pm haha
sam 21/12/20 11:55 pm 4000 is still alot.. how did he get that
iBLAMEj00 21/12/20 11:56 pm He waited in line at BestBuy I guess.
sam 21/12/20 11:56 pm my dad was in diplomacy.. so i lived in 6
countries.. and traveled alot.. probably 40
countries
sam 21/12/20 11:56 pm or ordered online
sam 21/12/20 11:56 pm through storerunner:)
iBLAMEj00 21/12/20 11:56 pm Heh yea, YOU are to blame!
iBLAMEj00 21/12/20 11:57 pm It says that they were purchased in the US and
send to him.
iBLAMEj00 21/12/20 11:58 pm Maybe Saddam is just a gamer with a temper and
tends to break consoles when he loses?
iBLAMEj00 21/12/20 11:58 pm Saddam doesn't seem like the kind of guy that
likes to lose.
iBLAMEj00 21/12/20 11:59 pm If he kills the console, I guess he could say
that he really won.
iBLAMEj00 21/12/20 11:59 pm So, you have family in Brazil?
sam 21/12/20 11:59 pm maybe he's playing Operationg Attack USA
sam 22/12/20 12:00 am yes.. distant relatives.. my dad is retired
back east though.. pittsburgh (next to ohio!)
sam 22/12/20 12:01 am i went to school at penn state and lived in
pittsburgh too.. one of my job was going door
to door in ohio
sam 22/12/20 12:01 am selling home improvements :)
iBLAMEj00 22/12/20 12:01 am Cool.
iBLAMEj00 22/12/20 12:01 am So you made your millions in selling door to
door.
iBLAMEj00 22/12/20 12:01 am People are suckers in Ohio =)
sam 22/12/20 12:01 am ya.. $25 a day more like it.
sam 22/12/20 12:01 am yeah hehe
iBLAMEj00 22/12/20 12:02 am I sold a monitor to a blind man once in Ohio.
iBLAMEj00 22/12/20 12:02 am And a gender changer to a nun.
sam 22/12/20 12:02 am braille monitor?
iBLAMEj00 22/12/20 12:02 am True stories.
iBLAMEj00 22/12/20 12:03 am No, a regular monitor.
sam 22/12/20 12:03 am heh
iBLAMEj00 22/12/20 12:03 am I asked him afterwords and he said that
someone who was with sight may want to use his
computer also. But it was still funny.
iBLAMEj00 22/12/20 12:04 am You should have heard my conversation about
the gender of a cable and connectors to a nun.
sam 22/12/20 12:04 am heh
iBLAMEj00 22/12/20 12:04 am I had to show her examples and tell her that
one was male and one was female and why.
iBLAMEj00 22/12/20 12:05 am It was like "sex ed for nuns 101"
sam 22/12/20 12:05 am hehe.. put that on aah.. more hits :) (and a
link to a "gender changer" from bestbuy.com
srunner hehe
crap.. its 8 am and have meetings with our
investment bankers at 9.. time to get out of
bed:)
iBLAMEj00 22/12/20 12:06 am heh
iBLAMEj00 22/12/20 12:08 am I should have my storerunner/goto script
working today, then the fun begins =)
sam 22/12/20 12:09 am wow.. that would be awesome :)
sam 22/12/20 12:09 am srunner has 60k products or something
iBLAMEj00 22/12/20 12:09 am I'll start out small, and then we can just
ramp it up if it works.
sam 22/12/20 12:09 am 60k 1 cent links :)
iBLAMEj00 22/12/20 12:10 am Yea, I need to get their database.
iBLAMEj00 22/12/20 12:10 am I don't need it for the test, but would need
it if we went all out.
sam 22/12/20 12:10 am theyve been giving us an 180 item xml file so
far
sam 22/12/20 12:10 am (per day)
iBLAMEj00 22/12/20 12:11 am Yea, I have access to that (and use it on my
site).
sam 22/12/20 12:11 am gotta get ready fer work..bbl
iBLAMEj00 22/12/20 12:11 am cya
sam 23/12/20 1:45 pm hows the goto.com stuff doing
iBLAMEj00 23/12/20 1:45 pm I'm waiting for them to add my keywords
iBLAMEj00 23/12/20 1:46 pm http://arcadeathome.efront.com/storerunner/
sam 23/12/20 1:46 pm wow
sam 23/12/20 1:47 pm hehe.. aah banner on top :) funny
iBLAMEj00 23/12/20 1:48 pm I setup a new goto account with $25 in it.
I'll be able to log visits and clicks-thrus to
see what it makes.
iBLAMEj00 23/12/20 1:48 pm Yea, the A@H banner was added just for you =)
sam 23/12/20 1:49 pm think of any other ideas? over the weekend,
imgoing to work hard on srunner now.. weekends
are good.. gives me a chance to work and focus
sam 23/12/20 1:49 pm away from the office.
sam 23/12/20 1:49 pm did you see freaking nettraxi
sam 23/12/20 1:49 pm nettaxi
iBLAMEj00 23/12/20 1:49 pm Yea
sam 23/12/20 1:49 pm fuckers:)
sam 23/12/20 1:49 pm i dont know how they're making out
sam 23/12/20 1:50 pm they're buying it from l90 @ 3cpm
sam 23/12/20 1:50 pm 1% ctr = 1$cpm even
iBLAMEj00 23/12/20 1:50 pm You mean the pop-ups?
sam 23/12/20 1:50 pm yeah
iBLAMEj00 23/12/20 1:50 pm It's storerunner.
sam 23/12/20 1:50 pm yeah i know.. its nettaxi
sam 23/12/20 1:50 pm using storerunner
iBLAMEj00 23/12/20 1:50 pm Yea, nettaxi using storerunner ads.
sam 23/12/20 1:51 pm if they get 1% ctr.. * even 10 cent = $1cpm
iBLAMEj00 23/12/20 1:51 pm But, nettaxi is paying us for the pop-ups,
right?
sam 23/12/20 1:51 pm yeah they pay l90 $3cpm
sam 23/12/20 1:51 pm and l90 pays us like 65%
iBLAMEj00 23/12/20 1:52 pm Yea, I can't see how they will make money on
that.
sam 23/12/20 1:52 pm are u good at banner ideas
sam 23/12/20 1:52 pm we have like 100 million excess banners
sam 23/12/20 1:52 pm if we can make a good one
sam 23/12/20 1:52 pm and get .5% clickthrus
sam 23/12/20 1:53 pm thats 50k clicks a day
sam 23/12/20 1:53 pm oops 100 million per month i guess
sam 23/12/20 1:53 pm so thats 3 million a day at least
sam 23/12/20 1:53 pm thats still 15k clicks a day
sam 23/12/20 1:53 pm @ .5%
sam 23/12/20 1:53 pm not bad
iBLAMEj00 23/12/20 1:53 pm I've got a banner that I get great click-thru
rates from.
sam 23/12/20 1:54 pm how does it look liek
those 'Warning' ones get good ctrstoo
iBLAMEj00 23/12/20 1:54 pm Heh, yea, crappy banners get the best
click-thru rates.
iBLAMEj00 23/12/20 1:55 pm http://leader.linkexchange.com/X596533/showmyb
nner
iBLAMEj00 23/12/20 1:55 pm I think that will show you it.
sam 23/12/20 1:55 pm http://cais11.netwhirl.com/~bestofonline/keywo
d_banner.fcg?keywords=pokemon&image_req=1&newo
e=1
sam 23/12/20 1:55 pm that looks good
iBLAMEj00 23/12/20 1:55 pm I get from 1.5% to 2.0% click-thru rate on
that.
sam 23/12/20 1:56 pm can we do that and pull a random product from
srunner :)
sam 23/12/20 1:56 pm it would be hard to say 'win' though huh/
sam 23/12/20 1:56 pm oooh
sam 23/12/20 1:56 pm i know
sam 23/12/20 1:56 pm frame it
sam 23/12/20 1:56 pm and on top have a 'win a dreamcast aah button'
sam 23/12/20 1:56 pm hows that
sam 23/12/20 1:56 pm and storerunner on bottom :)
sam 23/12/20 1:56 pm or nah?
iBLAMEj00 23/12/20 1:56 pm Heh, yea.
iBLAMEj00 23/12/20 1:57 pm You see the mad StoreRunner clicks I'm
sending?
iBLAMEj00 23/12/20 1:57 pm I like to win ;-)
sam 23/12/20 1:57 pm yeah.. almost 2k a day now huh
sam 23/12/20 1:57 pm heh
iBLAMEj00 23/12/20 1:57 pm Something like that.
sam 23/12/20 1:57 pm how r u doing that
sam 23/12/20 1:57 pm imaigne if we had all the websites do that
sam 23/12/20 1:57 pm wow
iBLAMEj00 23/12/20 1:57 pm Placing ads where people move their mouse.
sam 23/12/20 1:58 pm http://www.bestofonline.com/
sam 23/12/20 1:58 pm we probably need ur help on that too
sam 23/12/20 1:58 pm its getting crappy ctr
sam 23/12/20 1:58 pm all the efront 404 were supposed to be sent
there
iBLAMEj00 23/12/20 1:58 pm I like that ad.
sam 23/12/20 1:58 pm which ad
iBLAMEj00 23/12/20 1:59 pm http://cais11.netwhirl.com/~bestofonline/keywo
d_banner.fcg?keywords=pokemon&image_req=1&newo
e=1
sam 23/12/20 1:59 pm its dynamic too.. change the keyword ..try it
iBLAMEj00 23/12/20 1:59 pm Yea, I tried it, cool.
sam 23/12/20 1:59 pm i want to put it in our banner rotation..but
the ad sux.. bad ctr
iBLAMEj00 23/12/20 1:59 pm Yea
sam 23/12/20 2:00 pm probably beter to do it using ur warning thing
huh
iBLAMEj00 23/12/20 2:00 pm Yea.
sam 23/12/20 2:00 pm 5 mil banners a day * 1 % ctr = 50k clicks a
day
iBLAMEj00 23/12/20 2:00 pm People click on banners that look like warning
windows.
sam 23/12/20 2:00 pm that would be 1$cpm
sam 23/12/20 2:00 pm better than market :)
sam 23/12/20 2:00 pm otherwise we'd be getting 0 for that anyways
iBLAMEj00 23/12/20 2:00 pm Yea, and better than the $0/cpm we get for our
overstock.
sam 23/12/20 2:01 pm yeah
iBLAMEj00 23/12/20 2:01 pm heh
sam 23/12/20 2:01 pm do u have the source for the banner
sam 23/12/20 2:01 pm or thats it
sam 23/12/20 2:01 pm i wonder how we can rotate the products though
iBLAMEj00 23/12/20 2:01 pm You can use just that.
sam 23/12/20 2:01 pm probably better to have random products
because
sam 23/12/20 2:01 pm srunner complains if we send tons of clicks to
the same store
sam 23/12/20 2:01 pm or same product
iBLAMEj00 23/12/20 2:01 pm I'm sure someone can be creative with it.
iBLAMEj00 23/12/20 2:02 pm They should rotate the store then.
sam 23/12/20 2:02 pm i think they do that
iBLAMEj00 23/12/20 2:02 pm Or give me a larger database than 180 a day.
sam 23/12/20 2:02 pm yeah i know
sam 23/12/20 2:02 pm the thing is that banner i showed u
iBLAMEj00 23/12/20 2:02 pm That's stupid.
sam 23/12/20 2:02 pm it searches storerunner in real time
sam 23/12/20 2:02 pm and brings back a random result:)
sam 23/12/20 2:02 pm jonathan roy wrot ethat :)
sam 23/12/20 2:03 pm and caches it too
iBLAMEj00 23/12/20 2:03 pm Cool, that's not stupid =)
sam 23/12/20 2:03 pm the trick is.. how to make it pull random
products
sam 23/12/20 2:03 pm that MATCH the page!!
sam 23/12/20 2:03 pm meanning whatever product or contnet the page
was about
iBLAMEj00 23/12/20 2:03 pm Storerunner is stupid, if they only give you
180 products per day, you are going to send
them many clicks on only a few products.
sam 23/12/20 2:03 pm is thatposible
sam 23/12/20 2:03 pm yeah i know..
iBLAMEj00 23/12/20 2:04 pm I have products match my page =)
iBLAMEj00 23/12/20 2:04 pm http://arcadeathome.efront.com/dl.phtml?n64/ul
rahle.zip|
iBLAMEj00 23/12/20 2:04 pm Reload that a few times.
iBLAMEj00 23/12/20 2:04 pm It only shows N64 products because you are
downloading a N64 emulator.
iBLAMEj00 23/12/20 2:05 pm It steals the content from GameRanking's top
N64 games every night.
sam 23/12/20 2:05 pm ohhh
sam 23/12/20 2:05 pm man
iBLAMEj00 23/12/20 2:05 pm http://arcadeathome.efront.com/dl.phtml?psx/cv
s141_demo_04.exe|
iBLAMEj00 23/12/20 2:06 pm That does only PSX because it's a PSX emu.
sam 23/12/20 2:06 pm how do u match it up
sam 23/12/20 2:06 pm search ?
iBLAMEj00 23/12/20 2:06 pm I pull just games from a certain platform on
gamerankings.
iBLAMEj00 23/12/20 2:06 pm And create a file for each platform.
sam 23/12/20 2:07 pm can i get that link put on all the gaming
pages of efront
iBLAMEj00 23/12/20 2:07 pm http://arcadeathome.efront.com/inc/rankings/dr
amcast.inc
iBLAMEj00 23/12/20 2:08 pm That's just Dreamcast
iBLAMEj00 23/12/20 2:08 pm http://arcadeathome.efront.com/inc/rankings/al
.inc
iBLAMEj00 23/12/20 2:08 pm That's the top games in multiple platforms.
sam 23/12/20 2:08 pm Charles and Laura (ICQ#50347703) Wrote:
Hi, we got to talking about beign able to
promote both at the same time. Our solotion
is
To have e-front game sites that are related to
the games we price put videogamesavings.com
price tables for each game on there game
sites. For example psextreme would have a
price chart for driver on the driver page.
Then right below the price chart would be a
banner that would say something along the
lines of "Can Store Runner beat the E-Front
Price"
Then to make the gaming sites happy we would
give say 1/4 of 1 percent of total revenue to
each webmaster that participates each quarter.
Thus if there were 20 gaming sites involved
they would take 5% of the revenue and the
remaining 95% would be spit between e-front
and myself. This would give the websites a
reason to push videogamesavings.com as hard as
they can. The more we make the more they
make. Also having the store runner banner
right below the tables would basically dare
visitors to click on it. They then click on
store runner, go there and relize e-front
price is better, click back to come back to
the e-front site and purchase through the
e-front site. Thus we get the clickthrough
money from store runner, and the sales from
videogamesavings.
iBLAMEj00 23/12/20 2:08 pm I just parse it for the StoreRunner links.
iBLAMEj00 23/12/20 2:09 pm I get new files from GameRankings every night.
iBLAMEj00 23/12/20 2:09 pm And you've gotta love that gateway =)
sam 23/12/20 2:11 pm so hm.. help me put that on all the gaming
site:) what do i have to do??
iBLAMEj00 23/12/20 2:12 pm Some gaming sites already have it.
sam 23/12/20 2:13 pm using your affliate id?
iBLAMEj00 23/12/20 2:13 pm But, you could just pull
http://arcadeathome.efront.com/inc/rankings/al
.inc in a nightly cron job to each server and
then display it.
iBLAMEj00 23/12/20 2:13 pm Well, I really don't care if I get a webcam
anyway, so...
sam 23/12/20 2:13 pm hehe
sam 23/12/20 2:13 pm oh yes u do :)
iBLAMEj00 23/12/20 2:13 pm Heh, I've already got like 2 =)
sam 23/12/20 2:14 pm yeah i know ur loaded:)
iBLAMEj00 23/12/20 2:14 pm Hardly, 2 crappy ones.
iBLAMEj00 23/12/20 2:14 pm But, all they see is my mug anyway.
iBLAMEj00 23/12/20 2:14 pm So it don't matter the quality of them.
sam 23/12/20 2:14 pm so u can participate in efront braodband then
:p
iBLAMEj00 23/12/20 2:15 pm Yea, mine is crap for that.
iBLAMEj00 23/12/20 2:16 pm Heh, I guess you can't just pull that file, it
uses my gateway. I'd have to modify it if you
wanted to use it.
iBLAMEj00 23/12/20 2:17 pm Wouldn't be hard though. But, you'd need to
know how to use crontab, scripts, php, ssl and
shit.
iBLAMEj00 23/12/20 2:18 pm ssl=ssi
sam 23/12/20 2:19 pm i think i can learn
sam 23/12/20 2:19 pm how would i get it to match the content on the
page
sam 23/12/20 2:19 pm assign a keyword?
iBLAMEj00 23/12/20 2:19 pm Well, I just have multiple files
sam 23/12/20 2:20 pm how about .....inc?keyword=dreamcast
sam 23/12/20 2:20 pm or something?
iBLAMEj00 23/12/20 2:20 pm http://arcadeathome.efront.com/inc/rankings/dr
amcast.inc
http://arcadeathome.efront.com/inc/rankings/gb
inc
http://arcadeathome.efront.com/inc/rankings/ps
.inc
http://arcadeathome.efront.com/inc/rankings/ps
.inc
http://arcadeathome.efront.com/inc/rankings/n6
.inc
http://arcadeathome.efront.com/inc/rankings/al
.inc
iBLAMEj00 23/12/20 2:21 pm But, I could provide the same files without
the gateway and the color settings.
iBLAMEj00 23/12/20 2:22 pm You would probably include the all.inc on a
main page, and include the other files on
pages with specific content.
iBLAMEj00 23/12/20 2:22 pm For me, the sections match the filename.
sam 23/12/20 2:22 pm should we do it with an instruction sheet for
the gaming site
sam 23/12/20 2:22 pm or just go in the sites and put stuff up
ourselves?
sam 23/12/20 2:23 pm i wish we could do true incontext stuff
iBLAMEj00 23/12/20 2:23 pm I don't know. I guess it depends on how
technical they are.
sam 23/12/20 2:24 pm probably not that technical
iBLAMEj00 23/12/20 2:26 pm I could make a javascript version.
sam 23/12/20 2:26 pm what if i get u all root passwords
login/password everything
sam 23/12/20 2:26 pm is jscript slow
iBLAMEj00 23/12/20 2:26 pm But it would load from my site.
iBLAMEj00 23/12/20 2:26 pm And be slow.
sam 23/12/20 2:26 pm we were going to get u a new server or
something
sam 23/12/20 2:26 pm remember u wanted 2 :)
iBLAMEj00 23/12/20 2:26 pm It's best to have them setup a script to
download it to their server every day or
something.
iBLAMEj00 23/12/20 2:27 pm Nate is going to just kick win98central off my
second server.
iBLAMEj00 23/12/20 2:27 pm So I can abuse the server without pissing off
win98central more than I already have =)
sam 23/12/20 2:27 pm heh
iBLAMEj00 23/12/20 2:31 pm http://aah.efront.com/inc/efront/all.inc
iBLAMEj00 23/12/20 2:31 pm http://aah.efront.com/inc/efront/dreamcast.inc
iBLAMEj00 23/12/20 2:31 pm And the other platforms.
sam 23/12/20 2:32 pm thats neat..so change gamerankingsthing to
that?
sam 23/12/20 2:32 pm or how about your
'Get Tony Hawk2 '
sam 23/12/20 2:32 pm :)
iBLAMEj00 23/12/20 2:33 pm Well that one would be for listing as is.
iBLAMEj00 23/12/20 2:33 pm I could provide one that was easy to select a
random one.
iBLAMEj00 23/12/20 2:33 pm Sec.
iBLAMEj00 23/12/20 2:35 pm Like if you look on my main page on the left.
sam 23/12/20 2:36 pm u just have to right align the buy right:)
sam 23/12/20 2:36 pm u do this stuff fast geez
sam 23/12/20 2:36 pm do u know anyone like u we can hire fulltime?
:)
iBLAMEj00 23/12/20 2:38 pm Heh
iBLAMEj00 23/12/20 2:38 pm I didn't align the buy on purpose. It makes
it too large.
iBLAMEj00 23/12/20 2:40 pm http://aah.efront.com/inc/efront/all.dat
sam 23/12/20 2:40 pm is there anyway to spider a site, find the
topics and store it in a db..and then use
roy's program to pull out a product associted
with that then dispaly that banner?
iBLAMEj00 23/12/20 2:40 pm http://aah.efront.com/inc/efront/dreamcast.dat
iBLAMEj00 23/12/20 2:41 pm Those are just the get files. They could be
easily loaded and a random game selected.
iBLAMEj00 23/12/20 2:42 pm Yea, you can do it, but it takes some creative
coding.
iBLAMEj00 23/12/20 2:42 pm Like this:
http://arcadeathome.efront.com/search.php?url=
ttp://arcadeathome.efront.com/dl.phtml?multic/
ame027.zip|&search=yame#searchjmp
iBLAMEj00 23/12/20 2:42 pm That's my search results page. It spiders my
page, finds the keywords, parses it and
highlights the keywords you were searching
for.
iBLAMEj00 23/12/20 2:43 pm It even moves you to the first occurance of
the keywords.
iBLAMEj00 23/12/20 2:43 pm It does it real time, so it's slow.
sam 23/12/20 2:43 pm thats rpetty neat
sam 23/12/20 2:43 pm well then jsut cache or subsequent requests
iBLAMEj00 23/12/20 2:44 pm Yea
iBLAMEj00 23/12/20 2:44 pm My search engine is a spider. It stores all
the keywords in a mysql database.
sam 23/12/20 2:45 pm really? nice..how about this..
sam 23/12/20 2:45 pm have a spider that spiders all the sites and
all the pages of the sites
sam 23/12/20 2:45 pm and store in mysql db
sam 23/12/20 2:45 pm load banners and everything else using an inc.
sam 23/12/20 2:45 pm and not an iframe
sam 23/12/20 2:45 pm and based on the page you are at
sam 23/12/20 2:46 pm the inc will pass to the mysql db the url
sam 23/12/20 2:46 pm the mysql passes back keywords
iBLAMEj00 23/12/20 2:46 pm Right.
sam 23/12/20 2:46 pm the keywords goes to the inc for banners,
buttons, text links , everything
iBLAMEj00 23/12/20 2:46 pm Instant click-thru rate increase.
sam 23/12/20 2:46 pm andthe ssi decides what to do with the keyword
sam 23/12/20 2:46 pm wow :)
sam 23/12/20 2:46 pm is that tough to program
sam 23/12/20 2:46 pm and thats automatic too
sam 23/12/20 2:47 pm and we wouldnt have to code each page with a
tag
iBLAMEj00 23/12/20 2:47 pm I use an off the shelf program that spider's
my site.
sam 23/12/20 2:47 pm which program is that
iBLAMEj00 23/12/20 2:47 pm freeware.
iBLAMEj00 23/12/20 2:47 pm No idea.
sam 23/12/20 2:47 pm is it good
iBLAMEj00 23/12/20 2:47 pm No, just joking, let me find it.
iBLAMEj00 23/12/20 2:48 pm You can play with it here:
http://arcadeathome.efront.com/search/
sam 23/12/20 2:48 pm thats sweet
iBLAMEj00 23/12/20 2:49 pm An easier way would be to just look at the
referrer page's url and title.
iBLAMEj00 23/12/20 2:49 pm That may give enough information.
iBLAMEj00 23/12/20 2:50 pm Oh goody, my eFront ad being displayed again.
iBLAMEj00 23/12/20 2:53 pm http://search.mnogo.ru/
iBLAMEj00 23/12/20 2:53 pm That's the search I use.
iBLAMEj00 23/12/20 2:54 pm It's a spider and a search engine.
iBLAMEj00 23/12/20 2:54 pm Spidering all eFront sites would be a bitch.
iBLAMEj00 23/12/20 2:54 pm I had to tweak it a bunch just for my site so
it didn't spider things like my forum till the
end of time.
iBLAMEj00 23/12/20 2:55 pm That's why I think a url and page title
database may be better.
sam 23/12/20 10:56 pm oops i fell asleep sorry :)
sam 27/12/20 7:38 am hey any luck on the goto.com / storerunner
click stuff
iBLAMEj00 27/12/20 12:09 pm Goto hasn't authorized my keywords yet :/
sam 27/12/20 12:09 pm how long does it uusally take
sam 27/12/20 12:10 pm btw, i got megagames to redo their scripts
iBLAMEj00 27/12/20 12:10 pm About 3 days.
sam 27/12/20 12:10 pm so someone is beating you now :)
iBLAMEj00 27/12/20 12:10 pm We can't ahve that happen.
sam 27/12/20 12:10 pm heh i know w:)
sam 27/12/20 12:11 pm hey i heard gwb is concerned about the economy
already
sam 27/12/20 12:11 pm i hope he pumps up the economy.. we need it :)
iBLAMEj00 27/12/20 12:11 pm Heh, yea. You hear about the dotcom guy that
went nuts and killed those people?
sam 27/12/20 12:12 pm yeah
iBLAMEj00 27/12/20 12:12 pm I think W needs to pump some money into the
internet =)
iBLAMEj00 27/12/20 12:12 pm So he can say that he saved the internet =)
sam 27/12/20 12:12 pm yeah..otherwise our webmasters will be
lynching us huh :)
iBLAMEj00 27/12/20 12:12 pm heh, yea.
iBLAMEj00 27/12/20 12:13 pm megagames must be cheating.
sam 27/12/20 12:13 pm actually, efront is really a shared risk
anyways.. whatever happens, it would happen to
ppl individually too for the most part
(declining ad rates, etc.)
iBLAMEj00 27/12/20 12:13 pm which is cool =)
sam 27/12/20 12:13 pm no
sam 27/12/20 12:13 pm they're not:)
iBLAMEj00 27/12/20 12:14 pm Is he using #4 or#14?
sam 27/12/20 12:14 pm 14
sam 27/12/20 12:14 pm 4 = megabuys
iBLAMEj00 27/12/20 12:14 pm 4 megagames
iBLAMEj00 27/12/20 12:14 pm heh
sam 27/12/20 12:15 pm i know.. megabuys on megagames
sam 27/12/20 12:15 pm tahts the animated gif
iBLAMEj00 27/12/20 12:15 pm But I'm still winning =)
sam 27/12/20 12:15 pm um no
sam 27/12/20 12:15 pm 14 = massive :)
iBLAMEj00 27/12/20 12:15 pm 14,211 to 13,679 =)
iBLAMEj00 27/12/20 12:15 pm 14 MegaGames-Perl 13,679 edit | delete
sam 27/12/20 12:16 pm oh well sums dont count
sam 27/12/20 12:16 pm daily rates matter:)
iBLAMEj00 27/12/20 12:16 pm 1007 efront-rollout.com (Arcade@Home) 14,211
edit | delete
iBLAMEj00 27/12/20 12:16 pm Heh
sam 27/12/20 12:16 pm he'll surpassu in a jiffy
iBLAMEj00 27/12/20 12:16 pm So, what's he doing?
sam 27/12/20 12:16 pm i told him to add it to all his sectins
sam 27/12/20 12:16 pm he only has it in training and cracks so far
sam 27/12/20 12:16 pm i told him to copy you
sam 27/12/20 12:16 pm and put the product name
sam 27/12/20 12:16 pm for each download
sam 27/12/20 12:16 pm neat huh
iBLAMEj00 27/12/20 12:17 pm Yea, that's the ticket.
sam 27/12/20 12:17 pm http://www.megagames.com/cgi/download/database
cgi?33300&choosetype&
sam 27/12/20 12:17 pm we need to get 100k clicks a day soon man.. or
we're fucked
sam 27/12/20 12:18 pm january sales look horrible (bannerwise)
sam 27/12/20 12:18 pm on the bright side, we acquired worklife.com
and lot of $$potential there
iBLAMEj00 27/12/20 12:19 pm Well, it was nice taking the venture
capitalists money while it lasted =)
sam 27/12/20 12:19 pm i know.. we should have
sam 27/12/20 12:19 pm this sux :/
iBLAMEj00 27/12/20 12:20 pm And this week totally sucks for traffic.
sam 27/12/20 12:20 pm probably a good thing..:) we have 2 much
traffic
sam 27/12/20 12:20 pm traffic doesnt pay heh.. (unless its totally
free :)
iBLAMEj00 27/12/20 12:20 pm Yea, that may be good. But, less traffic,
less storerunner clicks.
sam 27/12/20 12:21 pm yeah dat would suck
sam 27/12/20 12:21 pm i tried a few games though.. redalert 2
sam 27/12/20 12:21 pm and aoe
sam 27/12/20 12:21 pm ra2 is fun :)
iBLAMEj00 27/12/20 12:22 pm I show this week down about 20%. That's about
the norm for this week.
sam 27/12/20 12:22 pm i think one of our ad servers was fucked..
cais21
sam 27/12/20 12:22 pm so showed alot of defaults past 2 days :/
iBLAMEj00 27/12/20 12:22 pm No, that's my own stats.
sam 27/12/20 12:22 pm iknow
sam 27/12/20 12:22 pm but still..
iBLAMEj00 27/12/20 12:23 pm Santa get you anything cool? =)
sam 27/12/20 12:23 pm jus clothes, usual..
how boutu.. any new toys? cuzi know how u like
toys
iBLAMEj00 27/12/20 12:23 pm My wife got me a 3'x3' Arcade@Home neon sign.
iBLAMEj00 27/12/20 12:24 pm For the arcade.
iBLAMEj00 27/12/20 12:24 pm I didn't take a good picture yet (been too
busy).
iBLAMEj00 27/12/20 12:24 pm http://arcadeathome.efront.com/images/news/neo
.jpg
iBLAMEj00 27/12/20 12:24 pm That's a crappy webcam picture.
sam 27/12/20 12:25 pm heh.. you can introduce your own broadband
service for gamers and go head to heqad
against dreamcast ala excite@home :/
sam 27/12/20 12:25 pm put that in ur news item heh
sam 27/12/20 12:26 pm or..arcadeathome buys exciteathome and have a
pic of u at the news podium w/ excite guys
sharking hands like u did with W
iBLAMEj00 27/12/20 12:26 pm Heh
iBLAMEj00 27/12/20 12:27 pm We should sue excite@home
sam 27/12/20 12:27 pm make a living off of that and shut efront down
:)
iBLAMEj00 27/12/20 12:27 pm "confusion of trademark name"
iBLAMEj00 27/12/20 12:28 pm We could probably get a nice settlement =)
sam 27/12/20 12:29 pm was aah around before @h
iBLAMEj00 27/12/20 12:29 pm No, but before excite@home =)
iBLAMEj00 27/12/20 12:30 pm Did I ever tell you about the guy on @home
with the user name "arcade". His e-mail
address is arcade@home.com
iBLAMEj00 27/12/20 12:30 pm He gets all kinds of mail =)
iBLAMEj00 27/12/20 12:30 pm I talked to him a few times on IRC also. He
wanted me to do something about it. Like what
could I do?
sam 27/12/20 12:31 pm lol ya
iBLAMEj00 27/12/20 12:31 pm I told him to get another e-mail address.
sam 27/12/20 12:31 pm tell him to give u the email addr:)
iBLAMEj00 27/12/20 12:31 pm I did
sam 27/12/20 12:31 pm and he wont have prbs anymore
iBLAMEj00 27/12/20 12:31 pm Heh
sam 27/12/20 12:31 pm its like the person whose phone # is 555 1213
iBLAMEj00 27/12/20 12:32 pm I told him that I could make a post to NOT
e-mail him at arcade@home.com, but then
everyone would mail him =)
sam 27/12/20 12:32 pm heh
sam 27/12/20 12:32 pm maybe have an automated filter?
if email from user x & user x has aah cookie,
popup srunner window
end if
iBLAMEj00 27/12/20 12:33 pm I'll change the logo on my site to the real
neon sign in a day or two (when I get some
free time). It will be cool (maybe even
blink) =)
iBLAMEj00 27/12/20 12:33 pm How about give people the storerunner pop-up
till they sign-up for the mailing list =)
iBLAMEj00 27/12/20 12:34 pm "if you want to remove the pop-ups, please
sign-up for our mailing list"
iBLAMEj00 27/12/20 12:34 pm Then just keep giving them the pop-ups anyway
=)
iBLAMEj00 27/12/20 12:34 pm That's evil, I like it.
iBLAMEj00 27/12/20 12:42 pm There, added a storerunner ad to the center
top of my home page and my newsboy pages:
http://arcadeathome.efront.com/
http://arcadeathome.efront.com/newsboy.phtml?N
oPocott_v0.38b
Random top games =)
iBLAMEj00 27/12/20 12:43 pm We really only need 75k storerunner clicks/day
for the $250k/month, right?
sam 27/12/20 12:44 pm well, technically,l 11.5 cents cpc
so 100k clicks a day = 360$k/month
enough for my salary
sam 27/12/20 12:44 pm j/k :)
iBLAMEj00 27/12/20 12:44 pm Heh
sam 27/12/20 12:44 pm enough to take care of all the webmasters
sam 27/12/20 12:44 pm and gives us some breathing room
sam 27/12/20 12:44 pm do you have access to sam.php
iBLAMEj00 27/12/20 12:44 pm What are we doing right now?
sam 27/12/20 12:44 pm http://cais21.netwhirl.com/RealMedia/sam.php3
iBLAMEj00 27/12/20 12:44 pm sam.php? No.
sam 27/12/20 12:45 pm password=ooga
sam 27/12/20 12:45 pm you can see the site and the traffcis
sam 27/12/20 12:45 pm we're doing i think 20k clicks a dya probably
sam 27/12/20 12:45 pm need 80k more to go
iBLAMEj00 27/12/20 12:46 pm Well, we should be able to save a lot on
webmaster payments.
iBLAMEj00 27/12/20 12:46 pm (with them not doing what we ask).
sam 27/12/20 12:46 pm ya i know..i guess we gotta start getting
tougher onthem
iBLAMEj00 27/12/20 12:48 pm sam.php3 is busted.
sam 27/12/20 12:49 pm only use one date :)
iBLAMEj00 27/12/20 12:49 pm Oh, there it goes.
sam 27/12/20 12:49 pm i did 12/21 to 12/21
iBLAMEj00 27/12/20 12:50 pm It don't matter what site name I use either.
sam 27/12/20 12:50 pm nope
iBLAMEj00 27/12/20 12:51 pm Okay, I give up, what is it reporting? Just
top of page ads?
sam 27/12/20 12:51 pm unique pageviews = to banner
pageviews= top + bottom banner
iBLAMEj00 27/12/20 12:52 pm 20.8 pageviews/viewer!?!
iBLAMEj00 27/12/20 12:53 pm 30.7?
iBLAMEj00 27/12/20 12:53 pm WTF?
sam 27/12/20 12:53 pm what date range
sam 27/12/20 12:53 pm did you use
iBLAMEj00 27/12/20 12:53 pm Megagames kicks some ass.
iBLAMEj00 27/12/20 12:54 pm 12/20
sam 27/12/20 12:54 pm yeah
sam 27/12/20 12:54 pm is that alot
sam 27/12/20 12:54 pm pageviews = to + bottom banner
sam 27/12/20 12:54 pm unique pageviews = top banner only
sam 27/12/20 12:54 pm like i said, way too much traffic ..we made
some mistakes..shouldve got more sales ppl..
kinda in a bind now.. too much traffidc
iBLAMEj00 27/12/20 12:54 pm Yea, but that's a butt-load of page views per
visitor.
sam 27/12/20 12:54 pm and not enough $
sam 27/12/20 12:55 pm yeah thats the other sucky thing
sam 27/12/20 12:55 pm the more pageviews per users we have, the
suckier the clickthru rates
sam 27/12/20 12:55 pm so sticky = bad
iBLAMEj00 27/12/20 12:55 pm Right.
sam 27/12/20 12:55 pm cuz bad ctr = lower $
sam 27/12/20 12:55 pm so like teenstaiton, im going to kick them out
:)
sam 27/12/20 12:55 pm wayyy too many imps
iBLAMEj00 27/12/20 12:55 pm But you pay webmasters by page views instead
of unique visitors.
sam 27/12/20 12:55 pm iknow.. i told our acq ppl to sotp doing that
sam 27/12/20 12:56 pm do it by daily unique users
iBLAMEj00 27/12/20 12:56 pm Yea, that would be best.
sam 27/12/20 12:56 pm cuz otherwise things like gateways and stuff
doesnt help
iBLAMEj00 27/12/20 12:56 pm Yup.
iBLAMEj00 27/12/20 12:56 pm I can't believe that emux.com is even in the
top10 still.
iBLAMEj00 27/12/20 12:56 pm That's amazing.
sam 27/12/20 12:58 pm hey i showed u that so u can help on srunner:)
sam 27/12/20 12:58 pm emux.. he doesnt cooperate much
iBLAMEj00 27/12/20 12:58 pm astalavista.com's got some good unique visitor
numbers and a low pageview/visitor rate. I
bet you like that one =)
iBLAMEj00 27/12/20 12:58 pm I thought he died.
iBLAMEj00 27/12/20 12:59 pm He hasn't updated any of his sites in months.
sam 27/12/20 12:59 pm yeah astalavista is grat:)
sam 27/12/20 12:59 pm ya.. i think him and his partner are fighting
or something
iBLAMEj00 27/12/20 12:59 pm You mean the emux guys?
iBLAMEj00 27/12/20 12:59 pm I thoguht it was just one guy (jedimaster or
something like that).
sam 27/12/20 1:00 pm i think its 2
iBLAMEj00 27/12/20 1:02 pm First column is unique visitors? (Viewers)
iBLAMEj00 27/12/20 1:05 pm 78. www.stas.net 28,237 32,797 27,163 53,614
169,727
iBLAMEj00 27/12/20 1:05 pm ???
iBLAMEj00 27/12/20 1:05 pm I thought they gave a shitload of uniques?
iBLAMEj00 27/12/20 1:08 pm We should focus on the sites that deliver the
most unique visitors per day to promote
storerunner (because that will get us the
highest returns).
sam 27/12/20 1:09 pm yeah
sam 27/12/20 1:10 pm well stas
sam 27/12/20 1:10 pm its only the member pages
sam 27/12/20 1:10 pm oops
sam 27/12/20 1:10 pm its only the webmaster interface ppages
sam 27/12/20 1:10 pm not the members (no banners on it)
iBLAMEj00 27/12/20 1:10 pm Oh yea, gotcha.
iBLAMEj00 27/12/20 1:11 pm Like freevote could add a storerunner link on
their voting pages.
iBLAMEj00 27/12/20 1:11 pm That would get lots of unique exposure.
sam 27/12/20 1:11 pm i know.. im trying to get nate to do that
3$!#@$!
sam 27/12/20 1:11 pm he cant get a hold of the stupid guy or
something
iBLAMEj00 27/12/20 1:12 pm If when people setup a vote they specify a
catetory, then we could target the ads also.
iBLAMEj00 27/12/20 1:12 pm A targeted ad will get clicked 2-4 times as
often.
iBLAMEj00 27/12/20 1:12 pm Even if the targeting isn't perfect, it will
help.
sam 27/12/20 1:12 pm i know
iBLAMEj00 27/12/20 1:13 pm We should sort this list by Viewers and just
go down the list.
iBLAMEj00 27/12/20 1:14 pm Then we can focus on the sites with the most
return potential.
iBLAMEj00 27/12/20 1:14 pm And megagames should kick my ass up and down
the block =)
sam 27/12/20 1:15 pm yeah but..
sam 27/12/20 1:15 pm underdogs win too
sam 27/12/20 1:15 pm thats why the jets were underdogs by 17 points
and still won :)
iBLAMEj00 27/12/20 1:15 pm Oh yea, but we can't hand-hold all sites.
iBLAMEj00 27/12/20 1:16 pm We can let G3 keep the heat on all the sites.
sam 27/12/20 1:16 pm yeah.. thats what im thinking.. let G3 keep
the heat.. and you & nate work together in
blitzkrieg fashion for selected sites
iBLAMEj00 27/12/20 1:16 pm And we can focus on the top ones.
iBLAMEj00 27/12/20 1:18 pm Like astalavista has some useless Affiliates
channel guide.
sam 27/12/20 1:18 pm lemme see
iBLAMEj00 27/12/20 1:18 pm http://www.astalavista.com/en/
iBLAMEj00 27/12/20 1:19 pm He does have http://shopping.efront.com/
iBLAMEj00 27/12/20 1:19 pm Maybe it's not so useless =)
sam 27/12/20 1:19 pm that is useless .. no clicks though
sam 27/12/20 1:19 pm who cares about efront stuf.. we need the $
and clicks :)
iBLAMEj00 27/12/20 1:20 pm He should have some juicy links on the left
with the rest.
iBLAMEj00 27/12/20 1:20 pm Like make the thing on the right the normal
web guide.
iBLAMEj00 27/12/20 1:21 pm And add a storerunner link on the left like
"Secret best price search"
iBLAMEj00 27/12/20 1:21 pm =)
sam 27/12/20 1:21 pm yeah taht would work.. he gets alot of
searches too
iBLAMEj00 27/12/20 1:22 pm "Double secret, back-door, price search
engine"
iBLAMEj00 27/12/20 1:22 pm =)
iBLAMEj00 27/12/20 1:23 pm "Outlawed best price search engine"
iBLAMEj00 27/12/20 1:23 pm heh, I like that one.
iBLAMEj00 27/12/20 1:24 pm And add a new option to his search for
storerunner.
iBLAMEj00 27/12/20 1:24 pm But, of course, don't call it store runner.
iBLAMEj00 27/12/20 1:24 pm "Outlawed best price search engine" would be
better.
sam 27/12/20 1:24 pm ooh good idea
sam 27/12/20 1:24 pm bet he'd generate tons of clicks
iBLAMEj00 27/12/20 1:24 pm Shit yea.
iBLAMEj00 27/12/20 1:25 pm I'd make it the second option, what does he
care.
sam 27/12/20 1:25 pm why not make it the default :)
iBLAMEj00 27/12/20 1:25 pm Heh, sure =)
iBLAMEj00 27/12/20 1:25 pm He could make like 3 changes to his site and
get mad clicks.
iBLAMEj00 27/12/20 1:26 pm Probably at least 6k a day, maybe more like
10k.
sam 27/12/20 1:27 pm i know when we had the stupid mammasearch
there, he was doing goodclicks
iBLAMEj00 27/12/20 1:27 pm If he was a wimp and just added a
"Storerunner" link, it would get shit for
clicks.
sam 27/12/20 1:27 pm i wish we had hitbox or something
sam 27/12/20 1:27 pm for all the sites so we knew where ppl clicked
sam 27/12/20 1:27 pm would hitbox provide that
iBLAMEj00 27/12/20 1:28 pm Where people clicked?
sam 27/12/20 1:28 pm well some sort of traffic analyzer
sam 27/12/20 1:28 pm so we can see the flow of traffic on a website
sam 27/12/20 1:29 pm ie which areas are the most popuplar
iBLAMEj00 27/12/20 1:29 pm Oh, hitbox may do it.
iBLAMEj00 27/12/20 1:29 pm I do it on my site.
iBLAMEj00 27/12/20 1:29 pm http://arcadeathome.efront.com/dl/stats/pagest
ts.phtml
sam 27/12/20 1:29 pm do you use webanalzier or something
iBLAMEj00 27/12/20 1:29 pm user: nate pass: nate
iBLAMEj00 27/12/20 1:30 pm I just wrote it myself.
iBLAMEj00 27/12/20 1:30 pm Just don't click "reset stats".
sam 27/12/20 1:30 pm that is cool
sam 27/12/20 1:30 pm whats view?
iBLAMEj00 27/12/20 1:30 pm That's what I use to see how a new section is
doing.
sam 27/12/20 1:31 pm so the top category.. what is that
iBLAMEj00 27/12/20 1:31 pm That's the downloads.
sam 27/12/20 1:31 pm heh so w/o downloads aah is nothing :)
iBLAMEj00 27/12/20 1:32 pm Or 50% of what it was before. =)
iBLAMEj00 27/12/20 1:32 pm And look at that gateway =)
sam 27/12/20 1:33 pm oh thats the fake traffic huh :) we should put
srunner links on the gateway pages.. like 3
links next to a banner or something or one
link
iBLAMEj00 27/12/20 1:33 pm Yea, make a storerunner banner code that's
like 120x60 and I'll add one or two to it.
sam 27/12/20 1:34 pm or just text links.. i think text links work
better than 120x60
sam 27/12/20 1:34 pm 120x60 = no cliks i ever seen
sam 27/12/20 1:34 pm on the home page of the downloads, the
'download accelerator plus' make it a
storerunner product that does the same thing
:)
iBLAMEj00 27/12/20 1:35 pm Heh, I don't know if any are for sale.
iBLAMEj00 27/12/20 1:35 pm I'm testing out the game search there to make
it storerunner =)
sam 27/12/20 1:36 pm http://shop.efront.com/jump.asp?iftype=isearch
onum=1&cid=800398&moid=7568680&kwords=centiped
&mid=2111&asid=1&clid=2202&zip=0&radius=0&area
d=0&stype=6
iBLAMEj00 27/12/20 1:36 pm I can't really call it "Game Search". Maybe
"Product Search".
sam 27/12/20 1:36 pm ya product search works
sam 27/12/20 1:37 pm btw
sam 27/12/20 1:37 pm all your downloads have sruner links
sam 27/12/20 1:37 pm i checked centipede
sam 27/12/20 1:37 pm its in shop.efront.co
sam 27/12/20 1:37 pm so is ms pacman
sam 27/12/20 1:37 pm :)
iBLAMEj00 27/12/20 1:37 pm Yea, they all have srunner links =)
sam 27/12/20 1:38 pm ohh..heh i see
iBLAMEj00 27/12/20 1:38 pm All like 5,500 of them.
iBLAMEj00 27/12/20 1:39 pm It uses a popular game database, not the game
you are viewing.
iBLAMEj00 27/12/20 1:39 pm Most wouldn't have hits because only a few are
for sale.
sam 27/12/20 1:39 pm any1 complain so far?
iBLAMEj00 27/12/20 1:39 pm Not a soul.
sam 27/12/20 1:40 pm i see how u changed the
iBLAMEj00 27/12/20 1:40 pm And if they did, I'd tell them to make sure
the door doesn't hit their ass on the way out
=)
sam 27/12/20 1:40 pm i agree to th e left sometimes
sam 27/12/20 1:40 pm thats evil :)
iBLAMEj00 27/12/20 1:40 pm Yea, EVIL.
sam 27/12/20 1:41 pm even i clicked on it by mistkae:)
iBLAMEj00 27/12/20 1:41 pm heh, sucker.
iBLAMEj00 27/12/20 1:41 pm I can't help if someone clicks on a clearly
marked link.
sam 27/12/20 1:41 pm hey :)
sam 27/12/20 1:42 pm got this is pathetic.. 70% of banners arent
loading
sam 27/12/20 1:42 pm i hope they fix the ad server prbs soon
iBLAMEj00 27/12/20 1:42 pm Get used to it.
iBLAMEj00 27/12/20 1:43 pm That report shows some cool things, like:
13 http://arcadeathome.com/mobilenews.php
27,030 0.67% 7.73% 2,590
sam 27/12/20 1:44 pm thats really neat
sam 27/12/20 1:44 pm i luv that report
iBLAMEj00 27/12/20 1:44 pm 2,590 pageviews a day on my mobile news.
sam 27/12/20 1:44 pm would luv to do that for all our sites!
iBLAMEj00 27/12/20 1:44 pm Did you know that I was report crazy?
iBLAMEj00 27/12/20 1:44 pm Without reports, how do you know where to
focus?
iBLAMEj00 27/12/20 1:44 pm Or where to stick storerunner ads =)
sam 27/12/20 1:44 pm well you kinda hvae to be.. optimizationf
freajs are data hungary
sam 27/12/20 1:44 pm yeah i know
iBLAMEj00 27/12/20 1:47 pm This report takes a minute to generate, but is
another good one.
http://arcadeathome.efront.com/dl/stats/ref.ph
ml
iBLAMEj00 27/12/20 1:48 pm So you know what partnerships are working and
which ones are not.
sam 27/12/20 1:48 pm wow.. hitboss huh
iBLAMEj00 27/12/20 1:49 pm Yea, I cheat on his topsite =)
sam 27/12/20 1:49 pm t-100 gives u that much traffic wow
iBLAMEj00 27/12/20 1:49 pm Yea, that's what I want to run it =)
sam 27/12/20 1:49 pm hitboss.. did u ever get a hold of the guy :)
iBLAMEj00 27/12/20 1:49 pm I finally did, when he asked if I was cheating
=)
iBLAMEj00 27/12/20 1:49 pm I'm too smart for him though =)
iBLAMEj00 27/12/20 1:50 pm He didn't return my e-mail.
sam 27/12/20 1:50 pm heh
sam 27/12/20 1:50 pm how many ppl have aah bookmarked
sam 27/12/20 1:50 pm ?
iBLAMEj00 27/12/20 1:50 pm 59.33% of my visitors are bookmarked.
sam 27/12/20 1:51 pm oh duh i see that
iBLAMEj00 27/12/20 1:51 pm I was thinking of doing an evil auto-homepage
thing =)
iBLAMEj00 27/12/20 1:51 pm Just for AOL people =)
sam 27/12/20 1:52 pm can u do it w/o them having to click ok
sam 27/12/20 1:52 pm to accept it?
iBLAMEj00 27/12/20 1:52 pm Well, there are tricks to do it.
iBLAMEj00 27/12/20 1:53 pm Like this:
http://arcadeathome.efront.com/newsboyprt.phtm
?Latest_MAME_WIP
iBLAMEj00 27/12/20 1:53 pm That forces a print (user still has to specify
the printer settings).
iBLAMEj00 27/12/20 1:54 pm But it could be done so it happens
automatically.
sam 27/12/20 1:54 pm so lets use all ur tricks network wide.. too
evil :)
iBLAMEj00 27/12/20 1:54 pm Heh, network wide on just AOL users =)
iBLAMEj00 27/12/20 1:55 pm AOL users are too stupid to notice.
sam 27/12/20 1:55 pm really :) i guess you're right.. they're
probably dumber than mot when it come to tech
/ computers
iBLAMEj00 27/12/20 1:56 pm I like to test new things out on AOL users.
sam 27/12/20 1:59 pm since we bought worklife.com .. its 10 cent
cpc on that stuff too.. aah jobs :)
sam 27/12/20 1:59 pm we can even have it aah co-branded
sam 27/12/20 1:59 pm i really wanted nate to get srunner to change
it from saying 'return to efront' to return to
sitename'
sam 27/12/20 1:59 pm but he was like oh no blahblah
sam 27/12/20 2:00 pm that it was hard onthe fly etc
sam 27/12/20 2:00 pm i bet that would increase hits
sam 27/12/20 2:00 pm i wonder how many ppl click on the webguide
sam 27/12/20 2:00 pm @ aah
sam 27/12/20 2:00 pm does ur report show that
sam 27/12/20 2:00 pm probably nthuh
iBLAMEj00 27/12/20 2:00 pm Nope, no way of knowing.
iBLAMEj00 27/12/20 2:02 pm Heh, my forums are now religious:
http://arcadeathome.efront.com/forums/read.php
f=15&i=2666&t=2666
iBLAMEj00 27/12/20 2:03 pm There's only one thing that will stir people
up more than politics and that's religion. =)
sam 27/12/20 2:03 pm i wonder if we can embed srunner clicks as
part of the msgs (randomly) hehe.. now THAT
would be evil =)
sam 27/12/20 2:03 pm nah, crossing the line between ads and content
will stir up ppl more:)
iBLAMEj00 27/12/20 2:03 pm Oh, I could do that =)
sam 27/12/20 2:04 pm Matthew 11:34 Buy Noah's Ark collector set
sam 27/12/20 2:04 pm :)
iBLAMEj00 27/12/20 2:04 pm Actually make it part of someone's message.
Look for the end of a sentence and say
something like "And try out this great
game..."
iBLAMEj00 27/12/20 2:04 pm Right.
sam 27/12/20 2:05 pm yeah.. would ppl bepissed
iBLAMEj00 27/12/20 2:05 pm Look for key words and replace them!
iBLAMEj00 27/12/20 2:05 pm Oh shit, this forum software has that feature.
iBLAMEj00 27/12/20 2:05 pm It's used for bad language, like fuck
translates to @#$%
iBLAMEj00 27/12/20 2:06 pm But, I could make "pokemon" change to a link
to pokemon =)
iBLAMEj00 27/12/20 2:06 pm Now THAT would piss people off.
sam 27/12/20 2:06 pm i was asking matt/nate/james reno to do that
sam 27/12/20 2:06 pm for bytecenter/fboards/ubb/vbulletin
sam 27/12/20 2:06 pm across efront
sam 27/12/20 2:06 pm hehe.. but they were like oh its too hard
blahblah
iBLAMEj00 27/12/20 2:06 pm Heh, too funny.
sam 27/12/20 2:06 pm i didnt think that would be bd
sam 27/12/20 2:06 pm its not like its intefrferin with their
content
sam 27/12/20 2:06 pm the link is harmlesss
sam 27/12/20 2:07 pm click only if u want to
sam 27/12/20 2:07 pm we're not forcing clicks :)
sam 27/12/20 2:07 pm (not yet:)
iBLAMEj00 27/12/20 2:08 pm Heh
iBLAMEj00 27/12/20 2:08 pm onload="storerunner();"
iBLAMEj00 27/12/20 2:12 pm Man, megagames is kicking my ass with
storerunner.
iBLAMEj00 27/12/20 2:12 pm But, he's got like 4x my uniques.
sam 27/12/20 2:13 pm oh cmon.. i know u can beat him:)
iBLAMEj00 27/12/20 2:13 pm Heh, I don't think so.
iBLAMEj00 27/12/20 2:13 pm He's site is about games that are for sale =)
sam 27/12/20 2:14 pm i saw ms pacman @ srunner
iBLAMEj00 27/12/20 2:14 pm My site is about games that have stopped being
sold 20 years ago =)
sam 27/12/20 2:14 pm along withmany games
sam 27/12/20 2:14 pm even berzerk
iBLAMEj00 27/12/20 2:14 pm heh
sam 27/12/20 2:14 pm so what if it was a book about psycolohy @
barnes and noble:)
iBLAMEj00 27/12/20 2:14 pm Heh, exactly =)
iBLAMEj00 27/12/20 2:15 pm http://efront.storerunner.com/jump.asp?iftype=
search&onum=1&cid=83800&moid=3815142&kwords=be
zerk&mid=4606&asid=1&clid=2202&zip=43551&radiu
=15&areaid=0
sam 27/12/20 2:15 pm actually some1 from aah would actually buy
that
sam 27/12/20 2:15 pm thats the scary aprt
sam 27/12/20 2:15 pm part
iBLAMEj00 27/12/20 2:16 pm Heh, not the bible guy from my forum.
iBLAMEj00 27/12/20 2:17 pm Every time someone says "bible" on the forum,
I'll send them here:
http://shop.efront.com/jump.asp?iftype=sresult
&onum=0&price=&bid=&mid=&cid=0&kwords=bible&fw
rds=&sort=0&page=1&tcook=1&sid=E4E7B279-5DC4-4
70-88F3-147833E3595D&asid=1&clid=2202&zip=0&ra
ius=0&areaid=0&stype=1
iBLAMEj00 27/12/20 2:17 pm Or here
http://shop.efront.com/jump.asp?iftype=sresult
&onum=0&price=&bid=&mid=&cid=0&kwords=holy+bib
e&fwords=&sort=0&page=1&tcook=1&sid=CD4919CD-4
55-45CA-A815-F2244846F541&asid=1&clid=2202&zip
0&radius=0&areaid=0&stype=1
iBLAMEj00 27/12/20 2:17 pm That could actually work...
iBLAMEj00 27/12/20 2:18 pm Find words that are used most in a forum, then
find products to those keywords, then link to
those products when someone types the
keywords.
iBLAMEj00 27/12/20 2:19 pm Then it would be targeted, and show the actual
product they are talking about.
sam 27/12/20 2:21 pm yeah that would work
iBLAMEj00 27/12/20 2:22 pm *I* could do it, but doing it network wide
would be next to impossible.
sam 27/12/20 2:22 pm can we test it on ur stuff and if it works we
could roll it network wide
sam 27/12/20 2:22 pm using apachemodules
sam 27/12/20 2:22 pm and modify everything
sam 27/12/20 2:22 pm not just
nt/sql/sun/forums/content/news/reviews
sam 27/12/20 2:22 pm everything the webservers spit out:0
sam 27/12/20 2:22 pm hehe
iBLAMEj00 27/12/20 2:23 pm Yea, including links, which would break
things.
sam 27/12/20 2:23 pm well the apache modeule would be smart enough
sam 27/12/20 2:24 pm that if it was a link, it wouldnt double link
iBLAMEj00 27/12/20 2:24 pm EVIL =)
sam 27/12/20 2:24 pm i was trying to get Bob to do it
sam 27/12/20 2:24 pm thats not evil.. just a little innocent link
(whisle)
sam 27/12/20 2:24 pm :)
iBLAMEj00 27/12/20 2:25 pm Do it for sites that don't add their own
storerunner links =)
sam 27/12/20 2:25 pm heh ya i know.. its stisll along ways away
though
iBLAMEj00 30/12/20 12:31 am But, storerunner don't pay us unless they stay
at the site for at least 5 or 10 seconds or
something like that. Therefore, they click on
the Storerunner price, see that it's not lower
(which it's not in almost every case) and
quickly close the window or go back.
I really think that eFront can make far more
by getting $0.115 or whatever it is per click
via Storerunner than getting a percentage of
games purchased.
iBLAMEj00 30/12/20 12:31 am Also, once people realize that the Storerunner
price is not lower, then will never be "dared"
to click on it again.
iBLAMEj00 30/12/20 12:31 am I say that VGS should add this to his own site
first and see what actually happens.
iBLAMEj00 30/12/20 12:32 am Maybe create a unique Storerunner code just
for this technique so you can track what
actually happens.
sam 30/12/20 12:37 am who says they dont pay us unless the user
stays for at least 5 to 10 seconds.. btw, our
average user spends 1.2 minutes on srunnre
iBLAMEj00 30/12/20 12:37 am That's what storerunner says.
sam 30/12/20 12:37 am wellmost of our users stay for awhile.. ill
esnd u their report next time
iBLAMEj00 30/12/20 12:38 am It also seems to only track uniques.
iBLAMEj00 30/12/20 12:38 am Also, storerunner says they only pay for
uniques (which is the norm).
iBLAMEj00 30/12/20 12:39 am I'd bet that storerunner tracks our users just
as they do any other user. Unique visitors
and only visitors that stay for at least 5 or
10 seconds (I forget which).
iBLAMEj00 30/12/20 12:39 am What's the exact amount that we make per click
with storerunner?
iBLAMEj00 30/12/20 12:40 am I'm starting to get some goto stats and need
to figure it out.
sam 30/12/20 12:40 am 11.5 cents
iBLAMEj00 30/12/20 12:41 am Okay, I only have one game in goto right now
(waiting for them to add the other games).
iBLAMEj00 30/12/20 12:41 am And all games only have a bid for .01
iBLAMEj00 30/12/20 12:42 am So the number of clicks is low (as it's
intended for the test).
sam 30/12/20 12:42 am yup.. gotta go to a meeting.. btw, nate has
most of these answeres as well.. talk to u
soon :)
iBLAMEj00 30/12/20 12:42 am k
iBLAMEj00 31/12/20 2:25 pm I'm kicking megagames' ass on the storerunner
campaign. Either he removed something that
was added, or it didn't last too long.
sam 31/12/20 2:27 pm he had 8k yesterday?
iBLAMEj00 31/12/20 2:27 pm I'm averaging about the same rate of 1.2
clicks per minute (1,771/day for the last 3
days) while megagames has been averaging
1,359/day for the last 3 days.
iBLAMEj00 31/12/20 2:28 pm Oh, forget it, he's kicking my ass.
iBLAMEj00 31/12/20 2:28 pm I was looking at 4 instead of 14.
iBLAMEj00 31/12/20 2:28 pm Who is 4 so I can change the name.
sam 31/12/20 2:29 pm thats megabuys thing on megagames.com
sam 31/12/20 2:29 pm im tracking them separately
iBLAMEj00 31/12/20 2:29 pm I screwed up
iBLAMEj00 31/12/20 2:29 pm Well, I'm kicking megabuys' ass =)
sam 31/12/20 2:30 pm heh..i have a meeting w/ storerunner ceo this
comingwednesday
sam 31/12/20 2:30 pm im gonna tell him that we want to be paid net
term of 10 days :)
sam 31/12/20 2:30 pm and also, that if there's problems with any
stats.. they have to notify us in 24 hrs.
sam 31/12/20 2:31 pm for the last 24 hr stat.. or it counts
sam 31/12/20 2:31 pm and we need assurances we'll get paid, etc.
iBLAMEj00 31/12/20 2:31 pm Yea
sam 31/12/20 2:31 pm man.. hardly any of our sites are using sruner
sam 31/12/20 2:32 pm we suck :)
iBLAMEj00 31/12/20 2:32 pm We don't want to be busting our ass and
dedicating so much to them if they are not
going to pay.
sam 31/12/20 2:32 pm like 20% penetration
iBLAMEj00 31/12/20 2:32 pm Well, makes it easy to figure out who to pay
this month.
sam 31/12/20 2:32 pm i know heh
sam 31/12/20 2:32 pm we got tons of exciting things in the hopper
though
sam 31/12/20 2:33 pm next few weeks should be nice
iBLAMEj00 31/12/20 2:33 pm Did our payments come through this month?
sam 31/12/20 2:33 pm we have like 0 cash right now:) .. getting
300k next week
iBLAMEj00 31/12/20 2:33 pm Ah, that's the money I was talking about.
sam 31/12/20 2:34 pm in the next 2 weeks, we get 500k..but it goes
out fast.. payroll, building rent, webmasters,
s4r
sam 31/12/20 2:34 pm we're moving finally! yay
iBLAMEj00 31/12/20 2:34 pm I assume we are still sending storerunner
clicks for their pre-payment?
sam 31/12/20 2:34 pm no more cais.. shhhh
sam 31/12/20 2:34 pm we're going to ditch cais and let them rot
sam 31/12/20 2:34 pm they dont know that yet
sam 31/12/20 2:35 pm we're secretly copying all our shit outta
there
sam 31/12/20 2:35 pm then we'll turn the switch .. and bang :)
iBLAMEj00 31/12/20 2:35 pm Heh
sam 31/12/20 2:35 pm we're like their biggest customer by far
sam 31/12/20 2:35 pm if they found out, they'd turn us off right
now.. so shhh
sam 31/12/20 2:35 pm screw them
iBLAMEj00 31/12/20 2:35 pm Who we going with?
sam 31/12/20 2:35 pm s4r.com
sam 31/12/20 2:35 pm level 3
sam 31/12/20 2:35 pm its managed services
iBLAMEj00 31/12/20 2:35 pm Yea, I've heard of them.
sam 31/12/20 2:36 pm dont tell kevin s. either.. he's friends w/
cais
sam 31/12/20 2:36 pm so he might tell them .. shh :)
iBLAMEj00 31/12/20 2:36 pm No problem.
sam 31/12/20 2:36 pm its 100% managed services
sam 31/12/20 2:36 pm so they'll handle everything
iBLAMEj00 31/12/20 2:36 pm How's the cost over cais?
sam 31/12/20 2:36 pm ive been negotiating real hard
sam 31/12/20 2:36 pm over the last 2 months w/ them
sam 31/12/20 2:36 pm got them down alot
sam 31/12/20 2:36 pm its more than cais
sam 31/12/20 2:36 pm but it'llb e worth it
iBLAMEj00 31/12/20 2:37 pm With the number of servers, it should be a
good deal.
sam 31/12/20 2:37 pm like 75k.. and cais was 50k
sam 31/12/20 2:37 pm and cais provided no support
sam 31/12/20 2:37 pm or nothing
iBLAMEj00 31/12/20 2:37 pm We keeping akamai?
sam 31/12/20 2:37 pm probably just for banners.. too expensive
right now :(
sam 31/12/20 2:38 pm we're getting behind on our akamai bill
iBLAMEj00 31/12/20 2:38 pm Yea, I don't like akamai anyway.
sam 31/12/20 2:38 pm really.. whys that
iBLAMEj00 31/12/20 2:38 pm Down too much
iBLAMEj00 31/12/20 2:38 pm Problems.
sam 31/12/20 2:38 pm also, we'll have to pay for bandwidth
sam 31/12/20 2:38 pm this time
sam 31/12/20 2:38 pm the 75k includes 150mb
sam 31/12/20 2:38 pm so..
sam 31/12/20 2:38 pm we might have to put a cap on some of the
servers
sam 31/12/20 2:38 pm like i know aah can do 50 mb by itself
sam 31/12/20 2:39 pm (burst)
sam 31/12/20 2:39 pm cuz its 500/mb over 150mb
iBLAMEj00 31/12/20 2:39 pm It's already capped at like 6mbps
sam 31/12/20 2:39 pm uncapped, i know that and stas can explode
iBLAMEj00 31/12/20 2:39 pm Or, we could leave that server at cais as long
as we could =)
sam 31/12/20 2:40 pm yeah i dont trust cais
sam 31/12/20 2:40 pm they threatend to turn us off 2 weeks ago
sam 31/12/20 2:40 pm fuckers :)
sam 31/12/20 2:40 pm they have pisspoor service and try to make us
pay full price
iBLAMEj00 31/12/20 2:40 pm We could always move my download server
quickly, I just have to change a few IPs and
it's done.
sam 31/12/20 2:40 pm and kkr is kinda in control there now
iBLAMEj00 31/12/20 2:40 pm As long as we have a mirror image somewhere.
sam 31/12/20 2:40 pm ok that would be good.. move that at the last
second
sam 31/12/20 2:40 pm yeah
sam 31/12/20 2:40 pm we could do that easy
sam 31/12/20 2:41 pm i wonder if we can get some place for cheap
bandwidth for the biggest download stuff
sam 31/12/20 2:41 pm that cogentco.com does 100mb @ 1k
sam 31/12/20 2:41 pm but upstream only 1mb limit :(
iBLAMEj00 31/12/20 2:41 pm 100mb for $1k?
sam 31/12/20 2:42 pm ya.. cogentco.com
sam 31/12/20 2:42 pm like for office buildings or something
sam 31/12/20 2:42 pm ur back east.. see if they will run it to ur
farm :)
iBLAMEj00 31/12/20 2:42 pm That's damn cheap.
iBLAMEj00 31/12/20 2:43 pm Man, the kind of storerunner clicks I could
get with 100mbps =)
sam 31/12/20 2:44 pm well u have that now.. all the gaming sites :)
iBLAMEj00 31/12/20 2:44 pm GoTo didn't add the additional keywords :( I
had to change the script so it didn't do a
redirect.
sam 31/12/20 2:44 pm rally.. i guess they didnt like it?
iBLAMEj00 31/12/20 2:45 pm No, it was just a technicality. I worked
around it.
iBLAMEj00 31/12/20 2:45 pm But it will take them another 3 days to add
them :(
sam 31/12/20 2:45 pm they're so slow geez
iBLAMEj00 31/12/20 2:46 pm Yea, but the verify each keyword.
iBLAMEj00 31/12/20 2:46 pm Which is good so people get good results.
sam 31/12/20 2:46 pm yeah
iBLAMEj00 31/12/20 2:46 pm With the limited test I'm doing now, it looks
good.
sam 31/12/20 2:47 pm so how many clicks will ube able to get
iBLAMEj00 31/12/20 2:47 pm Spend $0.27, make $1.96
iBLAMEj00 31/12/20 2:47 pm I only have like 5 keywords now.
iBLAMEj00 31/12/20 2:47 pm And all are for only $0.01
sam 31/12/20 2:48 pm 8X ur money..not bad
iBLAMEj00 31/12/20 2:48 pm Yea, if I changed it to $.02, it would only be
4X, but, I could get probably more than 2
times the number of clicks.
sam 31/12/20 2:50 pm thats still not bad
sam 31/12/20 2:50 pm as a filler
sam 31/12/20 2:50 pm until all our sites get upto speed
sam 31/12/20 2:50 pm man.. only 25% of our sites have deployed
srunner it lookslike
and 5% of our sites get 90% of the clicks
sam 31/12/20 2:50 pm bad optimizations
iBLAMEj00 31/12/20 2:51 pm I see only two problems. One, the number of
keywords needed to make any kind of real
money. And two, that you have to pre-pay
GoTo.
sam 31/12/20 2:51 pm oh u do huh..
sam 31/12/20 2:51 pm well once u get a system down pat.. we'll put
it on our cc for 500$ to 1000$ at a time and
monitor
iBLAMEj00 31/12/20 2:52 pm Right, that's how I see it. If we can get
paid by storerunner every month, spending
$1,000 and getting $8,000 at the end of the
month ain't bad.
sam 31/12/20 2:53 pm nope
sam 31/12/20 2:53 pm 10k to make 80k:)
sam 31/12/20 2:53 pm ihope they dont get pissed off bout this
iBLAMEj00 31/12/20 2:53 pm Right =) All we need is enough keywords.
iBLAMEj00 31/12/20 2:53 pm I don't see why. I'll show you an ad on GoTo.
iBLAMEj00 31/12/20 2:55 pm goto.com and search for "tony hawk 2"
iBLAMEj00 31/12/20 2:56 pm Don't click on any of the links or you will
make us pay for it.
iBLAMEj00 31/12/20 2:56 pm #5 is the one that I posted.
iBLAMEj00 31/12/20 2:56 pm Tony Hawk Pro Skater 2 - Best Price
Best price on Tony Hawk Pro Skater 2 and over
a million other products in 8,000 categories!
eFront shopping.
arcadeathome.efront.com (Cost to advertiser:
$0.01)
sam 31/12/20 2:56 pm heh nice
sam 31/12/20 2:57 pm srunner will loe that
iBLAMEj00 31/12/20 2:57 pm It's clearly an add to buy the game.
sam 31/12/20 2:57 pm lets put 10k products in there
iBLAMEj00 31/12/20 2:57 pm I know =)
sam 31/12/20 2:57 pm baby products to flowers to everything:)
iBLAMEj00 31/12/20 2:57 pm Also, look at that search and look at all the
eFront sites I'm competing with!
iBLAMEj00 31/12/20 2:58 pm www.psxextreme.com
www.videogamesavings.com
sam 31/12/20 2:58 pm i know hehe
iBLAMEj00 31/12/20 2:58 pm I was #3 a few days ago on that search.
iBLAMEj00 31/12/20 3:00 pm I've got maybe 60 other search keywords that
I'm waiting for GoTo on. Each has the same
type of description. I can't see how
storerunner would be pissed, it's clearly an
ad and goes directly to the product (but don't
click or you will be paying for it yourself)
=)
sam 31/12/20 3:00 pm ya it looks good
sam 31/12/20 3:00 pm so u just need moreproducts right?
sam 31/12/20 3:01 pm we get 180 products a day
sam 31/12/20 3:01 pm how about writing an automated scripts totake
the xml file
sam 31/12/20 3:01 pm everyday
iBLAMEj00 31/12/20 3:01 pm Yea, I get that product list also.
sam 31/12/20 3:01 pm and throw themin goto?
iBLAMEj00 31/12/20 3:01 pm Can be done easily.
sam 31/12/20 3:02 pm some of the products have too big of
descriptions though huh?
iBLAMEj00 31/12/20 3:02 pm Yea, there's a max description length, but we
could figure out a way.
sam 31/12/20 3:03 pm i was thinking about more of ppl wont be
typing the description:)
sam 31/12/20 3:03 pm but i guess if u take the keywords from each
product
sam 31/12/20 3:03 pm and have the product name be the link display
follwoed by '-- check prices'
sam 31/12/20 3:03 pm that would work
iBLAMEj00 31/12/20 3:03 pm Right, there are other tricks also.
iBLAMEj00 31/12/20 3:04 pm http://inventory.go2.com/inventory/Search_Sugg
stion.jhtml
iBLAMEj00 31/12/20 3:04 pm Like this will tell you how popular a set of
keywords are.
iBLAMEj00 31/12/20 3:04 pm So a script could be written that would try
different combinations of keywords to find
those that are popular, then submit them.
sam 31/12/20 3:04 pm wow
sam 31/12/20 3:05 pm thats amazing:)
iBLAMEj00 31/12/20 3:05 pm Yea, and evil. I love it =)
sam 31/12/20 3:05 pm find the top ones with 1 or 2 cents
sam 31/12/20 3:05 pm :)
sam 31/12/20 3:05 pm and auto-submit:)
iBLAMEj00 31/12/20 3:05 pm Like I searched for tony hawk, then submitted
the top ones.
sam 31/12/20 3:05 pm would goto.com get mad that aah.efront.com
keeps submitting
sam 31/12/20 3:05 pm goto.com would have to employ 100 ppl just to
verify our stuff:)
iBLAMEj00 31/12/20 3:05 pm I don't think so.
iBLAMEj00 31/12/20 3:06 pm I've got a few hundred keywords for A@H and I
know some sites that have thousands.
sam 31/12/20 3:06 pm we'll have millions :)
iBLAMEj00 31/12/20 3:06 pm Heh
iBLAMEj00 31/12/20 3:07 pm I've got stats on what percentage of people
click on the #1-#10 search result also.
sam 31/12/20 3:07 pm really.. neat
iBLAMEj00 31/12/20 3:08 pm #1 is 12%, #2 is 7%, #3 is 5%, #4-#7 is 4%...
iBLAMEj00 31/12/20 3:08 pm So, if you can go from #4 to #1, you will get
3X the number of clicks.
sam 31/12/20 3:09 pm neat
iBLAMEj00 31/12/20 3:09 pm Also, #4-#7 makes little difference so there's
no point in paying more.
sam 31/12/20 3:10 pm ya.. i gotta concentae tomorrow on our sites
and get more hits.. last tie i concentedted..
on megagames.. got 8k..
iBLAMEj00 31/12/20 3:11 pm Yea, just a few sites are doing all the
clicks.
iBLAMEj00 31/12/20 3:11 pm I think A@H and megagames is just about maxed
out what they can do.
iBLAMEj00 31/12/20 3:12 pm Hey, that's a good idea, sec...
sam 31/12/20 3:12 pm yeah.. im just going to log into sites myself
and do shit 2morrow .. i dunno why these ppl
dont do anything
sam 31/12/20 3:12 pm whats that
sam 31/12/20 3:14 pm damn.. i keep waking up having fallen sleepp..
iBLAMEj00 31/12/20 3:14 pm Okay, I looked that the number of viewers that
I and megagames have and then compared that to
the number of storerunner clicks.
iBLAMEj00 31/12/20 3:14 pm megagames is doing a 3.25% click-thru rate.
iBLAMEj00 31/12/20 3:14 pm I'm doing a 3.75% click-thru rate.
iBLAMEj00 31/12/20 3:15 pm So each site has the potential of lets say 3%.
iBLAMEj00 31/12/20 3:16 pm 1,859,954 viewers yesterday @ 3% = 55.8k/day.
iBLAMEj00 31/12/20 3:17 pm The higest return will be with the sites with
the higest number of viewers.
iBLAMEj00 31/12/20 3:18 pm astalavista.com should be your next target.
iBLAMEj00 31/12/20 3:19 pm But, you're sleeping now... =)
sam 01/01/20 12:41 am Johan (ICQ#1787450) Wrote:
But gaming sites are easier. They can link to
different games.
Only thing I thought of from mp3 sites are mp3
players and they are rather expensive so many
people don't click. Do you have some Ideas on
what I should link to? If someone sold mp3
songs I could send a lot. Hmm linking to CDs
could be an Idea though.
[any ideas for him?]
iBLAMEj00 01/01/20 1:39 am Shit loads =)
iBLAMEj00 01/01/20 1:40 am I only have 2 games that are for sale on my
site yet I'm getting 1700+clicks a day.
iBLAMEj00 01/01/20 1:42 am MP3 sites are easy.
iBLAMEj00 01/01/20 1:52 am Create a database of the most popular CDs and
have the system randomly say "Get: CD name" in
a good location (where people will see it).
iBLAMEj00 01/01/20 1:52 am Or, when they do a search, it will show a
storerunner link where they can buy the CD.
sam 01/01/20 2:06 am heh i been playing red alert2
iBLAMEj00 01/01/20 2:07 am Heh
sam 01/01/20 2:07 am imon mission 5.. defended the eiffeltower:)
sam 01/01/20 2:07 am do u play new games.. or just old ones :)
iBLAMEj00 01/01/20 2:07 am Who cares about that building?
iBLAMEj00 01/01/20 2:07 am It would be too much fun to watch it get
destroyed.
sam 01/01/20 2:07 am actually i was the soviets.. so i capturd it
sam 01/01/20 2:08 am then defend)
iBLAMEj00 01/01/20 2:08 am Heh
iBLAMEj00 01/01/20 2:08 am Would make a nice tower to launch things from
=)
iBLAMEj00 01/01/20 2:08 am I really don't play many new games.
sam 01/01/20 2:08 am my fav game is still river raid :) do u have
that on mame
iBLAMEj00 01/01/20 2:08 am Jon's away...
sam 01/01/20 2:09 am jonathan?
iBLAMEj00 01/01/20 2:09 am Yea, I think we are talking about the same
guy.
sam 01/01/20 2:09 am he's back
iBLAMEj00 01/01/20 2:09 am ICQ#585621
sam 01/01/20 2:10 am u mean unit 585621 :)
iBLAMEj00 01/01/20 2:10 am River Patrol, but not River Raid
sam 01/01/20 2:10 am mame should be easy w/ srunner too
iBLAMEj00 01/01/20 2:10 am Heh
sam 01/01/20 2:10 am i gotta figure out what server its on
iBLAMEj00 01/01/20 2:21 am Yo, why are we still showing the ad with my
face and other cross-promotion eFront ads?
iBLAMEj00 01/01/20 2:21 am Shouldn't we be serving all Storerunner ads
for unsold banners?
iBLAMEj00 01/01/20 2:22 am Or ValueClick or something?
sam 01/01/20 2:22 am well thats doubleclick defaults
sam 01/01/20 2:22 am dclk doesnt allow us to serve
sam 01/01/20 2:22 am paying ads
sam 01/01/20 2:22 am for defaults..
iBLAMEj00 01/01/20 2:22 am Huh?
sam 01/01/20 2:22 am they're dorks
sam 01/01/20 2:22 am we fought w/ them alot
sam 01/01/20 2:22 am so.. the only thing we can do is reduce it
sam 01/01/20 2:22 am in realmedia (to dclk)
sam 01/01/20 2:22 am and put other stuff there
iBLAMEj00 01/01/20 2:22 am Yea
sam 01/01/20 2:23 am or we should be able to put srunner actually
iBLAMEj00 01/01/20 2:23 am Yea
sam 01/01/20 2:23 am cuz thats efront stuff
sam 01/01/20 2:23 am we need to get the new banners over to dclk
iBLAMEj00 01/01/20 2:23 am If the ads are sold out, we should be able to
serve storerunner ads or at least some kind of
cross-promotion.
sam 01/01/20 2:24 am yeah.. all those old efront banners need to go
iBLAMEj00 01/01/20 2:24 am I figured they just redirected the ad if it
was sold out.
sam 01/01/20 2:24 am no.. they actually want the gif.. ill get them
to put the new banner code for srunner that
jon is working on
sam 01/01/20 2:25 am its supposed to pick products dynamically and
create dynamic banners
sam 01/01/20 2:25 am i'd like it tohave the 'warning' on the
banner too
iBLAMEj00 01/01/20 2:25 am I thought every banner company allowed
oversold banners to be sent back.
sam 01/01/20 2:25 am no.. dclk is retard
iBLAMEj00 01/01/20 2:26 am Tell them flycast does it.
sam 01/01/20 2:26 am ya..been throughit..
iBLAMEj00 01/01/20 2:26 am If they can't sell 100% of stock, that's BS.
sam 01/01/20 2:26 am iknow..t hey dont care 'dont use us'.. toomuch
banner inv outthere.. but if we canredirect
back to us for srunner that might work
sam 01/01/20 2:27 am they only want house banners
iBLAMEj00 01/01/20 2:28 am And we only want paid ads.
iBLAMEj00 01/01/20 2:31 am The GoTo/Storerunner thing is still at a 7.5x
return.
iBLAMEj00 01/01/20 2:32 am I think making just as much twice as fast
would be better (raising it to $0.02/click).
sam 01/01/20 2:32 am well i definitely got to get this thing locked
down w/ srunner wednesday.. then we can go all
out
sam 01/01/20 2:32 am yeah that might be good
iBLAMEj00 01/01/20 2:34 am The trick will be getting popular keywords in
the database.
iBLAMEj00 01/01/20 2:34 am Doing games, music, movies will be easy. Just
get the most popular ones. They all get many
searches.
sam 01/01/20 2:44 am James Reno (ICQ#12771216) Wrote:
$line =~ s//.&navbar;./gi;
know whats wrong ?
[any clue?]
iBLAMEj00 01/01/20 2:45 am I don't do ssi.
sam 01/01/20 6:15 am DigitalFury (ICQ#806006) Wrote:
small problem, the storerunner searches seem
to link to audio CD's on many of the ones i
clicked
for example
http://www.efront.com/affiliates/search.php?af
il=14&search=Warcraft+3
what's wrong?
iBLAMEj00 02/01/20 1:55 am It's the way storerunner does things. Maybe
if they had categories it would work better.
Like a CD, game, electronics, pc etc category.
sam 02/01/20 5:14 am yeah.. i told nate yesterday to put category=X
yesterday :) only solution ..
sam 03/01/20 1:04 pm what does ur nick mean hehe
sam 03/01/20 1:04 pm what bout the 13k
iBLAMEj00 03/01/20 1:05 pm Heh, I just wanted to get your attention =)
sam 03/01/20 1:05 pm just been super busy as u can imagine:)
iBLAMEj00 03/01/20 1:05 pm You mean iBLAMElev?
sam 03/01/20 1:05 pm oh it says i blamejoo
sam 03/01/20 1:05 pm like jew?
sam 03/01/20 1:05 pm or you?
iBLAMEj00 03/01/20 1:05 pm Heh, YOU, not jew.
iBLAMEj00 03/01/20 1:05 pm If you want to blame jew, you can though.
sam 03/01/20 1:05 pm heh it reads like joo.. jew:)
iBLAMEj00 03/01/20 1:05 pm Heh
sam 03/01/20 1:06 pm nah i have nothing against any1 :)
iBLAMEj00 03/01/20 1:06 pm Except those that don't pay :/
iBLAMEj00 03/01/20 1:06 pm You have a meeting with storerunner today?
sam 03/01/20 1:07 pm tomorrow
iBLAMEj00 03/01/20 1:09 pm How many more clicks do we have to serve
before we start getting paid from them?
sam 03/01/20 1:09 pm ill let u know tomorrow when we get back :)
iBLAMEj00 03/01/20 1:09 pm (didn't we get like $250k up-front?)
sam 03/01/20 1:09 pm yes we did
sam 03/01/20 1:09 pm im going to propose to them:
sam 03/01/20 1:11 pm * call the 250k a wash to what we served so
far.. we're probably going to also allocate 50
mil imps/month to them for the next 12 month
(all our defaults heh.. thats 600 mil imps)..
so call the 250k a wash
* pay us net term of 10 days. if there are
any issues w/ any clicks.. please let usknow
immediately.. any clicks we we arent notified
of with issues that are over 72 hours, you
have to pay us regardless.
* we want daily reporting for sure
iBLAMEj00 03/01/20 1:13 pm How many clicks have we served to date?
sam 03/01/20 1:13 pm i think 1.8 million maybe
sam 03/01/20 1:14 pm but they claim that half of them or something
came from unknown sources
sam 03/01/20 1:14 pm going to the same products over and over
iBLAMEj00 03/01/20 1:14 pm If they don't agree, I'll do 200k clicks
tomorrow. =)
sam 03/01/20 1:14 pm and they cant bill their merchants for it
sam 03/01/20 1:14 pm (remember Marc D.'s stuff?:)
iBLAMEj00 03/01/20 1:14 pm Heh
sam 03/01/20 1:14 pm i had nate already told them that
sam 03/01/20 1:14 pm we had a limitd set of data to work with and
we were proqactive and sent it out to our
webmasters
iBLAMEj00 03/01/20 1:15 pm Do they have anyone they are working with that
is as big as us?
iBLAMEj00 03/01/20 1:16 pm Damn, and I just added another ps2 link to my
page :/
iBLAMEj00 03/01/20 1:16 pm http://arcadeathome.efront.com/images/ps2.gif
sam 03/01/20 1:46 pm no they dont.. they really like us :)
sam 03/01/20 1:46 pm all i know is 100k clicks a day = efront
webmaster payment trust.. :)
iBLAMEj00 03/01/20 1:49 pm I'm doing what I can =)
sam 03/01/20 1:52 pm i know.. :)
sam 03/01/20 1:52 pm ive been manning the phones.. talking w/
excite right now
sam 03/01/20 1:52 pm trying to get a deal done :)
iBLAMEj00 03/01/20 1:53 pm What about the about payment?
sam 03/01/20 1:54 pm we're waiting for it.. should be any day
sam 03/01/20 1:54 pm i saw the statement.. looks like they're
trying to jip us
sam 03/01/20 1:54 pm should be 250k ..and it said 140k
sam 03/01/20 1:54 pm im notn going to say anything until we collect
the dec. revenue on january 31
iBLAMEj00 03/01/20 1:55 pm How's that?
sam 03/01/20 1:55 pm then for november and december, i can have our
attorneys send them a letter on the shortfall
sam 03/01/20 1:55 pm well, we have 2 contracts with them.. and they
like to change biz terms in midstreams
sam 03/01/20 1:55 pm even though the contracts say they have to
give us a 30 day notice
sam 03/01/20 1:55 pm they did that to us before.. you dont know
sam 03/01/20 1:55 pm we sent them a letter from our lawyer
sam 03/01/20 1:56 pm claiming they are using our mediametrix
numbers to inflate their stock pirces and they
havent paid us etc
sam 03/01/20 1:56 pm hehe
sam 03/01/20 1:56 pm they called in 10 seconds and worked out a
settlement!!
sam 03/01/20 1:56 pm (it was a total of 700k back in august)
sam 03/01/20 1:57 pm i dont want to complain aobut the 100k
shortfall right now.. cuz i dont want them to
drag and delay our dec. payment either
sam 03/01/20 1:57 pm after we get it, then we'll complain.. about's
easier..t hey're a public company and had
negative publiclty :)
iBLAMEj00 03/01/20 1:57 pm Got it.
sam 03/01/20 1:57 pm bad industry man
sam 03/01/20 1:57 pm we're in the wrong business heh
iBLAMEj00 03/01/20 1:57 pm Heh
sam 03/01/20 1:57 pm so many startpath types we ran into
iBLAMEj00 03/01/20 1:58 pm $140k won't go far. Anyone else owe us money
that's due in the short-term?
sam 03/01/20 1:59 pm yeah..
i actually sent an email out to efront mgrs..
sam 03/01/20 1:59 pm we're owed 500k thats coming in the next 10
days
sam 03/01/20 1:59 pm of course, that all goes back out very quick
sam 03/01/20 2:00 pm 200k speedyclick (thursd)
140k about
60k doubleclick
50k mplayer
20k blink
20k smartage
sam 03/01/20 2:01 pm going out:
75k last payroll.. 75k jan15 payroll
200k webmasters
30k rent
60k last building deposit
20k s4r
50k benefits/emp. expenses/phone
system,bills/apts
iBLAMEj00 03/01/20 2:03 pm 30k in rent? You need to move your offices to
Ohio =)
sam 03/01/20 2:03 pm ya i know.. and we actually negotiated too
iBLAMEj00 03/01/20 2:04 pm How many square feet do you have?
sam 03/01/20 2:04 pm 9000 i think
iBLAMEj00 03/01/20 2:04 pm That's a shit-load
sam 03/01/20 2:05 pm its actually 27k but wahtever
iBLAMEj00 03/01/20 2:05 pm What's s4r?
sam 03/01/20 2:05 pm space4rrent
sam 03/01/20 2:05 pm new managed services
sam 03/01/20 2:05 pm getting out of cais this weekend (hopefully)
sam 03/01/20 2:06 pm 20k is the upfront deposit
sam 03/01/20 2:06 pm then its 75k/month
iBLAMEj00 03/01/20 2:07 pm How many employees work there? You can fit 25
in a 5,000 sq ft office easily.
sam 03/01/20 2:07 pm we actually have 35 now
iBLAMEj00 03/01/20 2:07 pm 7'x9' cells are only 63 sq ft.
sam 03/01/20 2:07 pm the only problem is that
sam 03/01/20 2:08 pm there is conf rooms, offices, etc. ANE
sam 03/01/20 2:08 pm all leases are 5 years meaning that
sam 03/01/20 2:08 pm its hard to move if you think you're going to
expand
sam 03/01/20 2:08 pm so we had to get something that was flexible
iBLAMEj00 03/01/20 2:08 pm Yea, you just get an office that can be
expanded.
sam 03/01/20 2:08 pm which we have now :)
iBLAMEj00 03/01/20 2:08 pm Like one with open space next to where you
are.
sam 03/01/20 2:08 pm plus the apts are across the street :)
iBLAMEj00 03/01/20 2:08 pm Heh
iBLAMEj00 03/01/20 2:09 pm So, do you know now how much employees suck?
sam 03/01/20 2:09 pm yeah
sam 03/01/20 2:09 pm u mean payroll?
iBLAMEj00 03/01/20 2:09 pm Heh, that's what I always say, employees suck.
sam 03/01/20 2:09 pm its actually 200k/month..however
sam 03/01/20 2:10 pm we're working on reduced payroll right now..
partial for mgmt..
iBLAMEj00 03/01/20 2:10 pm payroll, benefits, office space, etc.
sam 03/01/20 2:10 pm hey my w-2 will be easy for 2000
sam 03/01/20 2:10 pm $0
sam 03/01/20 2:10 pm no salary .. im broke heh
iBLAMEj00 03/01/20 2:10 pm Heh
sam 03/01/20 2:10 pm just getting my apt paid for
sam 03/01/20 2:10 pm oh well ..gotta do what we gotta do
iBLAMEj00 03/01/20 2:11 pm Well, if we pull this off, you won't be
hurting =)
sam 03/01/20 2:11 pm yeh..
we just gotta increase our revenues now
i like greg.. he's doing a great job
iBLAMEj00 03/01/20 2:11 pm G3?
sam 03/01/20 2:11 pm he's been promoted to director of operations
now
sam 03/01/20 2:11 pm yeah.. setting up infrastructure and all that
sam 03/01/20 2:11 pm and process
iBLAMEj00 03/01/20 2:11 pm Yea, I think he loves me, like REALLY loves
me.
sam 03/01/20 2:12 pm i know
sam 03/01/20 2:12 pm he was talking bout u today :)
sam 03/01/20 2:12 pm like 'tim and i are on the same page'
iBLAMEj00 03/01/20 2:12 pm Heh
sam 03/01/20 2:12 pm i said he better be
sam 03/01/20 2:12 pm heh j/k
iBLAMEj00 03/01/20 2:12 pm heh
sam 03/01/20 2:12 pm basically i told nate yesterday that..
iBLAMEj00 03/01/20 2:12 pm I'm going to give him some ideas for
storerunner.
sam 03/01/20 2:12 pm (ill fwd u a msg i sent to nate)
sam 03/01/20 2:13 pm hey.. did the freevote guy ever respond
iBLAMEj00 03/01/20 2:13 pm For my money, Nate's the best guy you've got
=)
sam 03/01/20 2:13 pm Nate (ICQ#3530128) Wrote:
not yet, but i didnt send out that other email
cause g3 said he was handling it.
if not itll be part of the 25 attack kevin
will begin tomorrow
sam 03/01/20 2:13 pm ok.. cuz if things dont move in the next
couple of days, i want to assign the entire
srunner project to tim .. give him root
passwd, l/p, access and tell him to go for
it.. and do it manually himself working w/ g3
sam 03/01/20 2:14 pm yeah nate is good
sam 03/01/20 2:14 pm i got rid of couple ppl last week
sam 03/01/20 2:14 pm to streamline stuff
iBLAMEj00 03/01/20 2:14 pm Good for you.
sam 03/01/20 2:14 pm we're keeping out top talent
iBLAMEj00 03/01/20 2:14 pm Sucks, but it's a rough world out there.
sam 03/01/20 2:14 pm yeah
sam 03/01/20 2:14 pm gotta streamline and regroup and increase our
cushion
sam 03/01/20 2:15 pm growth was important at one point..but because
its shakey out there
sam 03/01/20 2:15 pm my 60 day goal is to get 1.2 mil a month in
revenues and keep expenses to 700k/month.. and
throw 500k a month in the bank and build up a
cushion
iBLAMEj00 03/01/20 2:15 pm Good idea.
sam 03/01/20 2:15 pm its rough out there right now :)
sam 03/01/20 2:16 pm storerunner will help TONS
iBLAMEj00 03/01/20 2:16 pm And you've gotta get all our sites on our
servers with us in control of their domains.
sam 03/01/20 2:16 pm dan has the email marketing launching soon
iBLAMEj00 03/01/20 2:16 pm Too many are on their own server.
sam 03/01/20 2:16 pm yes i know!!
sam 03/01/20 2:16 pm before we do any more acqs
sam 03/01/20 2:16 pm we're going to do that
iBLAMEj00 03/01/20 2:16 pm Yup
sam 03/01/20 2:16 pm or we kick the sites out
iBLAMEj00 03/01/20 2:16 pm I think some are outright cheating.
sam 03/01/20 2:16 pm regroup, restructures, streamline, put all our
rev products on it, or get out
sam 03/01/20 2:16 pm like who
iBLAMEj00 03/01/20 2:17 pm something isn't right with tukoo
sam 03/01/20 2:17 pm still puzzled bout him huh
iBLAMEj00 03/01/20 2:17 pm And we found some asian sites that didn't even
have efront ads!
sam 03/01/20 2:17 pm i bet you have dreams :)
sam 03/01/20 2:17 pm which one? so i can hold payments, etc.
iBLAMEj00 03/01/20 2:17 pm If he's good, it's impossible to catch him
unless he's on our server.
sam 03/01/20 2:17 pm yeah thats true
iBLAMEj00 03/01/20 2:18 pm 24suns?
sam 03/01/20 2:18 pm they want to be on our server too.. just
matter of resource.. so hopefully soon
sam 03/01/20 2:18 pm oh 24suns was acquired recently
sam 03/01/20 2:18 pm we didnt sign the contract yet
iBLAMEj00 03/01/20 2:18 pm Oh
sam 03/01/20 2:18 pm because we want to get things together first
sam 03/01/20 2:18 pm he signed it on his end though
sam 03/01/20 2:18 pm we're holding off
sam 03/01/20 2:18 pm so im glad :)
iBLAMEj00 03/01/20 2:18 pm How are they getting numbers in our system
then?
sam 03/01/20 2:18 pm we dont need the inventory right now
sam 03/01/20 2:19 pm they are? they shouldnt be.. ooohhh ur right i
rembmer now
sam 03/01/20 2:19 pm weird
sam 03/01/20 2:19 pm definitely gotta look at that.. im sure ill
find out
iBLAMEj00 03/01/20 2:19 pm We should go through the sites one by one and
see if we really want them.
iBLAMEj00 03/01/20 2:19 pm Not that we want to cut a bunch of sites.
iBLAMEj00 03/01/20 2:20 pm But some need to be at least looked at.
iBLAMEj00 03/01/20 2:20 pm I think Nate found a asian site today that had
like a 20 second refresh.
iBLAMEj00 03/01/20 2:21 pm We can't be paying money out for that kind of
shit.
sam 03/01/20 2:21 pm i need to know!
sam 03/01/20 2:21 pm im asking g3 and everyone to msg me
sam 03/01/20 2:21 pm sned me emails
sam 03/01/20 2:22 pm iBLAMEj00 (ICQ#8906076) Wrote:
I think Nate found a asian site today that had
like a 20 second refresh.
[nate please let me know about thse kind of
things asap.. so i can hold payments]
iBLAMEj00 03/01/20 2:22 pm We should also change the reports over to use
the web guide and pay based on that.
sam 03/01/20 2:22 pm i know.. i asked matt when that will be done.
he said thursday..
iBLAMEj00 03/01/20 2:23 pm Damn, I better add more web guides =)
iBLAMEj00 03/01/20 2:24 pm I stopped using akamai yesterday.
sam 03/01/20 2:24 pm did u notice any perf. problems
iBLAMEj00 03/01/20 2:25 pm No
iBLAMEj00 03/01/20 2:25 pm http://adtraq.com/bw/cais/cais3.netwhirl.com.h
ml
iBLAMEj00 03/01/20 2:25 pm bandwidth didn't go up either.
iBLAMEj00 03/01/20 2:26 pm I think if we installed matt's compression
code on the servers, we wouldn't need akamai.
iBLAMEj00 03/01/20 2:27 pm I guess except for servers that are
overloaded.
iBLAMEj00 03/01/20 2:30 pm I never liked akamai anyway.
iBLAMEj00 03/01/20 2:30 pm All I needed to hear is that we were behind on
their payment for me to enjoy deleting them
from my site =)
sam 03/01/20 2:31 pm hehe
iBLAMEj00 03/01/20 2:31 pm We should have a lot of free days from them
anyway beacuse of all the times it's down.
sam 03/01/20 2:32 pm yeah.. maybe we can use that to dispute their
bill :)
iBLAMEj00 03/01/20 2:32 pm I should have kept a log.
sam 03/01/20 2:33 pm eXiLe: (10:32 PM) well..I haven't been able to
find them down, neither can keynote or
storerunners thing..cognescant..but there's
too much net to cover..
iBLAMEj00 03/01/20 2:33 pm But I would catch it being down at least 5
times a month, probably more.
iBLAMEj00 03/01/20 2:33 pm Their entire network doesn't go down, just
regionally.
iBLAMEj00 03/01/20 2:34 pm I get e-mails from people sometimes that say
that I don't have any images on my site.
iBLAMEj00 03/01/20 2:34 pm They probably have multiple redundancy in the
LA area.
iBLAMEj00 03/01/20 2:35 pm They probably have one server for all of Ohio
and when it goes down, it doesn't get
rerouted.
iBLAMEj00 03/01/20 2:35 pm Actually, akamai is down more than CAIS.
iBLAMEj00 03/01/20 2:36 pm Order of suckage...
iBLAMEj00 03/01/20 2:36 pm 1) akamai
iBLAMEj00 03/01/20 2:36 pm 2) CAIS
iBLAMEj00 03/01/20 2:36 pm 3) banner payment defaults
sam 03/01/20 2:37 pm i know:(
iBLAMEj00 03/01/20 2:37 pm Okay, maybe #3 should be first =)
sam 03/01/20 2:37 pm im working on excite
sam 03/01/20 2:37 pm to take 50 mil imps a quarter from us @ 4.5
cpm
sam 03/01/20 2:37 pm working on Work.com as well
sam 03/01/20 2:37 pm to take 10 mil imps @ 10cpm
iBLAMEj00 03/01/20 2:37 pm I like $10/cpm =)
sam 03/01/20 2:37 pm yeah.. we'll see how it goes:)
iBLAMEj00 03/01/20 2:38 pm Work.com is a joint venture of Dow Jones and
Excite@Home
sam 03/01/20 2:39 pm i know
sam 03/01/20 2:39 pm we have acarreer deal signed /w them already
sam 03/01/20 2:39 pm basically we need to get srunner and couple
other things going and we'll readch the 1.2
mil mark i think..t hey we can concentrate on
long-term self-sustainable stuff by hiring 5
year sales veterans (10 of them) and having
them do big ad sales deals
sam 03/01/20 2:40 pm egg before the chicken stuff:)
sam 03/01/20 2:40 pm so a little more bootstrapping.. then we pull
our pants up
sam 03/01/20 2:40 pm heh
iBLAMEj00 03/01/20 2:40 pm Has @Home's stock hit $0 yet?
sam 03/01/20 2:41 pm i know huh
iBLAMEj00 03/01/20 2:41 pm I'd make monthly deals with them.
iBLAMEj00 03/01/20 2:41 pm And payment like net 15 days.
sam 03/01/20 2:42 pm who.. storerunner?
iBLAMEj00 03/01/20 2:42 pm Hell, up-front payments.
iBLAMEj00 03/01/20 2:42 pm excite.
sam 03/01/20 2:42 pm i know..trust me, we usually do that
sam 03/01/20 2:42 pm we're going to be career.exccite.com as well
sam 03/01/20 2:42 pm its a complex deal.. and we inherited the
negotiations
sam 03/01/20 2:42 pm through worklife
sam 03/01/20 2:43 pm i looked at the edeal.. and i was like.. ok
excite, u also gotta take 50 mil imps
sam 03/01/20 2:43 pm heh
sam 03/01/20 2:43 pm they were pissed..
"huh?where's that coming from.. we want
careerrs"
iBLAMEj00 03/01/20 2:43 pm Well, as long as we get some $5-$10/CPM deals
=)
sam 03/01/20 2:43 pm so i been fighting w/ them
sam 03/01/20 2:43 pm and got that in the table now
sam 03/01/20 2:43 pm and we'll see how it goes
sam 03/01/20 2:44 pm i need to email them something tonight in fact
iBLAMEj00 03/01/20 2:44 pm Tell them if they close the deal by Friday
you'll throw in a 2 liter of Pepsi.
sam 03/01/20 2:45 pm heh yeah :)
remembert that cash-flow problem we had in the
summer..w ell we did resolve that by demanding
it from about legally
iBLAMEj00 03/01/20 2:45 pm Or maybe our Las Vegas vacation =)
sam 03/01/20 2:46 pm but same problems now .. more advertisers
sam 03/01/20 2:46 pm the market really sucks.. so we gotta get out
of this one now heh
sam 03/01/20 2:46 pm yeah .. direct markeing is huge huge
sam 03/01/20 2:46 pm our biggest $$ is there
sam 03/01/20 2:47 pm you will be SHOCKED when i tell u and explain
the whole process to you :)
iBLAMEj00 03/01/20 2:47 pm There are still more companies that we can run
out of business, don't give up yet! =)
sam 03/01/20 2:47 pm heh i know :)
sam 03/01/20 2:47 pm including ourselves :p
iBLAMEj00 03/01/20 2:47 pm I heard that venture capitalists are still
spending money on internet sites.
iBLAMEj00 03/01/20 2:48 pm Just not as much (about 1/4th)
sam 03/01/20 2:48 pm yeah.. we have an investment bank finishing up
our booklet
sam 03/01/20 2:48 pm and strting to pitch next week
sam 03/01/20 2:48 pm the thing is, we have excite and infospace
interested in some sort of investment
sam 03/01/20 2:48 pm we'll see how it goes
iBLAMEj00 03/01/20 2:49 pm Considering that eFront has an "old world"
business model, you would think it would be be
interesting to some in this market.
sam 03/01/20 2:49 pm yeah thats what itold our investment bankers
we're B2B
build for the bear market :)
iBLAMEj00 03/01/20 2:49 pm But excite and infospace is part of the "new
world" business model that doesn't work.
sam 03/01/20 2:49 pm we need some cushion though. and we're set
iBLAMEj00 03/01/20 2:51 pm Greenspan said 2 years ago that most internet
companies would fail.
sam 03/01/20 2:51 pm yeah.. i think we have along ways to go
sam 03/01/20 2:51 pm at least 6 months more of shakeouts
sam 03/01/20 2:51 pm so we gotta hang tough :)
iBLAMEj00 03/01/20 2:52 pm Heh, I didn't mean eFront =)
iBLAMEj00 03/01/20 2:52 pm Our problems are based on the failing
companies, not our own doing directly.
sam 03/01/20 2:53 pm yeah.. even then, this time i'd like to build
a cushion
yeah i know.. and vdiversify..we have alot of
big clients.. reason for that is i do most of
the big deals..and i try to get a few
companies to take as much down their throat
heh
iBLAMEj00 03/01/20 2:53 pm What rate can we get a loan at B2B?
iBLAMEj00 03/01/20 3:30 pm I sent you an e-mail as to how my accountant
needs to see my contract to be able to
classify it as a long term capital gain. It's
no difference in payment, just wording
changes.
sam 03/01/20 3:30 pm sure.. no problem
sam 03/01/20 3:30 pm anything for u")_
iBLAMEj00 03/01/20 3:30 pm Heh
sam 03/01/20 3:31 pm i hate uncle sam too :)
iBLAMEj00 03/01/20 3:31 pm Yea, and my accountant is a bitch.
iBLAMEj00 03/01/20 3:31 pm She won't do anything unless everything is
perfect.
iBLAMEj00 03/01/20 3:32 pm Basically, it's a payment schedule with
interest.
sam 03/01/20 3:32 pm yeah
sam 03/01/20 3:32 pm i hear you
iBLAMEj00 03/01/20 3:32 pm Because you are buying an asset over 36
months, you have to pay 8% interest at least.
sam 03/01/20 3:32 pm tell her that the 13k or whatever is grossed
up w/ intereste:)
sam 03/01/20 3:32 pm but yeah i know
sam 03/01/20 3:32 pm so no prob :)
iBLAMEj00 03/01/20 3:33 pm So, I figured it out based on an interest
schedule.
sam 03/01/20 3:33 pm sure
iBLAMEj00 03/01/20 3:34 pm How honest should we be about the cash
shortage with our webmasters?
iBLAMEj00 03/01/20 3:35 pm 80% honest?
sam 03/01/20 3:49 pm depends on a case by case basis.. really
depends on who the webmaster is.. i had a talk
w/ g3 about that this afternoon
sam 03/01/20 3:49 pm but mostly.. im telling ppl aobut our crunch..
and banner market is dead
sam 03/01/20 3:49 pm and using this to get them to do the
storerunner and all our other shit
iBLAMEj00 03/01/20 3:49 pm k, that's what I plan to do.
sam 03/01/20 3:49 pm and say its going to be aough for the next 2-3
months until we regroup
sam 03/01/20 3:50 pm so they have to work with us.. in order for us
to continue our progress and our success
iBLAMEj00 03/01/20 3:57 pm "Well I hate to say that right now that'ws not
my problem, I just need to know when I'm
getting my check."
iBLAMEj00 03/01/20 3:57 pm Heh, people with limited minds =)
sam 03/01/20 3:57 pm what did he respond to ' thats not my problem
'
sam 03/01/20 3:57 pm :)
sam 03/01/20 3:58 pm if its storerunner, id say
iBLAMEj00 03/01/20 3:58 pm Heh, he went off-line already =)
sam 03/01/20 3:59 pm "well i hate to say that right now, your check
is not our problem..basically, som e of our
webmasters are cheating, are lazy, and arent
updating their content, or are not providing
the srevice per their contract.. so we're
holding payments until they comply "
sam 03/01/20 3:59 pm which webmaster was that
sam 03/01/20 3:59 pm and also, fyi, because its one contract,
iBLAMEj00 03/01/20 3:59 pm Travis, Game Fusion.
sam 03/01/20 3:59 pm oh, forget him, we should kick him out.. he's
a whiner and has crappy little pageviews as
well
iBLAMEj00 03/01/20 3:59 pm heh
sam 03/01/20 3:59 pm if they're violating any part of the
agreement,
sam 03/01/20 4:00 pm they violate the entire agreement
sam 03/01/20 4:00 pm and if they're in breach
sam 03/01/20 4:00 pm then they're in breach :)
iBLAMEj00 03/01/20 4:00 pm feel the love =)
sam 03/01/20 4:00 pm and if they dont do what we ask
sam 03/01/20 4:00 pm then techncially the're not performing the
'service'
sam 03/01/20 4:00 pm so we got them :)
sam 03/01/20 4:00 pm of course, this is for legal positioning.. not
like we'd ever do anything to them
iBLAMEj00 03/01/20 4:00 pm The little prick went off-line.
sam 03/01/20 4:00 pm yeah screw hi
sam 03/01/20 4:01 pm basically say that i specifcally made this
topline policy change
sam 03/01/20 4:01 pm if u like
sam 03/01/20 4:01 pm to get everyone on board
sam 03/01/20 4:01 pm and either he's in or out
sam 03/01/20 4:01 pm he's gotta decide what it is
iBLAMEj00 03/01/20 4:01 pm Well, he's off-line so I can't even tell him
to fuck off now =)
sam 03/01/20 4:01 pm i'd still send him the msg
sam 03/01/20 4:02 pm he's probably listening on invisible :)
iBLAMEj00 03/01/20 4:02 pm It's not going through.
sam 03/01/20 4:02 pm besides, his site isnt even worth screwing
with
sam 03/01/20 4:02 pm its a rinky dink small site
sam 03/01/20 4:02 pm he's best put on ignore :)
sam 03/01/20 4:02 pm (heh im bad)
sam 03/01/20 4:02 pm but man..
iBLAMEj00 03/01/20 4:03 pm Oh, he's back...
sam 03/01/20 4:03 pm also, he's a troublemaker
sam 03/01/20 4:03 pm he talks to moviewatcher guy and a few other
gaming webmaster
sam 03/01/20 4:03 pm so better to avoid confrontation with him
sam 03/01/20 4:04 pm i did overhear G3 yellling at him last week
sam 03/01/20 4:04 pm "Hey I heard what happened between you and G3
.. actually the whole office was listening to
him yelling at you. Do you really want him to
yell at you again?"
sam 03/01/20 4:04 pm send that plz :)
iBLAMEj00 03/01/20 4:05 pm Travis - Game Fusion: What I don't see is the
part in my contract where storerunner is
connected to my paycheck.
iBLAMEj00: Well, maintaning your site is part
of your contract I'm sure.
sam 03/01/20 4:06 pm servicing your site
sam 03/01/20 4:06 pm basically tell him that we're cutting our
deadweight.. if he wants to leave, let us know
sam 03/01/20 4:06 pm and we'll work something out
sam 03/01/20 4:07 pm tell him there are 100000 gaming sites out
there waiting to join efront
iBLAMEj00 03/01/20 4:08 pm www.gamefusion.com 606
sam 03/01/20 4:08 pm we can put him at the back of the line and get
someone else
iBLAMEj00 03/01/20 4:08 pm 606 uniques a day!!!???
sam 03/01/20 4:08 pm i know
sam 03/01/20 4:08 pm heheh
sam 03/01/20 4:08 pm waste of time screwing w/ him
sam 03/01/20 4:08 pm heh
sam 03/01/20 4:08 pm jonathan roy's first acquisition though :
sam 03/01/20 4:08 pm :/
iBLAMEj00 03/01/20 4:12 pm I just told him that it's time for him to
decide, shape up or ship out =)
sam 03/01/20 4:12 pm i bet u're enjoying this :)
iBLAMEj00 03/01/20 4:12 pm Well, for 606 uniques who cares.
sam 03/01/20 4:12 pm yep.. waste of our mutual breaths's
eventalkingabout him
iBLAMEj00 03/01/20 4:12 pm Heh, "Travis - Game Fusion: What you call
cooperation I call slavery..."
sam 03/01/20 4:13 pm heh
iBLAMEj00 03/01/20 4:13 pm I'm going to let him know that we own his
little site, so he is our slave.
sam 03/01/20 4:14 pm tell him:
"Let's resolve this. Clearly you arent
interestd in working with us any longer. The
market has substantially changed and you're
still stuck back a year ago. I will let our
operations team now this and move to terminate
this relationship so we can go our separate
ways in a graceful manner."
iBLAMEj00 03/01/20 4:14 pm Just not in so many words =)
sam 03/01/20 4:14 pm or tell him he's out little bitch ?
iBLAMEj00 03/01/20 4:20 pm Travis - Game Fusion: Insulting my inteligence
is not the proper way to conduct a
conversation.
iBLAMEj00 03/01/20 4:20 pm iBLAMEj00: Intelligence is spelled like this
iBLAMEj00 03/01/20 4:20 pm I couldn't help myself.
iBLAMEj00 03/01/20 4:21 pm All I did was point out that the banner market
has changed and that he's stuck back a year
ago when banner ads worked.
iBLAMEj00 03/01/20 4:21 pm He confuses inteligence (or intelligence) with
ignorance.
sam 03/01/20 4:22 pm heh.. lets just kick him out.. one less
headache
iBLAMEj00 03/01/20 4:27 pm What can we be paying him for only 800
pageviews a day?
iBLAMEj00 03/01/20 4:27 pm Is he waiting for his $25 check?
sam 03/01/20 4:34 pm jej
sam 03/01/20 4:34 pm we can pay him like in a day or so
sam 03/01/20 4:34 pm 2morrow even
sam 03/01/20 4:34 pm heh :)
iBLAMEj00 03/01/20 4:35 pm I was just going to buy him out of his
contract myself.
iBLAMEj00 03/01/20 4:35 pm Send him a Dreamcast or something and call it
even =)
sam 03/01/20 4:36 pm lol :)
sam 03/01/20 4:36 pm tell him we'll give him some snappl
sam 03/01/20 4:36 pm or pepsi by friday to close the deal
iBLAMEj00 03/01/20 4:37 pm Heh
sam 03/01/20 4:37 pm thats someone u can actually close it w/ ur
pepsi :)
iBLAMEj00 03/01/20 4:37 pm Heh, I know.
sam 03/01/20 4:37 pm btw, check out my response to babynames
iBLAMEj00 03/01/20 4:37 pm email?
sam 03/01/20 4:38 pm my strategy:
prep them about the tough market
lay the foundation
get them to do stuff
then blame them for us not being able to pay
them
:)
sam 03/01/20 4:38 pm yeah i bcc'd you on it
sam 03/01/20 4:38 pm we could send tons of baby clicks w/ her stuff
iBLAMEj00 03/01/20 4:38 pm No shit!
iBLAMEj00 03/01/20 4:38 pm That's got HUGE potential.
iBLAMEj00 03/01/20 4:39 pm I'll have my wife run her site and add the
links =)
sam 03/01/20 4:39 pm hehe :)
sam 03/01/20 4:39 pm double up :)
iBLAMEj00 03/01/20 4:41 pm babynames.com is cool, we want that site.
sam 03/01/20 4:41 pm we own it already :)
sam 03/01/20 4:41 pm yeah i know
iBLAMEj00 03/01/20 4:41 pm I know.
iBLAMEj00 03/01/20 4:41 pm we want to keep it I mean.
sam 03/01/20 4:42 pm yeah.. lets seee what she says
iBLAMEj00 03/01/20 5:11 pm Heh Travis must have a good thing with eFront
because he really doesn't want to leave =)
sam 03/01/20 5:11 pm yeah i think he gets like 3-4 cpm
sam 03/01/20 5:11 pm roy's first deal :/
sam 03/01/20 5:12 pm but it was a small one
sam 03/01/20 5:12 pm like smallcheck..
sam 03/01/20 5:12 pm to get his feet wet heh
sam 03/01/20 11:28 pm i bcc'd you guys on an email i sent to one of
the webmasters..
tell me what u think.. if the general tone,
etc.works
iBLAMEj00 03/01/20 11:29 pm k
sam 03/01/20 11:38 pm linda is on .. do u know which site had the 20
second refresh (asian).. i want to tell her
about that.. she's very good to work with
iBLAMEj00 03/01/20 11:39 pm I think Nate knows.
sam 04/01/20 12:43 pm sam: (8:35 PM) btw, had a meeting w/
storerunner in person
roy7: (8:36 PM) Cool. They still pleased with
us?
are u there
iBLAMEj00 04/01/20 3:15 pm How did it go?
iBLAMEj00 04/01/20 11:17 pm Talk to me, how did Storerunner go?
With my 6 keyword test for Storerunner/GoTo,
it's averaging about $1.43/day. GoTo has a
25,000 keyword maximum (just started
yesterday) but even then, that could mean
$180,000/month if we did 25,000 keywords with
similar popularity to the test 6.
iBLAMEj00 04/01/20 11:18 pm That would be probably the top amount we could
make from it.
sam 04/01/20 11:19 pm i was going to send you a msg..but 450 word
limit :( (copy and paste)
iBLAMEj00 04/01/20 11:19 pm Actually, the amount we could make is based on
how much we put into the account.
iBLAMEj00 04/01/20 11:20 pm $500 turns to $2100, $1000 turns to $4200,
etc.
iBLAMEj00 04/01/20 11:20 pm Or e-mail me it.
sam 04/01/20 11:27 pm i emailed
sam 04/01/20 11:27 pm also... we need to increaseo ur clicks like
mad:)
sam 04/01/20 11:28 pm they actually said they wanted thumbnail, and
text description
sam 04/01/20 11:28 pm or something..but they're not sure and they
keep changing their mind
sam 04/01/20 11:28 pm trying to get a written guideline from them
sam 04/01/20 11:28 pm as well as payment commitment of net 10 days
iBLAMEj00 04/01/20 11:28 pm Thumbnails are good, but hard to do with the
search keywords.
sam 04/01/20 11:28 pm how is the storerunner stuff going?
sam 04/01/20 11:28 pm is nate and kevin working with u
sam 04/01/20 11:29 pm or are u doing most ofit.. and on other sites?
iBLAMEj00 04/01/20 11:29 pm Yea, I've got a short list of some of our
larger sites that I'm going to either ask,
demand or add the storerunner stuff myself =)
iBLAMEj00 04/01/20 11:29 pm I'll start with ask =)
sam 04/01/20 11:31 pm yeah i'd just get it done asap really
sam 04/01/20 11:31 pm and fire ppl too
sam 04/01/20 11:31 pm if u need to
iBLAMEj00 04/01/20 11:32 pm Storerunner needs to understand that if we are
sending them 100,000 click-thrus a day, and
they are only giving us 180 products a day,
that works out to 555 clicks per product in a
perfect world.
sam 04/01/20 11:32 pm i got into it with babynames person
yesterday.. she didnt want to put it on all
the products.. i was like there's a noncompete
clause 'i get no income'
sam 04/01/20 11:32 pm they said they will give us as many products
as we want
sam 04/01/20 11:32 pm how many do we want?
iBLAMEj00 04/01/20 11:32 pm If they want more products, they will need to
give us access to a larger database.
sam 04/01/20 11:32 pm do we want them in the same categories
sam 04/01/20 11:32 pm or different?
iBLAMEj00 04/01/20 11:32 pm Same as the 180?
sam 04/01/20 11:33 pm yeah..
iBLAMEj00 04/01/20 11:33 pm Some of those categories I think are useless.
sam 04/01/20 11:33 pm i know
sam 04/01/20 11:33 pm nate handled the stuff w them
iBLAMEj00 04/01/20 11:33 pm Also, a site like babylinks needs a different
category.
sam 04/01/20 11:33 pm i think you should handle the storerunner
account.. im nto happy with the way these guys
handled it thus far :) i dunno if u have time
heh
iBLAMEj00 04/01/20 11:33 pm I only get like 5 categories, because the
others are useless.
iBLAMEj00 04/01/20 11:34 pm handled how?
sam 04/01/20 11:34 pm meaning not happy w/ nate, dennis, etc. on
thinking through stuff and organizing and
making sure they're happy and knowing in
advance that too many clicks to a product is
bad.. thats so obvious.. but they're not
crteative in limiting the clicks through our
own backend..so there is no problem.
iBLAMEj00 04/01/20 11:34 pm I get these categories
"gaming",
"home",
"music",
"software",
"tech",
sam 04/01/20 11:34 pm being creative, proactive, thinking marketing
wise, what works what doesnt work, etc.
sam 04/01/20 11:34 pm yeah i think those are the ones that nate
ordered
sam 04/01/20 11:34 pm basically, storerunner will do anything for us
sam 04/01/20 11:35 pm we're one of their top click driver
sam 04/01/20 11:35 pm they dont care aoubt the mp3 stuff either
sam 04/01/20 11:35 pm (product flip)
sam 04/01/20 11:35 pm i was like whats that
iBLAMEj00 04/01/20 11:35 pm How about give us their entire database, with
category info, then we can parse it out how we
see fit.
sam 04/01/20 11:35 pm they were like 'click here for free credit
card' and takes u to anoth4r product
sam 04/01/20 11:35 pm i said, oh well we have 200 webmasters and we
cant control that..however,
sam 04/01/20 11:35 pm we want to be notified from you if there are
any redflags
sam 04/01/20 11:36 pm so we can control things much faster
sam 04/01/20 11:36 pm they were lik eour reporting is behind
iBLAMEj00 04/01/20 11:36 pm Yea, product flip is no good.
sam 04/01/20 11:36 pm i said well tell us the guidelines and also
the
sam 04/01/20 11:36 pm # of clicks per product
iBLAMEj00 04/01/20 11:36 pm But, it's also their fault because their
search sometimes gives shitty results.
sam 04/01/20 11:36 pm yeah
sam 04/01/20 11:36 pm so they seem pretty open to working with us
iBLAMEj00 04/01/20 11:37 pm Cool. I think we really need a MUCH larger
database with more categories.
iBLAMEj00 04/01/20 11:37 pm Without it, we WILL do like 50,000 to one
keyword.
sam 04/01/20 11:38 pm what kind of time doyou have
iBLAMEj00 04/01/20 11:38 pm zero, but there's always time =)
iBLAMEj00 04/01/20 11:38 pm Like sleep could be reduced lower than the 3
hours I get now =)
sam 04/01/20 11:38 pm well i was thinking you could take nate's
place w/ storerunner.. from a tech perspective
..
hey what else do you do :)
iBLAMEj00 04/01/20 11:40 pm I don't think I could take Nate's place.
Maybe assist him.
iBLAMEj00 04/01/20 11:40 pm To do everything that he's been doing is
probably too much. But, I could give some
guidance.
iBLAMEj00 04/01/20 11:41 pm And make Nate do all the work =)
sam 04/01/20 11:41 pm ok :)
iBLAMEj00 04/01/20 11:41 pm (leg work) (programming work)
sam 04/01/20 11:41 pm (i was just concerned that on the phone calls
and stuff
sam 04/01/20 11:41 pm he's not as marketing savvy as you
sam 04/01/20 11:41 pm and you knew right away 'we need more
categories..diff categories'
sam 04/01/20 11:41 pm you knew right away.. we need more products
sam 04/01/20 11:41 pm stuff like that..
iBLAMEj00 04/01/20 11:42 pm Yea, I'm twice his age, so...
sam 04/01/20 11:42 pm and srunner is more than willing to do
anything for us
sam 04/01/20 11:42 pm well i know.. thats why i was thinking just
for srunner you kinda take the lead.. but its
hard if you're remote and dont have much
time.. so we'll do the best we can right now:)
iBLAMEj00 04/01/20 11:42 pm I'm willing to help out and give whatever help
or instruction I can (make phone calls, etc).
sam 04/01/20 11:42 pm we could add an incentive or something :)
sam 04/01/20 11:43 pm all i want is 100k legit clicks a day .. thats
the end result
sam 04/01/20 11:43 pm asap :)
iBLAMEj00 04/01/20 11:44 pm I could do 70,000 alone =)
iBLAMEj00 04/01/20 11:45 pm (with 25,000 really good keywords) =)
sam 04/01/20 11:45 pm so lets do 170k then
sam 04/01/20 11:45 pm they would let us do 200k clicks a day too
sam 04/01/20 11:45 pm also they gave us TSID
sam 04/01/20 11:45 pm traffic source Id's
sam 04/01/20 11:45 pm to assign to our websites
iBLAMEj00 04/01/20 11:45 pm Heh, more ghey guys dressed in tight
Storerunner jumpsuits on TV :/
sam 04/01/20 11:45 pm how would we handle that w/ the goto
sam 04/01/20 11:46 pm there's tons of things.. we wouldnt have half
these problems if we're careful and savvy
sam 04/01/20 11:46 pm cuz i know u're a cheater so thats good that
way u think like that nad make sure that all
our bases are covdred
sam 04/01/20 11:47 pm nate is too innocent:)
iBLAMEj00 04/01/20 11:47 pm Make the GoTo account use a random TSID =)
sam 04/01/20 11:47 pm yeah see..easy solution
iBLAMEj00 04/01/20 11:47 pm I used to be a 16 year old cheater, I'm too
old for it now, just know the tricks.
iBLAMEj00 04/01/20 11:47 pm Okay, I cheat on some things if it's important
=)
sam 04/01/20 11:50 pm its still good to be savvy .. you should be
proud :)
iBLAMEj00 04/01/20 11:50 pm Maybe I should remove my PS2 link now
(considering that I've probably already got
500 clicks to it).
iBLAMEj00 04/01/20 11:51 pm I can just use both sides of my brain, unlike
most people.
iBLAMEj00 04/01/20 11:51 pm I only juse 10% of each side, but at least I
use both sides =)
sam 04/01/20 11:52 pm oh yeah.. i complained to srunner about ps2 ..
that its inherent that w'ell drive alot of
traffic
sam 04/01/20 11:52 pm they dont want tons of hits to the same
product to the same MERCHANT.. cuz merchants
may complain they said
iBLAMEj00 04/01/20 11:54 pm sam: (8:40 PM) we need to change search.php to
not go to the first product
but a random product as well
iBLAMEj00 04/01/20 11:54 pm Changing search.php to pick a random product
could help us out GREATLY.
sam 04/01/20 11:54 pm to randmon product for the same keyword
sam 04/01/20 11:55 pm yeah i know
iBLAMEj00 04/01/20 11:55 pm Yea
sam 04/01/20 11:55 pm do you have acces to the php scripts and all
sam 04/01/20 11:55 pm cais11.netwhirl.com
sam 04/01/20 11:55 pm sam/sammy
iBLAMEj00 04/01/20 11:55 pm No
sam 04/01/20 11:55 pm some directory somewhere:)
iBLAMEj00 04/01/20 11:56 pm cais11 has hardly nothing on it in the
directory that you go to.
sam 04/01/20 11:57 pm sam/sammy is the login password!
iBLAMEj00 04/01/20 11:57 pm login: sam
pass: sammy
iBLAMEj00 04/01/20 11:58 pm I get two directories: HTML & mail. Nothing
really in there.
iBLAMEj00 04/01/20 11:58 pm An e-mail you send to storerunner is about it.
sam 04/01/20 11:58 pm how about cd /web
iBLAMEj00 04/01/20 11:59 pm 550 /web: No such file or directory
iBLAMEj00 04/01/20 11:59 pm Ah, maybe you get in via crt?
sam 04/01/20 11:59 pm ssh
iBLAMEj00 04/01/20 11:59 pm I was getting in via ftp
sam 04/01/20 11:59 pm ya
sam 05/01/20 12:01 am sam@cais11:/web/newefront/affiliates>
iBLAMEj00 05/01/20 12:01 am Hey, I can now remove the pop-ups from my site
;-)
sam 05/01/20 12:02 am heh
sam 05/01/20 12:02 am u dont need more traffic anyways
iBLAMEj00 05/01/20 12:03 am Yea, but I like to win, so...
sam 05/01/20 12:04 am well considering megagames is kicking ur
but.t. :)
sam 05/01/20 12:04 am btw, here's naother report from them
iBLAMEj00 05/01/20 12:08 am megagames is kicking my ass. But not in
click-thru rate per unique visitor =)
iBLAMEj00 05/01/20 12:08 am Like I can't beat yahoo, yet =)
sam 05/01/20 12:08 am i fwd: u email from them about the traffic..
(srunner).. looks like 30k/day right now
sam 05/01/20 12:08 am not bad huh
sam 05/01/20 12:08 am 70k/day more and we're gooddiee
sam 05/01/20 12:09 am i want to diversify the traffic to as many
products as possible.. then no problem
whatsoever from them
iBLAMEj00 05/01/20 12:11 am $query = "UPDATE affiliates SET num_clicks =
num_clicks + 1 WHERE affiliate_id = '$affil'";
changed to:
if ($affil==1007) {
$query = "UPDATE affiliates SET num_clicks =
num_clicks + 10 WHERE affiliate_id =
'$affil'";
}
There, not I'm beating megagames =)
sam 05/01/20 12:12 am heh
sam 05/01/20 12:12 am its dangerous to give u access:)
iBLAMEj00 05/01/20 12:12 am Heh, nah, I'm joking and harmless.
sam 05/01/20 12:12 am i know heh
sam 05/01/20 12:13 am but i'll talk to nate & dennis to get u in the
loop tighter.. on the phone w/ srunner, on all
the srunner emails, etc.
nate has so many other things to do.. he has
to maove all our servers from cais over and
alll too
sam 05/01/20 12:14 am plus u get to play God with all the webmasters
:)
iBLAMEj00 05/01/20 12:41 am That search.php code is a mess.
iBLAMEj00 05/01/20 12:41 am Not their coding skills, but what has to be
done to get a search to work.
sam 05/01/20 12:42 am their coding skill is a mess:)
iBLAMEj00 05/01/20 12:42 am No, it's storerunner.
iBLAMEj00 05/01/20 12:43 am They have to load a webpage like this:
http://efront.storerunner.com/search.asp?pdef=
earch&search=new&stype=1&cid=0&kwords=dreamcas
+system&asid=1&clid=2202&zip=0&radius=0&areaid
0
Then parse out the links.
sam 05/01/20 12:43 am yeah i know
iBLAMEj00 05/01/20 12:49 am I think you can search based on category.
iBLAMEj00 05/01/20 12:49 am http://www.efront.com/affiliates/search.php?af
il=1007&search=NBA+2K1+Dreamcast&catid=508300
iBLAMEj00 05/01/20 12:49 am 508300 is gaming
iBLAMEj00 05/01/20 12:50 am So like this search
http://www.efront.com/affiliates/search.php?af
il=1007&search=NBA&catid=508300
Will only search in gaming for "NBA"
iBLAMEj00 05/01/20 12:51 am Music is 801619
iBLAMEj00 05/01/20 12:52 am Yea, it works:
http://www.efront.com/affiliates/search.php?af
il=1007&search=NBA&catid=801619
this finds a CD with "NBA" in the title.
iBLAMEj00 05/01/20 12:52 am That solves one of our problems...
sam 05/01/20 1:02 am i had nate add that last week..going into the
offie now.. talk later
sam 05/01/20 9:57 pm yoo hoo :)
iBLAMEj00 06/01/20 1:15 am Yoo hoo!
iBLAMEj00 06/01/20 1:20 am You still sleeping?
iBLAMEj00 06/01/20 1:20 am What's eFront's tax ID number? Someone needs
it to attend E3 and get press passes.
sam 06/01/20 1:20 am nah..lots to do.. talking to dan, and linda..
need to get ready to go to work
sam 06/01/20 1:21 am can u ask umm.. g3 to get from victoria ?
iBLAMEj00 06/01/20 1:21 am sure.
sam 06/01/20 1:21 am i dont have it offhand
iBLAMEj00 06/01/20 1:21 am I'll just use your SS# then =)
sam 06/01/20 1:21 am ok
sam 06/01/20 1:22 am if we can use your mercdes to get a loan to
finance efront :)
iBLAMEj00 06/01/20 1:22 am Heh
iBLAMEj00 06/01/20 1:22 am Which one? =)
sam 06/01/20 1:22 am hmm.. 200 webmasters.. hm.. all of them?
iBLAMEj00 06/01/20 1:23 am heh
iBLAMEj00 06/01/20 1:23 am Hey, tell Victoria that she's allowed to
return my e-mails and not be affraid to tell
me the truth.
iBLAMEj00 06/01/20 1:24 am I sent her a few e-mails and she never replied
(probably just affraid of saying the wrong
thing).
iBLAMEj00 06/01/20 1:24 am I'm sure she thinks I'm a webmaster and can't
handle the truth or something.
iBLAMEj00 06/01/20 1:27 am It's official, this is the best Tripod site
according to Tripod:
http://cyber-party.tripod.com
iBLAMEj00 06/01/20 1:28 am I'm sicker than a dog today, didn't get out of
bed till 11:00
iBLAMEj00 06/01/20 1:36 am Storerunner is so clueless.
iBLAMEj00 06/01/20 1:36 am The following additional elements, while not
required, are recommended to increase
clickthrough and improve the shopping
experience:
1) Merchant Name
a) must be hyperlinked to Merchant Info URL
2) Price
BS, that won't increase clickthroughs.
iBLAMEj00 06/01/20 1:38 am "no text string adds, changes or deletions"
So I can't add "Buy:" or "Get:" in front of
the text?
iBLAMEj00 06/01/20 1:39 am "Also include a list of the domain names for
all pages in which the External Offers will be
displayed."
I think we should just group each site in with
the existing TRSID's that we have for each
channel instead of each site getting a unique
one.
iBLAMEj00 06/01/20 1:39 am So my clicks will go under "eFront Gaming"
iBLAMEj00 06/01/20 1:40 am They even say that multiple domains can be
under one TSRID.
iBLAMEj00 06/01/20 1:41 am Very large numbers of clicks to individual
merchants. The limit is 18,000 clicks maximum
per merchant per month, regardless of the
number of individual offers clicked.
That alone will fuck us.
sam 06/01/20 1:44 am heh.. well, i actually separated accoutning
from anyone because she was getting stressed
out
sam 06/01/20 1:44 am yeah i know.. that will f us,etc.
sam 06/01/20 1:44 am thats why i sent that email off back to them
to f'off
sam 06/01/20 1:45 am thats why i want you to be part of the call
with dennis.. and not nate
iBLAMEj00 06/01/20 1:45 am Like all games go to Babbages and Express.
sam 06/01/20 1:45 am because you know exactly what the issues and
the critical points are
iBLAMEj00 06/01/20 1:45 am I can do that.
sam 06/01/20 1:46 am did u like my email to them
iBLAMEj00 06/01/20 1:46 am Yea, like a friendly f-off.
sam 06/01/20 1:46 am they need to figure this out soon.. im goingn
to start looking for another cpc ecommerce
provider as a backup
sam 06/01/20 1:46 am working on infosapce.. i need to get in the
office.. will talk to u later
iBLAMEj00 06/01/20 1:46 am k
sam 06/01/20 11:39 am hey :)
sam 06/01/20 12:47 pm hey i have an idea
sam 06/01/20 12:47 pm put goto.com search result links on the
webguide.. (and nothing else)
what do u think
iBLAMEj00 07/01/20 7:47 am I don't follow you. You mean to be a goto
affiliate?
sam 07/01/20 7:47 am im doing that right now.. working with andy
sam 07/01/20 7:48 am http://www.dragme.to/test.html
sam 07/01/20 7:48 am changing webguide to be top 5 goto links
sam 07/01/20 7:48 am need to make $$
iBLAMEj00 07/01/20 7:50 am Can't see how those links will make us
anything =)
sam 07/01/20 7:50 am its goto.com search results
iBLAMEj00 07/01/20 7:51 am Search results on what? Meaning, what search
keywords?
sam 07/01/20 7:51 am whatever is most relevant to the site
iBLAMEj00 07/01/20 7:51 am It's a little big, maybe limit the
description?
iBLAMEj00 07/01/20 7:52 am I can only see the first 3 on my screen.
sam 07/01/20 7:53 am ya not sure if we're allowed to mess with the
content :(
iBLAMEj00 07/01/20 7:53 am Just to shorten up the descriptions should be
allowed. Like to limit to 80 characters or
something.
sam 07/01/20 7:54 am ill fwd u their email
sam 07/01/20 7:56 am http://www.bomis.com/rings/Marts-animation-art
/
sam 07/01/20 7:56 am hehas it done right
iBLAMEj00 07/01/20 7:57 am That search box goes to go.com, not goto.com.
sam 07/01/20 7:57 am iknow
sam 07/01/20 7:57 am we get paid 2 ways
sam 07/01/20 7:57 am go.com + goto.com results shown
iBLAMEj00 07/01/20 7:58 am k, those are two campaigns from two companies.
sam 07/01/20 7:58 am ya
sam 07/01/20 7:59 am did u see how bomis implemented it
sam 07/01/20 7:59 am http://www.bomis.com/rings/Marts-animation-art
/
sam 07/01/20 7:59 am he doesnt even use banners
sam 07/01/20 7:59 am makes alot of goto.com $$
iBLAMEj00 07/01/20 7:59 am What do we get per click?
iBLAMEj00 07/01/20 8:00 am It should be a precentage of the search
payment.
sam 07/01/20 8:00 am monthly searches:
sam 07/01/20 9:21 am if i give u access to the navbar machine, etc.
would u be able to figure it out?
iBLAMEj00 07/01/20 9:21 am If it's php, probably.
sam 07/01/20 9:22 am exile@home (ICQ#100037310) Wrote:
cais4
exile/blah
passwd: bsdux098
edit /web/navbar
cp to /mnt/ram
then run nsync
iBLAMEj00 07/01/20 9:22 am exile is on-line?
iBLAMEj00 07/01/20 9:22 am Matt has avoided me for months =)
sam 07/01/20 9:22 am that was from this morning
sam 07/01/20 9:22 am heh
sam 07/01/20 9:22 am he's working on our ad servers or was.. he
went to globalcenter
sam 07/01/20 9:22 am we get 800 request/ second now
sam 07/01/20 9:23 am ads are broken.. he's trying to load balance
sam 07/01/20 9:23 am poor matt
iBLAMEj00 07/01/20 9:23 am Load balance should be easy. Just get
hardware to do it.
sam 07/01/20 9:23 am thats the problem :) $
sam 07/01/20 9:23 am so he's trying to manage it for now
iBLAMEj00 07/01/20 9:25 am You can do it with mod_rewrite also.
sam 07/01/20 9:25 am how would that work
iBLAMEj00 07/01/20 9:25 am Takes a small performance hit. But is better
than having one server do it.
iBLAMEj00 07/01/20 9:25 am We've got to be doing load balancing already.
sam 07/01/20 9:25 am i thnk we're doing 3 servers already
sam 07/01/20 9:25 am matt said do nsync
sam 07/01/20 9:26 am to copy navbar changes all over
sam 07/01/20 9:26 am i meant he's trying to add more stuff for
banner ad balancing or soething
iBLAMEj00 07/01/20 9:26 am nsync? I don't want any part of them on my
site.
sam 07/01/20 9:26 am ithink they died out
iBLAMEj00 07/01/20 9:27 am I think we should use the web guide to track
the most popular pages, then we can pick
keywords for those pages.
sam 07/01/20 9:28 am i wonder how we can do that
iBLAMEj00 07/01/20 9:28 am Probably pick a group, then we can do whatever
we want in that group in the future.
iBLAMEj00 07/01/20 9:28 am I'm sure we can. Just get self information.
May only work with php sites though :(
sam 07/01/20 9:29 am i dont think we should buy nt sites anymore
after we stabilize
iBLAMEj00 07/01/20 9:29 am Unless we know what page the web guide is on,
there's no point even trying to target it.
iBLAMEj00 07/01/20 9:29 am nt can run php
iBLAMEj00 07/01/20 9:29 am People just choose not to.
iBLAMEj00 07/01/20 9:29 am asp blows.
iBLAMEj00 07/01/20 9:30 am It's probably best to just pick a bunch of
POPULAR keywords and do a rotation based on
each site.
sam 07/01/20 9:31 am yeah.. is there a way we can do that
iBLAMEj00 07/01/20 9:31 am popular and those with the top position being
.20 or more.
iBLAMEj00 07/01/20 9:31 am If the keywords are popular, and there's a
high payout, most likely, people will be
interested.
iBLAMEj00 07/01/20 9:32 am And, we could also do an affiliate program too
=)
sam 07/01/20 9:32 am yeah
sam 07/01/20 9:32 am roy7: (5:32 PM) Doesn't just need to be the
top 5 for a keyword either, like in gaming, we
could take the #1 playstation, the #1
nintento, the #1 "games", and #1 dreamcast...
So all 5 links are like .50 CPC!
iBLAMEj00 07/01/20 9:32 am Get MP3 sites to show band and CD links.
iBLAMEj00 07/01/20 9:33 am Yea, I was saying that also, but can the
software do 5 different searches for one list?
iBLAMEj00 07/01/20 9:33 am Well, I know it can, but can it do it quickly?
sam 07/01/20 9:34 am yeah i doubt it
sam 07/01/20 9:34 am not sure if thats legal either
iBLAMEj00 07/01/20 9:34 am I don't think they would care, it's not like
we are forcing people to click.
sam 07/01/20 9:34 am http://www.bay9.com/
iBLAMEj00 07/01/20 9:34 am But, that gives me a good idea =)
iBLAMEj00 07/01/20 9:35 am What about getting just the top result from
any keyword?
iBLAMEj00 07/01/20 9:35 am That would ROCK!
sam 07/01/20 9:35 am i should forward u the contract .. i alrady
forwarded you the other stuff
iBLAMEj00 07/01/20 9:35 am I could replace all my storerunner links with
the top GoTo search keyword in like 5 minutes.
sam 07/01/20 9:39 am maybe get rid of 'efront webguide' ?
sam 07/01/20 9:39 am cuz ppl will think thats advertising then
sam 07/01/20 9:41 am i wonder what engine bay9.com uses
sam 07/01/20 9:42 am we should create our own goto.com
sam 07/01/20 9:42 am program for the sidebar
iBLAMEj00 07/01/20 9:42 am not php
sam 07/01/20 9:42 am that stuff isnt php?
iBLAMEj00 07/01/20 9:43 am bay9 isn't
sam 07/01/20 9:43 am i think /web/navbar/newnav
sam 07/01/20 9:43 am oh i know that
iBLAMEj00 07/01/20 9:43 am Actually, it could be, but the main page is
.html
sam 07/01/20 9:43 am program meaning .. are they using goto.com or
what
iBLAMEj00 07/01/20 9:43 am There are several companies that pay for
affiliate programs that use goto.
iBLAMEj00 07/01/20 9:44 am They just take money off the top.
sam 07/01/20 9:44 am ya i know.. searchtraffic, etc.
iBLAMEj00 07/01/20 9:44 am And yea, get rid of the eFront thing, make it
not look like an ad, just text. Text works,
ads don't.
sam 07/01/20 9:44 am did you get my email
sam 07/01/20 9:44 am that zip
iBLAMEj00 07/01/20 9:44 am And we could be just like searchtraffic, don't
pay anyone even if you think they are
cheating.
sam 07/01/20 9:45 am searchtraffic doesnt pay any1?
iBLAMEj00 07/01/20 9:45 am They pay some, but they will not pay you for
just about any reason they can think of.
sam 07/01/20 9:46 am ya i know.. standard internet screwed us too..
they were supposed to pay us 15k for
popups..and paid 3900
sam 07/01/20 9:46 am (their numbers were way off)
sam 07/01/20 9:46 am we dont do biz w/them anymore
iBLAMEj00 07/01/20 9:46 am I used them for like a day, so I had over
their $25 minimum, and I didn't get paid, yet,
they left my account open and allowed me to
continue to send searches. Then, after like 3
months I asked where my $30 was and they told
me they don't pay cheaters.
iBLAMEj00 07/01/20 9:48 am And they were like real pricks too, I didn't
care, I just did it to see if they would pay
or not.
sam 07/01/20 9:48 am yeah they are
iBLAMEj00 07/01/20 9:49 am Of course, they kept all the money they made
from goto =)
sam 07/01/20 9:49 am iknow
sam 07/01/20 9:49 am i think thats how they are able to pay 5 cents
a search
sam 07/01/20 9:49 am cuz they cheat
iBLAMEj00 07/01/20 9:49 am Right, because while goto.com says it's .20,
the reality is that it's less.
iBLAMEj00 07/01/20 9:50 am "average" is a term that can mean anything.
sam 07/01/20 9:50 am well standard internet pays 5 cents on a
'search'
not a click on a bidded search result
iBLAMEj00 07/01/20 9:50 am I'm testing a company out that pays only .03,
but you can search on anything.
iBLAMEj00 07/01/20 9:51 am And they pay for each search, not result
click.
iBLAMEj00 07/01/20 9:51 am And their search can be integrated into your
site, and have your look and feel, so it's
cool.
iBLAMEj00 07/01/20 9:51 am But, like always, we'll see if they pay =)
sam 07/01/20 9:51 am yeah
sam 07/01/20 9:51 am did the /web/navbar/newnav code make sense
iBLAMEj00 07/01/20 9:52 am Haven't got to it yet.
iBLAMEj00 07/01/20 9:54 am I don't know what the hell this is doing:
cp to /mnt/ram
then run nsync
sam 07/01/20 9:56 am probably copying to ram disk then syncing or
something not sure..maybe ill just wait
formatt to get back
iBLAMEj00 07/01/20 9:56 am So, how the hell can we make 300k/month off
e-mail?
sam 07/01/20 9:57 am that las vegas popup we're making $8 cpm on
that right no
iBLAMEj00 07/01/20 9:57 am Well, I just want to look at the code that
does it.
sam 07/01/20 9:57 am thats our own
iBLAMEj00 07/01/20 9:57 am How can we be making $8/cpm on that pop-up?
sam 07/01/20 9:57 am we get lke $2 per signup i think
iBLAMEj00 07/01/20 9:58 am So when I sent my 10k mailing list you made
$20k? =)
sam 07/01/20 9:58 am no not like that.. its for signups
sam 07/01/20 9:58 am mailing list doesnt make u anything
iBLAMEj00 07/01/20 9:58 am Then why have it?
sam 07/01/20 9:59 am when ppl sbuscribe, there are 'offers' that
they dont click off
sam 07/01/20 9:59 am those offers make money
iBLAMEj00 07/01/20 10:00 am Since no one clicks off any of those, we can't
make anything from it then.
sam 07/01/20 10:00 am noone clicks those off.. so wemake $
sam 07/01/20 10:00 am well one thing at a time.. goto first :)
iBLAMEj00 07/01/20 10:01 am Well, andy died or something, so we can't do
anything with goto.
sam 07/01/20 10:03 am he'sback..
sam 07/01/20 10:04 am DJ-Pyro: (6:03 PM)
http://www.dragme.to/efront/search.pl?Keywords
bytecenter
DJ-Pyro: (6:03 PM) i still gotta find
something for the top...if you dont put
anything there then netscape complains
sam: (6:03 PM) really
sam: (6:03 PM) why
sam: (6:03 PM) cant we make it plain text
DJ-Pyro: (6:03 PM) cause netscape requires
something in a cell for the background color
to work
iBLAMEj00 07/01/20 10:05 am How about a blank fucking image?
iBLAMEj00 07/01/20 10:05 am Some people.
iBLAMEj00 07/01/20 10:09 am I need to get XML stuff working on cais3, it
like half works now.
sam 07/01/20 10:12 am the goto.com xml stuff u mean?
iBLAMEj00 07/01/20 10:16 am yea
sam 07/01/20 10:19 am exile@home: (6:17 PM) so we're replacing the
webguide with this or ?
sam: (6:17 PM) ok.. can i get tim to mess w/
this then ?
well, yeah to try it out.. see if it works
(gets clicks)
exile@home: (6:17 PM) yeah..nate'll probably
be back in a few hours too
exile@home: (6:17 PM) but he was gonna help
get this s4r thing organized
sam 07/01/20 10:19 am sam: (6:18 PM) ok.. just trying to see if we
can pull in some extra $$ short-term w/ goto
and replaxing webguide
sam: (6:18 PM) should we mess w/ the current
webguide code.. or just call a new script?
exile@home: (6:18 PM) best bet is to use new
script
iBLAMEj00 07/01/20 10:21 am Move the eFront web guide image to the bottom
of the table, just above the about us link
sam 07/01/20 10:22 am http://www.dragme.to/efront/search.pl?Keywords
mp3
what about that.. i told andy to get rid of
the about us thing too.. should i put it back
iBLAMEj00 07/01/20 10:22 am The goto text needs to be formatted better.
sam 07/01/20 10:22 am yeah i know.. he doesnt know how to do it :(
sam 07/01/20 10:22 am i keep telling him hey mak eit better. :)
sam 07/01/20 10:22 am i think u're 3X his age heh
iBLAMEj00 07/01/20 10:22 am I know, I told him that I was his daddy.
iBLAMEj00 07/01/20 10:23 am Give me the code, I'll do it.
iBLAMEj00 07/01/20 10:23 am hey, he's doing it now...
iBLAMEj00 07/01/20 10:23 am Looks a little better now. Needs something...
sam 07/01/20 10:25 am it'd be nice to also track..
#clicks, sum(click*bid + click*bid +
nthclick*nthbid)
sam 07/01/20 10:25 am probably only way is for us to put a redir
script on our server huh
iBLAMEj00 07/01/20 10:25 am Yea, but we can trust goto. Do they give
daily stats?
sam 07/01/20 10:25 am no thats why
sam 07/01/20 10:25 am they said monthly
sam 07/01/20 10:26 am just so we have an idea of whats going on
thats all
iBLAMEj00 07/01/20 10:26 am Then we should think about some kind of
redirect script.
sam 07/01/20 10:26 am DJ-Pyro (ICQ#42161018) Wrote:
http://www.dragme.to/efront/search.pl?Keywords
bytecenter ...you tell me..if you need changes
now are the time
[ill tell him to report to you? :)
iBLAMEj00 07/01/20 10:27 am Heh
iBLAMEj00 07/01/20 10:29 am Back in my power hungry days I would have
jumped on the chance for someone to report to
me =)
sam 07/01/20 10:29 am lol
sam 07/01/20 10:30 am i hate having ppl reporting.. i wish everyone
knew exactly what to do and were their own
boss :)
sam 07/01/20 10:30 am like the borg
sam 07/01/20 10:30 am heh
iBLAMEj00 07/01/20 10:30 am Heh, lets work on that, then this
storerunner/goto stuff would be easy.
iBLAMEj00 07/01/20 10:31 am Probably easier to do a neural linkage than to
get everyone to do what we want.
sam 07/01/20 10:32 am yeah..
also.. careers.efront.com we make 10 cent cpc
on job clicks (result of job search.. if u
click)
sam 07/01/20 10:32 am using realmedia, we could target by zipcode
sam 07/01/20 10:32 am then list the top 5 job searches
iBLAMEj00 07/01/20 10:32 am yea =)
iBLAMEj00 07/01/20 10:32 am Then I could quit eFront! =)
sam 07/01/20 10:32 am i dont think there are any other jobs for your
ohio zipcode :(
sam 07/01/20 10:33 am unfortunately
iBLAMEj00 07/01/20 10:33 am heh
sam 07/01/20 10:34 am 5 goto links (keyword targeted)
5 job result links (geotargted)
5 srunner links (pagetargeted)
all are aobut 10 cents.. and keep rotating..
someone's gotta click on them :)
sam 07/01/20 10:35 am even 5 mil webguide imprressions a day * 1%
clickthru = 500k clicks * 10 cent = 50k a day
sam 07/01/20 10:35 am hehe
sam 07/01/20 10:35 am unrealistic? :(
iBLAMEj00 07/01/20 10:35 am Make them rotate as you stay static on a page
even =)
sam 07/01/20 10:35 am i dunno bout that .. is that possible :) or ur
joking rightr
iBLAMEj00 07/01/20 10:35 am Now all we gotta do is get people to add the
freakin' web guide.
sam 07/01/20 10:36 am yeah.. if we can monetize it properly
sam 07/01/20 10:36 am then adding would be easier
iBLAMEj00 07/01/20 10:36 am Or scroll it so it's always visible =) That's
possible, but annoying =)
sam 07/01/20 10:36 am or make the webguide 150x10000 :)
sam 07/01/20 10:36 am did you see the bomis example
sam 07/01/20 10:36 am not bad what he does huh
iBLAMEj00 07/01/20 10:36 am bomis?
iBLAMEj00 07/01/20 10:37 am bay9?
sam 07/01/20 10:37 am http://www.bomis.com/rings/Marts-animation-art
sam 07/01/20 10:37 am he doesnt even use banners
sam 07/01/20 10:37 am he has goto, directhit, etc.
sam 07/01/20 10:37 am double webguide:)
iBLAMEj00 07/01/20 10:38 am Yea, banners suck, you know that.
sam 07/01/20 10:38 am i notice andy is putting in cost to advertiser
sam 07/01/20 10:38 am do we have to do that
iBLAMEj00 07/01/20 10:38 am text links are the way to go.
iBLAMEj00 07/01/20 10:38 am I just asked him to do it, so we could at
least see how much the keywords are.
sam 07/01/20 10:39 am k
iBLAMEj00 07/01/20 10:39 am And EVERY site that uses Goto shows the cost
per adversiser.
iBLAMEj00 07/01/20 10:39 am advertiser even.
sam 07/01/20 10:40 am http://www.centerfind.com/
sam 07/01/20 10:41 am weshould use that as our 404 page :)
iBLAMEj00 07/01/20 10:41 am "BIDDED LISTING"
iBLAMEj00 07/01/20 10:42 am Oh yea =)
sam 07/01/20 10:42 am yeah.. i think u have the option to use the
cent
sam 07/01/20 10:42 am or bidded listing
sam 07/01/20 10:42 am we own bestofonline.com
iBLAMEj00 07/01/20 10:42 am Telling people what the bid amount is isn't a
problem.
sam 07/01/20 10:42 am we should steal that page from centerfind.com
and upload that to bestofonline
iBLAMEj00 07/01/20 10:42 am It could acutally help.
sam 07/01/20 10:42 am ok
iBLAMEj00 07/01/20 10:42 am Yea, and make it our 404 page =)
sam 07/01/20 10:42 am how bout getting rid of 'cost to advertiser'
too much verbage?
sam 07/01/20 10:43 am bestofonline.com is our 404
sam 07/01/20 10:43 am yeah
iBLAMEj00 07/01/20 10:43 am Ah, I see, it is.
sam 07/01/20 10:43 am it gets 200 clicks a day :()
sam 07/01/20 10:44 am but we have 200k 404's a day at least
sam 07/01/20 10:44 am we need to use goto.com
sam 07/01/20 10:44 am make more $$
sam 07/01/20 10:44 am srunner is only good for embedded incontext
stuff i thik
iBLAMEj00 07/01/20 10:53 am http://www.dragme.to/efront/search.pl?Keywords
arcade@home
iBLAMEj00 07/01/20 10:53 am heh
iBLAMEj00 07/01/20 10:53 am And did you know that Andy was going to write
this in perl?
sam 07/01/20 10:54 am what did u write it in
sam 07/01/20 10:54 am ya.. tahts all he knows
iBLAMEj00 07/01/20 10:54 am I didn't write it, Andy did.
sam 07/01/20 10:54 am he *did* write it in perl
sam 07/01/20 10:54 am did you see that .xls file
sam 07/01/20 10:54 am in that zip that i emailed
iBLAMEj00 07/01/20 10:54 am And can perl run 800 of these per second?
iBLAMEj00 07/01/20 10:55 am Yea, I can't run it, my server doesn't support
xml.
sam 07/01/20 10:55 am its browser side
iBLAMEj00 07/01/20 10:55 am No it's not.
sam 07/01/20 10:55 am i ran it on my comp
sam 07/01/20 10:56 am dont have a wserver on her
iBLAMEj00 07/01/20 10:56 am Oh, your computer may support xml.
iBLAMEj00 07/01/20 10:57 am All I get is just the source code.
sam 07/01/20 10:57 am oh ya me too
sam 07/01/20 10:57 am thats what i meant
iBLAMEj00 07/01/20 10:57 am In any case, should andy be writing this in
perl, when we can't go live with it in perl?
iBLAMEj00 07/01/20 10:57 am It's not running, it's just displaying the
source.
sam 07/01/20 10:58 am ya.. hm perl we can do more than 800 huh
sam 07/01/20 10:58 am can u tell him to rewrite
sam 07/01/20 10:58 am in php
sam 07/01/20 10:58 am is it alot of code
iBLAMEj00 07/01/20 10:58 am Heh
sam 07/01/20 10:58 am i dont think he knows php
iBLAMEj00 07/01/20 10:59 am I don't know, maybe we can do it in perl, but
everything I've heard and tried in perl is a
total pig. And everything that eFront writes
is in php.
sam 07/01/20 11:00 am yeah i know
iBLAMEj00 07/01/20 11:00 am We probably need to ask Nate or Matt if the
webguide can run with a perl script. I'd bet
no, but I don't want to put Andy out of a job
=)
sam 07/01/20 11:00 am well at least its a demo.. that someone can
rewerite fast if they need to
iBLAMEj00 07/01/20 11:00 am You never see perl being used on high traffic
sites.
sam 07/01/20 11:00 am andy an write the redir script in pelr maybe
iBLAMEj00 07/01/20 11:01 am Yea, but there are some big problems that
would need to be corrected.
iBLAMEj00 07/01/20 11:01 am perl = slow, slow = more servers, more servers
= more money
sam 07/01/20 11:02 am more money = problems
iBLAMEj00 07/01/20 11:02 am heh
iBLAMEj00 07/01/20 11:03 am Like I said, I don't know for sure, but I
think that Nate and Matt would say that it
needed to be php.
iBLAMEj00 07/01/20 11:03 am We should have a php standard =)
iBLAMEj00 07/01/20 11:03 am Not even buy sites that use perl.
iBLAMEj00 07/01/20 11:03 am =)
sam 07/01/20 11:04 am ya.. and unix :)
iBLAMEj00 07/01/20 11:04 am Some sites are on NT, but they can be moved to
unix without any problems.
sam 07/01/20 11:05 am ok.. no asp
iBLAMEj00 07/01/20 11:05 am As long as they are not using asp or something
else that's NT only.
iBLAMEj00 07/01/20 11:05 am Like GameRankings. As his site gets more
popular, he has to remove scripts =)
iBLAMEj00 07/01/20 11:06 am Or like his server crashes =)
iBLAMEj00 07/01/20 11:06 am Gotta love asp =)
iBLAMEj00 07/01/20 11:06 am And once an asp man, always an asp man.
iBLAMEj00 07/01/20 11:06 am (that's supposed to sound like an "ass" man).
sam 07/01/20 11:07 am heh.. scott is kinda weird sometimes.. he gets
excited than paranoid:)
iBLAMEj00 07/01/20 11:07 am Heh, he's a good guy.
sam 07/01/20 11:07 am yeah
iBLAMEj00 07/01/20 11:08 am Heh, Andy is funny.
iBLAMEj00 07/01/20 11:08 am I told him to not show sites that don't have
bids.
iBLAMEj00 07/01/20 11:08 am And he doesn't quite understand why =)
sam 07/01/20 11:09 am lol
iBLAMEj00 07/01/20 11:09 am But I think I've convinced him to just do it
anyway =)
sam 07/01/20 11:09 am i know.. he'sfunny :)
iBLAMEj00 07/01/20 11:10 am He's Polish, what do you expect?
iBLAMEj00 07/01/20 11:11 am http://www.dragme.to/efront/search.pl?Keywords
arcade@home
sam 07/01/20 11:11 am DJ-Pyro (ICQ#42161018) Wrote:
man...he is odd :)
sam 07/01/20 11:12 am he says ur odd heh
iBLAMEj00 07/01/20 11:15 am Go to goto.com and search for "arcade@home"
iBLAMEj00 07/01/20 11:15 am The #1 spot isn't me, it's someone else that's
paying for our trademark =)
sam 07/01/20 11:16 am heh
sam 07/01/20 11:16 am softseek huh
iBLAMEj00 07/01/20 11:16 am That's funny.
iBLAMEj00 07/01/20 11:16 am I must be somebody if someone else is paying
for that keyword.
iBLAMEj00 07/01/20 11:17 am Heh, I'm not even in the top 40! That shows
how f-ed up search engines are.
sam 08/01/20 10:30 am hey do u have that banner that works gret
iBLAMEj00 08/01/20 9:43 pm Yea
iBLAMEj00 08/01/20 9:44 pm I'll e-mail it to you.
sam 08/01/20 11:38 pm hey r u ther
iBLAMEj00 08/01/20 11:38 pm Ya
sam 08/01/20 11:39 pm we're running the ps2 banner do u see it
sam 08/01/20 11:39 pm (win free ps2)
sam 08/01/20 11:39 pm .25% clickthru rate. targetting usa visitors
so far
iBLAMEj00 08/01/20 11:39 pm I didn't see it.
iBLAMEj00 08/01/20 11:40 pm I've been reloading like a mad-man and haven't
seen it.
sam 08/01/20 11:41 pm hm.. lemme see what drazen did
sam 08/01/20 11:44 pm trying to find it in real media.. but anyways,
the conversion rate is low.. like 15% :(
iBLAMEj00 08/01/20 11:45 pm Do you mean the PS2 pop-up?
sam 08/01/20 11:45 pm no the ps2 banner.. the ps2 popup makes us $25
cpm ! becuase of the offers..
sam 08/01/20 11:45 pm (so far)
sam 08/01/20 11:45 pm so i thought well lets do it throgh the banner
sam 08/01/20 11:45 pm and we're getting .25% ctr
sam 08/01/20 11:45 pm and of the .25%, only 15% are filling out the
form
sam 08/01/20 11:46 pm and we make about $1 per signup right now
sam 08/01/20 11:46 pm so thats about 38 cent cpm
iBLAMEj00 08/01/20 11:47 pm Still better than the going rate =)
sam 08/01/20 11:47 pm if the conversion was higher.. say 50%.. we'd
make 1.25 cpm!
sam 08/01/20 11:47 pm i know.. but im sure we can improve it alot
and make 2-3 cpm
sam 08/01/20 11:47 pm a) we need to get more paid offers per signup
sam 08/01/20 11:47 pm b) we need better creative and marketing savvy
:)
iBLAMEj00 08/01/20 11:47 pm If it's the same banner that I'm using, I get
a 1.7%-2.2% click-thru rate from it.
sam 08/01/20 11:48 pm i wonder why u get so high and ours didnt
werid
sam 08/01/20 11:48 pm roy7 (ICQ#585621) Wrote:
http://ad.adtraq.com/banners/468x60/cpa/banner
ps2.gif
once it appears there I'll turn it live.
iBLAMEj00 08/01/20 11:48 pm That's on link exchange, so it's on a bunch of
different sites, some that cheat, some that
place ads at the bottom of the page, etc.
iBLAMEj00 08/01/20 11:50 pm It's the exact same freakin' ad, it should get
a better click-thru rate.
iBLAMEj00 08/01/20 11:51 pm I can see it being a little off, but 1/10th
the rate?
iBLAMEj00 08/01/20 11:51 pm Maybe target it just to gaming sites
iBLAMEj00 08/01/20 11:51 pm I target it to the following:
Games : Video Games : Nintendo 64
Games : Video Games : PlayStation
Games : Video Games : Classic Arcade Games
Games : Video Games : Classic Video Games
Games : Video Games : Game Sys. Emulation
sam 08/01/20 11:52 pm you know what we need.. we need to target each
page in our network man
sam 08/01/20 11:52 pm we need that for so many things :)
iBLAMEj00 08/01/20 11:52 pm Well in realmedia we can just make that ps2 ad
go to gaming sites, right?
sam 08/01/20 11:53 pm yes
sam 08/01/20 11:53 pm i just checked.. drazen had 2 ads
sam 08/01/20 11:53 pm one was a stupid ad.. i turned off (bad
creative)
iBLAMEj00 08/01/20 11:53 pm 2 ads?
sam 08/01/20 11:53 pm 2 fcreative
iBLAMEj00 08/01/20 11:53 pm Ah, maybe that's it.
sam 08/01/20 11:53 pm and he targeted the us also.. which i never
saw it and u never see it
sam 08/01/20 11:53 pm so realmedia targeting sux
sam 08/01/20 11:54 pm ok its live now
sam 08/01/20 11:54 pm check it :)
iBLAMEj00 08/01/20 11:54 pm damn, first time =)
sam 08/01/20 11:54 pm okay.. now click on it
sam 08/01/20 11:54 pm something sux about that creative
sam 08/01/20 11:54 pm the conversino rate is low
sam 08/01/20 11:54 pm there has to be a better way of getting people
sam 08/01/20 11:55 pm so thats where i wanted your input on :)
sam 08/01/20 11:55 pm thats pretty bad i dont see privacy policy
link or nothing there ..g eez
sam 08/01/20 11:55 pm i gotta talk to dan about that
sam 08/01/20 11:55 pm and the go button is at the bottom
iBLAMEj00 08/01/20 11:55 pm It doesn't seem that bad, maybe now that we
have real people going to it it will be
higher.
sam 08/01/20 11:55 pm thats pretty bad
sam 08/01/20 11:55 pm and it shouldnt goto another window
iBLAMEj00 08/01/20 11:56 pm Yea, that would help.
sam 08/01/20 11:56 pm it should popup in a small window
sam 08/01/20 11:56 pm i bet allt hose effect the conversion rate
sam 08/01/20 11:56 pm dont you think
iBLAMEj00 08/01/20 11:56 pm I believe that all banners should go to
another window.
sam 08/01/20 11:56 pm i know.. i dunno what they're thinking..geez:)
iBLAMEj00 08/01/20 11:56 pm just target="_blank"
sam 08/01/20 11:57 pm i know
iBLAMEj00 08/01/20 11:57 pm 2 reasons, first, if it's in a small source
window or a frame, you'll be able to see it
and size it, and second, it leaves our sites
still open in a window so you don't lose the
person.
sam 08/01/20 11:58 pm yeah..plus its easier on the person
i know the doubleclick lady i talked to on
improving ctr's said open everything in a new
iwndow
sam 08/01/20 11:58 pm (from bannres)
iBLAMEj00 08/01/20 11:58 pm Yup
sam 08/01/20 11:58 pm and it shouldnt have the whole browser
sam 08/01/20 11:58 pm it hould be a small window
sam 08/01/20 11:58 pm i bet all those would increase the ctr%
sam 08/01/20 11:59 pm there's so many things we could try.. how do
we make other people marketing savvy.. they
just do it and leave it :)
sam 09/01/20 12:02 am once i explain to you how this database
marketing works, you'll fall in love:)
iBLAMEj00 09/01/20 12:04 am You keep telling me that =)
sam 09/01/20 12:05 am ok see that ps2 pgae?
sam 09/01/20 12:05 am there are 3 paid ads there..
iBLAMEj00 09/01/20 12:07 am And you leave them checked by default =)
sam 09/01/20 12:07 am dany123 (ICQ#42149373) Wrote:
FreeCoolers- $.30 100% conversion
tshirtnews- $.50 33% conversion
bluedolphin- $.65 100% conversion
iBLAMEj00 09/01/20 12:07 am But whenever I fill out those forms, I uncheck
them all but the one I want =)
sam 09/01/20 12:07 am so we made..
1850* .65
+ 900 * .50
+ 1850 * .30
?
sam 09/01/20 12:08 am so 2575$ on 77,000 impressions?
sam 09/01/20 12:08 am so thats a 25$ cpm
sam 09/01/20 12:08 am 15% uncheck all
sam 09/01/20 12:08 am so we have 85% conversino rate:)
iBLAMEj00 09/01/20 12:08 am Not bad.
iBLAMEj00 09/01/20 12:08 am Do we still make $1 even if they uncheck them
all?
iBLAMEj00 09/01/20 12:09 am We should offer this as an affiliate program
=)
sam 09/01/20 12:09 am no.. its per offer
sam 09/01/20 12:09 am and we have only 3 sold
sam 09/01/20 12:09 am im going to turn all our sales guys to sell
that soon
iBLAMEj00 09/01/20 12:09 am Give the sites like $3/CPM, keep $22/CPM
sam 09/01/20 12:09 am we have our own traffic!
iBLAMEj00 09/01/20 12:10 am Yea, but people only sign-up once.
sam 09/01/20 12:12 am so do a frequency cap.. edont target them
again
sam 09/01/20 12:12 am next one will be
"Sign up for Job Alerts & Win a free
all-expenses paid trip to E3"
sam 09/01/20 12:12 am dude this is unlimited:)
iBLAMEj00 09/01/20 12:15 am How about just send me to E3 and add Job Alert
banners =)
sam 09/01/20 12:16 am sure sure.. but listen
sam 09/01/20 12:16 am we're going to be changing tonssss of stuff
sam 09/01/20 12:16 am i ran some ideas by the megagames guy.. he was
okay with it
iBLAMEj00 09/01/20 12:17 am Run 'em by me...
iBLAMEj00 09/01/20 12:17 am But I've gotta go to the little boys room and
get more coffee =)
sam 09/01/20 12:24 am of course your email doesnt do more than 450
chrs:)
iBLAMEj00 09/01/20 12:26 am My e-mail or my ICQ?
sam 09/01/20 12:26 am just send to ur email
sam 09/01/20 12:26 am ur icq sux
sam 09/01/20 12:26 am im going to restrict access to alot of our
sites.. and make ppl signup.. and when ppl
signup, throw offers at them!
iBLAMEj00 09/01/20 12:29 am I was thinking of an iwon "credits" thing
where they could get credits for doing
different things, like signing up for offers,
etc.
sam 09/01/20 12:29 am you mean like mypoints.. yeah
iBLAMEj00 09/01/20 12:29 am The person with the top credits, gets
something.
sam 09/01/20 12:29 am that could work too
sam 09/01/20 12:30 am sam: (8:27 AM) like on megagames? some section
(most popular) will be member only.. so they
have to signup
Andye: (8:27 AM) You got my ICQ about that
combat web site then?
sam: (8:27 AM) and we can 'tag along' other
offers everything they signup or log in their
accounts
s
sam 09/01/20 12:30 am am: (8:27 AM) yes.. so this idea makes it Free
subscription base
sam: (8:27 AM) and we make our $$$ from the
signup process
Andye: (8:28 AM) Yes that is better... some
other sites could work with subs.... not sure
which yet...
sam: (8:28 AM) and i want to develop a network
wide registration process to get access tot he
most popular areas on all the sites
sam 09/01/20 12:31 am Andye: (8:28 AM) That makes the most sense...
sam: (8:28 AM) like even babynames could work
well.. before u do search for babynames, you
fill out a little form.. and the trick would
be to integrate
sam: (8:28 AM) for example.. u dont want to
say 'if u dont sign up , u dont get in'
sam 09/01/20 12:31 am sam: (8:29 AM) but u want to ask for their
info + baby birthdate & other things.. so we
can come up with suggestinos for baby names
for them, etc.
sam: (8:29 AM) everysite we can do this.. i
went through 50 sites..
sam 09/01/20 12:31 am imagine your Roms not being downloadable
unless they sign up:)
sam 09/01/20 12:31 am its free signup too
sam 09/01/20 12:31 am so it shouldnt lose too many people at all
sam 09/01/20 12:31 am will that work
iBLAMEj00 09/01/20 12:31 am Make my downloads not available till you
sign-up =)
sam 09/01/20 12:32 am matt said
"its roms.. ppl will be nervous about giving
their info"
sam 09/01/20 12:32 am is that true
sam 09/01/20 12:32 am we say explicitly in the porlicy we dont track
their behaviour or cookie them or something?
sam 09/01/20 12:32 am or they wont even know?
sam 09/01/20 12:32 am or wont care?
iBLAMEj00 09/01/20 12:32 am Not just their e-mail address, they will just
use a yahoo mailbox or something.
sam 09/01/20 12:32 am yeah.. yahoo boxes are fine
sam 09/01/20 12:33 am you should see how many free email boxes we're
collecting.. TONS
sam 09/01/20 12:33 am the advertisers dont seem to care
iBLAMEj00 09/01/20 12:33 am Heh, I bet.
sam 09/01/20 12:33 am soooooooo
sam 09/01/20 12:33 am i was thinking this
iBLAMEj00 09/01/20 12:33 am Do they verify the e-mail addresses?
sam 09/01/20 12:33 am create a centralized efront registratino
system
iBLAMEj00 09/01/20 12:34 am Cause I like to sign-up using "bite@me.com"
or "fuck@off.com"
iBLAMEj00 09/01/20 12:34 am I've often wondered if someone actually had
those e-mail addresses.
iBLAMEj00 09/01/20 12:35 am As long as they not only signup for that, but
also for each site's mailing list as well,
sure!
iBLAMEj00 09/01/20 12:35 am Not sure how we would know to allow them in
however.
sam 09/01/20 12:35 am yeah.. and also, instead of coding somehitng
for each site, do it so that.. each site can
'co-brand'
sam 09/01/20 12:36 am the registration thing
sam 09/01/20 12:36 am w/ their look & feel
iBLAMEj00 09/01/20 12:36 am Yea
sam 09/01/20 12:36 am and have some sort of block access
sam 09/01/20 12:36 am to certain areas
iBLAMEj00 09/01/20 12:36 am Or at least use their colors and a logo, that
would be easier.
sam 09/01/20 12:36 am i bet we'd get 50k signups a day easy if not
more
iBLAMEj00 09/01/20 12:36 am At first it would be really high.
sam 09/01/20 12:36 am yeah but the thing is everytime they come back
and log in
sam 09/01/20 12:36 am we throw offers again :)
sam 09/01/20 12:36 am new offers :)
iBLAMEj00 09/01/20 12:36 am So we may want to roll it out over a month or
two.
sam 09/01/20 12:37 am better than subscriton based content huh :)
iBLAMEj00 09/01/20 12:37 am Well, once they signed up, they would have to
be allowed in each time.
sam 09/01/20 12:37 am of course
iBLAMEj00 09/01/20 12:37 am Only if these companies pay :/
sam 09/01/20 12:37 am i know huh
sam 09/01/20 12:38 am well i gotta take shower.. been working all
weekend @ home..heh time to get in the
fofice.. tlk later.. plz help w/ srunner :)
bye
iBLAMEj00 09/01/20 12:39 pm You 'round?
iBLAMEj00 09/01/20 12:39 pm Wanting to know how the PS2 ad is doing.
sam 09/01/20 12:39 pm hey.. going upto speedyclick tomrorow..
banging on their doors
sam 09/01/20 12:39 pm roy should know.. can u ask him
(im working on a deal for excite right now :)
sam 09/01/20 12:39 pm speedyclick owes us $$.. they invited me down
there
iBLAMEj00 09/01/20 12:40 pm Tell them to send the check, and when you get
it you'll meet with them.
sam 09/01/20 12:41 pm im going to threaten them
sam 09/01/20 12:41 pm you'll see :)
sam 09/01/20 12:41 pm i have a solid plan of attack
iBLAMEj00 09/01/20 12:41 pm Is that for the damn pop-ups?
sam 09/01/20 12:41 pm ya
sam 09/01/20 12:41 pm threaten them with theSEC
sam 09/01/20 12:41 pm :)
sam 09/01/20 12:41 pm about some stuff they're doing.. i got them
redhanded
sam 09/01/20 12:41 pm they better fking pay us
iBLAMEj00 09/01/20 12:41 pm I swear, they should pay up-front for pop-ups.
iBLAMEj00 09/01/20 12:42 pm When I sold ads, I only accepted up-front
payments.
iBLAMEj00 09/01/20 12:42 pm Better to serve valueclick ads then ads that
never pay.
sam 09/01/20 12:44 pm i know.. :)
any luck with srunner? :(
iBLAMEj00 09/01/20 12:47 pm Maybe with all these networks going under
there will be some ads coming our way (wishful
thinking).
sam 09/01/20 12:47 pm we need more sales ppl.. but now kinda hard to
hire them.. wanna bankroll efront? heh
iBLAMEj00 09/01/20 12:47 pm Heh
iBLAMEj00 09/01/20 12:48 pm I kinda did already =)
sam 09/01/20 12:48 pm i know:) bankroll them with srunner's money :)
sam 09/01/20 12:48 pm i told dennis to call u and then get john
gaffney on the phone
sam 09/01/20 12:48 pm and fix all the limit, guideline, all those
issues
iBLAMEj00 09/01/20 12:48 pm I talked to Dennis tonight.
sam 09/01/20 12:48 pm great
iBLAMEj00 09/01/20 12:48 pm We will talk with storerunner tomorrow or
Wednesday.
sam 09/01/20 12:49 pm nice
iBLAMEj00 09/01/20 12:49 pm We making money off Redmoon?
sam 09/01/20 12:50 pm yes.. small campaign but 30cpm
sam 09/01/20 12:50 pm like for 15k
sam 09/01/20 12:50 pm i told brad to get more campaignsl ike that:)
iBLAMEj00 09/01/20 12:51 pm Did we already fill the order?
iBLAMEj00 09/01/20 12:51 pm I tried to get the game, but it never sent it
to me.
iBLAMEj00 09/01/20 12:51 pm (form didn't work)
iBLAMEj00 09/01/20 12:52 pm I got an e-mail that I was on a mailing list,
but never the game nor a link to it.
sam 09/01/20 12:54 pm it sends it to your addres inohoi
sam 09/01/20 12:55 pm yes we filled it real fast
iBLAMEj00 09/01/20 12:56 pm So why are we still serving the ad?
sam 09/01/20 12:57 pm well the order was filled (they wanted 1500
signups).. but the ads are for the entire
month
iBLAMEj00 09/01/20 12:57 pm They ship the game in the mail?
sam 09/01/20 12:58 pm yes
iBLAMEj00 09/01/20 12:58 pm If they get several thousand signups from us
in the month, maybe they will expand it next
month =)
sam 09/01/20 12:59 pm yeah i told brad to see if they can expand
it:)
sam 09/01/20 12:59 pm and get more deals like that
iBLAMEj00 09/01/20 1:00 pm It should be made clear that they will send it
in the mail, I figured they would give me a
url to download it from.
sam 09/01/20 1:03 pm yeah.. can u let brad or bill hodson know :)
iBLAMEj00 09/01/20 1:04 pm Dear Tim Eckel :
StoreRunner regrets to inform you that we have
chosen not to accept your site into our
affiliate program.
Best Regards,
The StoreRunner Team
http://www.storerunner.com
iBLAMEj00 09/01/20 1:04 pm Heh, I tried to sign-up for the storerunner
affiliate program and was denied.
iBLAMEj00 09/01/20 1:04 pm =)
sam 09/01/20 1:06 pm :)
iBLAMEj00 11/01/20 11:54 pm How's my main man doing this morning?
sam 12/01/20 12:16 am hey hows it going
iBLAMEj00 12/01/20 12:16 am Just thinking of the slowest way to kill
everyone at CAIS.
sam 12/01/20 12:16 am we're alomst done moving outta there
iBLAMEj00 12/01/20 12:16 am I know, I'm talking with Nate.
iBLAMEj00 12/01/20 12:17 am That's going to be a big freakin' job.
iBLAMEj00 12/01/20 12:17 am The content is easy to move, but all the stuff
like mySQL, server settings, etc will be
manual :(
sam 12/01/20 12:17 am ya thas true
iBLAMEj00 12/01/20 12:18 am I told Nate that he had to go without sleep
till everything was moved.
sam 12/01/20 12:18 am heh.. i think he is :)
iBLAMEj00 12/01/20 12:18 am So the ad servers are at globalcenter and the
sites are at s4r.
sam 12/01/20 12:18 am ya
iBLAMEj00 12/01/20 12:19 am I see that s4r has already put us on their
clients page =)
sam 12/01/20 12:19 am i know :)
iBLAMEj00 12/01/20 12:21 am globalcenter and s4r is close to you guys?
sam 12/01/20 12:22 am s4r is in la.. and globalcenter is in anaheim
so yes
iBLAMEj00 12/01/20 12:22 am Well, it's actually called Exodus as of
yesterday =)
sam 12/01/20 12:22 am oh ya
iBLAMEj00 12/01/20 12:25 am So how did your meetings go?
iBLAMEj00 12/01/20 12:28 am That well? =)
sam 12/01/20 12:50 am taking a shower:) going to the office now
meetings..speedyclick went bad.. they refuse
to pay.. sooo we called up their network
commerce cfo yesterday.. we're putting a lot
of pressure on them.. they're doing some shady
things :)
iBLAMEj00 12/01/20 10:11 pm Looking for a mail-order bride?
http://www.shahfil.udm.net/ads/phrase10.htm
sam 13/01/20 11:05 am hey.. made our payroll today.. $0 left:)
banging on more collections next week.. good
stuff lined up
sam 13/01/20 11:06 am infospace also gave us a termsheet for that
investment in writing today.. so we'll have
some relief by the time that closes
iBLAMEj00 13/01/20 11:11 am Excellent.
iBLAMEj00 13/01/20 11:11 am We need to weed out the shit and small sites.
sam 13/01/20 11:11 am yeah absolutely.. we're all feeling energized
in the office today
sam 13/01/20 11:12 am making lot of progress..and doing alot of
restructuring as well
iBLAMEj00 13/01/20 11:29 am Well I'm glad that you consider me an employee
=)
iBLAMEj00 13/01/20 11:30 am Hey, I'm on the eFront webmaster's mailing
list. Lots of interesting stuff there =)
sam 13/01/20 11:32 am heh.. of coruse
well you knmow some of the webmasters remained
on the line after we hung up.. att forgot to
disconnect.. so i heard they were bitching
somewhat :)
sam 13/01/20 11:32 am thats okay though..we're trying our best
sam 13/01/20 11:32 am anything significant on the list?:)
iBLAMEj00 13/01/20 11:32 am Well, I guess I'm a mole =)
iBLAMEj00 13/01/20 11:33 am But, I won't turn anyone in for anything they
say.
iBLAMEj00 13/01/20 11:33 am However, giving you the dirt from the field
can be useful =)
sam 13/01/20 11:33 am i dont really care if ppl say stuff really :)
iBLAMEj00 13/01/20 11:33 am Yea, people will talk, that we can't help.
sam 13/01/20 11:33 am we are late in payments.. so they kinda hve
tthe right to complain .. nothing we can do
iBLAMEj00 13/01/20 11:33 am I'm posting messages as well.
iBLAMEj00 13/01/20 11:33 am Right
sam 13/01/20 11:34 am but penny arcade is b.s.
sam 13/01/20 11:34 am he's not 2 months late in payments.. more like
12 days
iBLAMEj00 13/01/20 11:34 am Someone said 4 months =)
iBLAMEj00 13/01/20 11:34 am They consider net30, 30 days late =)
sam 13/01/20 11:35 am thats why theyre no longer with us :)
iBLAMEj00 13/01/20 11:35 am Also, they look at is as Feburary 19th
iBLAMEj00 13/01/20 11:35 am Penny Arcade?
sam 13/01/20 11:35 am yeah we kicked them out.. basically they
refuse to cooperate
sam 13/01/20 11:35 am they been bitching for a year
sam 13/01/20 11:35 am about wanting to get out
iBLAMEj00 13/01/20 11:35 am Heh, he just said a few hours ago that he
couldn't get out of his contract.
sam 13/01/20 11:36 am so we said ok fine.. leave..take ur stinking
site back :)
sam 13/01/20 11:36 am um no.. we let him out
iBLAMEj00 13/01/20 11:36 am Heh, cool.
iBLAMEj00 13/01/20 11:36 am It's not like comic sites are that good
anyway.
sam 13/01/20 11:36 am yeah i know
iBLAMEj00 13/01/20 11:36 am They only work as long as the authors are with
us.
sam 13/01/20 11:36 am yup
iBLAMEj00 13/01/20 11:36 am So they got us.
sam 13/01/20 11:37 am so thats why we said ok, u dont want to
cooperate? ok.. there's the door :)
sam 13/01/20 11:37 am overall things seemed to go well..most of the
msgs we recieved were positive
iBLAMEj00 13/01/20 11:37 am Did you make they sign an agreement that they
can't talk bad about eFront?
sam 13/01/20 11:37 am no.. we probably should huh.. the paperwork
isnt signed:) so we should do that
iBLAMEj00 13/01/20 11:37 am Yea, because he will cause a stink.
iBLAMEj00 13/01/20 11:38 am Create eFront comics, etc.
iBLAMEj00 13/01/20 11:38 am He also has a link to slashdot.
iBLAMEj00 13/01/20 11:38 am We don't want to be slammed on slashdot every
other day.
iBLAMEj00 13/01/20 11:39 am Many are coming to realize that the market
really is shit out there.
iBLAMEj00 13/01/20 11:39 am I've been trying to give them a pep rally.
iBLAMEj00 13/01/20 11:39 am Calling eFront OUR site and that I don't want
MY company to fail.
sam 13/01/20 11:39 am yeah.. :) we'll be fine if everyone
proactively works with efront like you do
sam 13/01/20 11:39 am imagine if everyone did srunner like u did
sam 13/01/20 11:39 am whoa
iBLAMEj00 13/01/20 11:39 am Yea
sam 13/01/20 11:39 am thats enough to cover all webmaster payments
alone
iBLAMEj00 13/01/20 11:40 am And Imagine if storerunner paid us =)
iBLAMEj00 13/01/20 11:40 am There are two things that Jerry said that are
rubbing people the wrong way.
iBLAMEj00 13/01/20 11:40 am One thing is the working on the site bit.
sam 13/01/20 11:40 am heheh i know :)
iBLAMEj00 13/01/20 11:40 am He's 100% right for 90% of the sites.
sam 13/01/20 11:40 am we anticipated it
sam 13/01/20 11:41 am whats the other thing
iBLAMEj00 13/01/20 11:41 am But some that actually work hard kinda pissed
them off.
iBLAMEj00 13/01/20 11:41 am Oh, the other thing was a misunderstanding.
sam 13/01/20 11:42 am he should have said 'we've created a welfare
state.. and we're going to abolish the New
Deal or the New Economy.. and back to hard
work now
iBLAMEj00 13/01/20 11:42 am A few believed that Jerry said we were going
to start paying people for unique visitors
instead of page views =)
iBLAMEj00 13/01/20 11:43 am That would be more like a 90% pay cut for most
sites =)
sam 13/01/20 11:43 am Chaka: (7:43 PM) anyhing neg? We should
inform them that we are aware of the group and
we want to remind them of the confidentiality
clause in our cntracts
iBLAMEj00 13/01/20 11:43 am When Jerry said "new contracts" some people
thought he meant new contracts that everyone
had to sign =)
iBLAMEj00 13/01/20 11:44 am If it's all with eFront webmasters, I don't
see the harm.
iBLAMEj00 13/01/20 11:44 am They are bitching a little, but nothing that's
a trade secret.
sam 13/01/20 11:45 am well i know its not about trade secret :)
iBLAMEj00 13/01/20 11:45 am Heh, actually, I think I could use it as a
great tool =)
iBLAMEj00 13/01/20 11:45 am To change some mindsets.
sam 13/01/20 11:46 am we should have more moles to do that .. :)
iBLAMEj00 13/01/20 11:46 am As long as everyone keeps it to the group, and
doesn't disclose things about their contract,
I don't see the harm in it.
iBLAMEj00 13/01/20 11:46 am What does Jerry think?
iBLAMEj00 13/01/20 11:47 am Confidentiality doesn't mean they can't bitch
about not being paid to other eFront
webmasters =)
sam 13/01/20 11:47 am yeah i dont really care.. as long as they help
us
iBLAMEj00 13/01/20 11:48 am On a different topic. Is Jerry black?
iBLAMEj00 13/01/20 11:48 am Maybe "black" isn't PC, but I don't live in
California =)
sam 13/01/20 11:48 am yep
iBLAMEj00 13/01/20 11:48 am Excellent.
sam 13/01/20 11:49 am Chaka: (7:48 PM) i see no prbs with it as long
as contract details r discussed...actually I
think it will help. Foster a sense of eFront
pride. If we could combine this current
activity with a webmaster summit in
person..the outcome would rock.
iBLAMEj00 13/01/20 11:49 am I thought so, not that it matters, just good
to know.
sam 13/01/20 11:49 am we want to invite all the webmasters to
california and have a summit when we have more
$$
sam 13/01/20 11:49 am eFront Webmasters Paintball Tourney :)
iBLAMEj00 13/01/20 11:49 am Heh, cool =)
iBLAMEj00 13/01/20 11:50 am Had any conversations with mame.dk?
sam 13/01/20 11:50 am no..havent talked to them.. i think g3 works
with them.. im trying to get out of talking to
webmasters and focus on getting us deals
sam 13/01/20 11:50 am and let g3 do the webmaster bit these days
iBLAMEj00 13/01/20 11:51 am People are really bitching about G3.
iBLAMEj00 13/01/20 11:51 am I told him that he needs to lay off a little
on the e-mails.
sam 13/01/20 11:51 am we should set aside 10% of srunner revenues to
a fund for a eFront Webmaster Summit (to pay
for it) along with a Paintball Tourney.. and
have a $"counteR" on efrontsupport.com seeing
how much we made..and how much more we need..
like the United Way campaign things
sam 13/01/20 11:52 am G3 is good :)
iBLAMEj00 13/01/20 11:52 am I think he has, at first he was sending out
too many and people were pissed, I think some
still are =)
iBLAMEj00 13/01/20 11:52 am Yea, like a big thermometer. =)
sam 13/01/20 11:53 am yeah.. so ppl will try harder .. so we can all
get together..
like 'the trek to Mecca'
hehe
iBLAMEj00 13/01/20 11:53 am Heh
iBLAMEj00 13/01/20 11:54 am They are giving some good ideas on the group.
sam 13/01/20 11:54 am g3 should be invited to the group
iBLAMEj00 13/01/20 11:54 am Heh, I don't think so =)
iBLAMEj00 13/01/20 11:54 am I'm not sure if I'm welcome.
sam 13/01/20 11:54 am so we can learn :) .. ideas go to waste then
heh
iBLAMEj00 13/01/20 11:54 am At least I'm a webmaster =)
sam 13/01/20 11:54 am heh ya
sam 13/01/20 11:55 am well drazen is too :) and brian etc. i think
brian subscribed as brian@bizbot.net :)
iBLAMEj00 13/01/20 11:55 am I'm waiting for the "You cock sucker! You
work for eFront. Get off our fucking group"
line.
sam 13/01/20 11:55 am these guys dont understand.. they cant
'leave'.. ever unless we kick them out no
matter what :)
sam 13/01/20 11:56 am even if we're late on payments for 5 months
sam 13/01/20 11:56 am (nto thatwe're going to be)
iBLAMEj00 13/01/20 11:56 am Heh
iBLAMEj00 13/01/20 11:56 am Actually, some can leave :/
sam 13/01/20 11:56 am who
sam 13/01/20 11:56 am or i mean how
iBLAMEj00 13/01/20 11:56 am mame.dk, toku, etc.
sam 13/01/20 11:56 am impossible :)
iBLAMEj00 13/01/20 11:57 am I think they own the domains.
sam 13/01/20 11:57 am not legally
sam 13/01/20 11:57 am nope
sam 13/01/20 11:57 am we wont make a payment until its transferred
in our name.. good idea
sam 13/01/20 11:57 am efront owns all domain names :)
iBLAMEj00 13/01/20 11:57 am Not leagally, but would be a hard sell if
there wasn't a payment =)
iBLAMEj00 13/01/20 11:57 am Yea, we should do that.
iBLAMEj00 13/01/20 11:58 am I've been telling you, Nate, Matt that for
months =)
sam 13/01/20 11:58 am yeah i know.. im not a techie .. i tell them
too..
iBLAMEj00 13/01/20 11:59 am I know leagally, but I bet it would be really
difficult to get mame.dk back if they pulled
the domain (just for one example that I'm
aware of).
iBLAMEj00 13/01/20 11:59 am Other sites are on their own servers and I'm
sure that others still are in control of their
domain.
sam 13/01/20 11:59 am well i dont care.. its just a dumb rom site..
we already have aah for that .. :)
iBLAMEj00 13/01/20 12:00 pm Heh
sam 13/01/20 12:00 pm we can acquire so easily right now for 50 cent
cpm
sam 13/01/20 12:00 pm its not even funny
iBLAMEj00 13/01/20 12:00 pm Yea, you're right, screw 'em.
sam 13/01/20 12:00 pm i wouldnt care if some of the sites do leave..
reduces our expenses:)
sam 13/01/20 12:00 pm at least we dont have to pay them
sam 13/01/20 12:00 pm i got this idea
iBLAMEj00 13/01/20 12:00 pm We should force a few to leave, lots of little
crappy sites.
sam 13/01/20 12:01 pm check this idea out
iBLAMEj00 13/01/20 12:01 pm Game Fusion for one.
sam 13/01/20 12:01 pm yeah he's a crybaby.. is he on there bitching
iBLAMEj00 13/01/20 12:01 pm All 1000 of his page views per day, we can't
lose those!!! =)
sam 13/01/20 12:02 pm i know :)
iBLAMEj00 13/01/20 12:02 pm If we could get rid of 10 sites like his, it
wouldn't hurt us at all (actually help us) and
get rid of a lot of trouble.
sam 13/01/20 12:02 pm well make a list and i'll do it
iBLAMEj00 13/01/20 12:03 pm I will, and I'll do it myself.
sam 13/01/20 12:03 pm hehe :)
sam 13/01/20 12:03 pm thats the efront warrior spirit:)
iBLAMEj00 13/01/20 12:03 pm Travis was funny, he didn't even want to talk
to me anymore after I was playing hard-ball
with him =)
sam 13/01/20 12:03 pm hehe
sam 13/01/20 12:04 pm is he causing trouble on the list :)
iBLAMEj00 13/01/20 12:04 pm He actually WANTED to talk to G3 after I got
done with him.
sam 13/01/20 12:04 pm heh
iBLAMEj00 13/01/20 12:04 pm I should get the quote.
iBLAMEj00 13/01/20 12:05 pm "I think I will talk to greg thank you."
iBLAMEj00 13/01/20 12:05 pm Hehe.
iBLAMEj00 13/01/20 12:05 pm Translation (fuck you)
sam 13/01/20 12:05 pm best way to get rid of ppl is to find quotes
from them in the list and get rid of them
because they breached the non-disclosure
clause :)
sam 13/01/20 12:05 pm hehe.. thats funny :)
iBLAMEj00 13/01/20 12:05 pm Heh, yea =)
sam 13/01/20 12:06 pm our contracts are nice huh.. real loose :)
sam 13/01/20 12:06 pm i wrote it :)
sam 13/01/20 12:06 pm w/o a lawyer :)
sam 13/01/20 12:06 pm you needed a lawyer even heh
iBLAMEj00 13/01/20 12:06 pm Heh
sam 13/01/20 12:06 pm hey check out careers.altavista.com
sam 13/01/20 12:06 pm see efront :)
iBLAMEj00 13/01/20 12:07 pm I'm just not totally stupid =)
sam 13/01/20 12:07 pm post that in the list.. "looks like jerry
wasn't bsing.. careers.altavista.com says
powered by efront careers.. maybe efront is
really intent on diversifying its revenue
streams.. lets all join in"
iBLAMEj00 13/01/20 12:09 pm They won't get it, I don't even get it =)
sam 13/01/20 12:09 pm heh.. but its impressive though huh :)
sam 13/01/20 12:10 pm we're going to do that on excite too
iBLAMEj00 13/01/20 12:18 pm We moving to s4r or colo.com?
sam 13/01/20 12:18 pm colo.com.. and s4r manages it
sam 13/01/20 12:18 pm s4r = managed services
iBLAMEj00 13/01/20 12:18 pm Ah, got it.
sam 13/01/20 12:19 pm so no more matt/nate dependancies :)
iBLAMEj00 13/01/20 12:19 pm Excellent =)
iBLAMEj00 13/01/20 12:20 pm But, can they really offer support, servers,
and bandwidth for $75k?
sam 13/01/20 12:20 pm they seem good so far :)
sam 13/01/20 12:20 pm retail was 150k.. we bargained :)
iBLAMEj00 13/01/20 12:20 pm Still, having 200 people asking questions all
day and night?
sam 13/01/20 12:21 pm hmhm .. i told nate to make sure all q's were
fwd to them.. i think Marc F. will be the
interace and the funnel.. and they will be
like the "back-end"
iBLAMEj00 13/01/20 12:45 pm They will be wishing that they charged $150k
=)
iBLAMEj00 13/01/20 12:45 pm Hey, I think I've converted the webmaster
group to a forum where people can exchange
ideas and techniques to deploy campaigns =)
sam 13/01/20 12:46 pm hey i got more ideas.. check this out:
sam 13/01/20 12:46 pm sam: (8:38 PM) Perhaps we can even do a
counter wehereby they can kind of see our
financials in one sense.. some bucket set
aside (% of whichever revenue source).. so
they an see how much we're accumulating for
their payments
sam 13/01/20 12:47 pm sam: (8:33 PM) so they know at any given time
how their payments will be for that month..so
they can try harder
sam: (8:38 PM) and they collectively try to
increase that to reach their payments each
month..
sam: (8:35 PM) i dont mean just srunner..
maybe another counter that lets them see how
much $ we're collecting in the webmaster
paymnet bucket
sam 13/01/20 12:47 pm i actually have no problem whatsoever sharing
financial information with anyone :)
sam 13/01/20 12:47 pm what do you think of that idea
iBLAMEj00 13/01/20 12:50 pm It may just be pointing out that we are paying
less than 100% for 6 months =)
sam 13/01/20 12:51 pm but that will motivate them to launch
campaigns
iBLAMEj00 13/01/20 12:51 pm eFront have 30 or 40 employees?
sam 13/01/20 12:51 pm and peer pressure will get them to deploy
campaigns and implore each other to deploy
campaigns :)
sam 13/01/20 12:51 pm 40
iBLAMEj00 13/01/20 12:51 pm Some are suggesting firing Greg so they can
get paid =)
iBLAMEj00 13/01/20 12:51 pm Heh, that at least is funny =)
sam 13/01/20 12:51 pm heh
sam 13/01/20 12:52 pm actually 30 in the office
sam 13/01/20 12:52 pm and 10 all over (florida guys.. jonathan roy,
etc. brian, etc. and ppl in europe)
sam 13/01/20 12:52 pm we dont have alot of ppl :)
iBLAMEj00 13/01/20 12:53 pm They don't see it that way. I'm trying to
make them aware that employee salary is far
less than webmaster payments.
sam 13/01/20 12:54 pm yeah.. and without employees.. there is noone
to do servers, and sales,
sam 13/01/20 12:58 pm dont tell the group.. but i want to change
all efront websites into one template :)
sam 13/01/20 12:58 pm they'll lynch me heh
iBLAMEj00 13/01/20 12:58 pm Heh
iBLAMEj00 13/01/20 12:58 pm Good luck with that one =)
sam 13/01/20 12:58 pm it'll happen :)
sam 13/01/20 12:59 pm we're talking with exem.net to buy them out
sam 13/01/20 12:59 pm they do content mgmt, optimization, etc.
iBLAMEj00 13/01/20 12:59 pm Yea, when monkey's fly out my butt =)
sam 13/01/20 1:00 pm if we buy them out.. then that'll be our s/w
arm.. and their first task would be to have a
uniform content mgmt sytem with one modular
template :) thats not a bad thing for efront
as a product :)
sam 13/01/20 1:00 pm you can still have the aah neon logo :)
sam 13/01/20 1:00 pm and same color scheme
iBLAMEj00 13/01/20 1:00 pm Heh
sam 13/01/20 1:00 pm ehehe
iBLAMEj00 13/01/20 1:00 pm You would lose a lot of content doing it I
think.
iBLAMEj00 13/01/20 1:01 pm Or sites would lose features.
sam 13/01/20 1:01 pm how so
iBLAMEj00 13/01/20 1:01 pm Heh
sam 13/01/20 1:01 pm the goal would be to do it so the sites dont
lose anything
sam 13/01/20 1:01 pm and no loss of content
sam 13/01/20 1:01 pm im sure its possible :)
iBLAMEj00 13/01/20 1:01 pm Heh
sam 13/01/20 1:01 pm and we dont need a webguide then!
sam 13/01/20 1:01 pm the entire site is a webguide
sam 13/01/20 1:02 pm ha ha
iBLAMEj00 13/01/20 1:02 pm Heh
iBLAMEj00 13/01/20 1:02 pm Well, it sounds good, but it's harder than it
sounds.
iBLAMEj00 13/01/20 1:02 pm A good example off the top of my head is how I
do downloads.
sam 13/01/20 1:02 pm i know.. thats why we'd never have matt and
nate do it
sam 13/01/20 1:02 pm but buy a company to do it :)
sam 13/01/20 1:02 pm yeah i know.. i was thinking bout downloads
and all that
sam 13/01/20 1:03 pm there's lot of clever ideas.. every site has
downloads really
sam 13/01/20 1:03 pm so use the best template/download idea there
is and make it modular everywhere for example
iBLAMEj00 13/01/20 1:03 pm But it's too custom for each site.
iBLAMEj00 13/01/20 1:03 pm I custom tweak my own back-end system daily.
sam 13/01/20 1:04 pm why do u do that
sam 13/01/20 1:04 pm for content?
sam 13/01/20 1:04 pm im sure you can still do that
iBLAMEj00 13/01/20 1:04 pm To make it better.
sam 13/01/20 1:04 pm if u need to though :)
sam 13/01/20 1:04 pm to make what better?
iBLAMEj00 13/01/20 1:04 pm The back-end system
sam 13/01/20 1:04 pm for what end-result
iBLAMEj00 13/01/20 1:04 pm And make the front-end better or have more
info.
sam 13/01/20 1:04 pm so its all for the frontend right
iBLAMEj00 13/01/20 1:05 pm Or ease of the backend.
iBLAMEj00 13/01/20 1:05 pm Lets take today for example.
sam 13/01/20 1:05 pm well check out exem.net what do u think about
their stuff.. (when u have a chance)
sam 13/01/20 1:05 pm give me some feedbakc.. those guys are coming
to visit us next wed/thurs for acq talks..
they're in seattle
iBLAMEj00 13/01/20 1:06 pm cais52 was getting overloaded, so I wrote a
back-end system that will look at the load on
the server and make adjustments so users will
use either ftp or http downloads depending on
the load. Every 5 minutes it modifieds the
load balancing.
iBLAMEj00 13/01/20 1:06 pm modifieds = modifies
iBLAMEj00 13/01/20 1:07 pm That's just one of 365 this year.
sam 13/01/20 1:07 pm well that wont be the case w/ a centralized
system.. u would never have to worry bout
loading issues :)
iBLAMEj00 13/01/20 1:07 pm And that balancing wouldn't be useful to
another site.
iBLAMEj00 13/01/20 1:07 pm It's just today's example.
iBLAMEj00 13/01/20 1:08 pm I've talked with many high profile companies
about site management and back-end systems.
sam 13/01/20 1:08 pm really
iBLAMEj00 13/01/20 1:08 pm We would pay a million dollars in cash for
one.
sam 13/01/20 1:08 pm ill have u talk to the guys from exem :)
iBLAMEj00 13/01/20 1:08 pm But none exist.
sam 13/01/20 1:08 pm who is we
sam 13/01/20 1:08 pm your company?
iBLAMEj00 13/01/20 1:08 pm Yea.
sam 13/01/20 1:08 pm maybe you can buy that from eFront
sam 13/01/20 1:08 pm when we buy exem :)
sam 13/01/20 1:09 pm recommend it :)
iBLAMEj00 13/01/20 1:09 pm Heh, sure.
sam 13/01/20 1:09 pm kickbacks :)
sam 13/01/20 1:09 pm seriously :)
iBLAMEj00 13/01/20 1:09 pm I wouldn't have a problem with it if it was
good.
sam 13/01/20 1:09 pm well check out exem.net and see what u think
i can get u tons more details and shti too
iBLAMEj00 13/01/20 1:09 pm But everything I see is not enough, or too
much and therefore too difficult to use.
iBLAMEj00 13/01/20 1:10 pm So we go with the custom route.
iBLAMEj00 13/01/20 1:17 pm exem.net looks like the same old shit that I
see at all these companies.
sam 13/01/20 1:17 pm heh
iBLAMEj00 13/01/20 1:17 pm I've met with like 10 of them.
sam 13/01/20 1:18 pm well ill get you on the phone with them.. you
can play the part of a 'typical webmaster' and
make life difficult on them heh
iBLAMEj00 13/01/20 1:20 pm Heh, no problem
sam 13/01/20 1:20 pm whats wrong with most of these companies?
iBLAMEj00 13/01/20 1:20 pm PERL, JAVA or C/C++ required. Knowledge of JSP
or ASP required
sam 13/01/20 1:20 pm btw, they want to do a pilot on 4 of our
sites.. ill recommend aah as one.. so we can
learn (not like we have to use it)
iBLAMEj00 13/01/20 1:21 pm I'll be their most difficult customer =)
sam 13/01/20 1:22 pm so if we announce we're using one design for
all websites (after we get their payments
caught up of course:) .. would the webmasters
go nuts :)
iBLAMEj00 13/01/20 1:22 pm The systems fall into two classifications. 1)
to simple 2) too complex/difficult to publish
anything.
sam 13/01/20 1:23 pm which one does this fall under it seems like..
iBLAMEj00 13/01/20 1:23 pm Somehow, I've already heard that eFront wanted
to use one design :/
iBLAMEj00 13/01/20 1:23 pm I haven't seen their product.
sam 13/01/20 1:23 pm post that on the egroup.. see what they say :)
sam 13/01/20 1:23 pm or probably dont wanna piss anyone off right
now heh :)
iBLAMEj00 13/01/20 1:23 pm To do everything, it has to be complex, most
complex systems are too difficult to use.
sam 13/01/20 1:24 pm so are you saying an ideal system doesnt exist
sam 13/01/20 1:24 pm and can't
iBLAMEj00 13/01/20 1:24 pm doesn't, but never say can't.
sam 13/01/20 1:25 pm i bet u can write one?
iBLAMEj00 13/01/20 1:25 pm I could, with enough time.
sam 13/01/20 1:26 pm when i was going over the notes w/ jerry.. i
said, remember startpath? heh.. i was like
lets make sure we avoid the mistakes they made
:)
iBLAMEj00 13/01/20 1:26 pm If you would see what we just spent $100k on
this month, you would want to do it yourself.
sam 13/01/20 1:26 pm in terms of communicating to the webmaters :)
sam 13/01/20 1:26 pm 100k geez
sam 13/01/20 1:26 pm url for ur company?
iBLAMEj00 13/01/20 1:26 pm It's just a menu system.
sam 13/01/20 1:27 pm probably top secret huh :)
iBLAMEj00 13/01/20 1:27 pm Yea, I don't give that out for damn good
reasons =)
iBLAMEj00 13/01/20 1:28 pm This is the company that we purchased the
system from:
http://girvin.com/
sam 13/01/20 1:28 pm cant get blackmailed :)
iBLAMEj00 13/01/20 1:28 pm Right, I'm not stupid.
sam 13/01/20 1:28 pm i tell u what company i work for though :)
iBLAMEj00 13/01/20 1:29 pm Heh
iBLAMEj00 13/01/20 1:29 pm On Girvin's site, go to the Portfolio link.
iBLAMEj00 13/01/20 1:29 pm Then do the mouse-overs on projects and case
studies.
iBLAMEj00 13/01/20 1:30 pm We paid $100k for the technology for those two
mouse overs.
iBLAMEj00 13/01/20 1:30 pm What a total waste of money.
sam 13/01/20 1:30 pm health industry
sam 13/01/20 1:30 pm 100k for that?
sam 13/01/20 1:30 pm geez
sam 13/01/20 1:30 pm thats just dhtml
iBLAMEj00 13/01/20 1:31 pm Yea, that was the simple path to a new
front-end to our public site.
iBLAMEj00 13/01/20 1:31 pm They wanted $200k to also put the content on
the 300 pages.
iBLAMEj00 13/01/20 1:31 pm Sorry, $200k total.
sam 13/01/20 1:32 pm yeah.. insane..
iBLAMEj00 13/01/20 1:32 pm It was our stupid marketing people.
iBLAMEj00 13/01/20 1:32 pm I told them that I could have done it for
free.
iBLAMEj00 13/01/20 1:32 pm They don't like me now =)
iBLAMEj00 13/01/20 1:33 pm could have used the mouse-overs that ml.com
uses on the left site.
sam 13/01/20 1:33 pm heh
iBLAMEj00 13/01/20 1:33 pm Loads faster, easier to use, and uses a pd
pop-up menu system.
sam 13/01/20 1:33 pm u must be exaggerating
iBLAMEj00 13/01/20 1:33 pm Nope, not at all.
iBLAMEj00 13/01/20 1:34 pm pd as in public domain (free)
iBLAMEj00 13/01/20 1:35 pm I love it when people don't like to hear the
truth.
sam 13/01/20 1:35 pm oh i thot it was 'pretty dumb' pd heh
sam 13/01/20 1:35 pm yeah
iBLAMEj00 13/01/20 1:35 pm I just tell them that I'm not here to make
friends.
iBLAMEj00 13/01/20 1:36 pm If I have zero professional friends, I've done
my job.
sam 13/01/20 1:36 pm heh
sam 13/01/20 1:37 pm do u actually go in the office
iBLAMEj00 13/01/20 1:37 pm Like twice a year.
sam 13/01/20 1:37 pm they let u get away with murder :)
sam 13/01/20 1:37 pm would they ever notice if u werent on the
payroll :)
iBLAMEj00 13/01/20 1:37 pm And usually I meet with companies about a
total site management system when I go in the
office.
iBLAMEj00 13/01/20 1:38 pm They need me.
iBLAMEj00 13/01/20 1:38 pm I have tenure.
sam 13/01/20 1:38 pm can eFront get the account :) we'll hire a few
programmers to do it.. side gig.. make $1mil,
spend 200k , 50k for your kickback :)
iBLAMEj00 13/01/20 1:38 pm Heh
sam 13/01/20 1:39 pm financing money heh
iBLAMEj00 13/01/20 1:39 pm Bigger job than it sounds.
iBLAMEj00 13/01/20 1:40 pm Some of these companies that we've talked to
spent $10 million+ on their product.
sam 13/01/20 1:40 pm oops cost overrunn..sorry, u gotta pay more...
oh dont want to? oh well. . it aint gonna get
done .. hold them hostage:)
sam 13/01/20 1:40 pm geez
sam 13/01/20 1:40 pm does vignette suck?
iBLAMEj00 13/01/20 1:41 pm Don't know them. Hey, they got the free menus
on their site, I bet they didn't pay $100k for
those.
iBLAMEj00 13/01/20 1:43 pm Oh wait, I do know them.
iBLAMEj00 13/01/20 1:44 pm As I recall, they use the complex route. Very
expensive.
sam 13/01/20 1:44 pm yeah
sam 13/01/20 1:44 pm i was able to negotiate them down to 400k
sam 13/01/20 1:44 pm 2 months ago :)
sam 13/01/20 1:44 pm pretty good huh?
sam 13/01/20 1:44 pm for all of efront too
iBLAMEj00 13/01/20 1:45 pm You would have had a hard time with them.
iBLAMEj00 13/01/20 1:45 pm You know the way those products work?
sam 13/01/20 1:45 pm yeah.. thats why i didnt do it
sam 13/01/20 1:46 pm they MILK you
iBLAMEj00 13/01/20 1:46 pm They are really designed for a cnn.com type
site.
iBLAMEj00 13/01/20 1:46 pm Where there's a lot of people posting
articles/images.
sam 13/01/20 1:46 pm i know.. thats why i said efront.com .. one
template
sam 13/01/20 1:46 pm well thats true too
sam 13/01/20 1:47 pm only reason to get a content mgmt system is if
we get one
sam 13/01/20 1:47 pm template for all
iBLAMEj00 13/01/20 1:47 pm and there's an approval process.
sam 13/01/20 1:47 pm yeah i know .. not a bad idea.. so our webbies
dont post crap :)
iBLAMEj00 13/01/20 1:47 pm Heh
iBLAMEj00 13/01/20 1:48 pm It's good for sites that have 100 publishers,
each doing maybe one cell per day.
iBLAMEj00 13/01/20 1:48 pm Like the cnn example.
iBLAMEj00 13/01/20 1:48 pm drspock.com is another example.
iBLAMEj00 13/01/20 1:49 pm cnn is just a bunch of news posts, the
organization is very thin.
iBLAMEj00 13/01/20 1:49 pm "thin site" type stuff.
iBLAMEj00 13/01/20 2:16 pm E.g., Making all the sites wear the same
uniform will not necessarily increase traffic,
and may in fact decrease it.
iBLAMEj00 13/01/20 2:16 pm Where are people getting this information that
we may be going with a standard look?
iBLAMEj00 13/01/20 2:16 pm Maybe it's better if they hear little bits
about it here and there =)
sam 13/01/20 5:40 pm incrasing traffic is not a good thing..
monetizing traffic is :)
sam 13/01/20 5:41 pm yes its better:)
iBLAMEj00 13/01/20 11:58 pm What if we would look at each site's uniques
and redo the contracts to be based on uniques
but they would be at the same level as they
are now.
iBLAMEj00 14/01/20 12:00 am Those sites that have a huge number of page
views per unique we could correct those issues
as well.
iBLAMEj00 14/01/20 12:02 am I'm not saying 100 new contracts, get rid of
the small shitty sites, get new contracts for
the larger sites, and then look at the others
on a case by case basis.
iBLAMEj00 14/01/20 12:04 am Or, instead of getting a loan, get a loan with
the webmasters by redoing their contract,
extending the length, reducing the amount per
month, but slightly increasing the amount over
the term of the contract. You could look at
each one, and do a 5% interest calculation and
extend it by one year.
iBLAMEj00 14/01/20 12:07 am That way, you would reduce monthly payments,
change payments to be based on uniques, and
get a 5% loan.
sam 14/01/20 1:16 am sure.. would they go for it
iBLAMEj00 14/01/20 1:16 am I'll send you a few spreadsheets that give an
example. We should acutally do deals like the
spreadsheet shows. Where we state a purchase
price, interest rate, and monthly payments.
Therefore, it's legal tax-wise.
sam 14/01/20 1:16 am sounds great
iBLAMEj00 14/01/20 1:19 am Sent
iBLAMEj00 14/01/20 1:20 am You can change the payment amounts,
extend/shorten the contract, etc.
iBLAMEj00 14/01/20 1:20 am Even remove payments for months at a time =)
sam 14/01/20 1:21 am also, all future contracts will be one year
only
i did the first 25 acquisitions.. they are all
1 year contracts.. half have expired.. and
another half will be expiring in february
sam 14/01/20 1:21 am so we'll own those sites wholly.. people never
complained from 1 year to 3 year
sam 14/01/20 1:22 am it was changed to 3 year because we didnt want
to 'lose' webmaster i suppose..i wasnt really
in favor of it
sam 14/01/20 1:22 am so its clear we're going to make allnew
contracts one yera (like future ones)
sam 14/01/20 1:22 am noone will complain about that
sam 14/01/20 1:23 am payment based on daily uniques + one year
contract + average payment = 50 cent ..s hould
help alot
sam 14/01/20 1:23 am thats why i dont mind kicking the whiners out
sam 14/01/20 1:23 am all the webmasters have it made with these
contracts that are 3 years.. they lock in
guarantees for 3 years.. thats huge
sam 14/01/20 1:23 am im kicking out teenstation for example
sam 14/01/20 1:24 am ialready kicked out sitepowerup, greetz,
startmp3
iBLAMEj00 14/01/20 1:24 am And their 30 page views per unique? =)
iBLAMEj00 14/01/20 1:24 am penny-arcade.
sam 14/01/20 1:24 am yes.. they said they wanted 3 months
severenace pay.. cuz we popped them
sam 14/01/20 1:24 am yeah.. we need to make a thorough list and
kick em out
sam 14/01/20 1:25 am and alsowe have 12 sites that are ending their
contrats soon..and we'll have one webmaster
run all the sites
sam 14/01/20 1:25 am we'll be cutting our cost by 100k i think..
(from 325k right now)
sam 14/01/20 1:26 am i'd like our toal cost to be 500k.. right now,
employees its 160k.. webmasters 325k..
building/rent/benefits/phone/etc. 100k..
pillsbury has been around 40k (we're reducing
that also) and misc about 50k
sam 14/01/20 1:27 am actually with consultants in europe and ppl
who run websites for us and all that.. and
nate's helpers and all that.. consultants are
about 25-30k too
iBLAMEj00 14/01/20 1:27 am Don't forget the $30k/month Tim Eckel fund =)
sam 14/01/20 1:27 am it all ads up.. our total cost is 750k
sam 14/01/20 1:27 am yeah :)
sam 14/01/20 1:27 am so im going to reduce it to 500k
sam 14/01/20 1:28 am and need to increase revenues to 1 mil.. so we
have 500k cash we throw in the bank every
month for a few months
sam 14/01/20 1:28 am thats the goal .. and build a reserve :)
sam 14/01/20 1:28 am i already cut like 3 employees recently
iBLAMEj00 14/01/20 1:29 am I think the webmasters need to know that.
sam 14/01/20 1:29 am yeahi know.. but dont want to make it seem
like we'r5e laying every1 off.. wrong msg
sam 14/01/20 1:29 am and i cut them for good reason
sam 14/01/20 1:29 am the fuse is short
sam 14/01/20 1:30 am one was screwing around.. he sent an email to
like 20 webmasters saying he's director of
network traffic @ efront and he wants them to
swap links with him on his new side gig
nothing to do with efront
iBLAMEj00 14/01/20 1:30 am Well, webmasters are getting the impression
that employees are all getting paid, you are
hiring new people, yet they are not getting
paid at all.
sam 14/01/20 1:30 am one wasnt really doing anything..
iBLAMEj00 14/01/20 1:31 am I think telling them that you cut some fat
will make them feel better about not getting
paid.
sam 14/01/20 1:31 am yeah maybe we'll have that in the new letter
we send them
sam 14/01/20 1:31 am and maybe talk about what we're doing to
restructure the comany as well
iBLAMEj00 14/01/20 1:32 am Also, there's some confusion about the 30/40
employee count.
sam 14/01/20 1:32 am like efront willbe organized into 5 SBUs
(strategic business unit)
iBLAMEj00 14/01/20 1:32 am Sec, plumber's here. BRB
iBLAMEj00 14/01/20 1:51 am Anyway, making contract adjustments may be
helpful.
iBLAMEj00 14/01/20 1:51 am I think many sites wouldn't have a problem
switching to a unique visitor base
sam 14/01/20 1:52 am really.. so overall the stuff on
egroups/general feeling is okay?
sam 14/01/20 1:52 am just a wait and see attitude?
iBLAMEj00 14/01/20 1:52 am Yea, and I'm using the list to push campaigns
also =)
iBLAMEj00 14/01/20 1:53 am Lots of people wanted more technical
information about storerunner.
iBLAMEj00 14/01/20 1:53 am I gave them scripts, and have set a few up
with access to see their reports.
sam 14/01/20 1:53 am nice
iBLAMEj00 14/01/20 1:54 am With Greg, they kind of feel that he's not
techincal, and therefore can't help them
deploy a campaign.
sam 14/01/20 1:54 am greg needs a technical sidekick huh
iBLAMEj00 14/01/20 1:54 am They see it as a "just do it" attitude and
they don't get any hints, tips, reports, etc.
iBLAMEj00 14/01/20 1:55 am I've only had one person question my position
(meaning eFront management or webmaster).
sam 14/01/20 1:56 am yeah thats true
sam 14/01/20 1:56 am heh.. so how many ppl on the list? alot
iBLAMEj00 14/01/20 1:56 am One guy was bitching about his contract and I
replied "So the contract sucks, yet your
attorney approved it and you signed it?" =)
sam 14/01/20 1:56 am heh
iBLAMEj00 14/01/20 1:57 am There's not a ton of people on it, but over
the last day they are passing the list around
to everyone to join.
iBLAMEj00 14/01/20 1:57 am I think it could be a great thing.
sam 14/01/20 1:57 am yeah
iBLAMEj00 14/01/20 1:58 am Even if some bitch, communication will be good
for eFront.
sam 14/01/20 1:58 am yeah. eventually i'd like to get G3 on the
list.. that develops trust :)
iBLAMEj00 14/01/20 2:00 am Lots of people are bitching that G3 doesn't
reply to them :/
iBLAMEj00 14/01/20 2:00 am Maybe I'm the only one who replies to people?
sam 14/01/20 2:02 am really..
sam 14/01/20 2:03 am suggest that efront webmaster relations
coordinator be invitd to the list
sam 14/01/20 2:03 am so they can reply to people and open a
dialogue
sam 14/01/20 2:03 am because it does no good to vent without efront
hearing it
iBLAMEj00 14/01/20 2:03 am No kidding.
iBLAMEj00 14/01/20 2:04 am Has anyone not been paid for 4 months?
sam 14/01/20 2:04 am no way
iBLAMEj00 14/01/20 2:04 am They are using that as their calling cry.
sam 14/01/20 2:04 am its penny arcade people ithink
iBLAMEj00 14/01/20 2:04 am So right now, the most is 1 1/2 months?
sam 14/01/20 2:04 am we're only 12 days behind
sam 14/01/20 2:04 am yes most is 1.5 mos
sam 14/01/20 2:04 am 4 months.. geez :) that was in the summer
iBLAMEj00 14/01/20 2:19 am I posted a message that that 4 month number is
bs.
iBLAMEj00 14/01/20 2:19 am Someone started a list poll "Are you staying
with eFront?"
sam 14/01/20 2:20 am they dont have a chocie :)
sam 14/01/20 2:20 am i wouldnt mind if half them leave
iBLAMEj00 14/01/20 2:20 am Are you staying with eFront?
No, I am in the process of leaving
I will stick around till Feb 19th to see what
happens. If no money is paid, then I will
leave.
I will stick around as long as it takes (Or
if / when eFront goes out of business)
No, I have already left
sam 14/01/20 2:23 am tell them that the market is bad out there..20
cent cpm if they cn get it :)
sam 14/01/20 2:23 am i think all run of network ad companies will
go away..
sam 14/01/20 2:23 am way toomuch supply
iBLAMEj00 14/01/20 2:35 am 9 people have voted, but I can't see the
results till he ends the poll.
sam 14/01/20 4:31 am http://www.careerjournal.com/myc/management/20
10111-lublin.html
sam 14/01/20 4:32 am One, in Chrysler's case, if we didn't get the
financing solved, the factories would stop and
nobody would get anything. So there was a
reason to continue to provide financial
support and keep that entity going
sam 14/01/20 4:33 am we need to tell that to the webmasters.. if we
dont continue to bring in revenues, then there
wont be any money, the payments would stop,
and nobody would get anything..so there is ar
eson to continue to provide deployment support
for revenue projects to keep the entity going.
iBLAMEj00 14/01/20 4:39 am Yea, if someone brings it up again (which I'm
sure they will) I'll send that message.
sam 14/01/20 5:13 am hey do u know the number for cais? trying to
get cais27 and cais28 rebooted.. megagames.com
seems down
iBLAMEj00 14/01/20 5:21 am Probably the resync.
iBLAMEj00 14/01/20 5:21 am (888)224-7662
sam 14/01/20 5:22 am ya i found it :)
sam 14/01/20 5:22 am www.arstechnica.com
sam 14/01/20 5:22 am SA is whining:)
iBLAMEj00 14/01/20 5:26 am SA?
sam 14/01/20 5:26 am somethingawful.com
iBLAMEj00 14/01/20 5:29 am Well, now we can just kick his ass out because
he leaked information to the public =)
Problem solved.
iBLAMEj00 14/01/20 5:31 am He's going to close the site anyway, so that
will make it easy to have someone else run it
=)
sam 14/01/20 5:31 am heh yeah
sam 14/01/20 5:31 am unless he is the site
iBLAMEj00 14/01/20 5:31 am Heh, yea, kinda true.
sam 14/01/20 5:31 am i guess its acommunity type of site :)
sam 14/01/20 5:31 am he hasnt put srunner links or anything either
iBLAMEj00 14/01/20 5:33 am It's the old Union mindset. Try to screw your
employeer and then bitch when they lay you off
and wonder how they fucked it up so badly.
sam 14/01/20 5:33 am heh ya
sam 14/01/20 6:33 am having fun with the egroups :)
iBLAMEj00 14/01/20 6:40 am Oh yea =)
sam 14/01/20 6:40 am Will Bryant is saying youy're getting beaten
up heh
iBLAMEj00 14/01/20 6:40 am Heh, not really.
sam 14/01/20 6:41 am bryant (ICQ#586491) Wrote:
Tim Eckles is taking a beating in the closed
discussion groups though. Gotta love the guy,
he's going toe to toe with people and trying
to bring them down.
iBLAMEj00 14/01/20 6:41 am Penny Arcade is trying to be funny, but I can
beat him in that arena also.
sam 14/01/20 6:41 am lol
sam 14/01/20 6:41 am wanna see a letter he sent us?
sam 14/01/20 6:41 am he asked for it
iBLAMEj00 14/01/20 6:42 am You need to make sure his exit contract says
that he can't say shit about eFront.
iBLAMEj00 14/01/20 6:42 am He's already setting people up with a method
to leave, basically remove all ads and don't
do anything.
sam 14/01/20 6:42 am will do
sam 14/01/20 6:42 am good.. that means we dont have to pay ppl :)
iBLAMEj00 14/01/20 6:42 am Yea, I wanna see the letter =)
iBLAMEj00 14/01/20 6:43 am No, they will keep just to top of page ad =)
iBLAMEj00 14/01/20 6:43 am Remove all others =)
sam 14/01/20 6:43 am they dont get paid then :)
iBLAMEj00 14/01/20 6:43 am Heh
sam 14/01/20 6:43 am they're violating the 'update and service the
website' part of the agreement
iBLAMEj00 14/01/20 6:43 am I know, but we don't want to deal with that
times 100 =)
sam 14/01/20 6:44 am yeah i kow.. also, i dont think these guys
realize how bad it is out there
sam 14/01/20 6:44 am theyr're on a welfare system.. spoild
sam 14/01/20 6:44 am i dare them to survive out there on their own
:)
iBLAMEj00 14/01/20 6:44 am Several people on the list are making it clear
how bad it is out there.
iBLAMEj00 14/01/20 6:45 am Some thought that this was just the normal
January slowdown.
iBLAMEj00 14/01/20 6:45 am Till I told them it happened in December and
those payments were from 60 days prior (peak
time).
sam 14/01/20 6:46 am tell them to look at the stock market.. all
the internet companies have lost 95% of their
value
sam 14/01/20 6:47 am which banner company will these people go
with?
iBLAMEj00 14/01/20 6:47 am "and how will that get me paid?" (some will
ask) =)
iBLAMEj00 14/01/20 6:47 am I told them to talk to someone that's using
flycast and ask what they made per CPM.
iBLAMEj00 14/01/20 6:47 am If you talk to flycast, they will still tell
you $1-$4/CPM.
sam 14/01/20 6:47 am pur srunnerlinks up and cooperate 100%.. if
efront says jump, ask how high..
at least it'll remove one barrier to success
for all of us
[tellthem that]
sam 14/01/20 6:48 am yeah.. flycast islike um 15 cent net cpm.. and
90% default
iBLAMEj00 14/01/20 6:48 am Right, they pay $1-4, but 90% default and not
enough inventory.
sam 14/01/20 6:49 am otherwise we'd use flycast ourselves:)
sam 14/01/20 6:49 am and they arent accepting anyone.. i had soeone
signup all our sites 2 weeks ago and they
declined them all
iBLAMEj00 14/01/20 6:50 am Yea, why would the accept anyone when they
can't fill the views they have now?
sam 14/01/20 6:50 am yeah..basically they need to know that we're
their last hope to be an indepdant publisher
on the net
sam 14/01/20 6:50 am there are no other choices.. so they need to
all pitch in..
iBLAMEj00 14/01/20 6:50 am Doesn't Jennifer run babynames?
sam 14/01/20 6:50 am yeah
iBLAMEj00 14/01/20 6:51 am I can tell she's feeling the pressure.
sam 14/01/20 6:51 am how so
iBLAMEj00 14/01/20 6:52 am Just financial pressure.
sam 14/01/20 6:52 am yeah.. i know we're going to try to send
something to someof the webmasters soon..
sam 14/01/20 6:52 am like lowtax,harsha (megagames..he says he has
40 bucks in his bank left) also
sam 14/01/20 6:52 am he was getting 30k/month for the past 8 months
sam 14/01/20 6:52 am i cant believe people blow their wad like that
iBLAMEj00 14/01/20 6:52 am Heh, harsha?
sam 14/01/20 6:53 am he does like 40 million pageviews a montha
nd250k users a day as u know
sam 14/01/20 6:53 am so im going to try to send him something next
week so his car doesnt get repossesed or
something
sam 14/01/20 6:53 am they need to learn how to save:)
sam 14/01/20 6:54 am its scary how manyppl in the country live on
paycheck to paycheck
sam 14/01/20 6:54 am if there's a depression, its going to be a
Killer
sam 14/01/20 6:54 am worse than 1929
sam 14/01/20 6:57 am i sent u the stuff from pennyarcade guys..
basically they refused to cooperate
sam 14/01/20 6:57 am you should post someof that letter
sam 14/01/20 6:57 am and show their failure to coopreate
sam 14/01/20 6:58 am and its attitudes like that thats killing us..
that the bannermarket is dead and its
impossible to derive incomefrom the banner
tehse days
iBLAMEj00 14/01/20 7:08 am Heh, the Penny Arcade contract kinda is a
lease anyway.
iBLAMEj00 14/01/20 7:08 am At the end of the contract, they can get the
site back anyway.
sam 14/01/20 7:08 am it was a real contract.. but they bitched and
moaned for 5 months
sam 14/01/20 7:08 am and jonathan felt sorry for them
sam 14/01/20 7:09 am so he convinced ustoredo the contract
iBLAMEj00 14/01/20 7:09 am If we are not making $6k or whatever they are
making per month off the site, then give it
back to them.
sam 14/01/20 7:09 am i dont care.. becaues they refused to
cooperate, we're giving it back to them
sam 14/01/20 7:09 am we already told themthey can have it back
sam 14/01/20 7:09 am so its really a nonissue.. i dont know what
theyre complaining about
iBLAMEj00 14/01/20 7:10 am They are getting $2.40/CPM from eFront, if
they want to leave it soulds like a win for
us.
sam 14/01/20 7:10 am yep
iBLAMEj00 14/01/20 7:11 am Tell them that in exchange for doing them a
favor, they need to sign an agreement to not
discuss eFront matters or they will be held
liable.
sam 14/01/20 7:11 am oh of course.. thats part of it
iBLAMEj00 14/01/20 7:12 am They are just stupid enough to sign it.
sam 14/01/20 7:12 am not only that but whatever we owe them, we're
even
sam 14/01/20 7:12 am they already agreed to that
iBLAMEj00 14/01/20 7:12 am Heh, it was funny, he said that 4 lawers
called them idiots.
sam 14/01/20 7:12 am and if they make any public statements about
efront, they are liable for $1 mil
sam 14/01/20 7:12 am calld them idiots? heh
iBLAMEj00 14/01/20 7:13 am Yea, they said one attorney laughed at them =)
iBLAMEj00 14/01/20 7:13 am Some sites think that someone held a gun to
their head and forced them to sign the
contract.
sam 14/01/20 7:13 am heh ya right
iBLAMEj00 14/01/20 7:13 am Like they are victims.
iBLAMEj00 14/01/20 7:14 am I told PA that he sounds like OJ
sam 14/01/20 7:14 am lol
iBLAMEj00 14/01/20 7:14 am PA is just a victim.
iBLAMEj00 14/01/20 7:14 am "the glove didn't fit!"
iBLAMEj00 14/01/20 7:14 am Gotta eat dinner.
iBLAMEj00 14/01/20 7:14 am bbl
sam 14/01/20 7:15 am hehe
iBLAMEj00 14/01/20 7:15 am Cold beans and hot dogs because of non-payment
of eFront =)
sam 14/01/20 7:15 am heh.. hey im eating left over pizza with no
cheese
sam 14/01/20 7:15 am cuz nonpayment from efront also :
0
iBLAMEj00 14/01/20 7:15 am heh, you deserve it! =)
iBLAMEj00 14/01/20 7:16 am Because of your EVIL contract that you forced
people to sign! =)
sam 14/01/20 7:16 am heh.. so its all about the contract now :)..
they didnt complain in good times:)
sam 14/01/20 7:16 am tell them to get a real job
sam 14/01/20 7:16 am mcdonalds or something :)
iBLAMEj00 14/01/20 7:17 am Heh, just a few are bitching, most are not
using the victim aproach.
sam 14/01/20 7:17 am make a list of all and we'll kick out the ones
who are bitching .. seriously.. lets kick them
out today
sam 14/01/20 7:17 am screw 'em :)
iBLAMEj00 14/01/20 7:17 am Several have defended me that they signed it,
so it's their fault.
iBLAMEj00 14/01/20 7:17 am Heh
iBLAMEj00 14/01/20 7:18 am PA is really the only one making a stink.
sam 14/01/20 7:18 am well im shutting him up in 2 hours
iBLAMEj00 14/01/20 7:18 am Get him to sign the agreement and we'll kick
him off the list =)
sam 14/01/20 7:18 am if they dont sign by midnight tonight,
sam 14/01/20 7:18 am we're taking this offer away :)
iBLAMEj00 14/01/20 7:18 am heh
sam 14/01/20 7:19 am as a condition, we'll also say they cant post
anything in public or privte
sam 14/01/20 7:20 am and remove themselves from the egroups list :)
sam 14/01/20 8:04 am talking about evil contract, the one i sent
you is EVIL :)
sam 14/01/20 8:20 am sam: (4:11 PM) sam: (4:10 PM)
http://news.cnet.com/news/0-1015-205-3953524.h
ml?tag=st.ne.1015.rmror.1015-205-3953524
sam: (4:11 PM) look at the ad
sam: (4:11 PM) cnet experimenting with
non-banner ads:)
sam: (4:11 PM) we wont be able to do that
without a unified backend
am: (4:18 PM)
http://news.cnet.com/news/0-1015.html?tag=st.n
.1003.dir.1015
sam: (4:18 PM) another example.. the
skyscraper is on the left.. it lookslike
changing thepositino of the ads frequently
(like a magazine layout) would probably get
great results and make online advertising
effective
iBLAMEj00 14/01/20 8:27 am That's kind of like what I'm doing with
StoreRunner.
iBLAMEj00 14/01/20 8:28 am Changing placement works great.
sam 14/01/20 8:28 am yeah i thoguth about that
sam 14/01/20 8:28 am exactly
sam 14/01/20 8:28 am imagine doing that with banner and other types
of ads
sam 14/01/20 8:28 am that would reduce blind spots
iBLAMEj00 14/01/20 8:29 am Or this kind of ad (the floating one)
iBLAMEj00 14/01/20 8:29 am http://www.spacesurfer.com/wceleb/entrance.htm
iBLAMEj00 14/01/20 8:29 am Always on the bottom right (highest click rate
position).
sam 14/01/20 8:30 am we should put all our bottom ads like that!
iBLAMEj00 14/01/20 8:30 am Yea, that will get more people to want to quit
=)
sam 14/01/20 8:31 am at least they would blame you for that idea:)
iBLAMEj00 14/01/20 8:31 am Heh, sure, I can take the blame.
sam 14/01/20 8:31 am thats your name :0
sam 14/01/20 8:34 am imagine floating srunner links and xdrive and
alll our banners on all our websites at the
same time:)
sam 14/01/20 8:35 am maybe show that banner on the egroups forum..
and say you herad a rumor that efront is
planning to change the botto position of the
banner to behave like that :)
iBLAMEj00 14/01/20 8:35 am Heh
iBLAMEj00 14/01/20 8:38 am Done.
sam 14/01/20 8:38 am did you see the PA contract.. evil :)
iBLAMEj00 14/01/20 8:39 am Heh, yea. =) Let me know when he signs it and
I'll post some shit about them and see if they
reply so them we can get them for $100k =)
iBLAMEj00 14/01/20 8:39 am Now that's evil.
sam 14/01/20 8:39 am hehe :)
iBLAMEj00 14/01/20 8:39 am bbl
iBLAMEj00 14/01/20 2:25 pm Yo, slacker. You there?
iBLAMEj00 14/01/20 2:31 pm If speedyclick isn't paying us, take their ad
off the Great Deals section!
iBLAMEj00 14/01/20 2:32 pm Got an idea on the StoreRunner section of the
Web Guide.
iBLAMEj00 14/01/20 2:32 pm Instead of showing three ads with the super
small images and super small description, show
a single larger ad and larger text.
iBLAMEj00 14/01/20 2:35 pm And before you say that we can't do it, just
do this modification:
http://images.storerunner.com/incontext/efront
5/32/3/5320385.jpg
http://images.storerunner.com/thumbnails/5/32/
/5320385.jpg
If we don't have code to get the image size,
have the nightly script get that information
when it gets the new product feed.
sam 15/01/20 12:21 am sounds like a good idea.. we can do it
sam 15/01/20 2:57 am sam: (10:51 AM) i wonder if we can offer an
option.. $X to access all efront sites w/ no
ads
sam: (10:52 AM) actually no 468x60 banner and
interstitial ads
sam: (10:53 AM) even if 5k users sign up..
thats 5*5 = 25k/month.. and its not a forced
option.. and would give us tons of publiclity
iBLAMEj00 15/01/20 2:59 am There would be a ton of people that would just
share access :(
sam 15/01/20 3:00 am we can cookie
iBLAMEj00 15/01/20 3:00 am That don't work either.
iBLAMEj00 15/01/20 3:00 am Can be shared and then it won't work from
multiple machines.
sam 15/01/20 3:00 am they just have to log in
sam 15/01/20 3:01 am and they cant have multiple machines accessing
it at once
sam 15/01/20 3:02 am James Reno: (11:01 AM) charge more
sam: (11:01 AM) would it work
James Reno: (11:01 AM) i can get 5$month out
of bytecenter just itself
James Reno: (11:02 AM) it would take a lot to
do it.. but yes it can work
sam: (11:02 AM) would ppl sign up
iBLAMEj00 15/01/20 3:02 am Making it fool-proof is difficult. Timeouts
and other things need to be factored.
iBLAMEj00 15/01/20 4:21 am cais3 took the big dirt nap.
sam 15/01/20 4:22 am really. does nate know
iBLAMEj00 15/01/20 4:22 am I messaged him, but he's not on-line. Maybe
I'll call him on his cell, I'm sure he loves
that =)
iBLAMEj00 15/01/20 4:24 am Heh, cell's off also =)
iBLAMEj00 15/01/20 4:27 am I think the resync finally killed the hard
drive =)
iBLAMEj00 15/01/20 4:29 am CAIS said the drive light was solid red. He
sounded like that was bad =)
iBLAMEj00 15/01/20 4:29 am Whoo Hoo! It's back up =) That was close.
sam 15/01/20 4:30 am weird
iBLAMEj00 15/01/20 4:30 am They rebooted it a second time.
iBLAMEj00 15/01/20 11:41 pm Hey, did those puss-bags at Penny-Arcade sign
that contract?
sam 15/01/20 11:41 pm they're supposed to.. stupid roy tried to go
easy on them..
iBLAMEj00 15/01/20 11:41 pm I'll kill Roy for you.
sam 15/01/20 11:41 pm cuz he wears their t0shirt or something
sam 15/01/20 11:41 pm their shit isnt even funny :)
iBLAMEj00 15/01/20 11:41 pm I know.
iBLAMEj00 15/01/20 11:42 pm I posted to my site a few years ago that their
comic wasn't funny =)
iBLAMEj00 15/01/20 11:43 pm December 13th, 1999
Is Penny Arcade Funny?
Check out this comic: Penny Arcade: The
Longest Line, then place your vote: Is Penny
Arcade Funny?. Maybe it's just me, but on my
funny scale, this comic is about a 1 (10 being
the best). Hopefully, this poll will tell me
if it's only me that finds little humor in
this. Thanks to atila for the link.
iBLAMEj00 15/01/20 11:43 pm This was the comic:
http://www.penny-arcade.com/line.shtml
sam 15/01/20 11:43 pm yeah..they're idiots
iBLAMEj00 15/01/20 11:44 pm Here are the poll results:
Is Penny Arcade funny?
36.02% (192) Not only is it not funny, it's
stupid
24.20% (129) "I couldn't stop laughing for a
few minutes"
21.20% (113) I stare at them with a blank
expression
18.57% (99) I chuckled once, I think
Total Votes: 533
iBLAMEj00 15/01/20 11:45 pm Heh, 36% said it's not funny, 21% stare at
them, and 19% cluckled once, they think =)
sam 15/01/20 11:45 pm heh
iBLAMEj00 15/01/20 11:45 pm You can vote also:
http://arcadeathome.efront.com/cgi-bin/pollpen
y.pl
iBLAMEj00 15/01/20 11:45 pm Heh
iBLAMEj00 15/01/20 11:46 pm But, did the contract say that they couldn't
talk about eFront?
sam 15/01/20 11:46 pm yyeah
iBLAMEj00 15/01/20 11:47 pm Okay, that's cool. I wondered why their punk
asses were so quiet =)
sam 15/01/20 11:47 pm yeah.. basically i told roy to tell them that
if they so much as murmur a word anymore, they
will be held hostage and locked down in
corporate oppression for ever and PA would be
dead:)
iBLAMEj00 15/01/20 11:49 pm Heh, you voted =)
iBLAMEj00 15/01/20 11:49 pm Now I've got your IP address and I'll hack
you.
iBLAMEj00 15/01/20 11:49 pm Ph33r!
sam 15/01/20 11:50 pm heh
sam 16/01/20 12:08 am www.riva3d.com
matt is putting it live right now.. if u have
suggestions, give to him:)
iBLAMEj00 16/01/20 12:09 am Putting what live?
iBLAMEj00 16/01/20 12:10 am Ah, the GoTo thing?
sam 16/01/20 12:10 am goto.com sidebar
iBLAMEj00 16/01/20 12:10 am Coolies, is it targeted for each site?
iBLAMEj00 16/01/20 12:10 am Or can we specify the keywords?
sam 16/01/20 12:12 am not sure.. can u work w/ matt
sam 16/01/20 12:12 am if he ever responds to u:)
iBLAMEj00 16/01/20 12:23 am Heh, I've been talking to him this morning.
iBLAMEj00 16/01/20 12:32 am You know, adding the cost to the advertiser
may make the link seem more legit and get a
higher click-thru rate.
sam 16/01/20 12:32 am sure try it
iBLAMEj00 16/01/20 12:39 am If a unified design for all sites looked like
Ugo's, I'd kill myself.
sam 16/01/20 10:31 am hows everything going.. just got hom for a
hecticday @ the office:)
iBLAMEj00 16/01/20 10:31 am Good here.
sam 16/01/20 10:31 am hows the warfront
iBLAMEj00 16/01/20 10:31 am Much better today.
sam 16/01/20 10:32 am things starting to calm down huh
iBLAMEj00 16/01/20 10:32 am People starting to settle in.
sam 16/01/20 10:32 am good.. when are you coming for e3.. you should
come visit the office :)
iBLAMEj00 16/01/20 10:33 am Coming for E3? Heh...
sam 16/01/20 10:33 am well i thought u said u go every year :)
iBLAMEj00 16/01/20 10:33 am No, last was my first year. I was a vigin.
iBLAMEj00 16/01/20 11:01 am COME ON GABE!!!! RESPOND!!!!! I gotta hear
what you have to say!
iBLAMEj00 16/01/20 11:02 am Heh
sam 16/01/20 11:02 am heh
iBLAMEj00 16/01/20 11:02 am You know how he was bitching about his
contract?
iBLAMEj00 16/01/20 11:02 am Scott is tempting him =)
sam 16/01/20 11:03 am yeah.. heh.. he better not:)
sam 16/01/20 11:03 am or we'll take his stupid site.. and do the
cartoons ourselves everyday and lock them out
iBLAMEj00 16/01/20 11:03 am Heh I'll do the cartoon =)
sam 16/01/20 11:03 am and make fun of the LAZY web-generation
kiddies
iBLAMEj00 16/01/20 11:03 am And totally trash it.
sam 16/01/20 11:03 am who just whine and complain
sam 16/01/20 11:04 am actually we're allowed to do it already..
wanna come up w/ a cartonn? we'll post it on
his site :)
sam 16/01/20 11:09 am actually we shouldve done that awhile ago when
they started bitching..doing the stupid comix
ourselves
sam 16/01/20 11:09 am they wouledve been pissed huh
iBLAMEj00 16/01/20 11:10 am I know an artist that would probably love to
do it. =)
sam 16/01/20 11:11 am iBLAMEj00 (ICQ#8906076) Wrote:
I know an artist that would probably love to
do it. =)
[another options.. kick PA guys out and we can
do the comics ourselves]
sam 16/01/20 11:11 am their email basically said they are not going
to cooperate with us.. thereby they are in
breach of the entire contract.. which means we
fire them :)
iBLAMEj00 16/01/20 11:16 am So they don't want to leave either?
sam 16/01/20 11:17 am http://www.penny-arcade.com/
well he said they are being evicted..and
they're violating the termination agreement
already.. continuing to write about us
indirectlye ven
iBLAMEj00 16/01/20 11:18 am I read that already. But, did they sign it?
sam 16/01/20 11:18 am no not yet.. but they promised jonathan they
wouldnt talk about us anymore
sam 16/01/20 11:19 am my preference is to kick them out
sam 16/01/20 11:19 am and let your guy do the comics
iBLAMEj00 16/01/20 11:19 am Heh, it would rule =)
iBLAMEj00 16/01/20 11:20 am But they would stiill whine and bitch.
sam 16/01/20 11:20 am at least they have to start a new site to
whine about us :)
iBLAMEj00 16/01/20 11:21 am Let me see if she's interested in doing a
comic =)
iBLAMEj00 16/01/20 11:40 am Okay, artist is all lined up
sam 16/01/20 11:41 am do you have Will Bryant's icq
sam 16/01/20 11:41 am he's going to be dealing with PA guys
sam 16/01/20 11:41 am maybe use this as leverage?
iBLAMEj00 16/01/20 11:41 am nope.
iBLAMEj00 16/01/20 11:49 am Okay, we've got an artist and the first comic
already done.
iBLAMEj00 16/01/20 11:50 am bryant: Not yet, let me see what I can do.
sam 16/01/20 11:50 am first comic already done? geez :)
iBLAMEj00 16/01/20 11:50 am Heh, I don't mean drawn, but the storyline is
done.
iBLAMEj00 16/01/20 11:50 am Typical PA style.
iBLAMEj00 16/01/20 11:50 am thin on humor.
iBLAMEj00 16/01/20 11:51 am High on stupidity.
iBLAMEj00 16/01/20 12:10 pm Will doesn't want to play hard-ball with Penny
Arcade =)
sam 16/01/20 12:10 pm im talking to him.. he wants to feel them
out.. Jonathan had us sign an agreement w/ PA
like 4 months ago giving them intellectual
property rights stuff back..argh..
never have a geek tell you how to do business
:)
iBLAMEj00 16/01/20 12:11 pm Heh.
sam 16/01/20 12:11 pm esp. ones who wear a T-shirt of the person
you're doing business with :)
iBLAMEj00 16/01/20 12:11 pm Still no problem, we will use different
characters.
sam 16/01/20 12:11 pm btw, we're accepting infospace.com's
investment proposal
sam 16/01/20 12:11 pm heh yeah :)
iBLAMEj00 16/01/20 12:12 pm "Small Penis Arcade"
sam 16/01/20 12:12 pm ha ha
iBLAMEj00 16/01/20 12:13 pm And have a couple of loafing web geek gaming
nerds do stupid stuff
iBLAMEj00 16/01/20 12:13 pm Basicly exactly like Penny Arcade.
sam 16/01/20 12:13 pm maybe we can keep the penny-arcade.com domain
name and give them everything back?
sam 16/01/20 12:13 pm ask Will..
after all, we did have a ncie equity interest
in PA already
sam 16/01/20 12:13 pm because we've been paying them for the assets
thus far
iBLAMEj00 16/01/20 12:14 pm Right.
sam 16/01/20 12:14 pm so in return for the 50k or whatever we paid
them,
sam 16/01/20 12:14 pm they give us a $70 domain name
iBLAMEj00 16/01/20 12:14 pm If they woudln't accept to take their site
back, why would they accept to not get their
domain back?
iBLAMEj00 16/01/20 12:15 pm They think they are holding all the cards.
sam 16/01/20 12:15 pm well i htink they do want their site backq
sam 16/01/20 12:15 pm i know theyre idiots
iBLAMEj00 16/01/20 12:15 pm And that they can do anything they want
because they can't be replaced.
sam 16/01/20 12:15 pm fucking idiots
iBLAMEj00 16/01/20 12:15 pm And that they own their content.
sam 16/01/20 12:15 pm i hate them with a passion
sam 16/01/20 12:15 pm im pissed @ roy for getting us to let them
take their content
iBLAMEj00 16/01/20 12:16 pm So, we lock them out of the server
sam 16/01/20 12:16 pm we cant play evil
sam 16/01/20 12:16 pm i luv to play evil..as im sure u do :)
sam 16/01/20 12:16 pm we did a good job on poor stas :)
iBLAMEj00 16/01/20 12:16 pm And have someone else create "Small Penis
Arcade"
sam 16/01/20 12:16 pm that would be SOOOOO funny
iBLAMEj00 16/01/20 12:16 pm Where we make fun of them 3 times a week.
iBLAMEj00 16/01/20 12:16 pm It won't take 3 comics.
iBLAMEj00 16/01/20 12:17 pm They will be ready to deal when they see the
first comic.
iBLAMEj00 16/01/20 12:17 pm Because all their cards will be lost.
sam 16/01/20 12:17 pm I know heh
iBLAMEj00 16/01/20 12:18 pm Does the contract say that they must have
access to the server?
sam 16/01/20 12:18 pm btw,im just talking to Willnow.. basically,
we're talking about restgrucutring most
peoples contracts that we dont like.. and that
we create a swat team to do it..
sam 16/01/20 12:18 pm no contract doesnt say that
sam 16/01/20 12:18 pm before we announce the infosapce investment
iBLAMEj00 16/01/20 12:18 pm Does the contract say that someone else cannot
create a comic on their site?
sam 16/01/20 12:19 pm no i dont think so
sam 16/01/20 12:19 pm we should do the same on SA if they misbehave
sam 16/01/20 12:19 pm but Will said he's on board 100% with us
sam 16/01/20 12:19 pm as long as he getspaid like couple grand for
his rent or something this week
iBLAMEj00 16/01/20 12:19 pm You mean that Will's on board with me and you.
sam 16/01/20 12:20 pm no.. that SA is on board with efront and
helping us with our propgangda
iBLAMEj00 16/01/20 12:20 pm Oh, penny arcade is on-board.
sam 16/01/20 12:20 pm we need to create a propaganda machine :)
sam 16/01/20 12:20 pm small penis arcade .. thats perfectq
sam 16/01/20 12:21 pm you sould create that on aah
iBLAMEj00 16/01/20 12:21 pm Heh
sam 16/01/20 12:21 pm and link to it from the home page of aah
sam 16/01/20 12:21 pm i bet it'll get linked alot :)
iBLAMEj00 16/01/20 12:21 pm I will.
sam 16/01/20 12:21 pm and have a raving lunatic raving and ranting
iBLAMEj00 16/01/20 12:22 pm Heh
sam 16/01/20 12:22 pm Penisenvy-Arcade
sam 16/01/20 12:22 pm have Gabe dress like a girl?
iBLAMEj00 16/01/20 12:22 pm Heh
iBLAMEj00 16/01/20 12:22 pm Yea, have them be gay.
sam 16/01/20 12:22 pm ohhhhhhhhh poerfect:)
iBLAMEj00 16/01/20 12:22 pm Or cross-dressers.
sam 16/01/20 12:22 pm thats awesome
iBLAMEj00 16/01/20 12:23 pm Damn, it would be easy to create a 3 cell
comic 3 times a week with this kind of
storyline.
iBLAMEj00 16/01/20 12:23 pm How much do they get paid for doing it? =)
sam 16/01/20 12:24 pm nothing now
iBLAMEj00 16/01/20 12:24 pm Heh
sam 16/01/20 12:24 pm they aint getting a dime frome front ever
again
iBLAMEj00 16/01/20 12:26 pm I think Will is afraid of me =)
sam 16/01/20 12:26 pm hehehe :)
iBLAMEj00 16/01/20 12:26 pm He's probably thinking, woha, this guy's nuts.
sam 16/01/20 12:27 pm heh.. maybe.. doesnt amtter:) will, roy,
they're all on our side
sam 16/01/20 12:27 pm the nuttier the better
sam 16/01/20 12:27 pm does stas still talk to u
iBLAMEj00 16/01/20 12:27 pm Yea, if you call it talking.
sam 16/01/20 12:28 pm one sided convo? :)
iBLAMEj00 16/01/20 12:29 pm Just broken English were I can barly
understand it:
well, I consider that its important thing as
well.
we have made contract, but I still didnt
received the stock shares.
I'm paying for t-100.net host and dont want to
trasfer its to efront.com untill efront.com
will finish their part of contract.
iBLAMEj00 16/01/20 12:29 pm I can't set him to ignore till we send him a
piece of paper.
sam 16/01/20 12:30 pm maybe i can fax him a piece of paper that says
'stocks for stas from efront'
____________________
sign here
sam 16/01/20 12:30 pm he wont know the diff:)
iBLAMEj00 16/01/20 12:31 pm Heh
iBLAMEj00 16/01/20 12:31 pm Full page ads:
http://www.gamerspulse.com/reviews_2001/PS2/ss
/promotion.shtml
sam 16/01/20 12:32 pm funny i was just telling someone today we'll
do that :)
iBLAMEj00 16/01/20 12:32 pm Yea, would work great for sites that have long
content.
iBLAMEj00 16/01/20 12:33 pm That's a good reason why we need sites that
cooperate.
sam 16/01/20 12:33 pm yeah i know
sam 16/01/20 12:33 pm im definitely sick of non-cooperating sites
iBLAMEj00 16/01/20 12:33 pm You sell a deal like that and you need several
webmasters that you can just tell to insert
this in your next story.
sam 16/01/20 12:33 pm yup
sam 16/01/20 12:34 pm no reason why they should bitch about this
iBLAMEj00 16/01/20 12:34 pm No harm, easy to do.
iBLAMEj00 16/01/20 12:34 pm And even another page view.
sam 16/01/20 12:34 pm yeah
iBLAMEj00 16/01/20 12:34 pm =)
iBLAMEj00 16/01/20 12:34 pm Actually, they may like it =)
sam 16/01/20 12:34 pm it sounds good.. looks good.. probalby works
great
iBLAMEj00 16/01/20 12:34 pm I'd bet they would prefer that to a pop-up ad.
sam 16/01/20 12:34 pm and probably very high cpm
sam 16/01/20 12:35 pm do u remember commission-junctino used to do
that
sam 16/01/20 12:35 pm full page ads
then
'take me to the story'
sam 16/01/20 12:35 pm at the bottom of the big ads
iBLAMEj00 16/01/20 12:35 pm Don't remember it.
sam 16/01/20 12:36 pm ill have to find the url oneof these days
iBLAMEj00 16/01/20 12:36 pm Did we make anything off my PS2 ad?
iBLAMEj00 16/01/20 12:36 pm I see a lot of career ads now.
sam 16/01/20 12:39 pm i think the clickthrus were good.. .60%.. but
we dont have enough offers (emails)
soo.. today i was in meetings 75% of the
time.. im putting the sales guys, kevin s. for
promotions, draxzen for traffic, dan youg, and
bob the programmer all inone big room
together.. and just crated our dbase marketing
team to crank and sell tons of offers.. and
implement and execute
sam 16/01/20 12:39 pm so kindaputting all the pieces together
rightnow
sam 17/01/20 12:40 pm hey.. anything ever happen w/ getting more
srunner links on other sites?
iBLAMEj00 17/01/20 12:40 pm No, we need to get storerunner to allow more
clicks first.
sam 17/01/20 12:40 pm aha thats right
iBLAMEj00 17/01/20 12:43 pm All the gaming sites have maxed out the
current storerunner product/merchant limits.
sam 17/01/20 12:44 pm how bout noongaming stuff
sam 17/01/20 12:44 pm btw, any more stuff on egroups
iBLAMEj00 17/01/20 12:45 pm PA is getting a little pissy, so I asked if it
was a rule for a comic to be funny.
iBLAMEj00 17/01/20 12:45 pm I wanted to tell them that I've found an
artist =)
sam 17/01/20 12:45 pm you should tell him!!
iBLAMEj00 17/01/20 12:45 pm If he gives me anymore shit, I will.
sam 17/01/20 12:45 pm basically, PA said he wasnt going to post
anymore and he did.. fucker
sam 17/01/20 12:46 pm we had another PA type of person.. david
rudolph , an ex-employee who is disgruntled
and quit.. basically trying to hold us hostage
for 500k.. and extorting us.. and probably
posting all sorts of crap
sam 17/01/20 12:46 pm i dont care :)
iBLAMEj00 17/01/20 12:46 pm When you get sick of them, let me know, she's
all lined up to do the comic.
iBLAMEj00 17/01/20 12:49 pm Well, we know PA and SA posted some stuff.
iBLAMEj00 17/01/20 12:49 pm SA has posted more stuff, but cleaning it up.
sam 17/01/20 12:49 pm where is SA posting stuff
iBLAMEj00 17/01/20 12:50 pm He posted something to his message boards.
iBLAMEj00 17/01/20 12:50 pm That's what FuckedCompany quoted.
sam 17/01/20 12:50 pm today? still ?
sam 17/01/20 12:50 pm man.. bryant siad he was under our control
iBLAMEj00 17/01/20 12:50 pm But on the SA main site, he posted something
else today, but tried to patch things up.
sam 17/01/20 12:51 pm SA is a fucker too
sam 17/01/20 12:51 pm i dunno why bryant and roy like him..
iBLAMEj00 17/01/20 12:51 pm Well, he does seem like he's trying to clean
up what he said before.
sam 17/01/20 12:51 pm oh ok
sam 17/01/20 12:51 pm we're going to get him some money out
sam 17/01/20 12:51 pm like 2500 in a day or two
sam 17/01/20 12:51 pm so that should help
iBLAMEj00 17/01/20 12:52 pm SA is a good site, too bad he's the site :/
sam 17/01/20 12:52 pm ya
sam 17/01/20 12:54 pm sam: (8:49 PM) PA is still posting shit
roy7: (8:53 PM) To the egroups list?
sam: (8:53 PM) yup
sam: (8:53 PM) thats what tim said
sam: (8:53 PM) i knew they would :)
sam 17/01/20 12:54 pm [right?]
iBLAMEj00 17/01/20 12:54 pm He was giving me shit.
iBLAMEj00 17/01/20 12:54 pm Not eFront =)
sam 17/01/20 12:54 pm samte thing.. he shouldnt be talking to any1
to do w/ efront
sam 17/01/20 12:55 pm or on a list that is about efront
iBLAMEj00 17/01/20 12:55 pm He can't help himself =)
iBLAMEj00 17/01/20 12:55 pm So, did Harsha beg you for money?
sam 17/01/20 12:55 pm yeah .. we'll give him some soon.. we settled
up w/ speedyclick so that helps..they'll wire
$ soon
working on about.com next.. they owe us a
bunch
iBLAMEj00 17/01/20 12:55 pm What did we get out of speedyclick?
sam 17/01/20 12:56 pm of course, didnt help that ive been focusing
on collections and not making deals for
january.. so our revs gonna look shitty
sam 17/01/20 12:56 pm we're getting everything they owe us.. but
that'll be going fast
sam 17/01/20 12:56 pm so srunner would help
sam 17/01/20 12:56 pm can we get srunner on nongaming sites
sam 17/01/20 12:56 pm so we use different merchants
iBLAMEj00 17/01/20 12:56 pm Babynames
sam 17/01/20 12:56 pm like freevote we could do alot
iBLAMEj00 17/01/20 12:57 pm Yea, freevote.
iBLAMEj00 17/01/20 12:57 pm And asltavista.
sam 17/01/20 12:57 pm like get nate for access or contact info or
somethig
iBLAMEj00 17/01/20 12:57 pm Maybe tomorrow, I've got a big release here
today.
sam 17/01/20 12:57 pm whenever you're done of course :)
iBLAMEj00 17/01/20 1:44 pm What site does Gabor Timis run?
sam 17/01/20 1:45 pm like 4 of our sites.. he needs to be
renegotiated
iBLAMEj00 17/01/20 1:46 pm He's on board. Seems to want to work.
sam 17/01/20 1:48 pm im putting together a whole slew of webmasters
and contact list and i want you and bryant to
tackle them in the next 2 weeks and get
everyone on board by feb. 1.. i think we can
do wonders
sam 17/01/20 1:48 pm ill try to get that over to u guys soon by
tomorrow
sam 17/01/20 1:48 pm we'll have a swat team :)
iBLAMEj00 17/01/20 1:48 pm Heh
iBLAMEj00 17/01/20 1:49 pm Really, everyone is already on net60, so
what's the diff?
sam 17/01/20 1:50 pm yeah i know..
sam 17/01/20 1:50 pm its all good :)
sam 17/01/20 1:50 pm but i need to slash their payments too
sam 17/01/20 1:50 pm (important stuff)
iBLAMEj00 17/01/20 1:50 pm Heh
sam 17/01/20 1:51 pm im sure we can do it :)
iBLAMEj00 17/01/20 1:51 pm We should axe the little crappy sites that get
$2/CPM
iBLAMEj00 17/01/20 1:51 pm Gamefusion and the like.
sam 17/01/20 1:52 pm no doubt.. im putting a big info booklet for u
and bryant.. then we'll have a conf call to go
over all that
sam 17/01/20 1:52 pm and go from there
sam 17/01/20 1:52 pm 'gamefusion and the like'
sam 17/01/20 1:52 pm heh
iBLAMEj00 17/01/20 1:52 pm Heh, PA wasn't giving me shit =)
iBLAMEj00 17/01/20 1:52 pm It was someone else =) Oh well =)
iBLAMEj00 17/01/20 1:53 pm Someone defending PA, if you can believe that
=)
iBLAMEj00 17/01/20 1:53 pm Mental note, don't try to do 3 things at once
when bitching someone out =)
iBLAMEj00 17/01/20 1:54 pm Oh well, I just said their comic sucked and
that everyone should blame PA for the bad
press about "their" company eFront =)
sam 17/01/20 1:54 pm lol heh
iBLAMEj00 17/01/20 1:55 pm Sometimes you want something so bad you're
mind plays tricks on you.
sam 17/01/20 1:56 pm heh .. been there:)
iBLAMEj00 17/01/20 1:59 pm Isn't it ironic that bad things would always
seem to happen to a site called somethingawful
?
sam 17/01/20 1:59 pm heh ya
iBLAMEj00 17/01/20 1:59 pm Like... Something awful is bound to happen =)
iBLAMEj00 17/01/20 2:01 pm I'm going to suggest that he renames the site
somethingwonderful.com
sam 17/01/20 2:02 pm well its going to be renamed to sa.efront.com
very very soon as part of the s4r move, all
sites are being renamed:)
iBLAMEj00 17/01/20 2:02 pm Heh, I know. Matt asked me if it would be a
good idea. =)
sam 17/01/20 2:02 pm tell him yes yes
sam 17/01/20 2:02 pm nod ur head :)
iBLAMEj00 17/01/20 2:03 pm I did, did.
sam 17/01/20 2:11 pm btw, we get $40 cpm on careers.efront.com
sam 17/01/20 2:11 pm do u have time.. i wanted to introduce you to
sam 17/01/20 2:12 pm dan, the founder of worklife.com.. whose
company we bought to join efront
sam 17/01/20 2:12 pm and so we need to drive alot of good qualified
traffic to careers.efront.com or sectinos
thereof
sam 17/01/20 2:12 pm i thought i would introduce you to dan and you
might have ideas
iBLAMEj00 17/01/20 2:12 pm $40/cpm and get paid?
sam 17/01/20 2:12 pm yes
iBLAMEj00 17/01/20 2:12 pm heh
sam 17/01/20 2:12 pm but no cheatey stuff:)
iBLAMEj00 17/01/20 2:13 pm No, I was just laughing because who knows if
we'll get paid =)
iBLAMEj00 17/01/20 2:13 pm How about I just redirect all my traffic to
his site =)
sam 17/01/20 2:13 pm i know.. but trust me
sam 17/01/20 2:14 pm we get paid even if we have to slam them
sam 17/01/20 2:14 pm except everonnet/gameglow.. they filed bk cuz
of us :(
sam 17/01/20 2:14 pm so let me intro u to dan
iBLAMEj00 17/01/20 2:14 pm k
iBLAMEj00 17/01/20 2:14 pm He I assume knows about the $40/CPM?
sam 17/01/20 2:15 pm yes.. he's the one who signed all the
contracts up
sam 17/01/20 2:15 pm he was the founder and ceo of worklife for 5
years
sam 17/01/20 2:15 pm before efront finished acquiring them in late
decemer
sam 17/01/20 2:15 pm really good guy
sam 17/01/20 2:16 pm sharp.. and older guy like us ..not kids:)
iBLAMEj00 17/01/20 2:16 pm Ahh, I was hoping to talk to another PA/Stas
type =)
sam 17/01/20 2:17 pm no no :)
iBLAMEj00 17/01/20 2:18 pm I'm going to ask him for a job =)
sam 17/01/20 2:19 pm u cant ur loyal to efront.. 7500/month for
life :)
iBLAMEj00 17/01/20 2:19 pm Heh
sam 17/01/20 2:20 pm sam: (10:18 PM) tell everything u need with
Tim
sam: (10:18 PM) open/honest/etc.
sam: (10:18 PM) he's good
sam: (10:18 PM) he can implement on his site
(his webmaster of arcadeathome.com)
sam: (10:18 PM) and once he does something
that works.. we can roll out to other sites
sam: (10:19 PM) thats our grasroots approach
:)
dan - worklife: (10:19 PM) i am tal;king woith
him now
sam: (10:20 PM) tell him exactly what you
need.. and he'll get it done
sam 17/01/20 2:20 pm dude, im building you up :)
iBLAMEj00 17/01/20 2:21 pm Heh
iBLAMEj00 17/01/20 2:53 pm Dan - Worklife: ciao
iBLAMEj00 17/01/20 2:53 pm Translate ciao for me
iBLAMEj00 17/01/20 2:53 pm =)
iBLAMEj00 17/01/20 2:58 pm So why does he need eFront?
sam 17/01/20 10:14 pm we're a team
sam 17/01/20 10:14 pm i wouldnt question his loyalty
sam 17/01/20 10:14 pm doesnt matter why you need efront or why i
need efrnot or why he needs efront.. we're
together already :)
sam 17/01/20 10:14 pm ciao = bye :)
iBLAMEj00 17/01/20 11:01 pm Heh, I know
iBLAMEj00 17/01/20 11:01 pm I just never heard anyone say "ciao" that
wasn't in a movie.
sam 17/01/20 11:02 pm heh well he's old :)
iBLAMEj00 17/01/20 11:02 pm It just seems that he's got a good thing
going.
iBLAMEj00 17/01/20 11:02 pm I'm not questioning his loyalty
iBLAMEj00 17/01/20 11:03 pm Just trying to get information so I can
understand his business fully.
sam 17/01/20 11:03 pm we get 10 cent cpc for links on the job search
result pages
sam 17/01/20 11:03 pm and $5cpm on each 'badge' .. which is tghe
88x31
sam 17/01/20 11:03 pm so basically 40cpm if a page has 8 badges
sam 17/01/20 11:03 pm and he has contracts for all of that
sam 17/01/20 11:03 pm that are year longs
sam 17/01/20 11:04 pm so the idea is to drive qualified career
traffic to some of these areas
sam 17/01/20 11:04 pm we're also powering careers.altavista.com
sam 17/01/20 11:04 pm and we signed work.com
sam 17/01/20 11:04 pm and trying to get excite signed up as well
right now
sam 17/01/20 11:04 pm so we need to drive more traffic to
careers.efront.com so we can go back to the
job boards and show them how good we're
doing.. and maybe even ask for a fee
increase:)
iBLAMEj00 17/01/20 11:05 pm So, did we purchase him, or is it a kind of
affiliation?
iBLAMEj00 17/01/20 11:06 pm I thought work.com was @home?
sam 17/01/20 11:08 pm 100% efront
sam 17/01/20 11:08 pm yeah work.com is 50% owned by exciteathome
sam 17/01/20 11:08 pm dan's our vp of biz dev now:)
iBLAMEj00 17/01/20 11:09 pm Well, there are some markets that are really
profitable out there.
iBLAMEj00 17/01/20 11:10 pm I keep telling my wife that she needs to start
a wedding site. Lost of high dollar things to
sell and therefore lots of high dollar
advertisers. (diamonds, dresses, trips, etc).
sam 17/01/20 11:11 pm yeahthere are ... like babynames too
iBLAMEj00 17/01/20 11:11 pm Yea
iBLAMEj00 17/01/20 11:11 pm babynames needs to add a registry service =)
sam 17/01/20 11:12 pm thats a good idea.
iBLAMEj00 17/01/20 11:12 pm Like a affiliation with a few vendors where
people can register for everything, and people
can buy presents and you can make a cut of it.
sam 17/01/20 11:13 pm or even initially start off w/ srunner
products
iBLAMEj00 17/01/20 11:13 pm Oh yea.
iBLAMEj00 17/01/20 11:13 pm But, a registry would be kick ass.
iBLAMEj00 17/01/20 11:13 pm Because then you get ALL the money from
everyone at the party.
iBLAMEj00 17/01/20 11:14 pm Amazon.com has a Toys-R-Us connection.
Getting a deal with Amazon to do a registry
would be very cool.
iBLAMEj00 17/01/20 11:15 pm You would just tell everyone to go to
babynames.com and you would supply the mom's
name to see the registry.
iBLAMEj00 17/01/20 11:15 pm When someone purchased something, it would
take care of crossing it off the list and all.
iBLAMEj00 17/01/20 11:17 pm That's why companies do gift registries,
because then they lock in almost all the gifts
to their store.
sam 17/01/20 11:17 pm aha i see.. interesting :)
iBLAMEj00 17/01/20 11:17 pm And getting a % cut would be more profitable
than Storerunner.
sam 17/01/20 11:17 pm yeah most likely
iBLAMEj00 17/01/20 11:17 pm In this case, people are REALLY going to buy
something.
sam 17/01/20 11:30 pm so do u think u'll have a little time to get
srunner going on other sites today :)
iBLAMEj00 17/01/20 11:30 pm I'll contact a few non-gaming sites.
sam 17/01/20 11:34 pm i think they want us to put TRSID as well
sam 17/01/20 11:34 pm i dont think nate has done it yet.. not sure
what he's waiting for
iBLAMEj00 17/01/20 11:38 pm I think the TRSID's come on the back-end. I
see that they are in the database now.
iBLAMEj00 18/01/20 10:31 pm Yo.
sam 21/01/20 7:24 am hey is ur site moved over to s4r yet
iBLAMEj00 21/01/20 7:24 am Nope
iBLAMEj00 21/01/20 7:25 am Sorry I like, left the last time we talked.
Had to puke and was dead to the world for like
24 hours.
sam 21/01/20 7:25 am really.. what happened.. fever?
iBLAMEj00 21/01/20 7:26 am puke flu.
iBLAMEj00 21/01/20 7:26 am Got it from the kids.
iBLAMEj00 21/01/20 7:26 am Gotta eat now too :/
sam 21/01/20 7:26 am ya.. :)
sam 22/01/20 6:29 am hey do u want an arcadeathome branded career
page
iBLAMEj00 22/01/20 6:30 am Hmmm
sam 22/01/20 6:30 am im trying to think how to increase traffic to
the careers
iBLAMEj00 22/01/20 6:30 am Not sure how it would work...
sam 22/01/20 6:31 am and i was thinking that if we make the job
search results site-branded, we could get
better conversion rate
sam 22/01/20 6:31 am cuz the webmasters would then add it to their
navigation, etc.
iBLAMEj00 22/01/20 6:32 am I don't think making it branded would be the
reason they would add it
sam 22/01/20 6:32 am i mean for the users
sam 22/01/20 6:32 am we'll force the webmasters to do it.. but the
users need a reason
iBLAMEj00 22/01/20 6:32 am Users to add it to their bookmarks you mean?
sam 22/01/20 6:33 am users to click on it
meaning that just adding a 'career center' to
the webguide like nate did is pretty lame
sam 22/01/20 6:33 am low clicks etc
iBLAMEj00 22/01/20 6:33 am sec, mom called :/
sam 22/01/20 6:34 am sure :)
iBLAMEj00 22/01/20 6:50 am Mom can really talk :/
sam 22/01/20 6:51 am heh they usually do
iBLAMEj00 22/01/20 6:51 am She had another cat scan on Friday to see if
her brain tumor came back. She's talking
about it.
sam 22/01/20 6:52 am yeah.. jon's mom has some sort of tumor too.
sam 22/01/20 12:53 pm hey where's the url to the goto.com most
popular searches?
iBLAMEj00 22/01/20 9:51 pm http://inventory.go2.com/inventory/Search_Sugg
stion.jhtml
sam 23/01/20 1:18 pm efront is a MSP (media services provider) that
provides services and solutions to media
business through eddie (efront delivery
engine) which consists of:
-Technology Division ( Managed Ad Serving &
Mgmt, Content Mgmt & ASP, Managed hosting)
- Syndication (Careers, Directories,
Education, Tech content, Downloads, etc.)
- Marketing Services ( Media Services & Media
Sales)
- Direct Marketing (Lead generation for online
and offline businesses)
- International (deploying the above
internationally)
[btw, some of the concepts we're currently
developing: we're not a media company, we
provide services and solutions to media &
other businesses .. so probably get rid of the
media from our name too :]
sam 23/01/20 3:52 pm sam: (11:49 PM) basiclaly i'd have one of our
200$/month programmer write a script to
pullthe data from careercast in realtime and
display it through a content block (ie boxed
area like the webguide on the site)
sam: (11:50 PM) so flipdog raised 30 mil??
dan - worklife: (11:51 PM) Yea, I was talking
with your midwest frined, forgot his name,
iBlamej00 about that, he is real good btw,
wish he had some more time.
dan - worklife: (11:51 PM) Yes
sam: (11:51 PM) yeah.. Tim.. he's the most
excellent producer i know
sam 23/01/20 3:52 pm heh 'midwest friend'
iBLAMEj00 23/01/20 11:03 pm Heh
iBLAMEj00 23/01/20 11:04 pm I heard about the standardized template thing
that you were talking about with the euro
sites.
sam 23/01/20 11:04 pm euro sites?
sam 23/01/20 11:04 pm all sites heh :)
iBLAMEj00 23/01/20 11:04 pm Or maybe Euro division.
iBLAMEj00 23/01/20 11:04 pm Yea, for all sites.
iBLAMEj00 23/01/20 11:05 pm If done right, it could work well.
sam 23/01/20 11:05 pm we'll fwd a mockup to u when we get it
sam 23/01/20 11:05 pm i have 2 designers working on it
iBLAMEj00 23/01/20 11:06 pm Yea, I've already got a mole from inside
eFront going to give me the layouts =)
iBLAMEj00 23/01/20 11:06 pm What area's do you want for eFront marketing?
iBLAMEj00 23/01/20 11:07 pm Top and right?
sam 23/01/20 11:07 pm yeah g3 .. i told him its ok to do so :)
sam 23/01/20 11:07 pm heh
iBLAMEj00 23/01/20 11:07 pm Heh, I was joking =)
sam 23/01/20 11:07 pm you are the mole inside efront :)
iBLAMEj00 23/01/20 11:07 pm Me? =)
iBLAMEj00 23/01/20 11:08 pm Going that route would make it easy to deploy
campaigns.
sam 23/01/20 11:08 pm yeah
iBLAMEj00 23/01/20 11:09 pm To do the top and right, it seems that you
would still have to include two pieces of code
(in other words, the same as the banner and
web guide.
iBLAMEj00 23/01/20 11:09 pm Top and left could be done with one include.
sam 23/01/20 11:11 pm we're doing 10 boxes:)
sam 23/01/20 11:12 pm here's all the elements we need:
1. nice standard efront + site header
2. top banner
3. localized content strip
4. goto.com relevant search result strip
5. navigation within the site or group of
sites (dont need hub navigation.. all sites
are virtually our hubs)
6. strip for portal-like services (maps, etc.)
7. shopping boxes
8. other affiliate/sponsor boxes
9. their content
:)
iBLAMEj00 23/01/20 11:13 pm That's 9 =)
sam 23/01/20 11:15 pm thorw in another box for future service
sam 23/01/20 11:15 pm im sure we'll think of more moneymaking ideas
iBLAMEj00 23/01/20 11:15 pm We need to consider how a page like this would
fit:
http://arcadeathome.efront.com/console.phtml
iBLAMEj00 23/01/20 11:16 pm http://arcadeathome.efront.com/n64.phtml
sam 23/01/20 11:16 pm thats pretty easy
sam 23/01/20 11:16 pm :)
sam 23/01/20 11:16 pm i call that the listing page
sam 23/01/20 11:16 pm go to yahoo.com
sam 23/01/20 11:16 pm classifieds or anythingq
sam 23/01/20 11:16 pm they have these listings too
iBLAMEj00 23/01/20 11:17 pm Not as much content however.
sam 23/01/20 11:17 pm it's just a listing though.. take out the
frames portion
sam 23/01/20 11:17 pm http://classifieds.yahoo.com/display/employmen
?cc=employment&ck=telemarketer&za=and&cf=1&cs=
ime%202&cpcy=&cr=Los+Angeles&b=106&ct_hft=tabl
&dtlrt=
iBLAMEj00 23/01/20 11:18 pm Well that works because it's only 4 columns
and only has a thin navigation to the left.
iBLAMEj00 23/01/20 11:18 pm Have navigation on both sides, and have more
contect, and it will be much harder.
iBLAMEj00 23/01/20 11:19 pm It's easy to design a template before you
start a site, but doing it after words may
mean redoing the entire site.
sam 23/01/20 11:19 pm i dont see navigation to the right on your
stuff
iBLAMEj00 23/01/20 11:19 pm Like those pages I showed you are not just
pages, they are programs that generate them.
sam 23/01/20 11:19 pm its just efront webguide..which is getting
killed
iBLAMEj00 23/01/20 11:19 pm Web guide, and I have stuff below the web
guide.
iBLAMEj00 23/01/20 11:20 pm Look at this page then:
http://arcadeathome.efront.com/
sam 23/01/20 11:21 pm just need a little re-organizations.. for
example, your stuff below the webguide would
just be menu items as part of the left menu or
somethin
sam 23/01/20 11:21 pm or could even go to the left
sam 23/01/20 11:21 pm or could be
1 sdflkja
2 daslfjk
3 aldksf
[more..]
iBLAMEj00 23/01/20 11:22 pm Can't go on the left, not big enough and with
is dyamnic.
iBLAMEj00 23/01/20 11:22 pm dynamic even.
iBLAMEj00 23/01/20 11:22 pm grrr,
iBLAMEj00 23/01/20 11:22 pm Let me say that agai.
iBLAMEj00 23/01/20 11:22 pm Can't go on the left, not big enough and width
is dynamic.
sam 23/01/20 11:23 pm well on the right then under the whatever is
going to go there :)
sam 23/01/20 11:23 pm just easy to solve issues really :)
sam 23/01/20 11:23 pm idea is to put money making stuff on top
iBLAMEj00 23/01/20 11:23 pm Oh, yea, there are ways no doubt.
iBLAMEj00 23/01/20 11:23 pm But at what cost?
sam 23/01/20 11:24 pm at what potential :)
iBLAMEj00 23/01/20 11:24 pm Like those sites that had difficulties adding
the web guide, would have at least twice as
much difficulty in redesigning every page to
fit a new template.
sam 23/01/20 11:25 pm good..we dont need them :)
iBLAMEj00 23/01/20 11:25 pm Heh
sam 23/01/20 11:25 pm would you rahter have to monetize 200 brands
or one brand
iBLAMEj00 23/01/20 11:26 pm Don't get me wrong, I think it's the right
thing to do.
iBLAMEj00 23/01/20 11:26 pm However, there's a right and a wrong way to do
it.
sam 23/01/20 11:26 pm yeah i know... so lets do it right :)
iBLAMEj00 23/01/20 11:29 pm The main issues for a good design that also
fits and works well is.
1) giving the sites enough room for content
2) not making the site ads on all sites (see
dailyradar.com)
iBLAMEj00 23/01/20 11:29 pm Grrr..
iBLAMEj00 23/01/20 11:29 pm 2) not making the site ads on all sides (see
dailyradar.com)
iBLAMEj00 23/01/20 11:30 pm People are running from dailyradar.
sam 23/01/20 11:30 pm how do u mean site ads on all sides
sam 23/01/20 11:30 pm oh i see
sam 23/01/20 11:30 pm well we plan on making tons of text link ads
sam 23/01/20 11:30 pm that are integrated w/ content
iBLAMEj00 23/01/20 11:30 pm Top, bottom, left, right.
sam 23/01/20 11:30 pm on a cpc basis
sam 23/01/20 11:30 pm i want toget rid of the bottom banner too
fornow
sam 23/01/20 11:31 pm you'll like it :)
iBLAMEj00 23/01/20 11:31 pm I think the main thing is top, left, right.
iBLAMEj00 23/01/20 11:31 pm People are pissed ad dailyradar because they
have so many ads that they can't find the
content.
sam 23/01/20 11:32 pm yeah.. needs alot of work in general.. btw,
what do u think about this:
http://www.efront.com/gfx/headers/headers.htm
iBLAMEj00 23/01/20 11:32 pm Cool, but they are not full screen.
sam 23/01/20 11:33 pm how do u mean
iBLAMEj00 23/01/20 11:33 pm Whatever template you consider, it must be the
full window width.
sam 23/01/20 11:33 pm variable width u mean?
sam 23/01/20 11:33 pm how come yahoo doesnt do that (just curious)
iBLAMEj00 23/01/20 11:33 pm Yea, always use the entire width of the
window.
iBLAMEj00 23/01/20 11:34 pm Because they don't have much content areas.
sam 23/01/20 11:34 pm um..they have tons of content.. they dont cram
it all in one place :)
iBLAMEj00 23/01/20 11:34 pm They have all their navigation at the top and
bottom.
iBLAMEj00 23/01/20 11:34 pm Nothing on the sides.
sam 23/01/20 11:34 pm yes thats true
sam 23/01/20 11:34 pm is that bad or good
iBLAMEj00 23/01/20 11:34 pm Also, they don't just have one template for
every page.
sam 23/01/20 11:34 pm should we put our navigation on top and bottom
iBLAMEj00 23/01/20 11:34 pm They have tons of different templates.
sam 23/01/20 11:34 pm i know.. but same design architecture
sam 23/01/20 11:35 pm thats not a bad thing is it.. i'd like to
offer some sort of flexbility within the
content area for the sites
sam 23/01/20 11:35 pm like that
iBLAMEj00 23/01/20 11:35 pm These three don't look anything alike.
http://classifieds.yahoo.com/
http://classifieds.yahoo.com/display/employmen
?cc=employment&ck=telemarketer&za=and&cf=1&cs=
ime%202&cpcy=&cr=Los+Angeles&b=106&ct_hft=tabl
&dtlrt=
http://www.yahoo.com/
sam 23/01/20 11:36 pm i know i agree
sam 23/01/20 11:36 pm but you still know its yahoo
sam 23/01/20 11:36 pm thats the important thing
iBLAMEj00 23/01/20 11:36 pm Other than saying Yahoo at the top, even their
background colors are different.
sam 23/01/20 11:36 pm thats what will unify our stuff into one
product
iBLAMEj00 23/01/20 11:36 pm Okay, now we're getting somewhere =)
sam 23/01/20 11:36 pm not necessarily a strict rigid layout for
everything
sam 23/01/20 11:36 pm i know that already :)
sam 23/01/20 11:37 pm but we still cant be too funky.. dbzhomeworld
and efront betanews looking totally diff..
like www.excite.com and www.yahoo.com
sam 23/01/20 11:37 pm same design architecture with modular layout
iBLAMEj00 23/01/20 11:38 pm The only thing similar is the top.
iBLAMEj00 23/01/20 11:38 pm And even that's not similar.
iBLAMEj00 23/01/20 11:39 pm I think what you see in Yahoo is just that it
says Yahoo at the top of every page.
iBLAMEj00 23/01/20 11:39 pm Not that the template is the same.
sam 23/01/20 11:39 pm but the template has the same architecture
iBLAMEj00 23/01/20 11:39 pm Other that the top, you can't even tell it's
the same site.
iBLAMEj00 23/01/20 11:39 pm No it doesn't. Look at the three yahoo links
I showed you.
sam 23/01/20 11:39 pm consitent fonts, etc. (not sure if we want
that)
headers for each box
pastelish color coding scheme
sam 23/01/20 11:40 pm if the top wasnt there and you went to any of
yahoos pages.. im sure mostppl would know its
yahoo
sam 23/01/20 11:40 pm who use it
sam 23/01/20 11:40 pm they dont cram everything together.. it flows
nicely
sam 23/01/20 11:40 pm and actually lets u use lots of different
templates
sam 23/01/20 11:40 pm within the content areas
iBLAMEj00 23/01/20 11:40 pm Heh, I don't think you understand.
iBLAMEj00 23/01/20 11:41 pm These sites use back-end systems.
iBLAMEj00 23/01/20 11:41 pm And were designed from the ground-up using
them.
sam 23/01/20 11:41 pm so why cant we go retro
iBLAMEj00 23/01/20 11:41 pm And Yahoo has a huge staff of people doing it.
sam 23/01/20 11:41 pm so do alot more with alot less :)
iBLAMEj00 23/01/20 11:42 pm We could do it, but it would take forever.
sam 23/01/20 11:42 pm its still the same design elements
sam 23/01/20 11:42 pm meaning that they dont reinvent the wheel
everydayq
iBLAMEj00 23/01/20 11:42 pm And you thought it was difficult getting the
web guide on all sites.
sam 23/01/20 11:42 pm we give flexiblity in terms of a template and
layout..and specify what can be chiaged
sam 23/01/20 11:42 pm well we have a 3 phase approach :)
sam 23/01/20 11:43 pm phase 1 complete the design
phase 2 re-do all efront webmaster-less
sites(skinz, betanews, freeware32, etc. (about
15 of them))
iBLAMEj00 23/01/20 11:43 pm Changed?
sam 23/01/20 11:43 pm phase 3.. have g3 deploy it
iBLAMEj00 23/01/20 11:43 pm How would they be able to change it?
sam 23/01/20 11:43 pm within the content areas and stuff.. :)
sam 23/01/20 11:43 pm this sounds like the webguide conversation :)
iBLAMEj00 23/01/20 11:44 pm Heh, this will be worse than the web guide.
iBLAMEj00 23/01/20 11:44 pm However, if it's done differently, it would be
easier.
iBLAMEj00 23/01/20 11:45 pm A great example of content blocks gone bad is
ugo.com
iBLAMEj00 23/01/20 11:46 pm Micro-small content boxes.
iBLAMEj00 23/01/20 11:46 pm Fonts so small you can't even read it.
iBLAMEj00 23/01/20 11:47 pm It's no wonder they are having problems.
sam 23/01/20 11:47 pm which example?
sam 23/01/20 11:47 pm ugo looks horrible:)
iBLAMEj00 23/01/20 11:47 pm Every page on ugo.com
iBLAMEj00 23/01/20 11:47 pm http://ugo.com/channels/games/playstation2/def
ult.asp?SectionID=29
iBLAMEj00 23/01/20 11:48 pm Their content block is like 150 pixels wide
and about 300 high.
iBLAMEj00 23/01/20 11:48 pm Like on that link, it's where the Football
image is and it says "Maddening!"
sam 23/01/20 11:49 pm oh i see it.. ok
i was thinking more yahooish content blocks
sam 23/01/20 11:49 pm you're right the font is bad
iBLAMEj00 23/01/20 11:49 pm ugo.com and dailyradar.com are two sites that
people have flocked away from after they
redesigned it. No one can find anything.
sam 23/01/20 11:49 pm would it be better to have all sites use the
same font
iBLAMEj00 23/01/20 11:49 pm Yea, but you also have to consider who uses
each site.
iBLAMEj00 23/01/20 11:50 pm For example, gaming sites typically like black
backgrounds.
sam 23/01/20 11:50 pm we can still use the black background
iBLAMEj00 23/01/20 11:50 pm I know many gaming people that don't visit a
site if it doesn't have a dark background.
sam 23/01/20 11:50 pm btw, i want to make megagames.com THE efront
gaming hub
sam 23/01/20 11:50 pm its not a big deal.. we can have a dark bg
iBLAMEj00 23/01/20 11:51 pm But, for babynames, you don't want a black
background.
sam 23/01/20 11:51 pm i meant black bg for gaming
sam 23/01/20 11:51 pm we plan on letting the background be variable
iBLAMEj00 23/01/20 11:51 pm Women won't visit a baby site that's black.
iBLAMEj00 23/01/20 11:52 pm Heh, black to white is a big range to get
images to work with =)
sam 23/01/20 11:52 pm we wont use images
sam 23/01/20 11:52 pm :)
iBLAMEj00 23/01/20 11:52 pm http://www.efront.com/gfx/headers/headers.htm
sam 23/01/20 11:52 pm except the logo
iBLAMEj00 23/01/20 11:52 pm Those are images.
sam 23/01/20 11:52 pm the efront logo has to be one color and stuff
but the babynames logo can be different color
and font
sam 23/01/20 11:53 pm it'll work well..:) lets see what the
designers come up with
sam 23/01/20 11:53 pm we wont do anything thats stupid obviously
sam 23/01/20 11:53 pm http://zone.msn.com/Default.asp?hb=f
sam 23/01/20 11:53 pm thats intersting..they chage the coloring of
their logo huh
iBLAMEj00 23/01/20 11:54 pm That would be more on the line of what I think
we should do.
iBLAMEj00 23/01/20 11:55 pm The problem is, the designers that will draw
this up have no clue as to how it would be
implemented in a site.
sam 23/01/20 11:55 pm well we have to start somewhere
sam 23/01/20 11:56 pm then give it to u to flush out
sam 23/01/20 11:56 pm and test it on a few sites
sam 23/01/20 11:56 pm thats why i said phase 1
phase 2 (testing period)
and phase 3 deployment
iBLAMEj00 23/01/20 11:56 pm I kinda like the zone.msn.com approach.
iBLAMEj00 23/01/20 11:57 pm Allow the site to still look right for the
market, but add a top level navigation at the
very top, eFront logo next to the site logo,
etc.
sam 23/01/20 11:57 pm just doing that wont work i dont think
sam 23/01/20 11:57 pm it'll look like a hodge podge circus
sam 23/01/20 11:58 pm no different than a 'ugo' button all over on
their crap
sam 23/01/20 11:58 pm we need to offer variable parameters no doubt
iBLAMEj00 23/01/20 11:58 pm Well, they don't do it quite right.
sam 23/01/20 11:58 pm the question is what is variable and whats
not.. and thats somehitng we all have to agree
on
iBLAMEj00 23/01/20 11:59 pm But, we can't make it too variable. We need
to use scripts to do all of this so it can be
changed.
iBLAMEj00 24/01/20 12:00 am And you need to think about how my logo will
be incorporated cause I ain't losing it =)
sam 24/01/20 12:01 am i know i alrady know.. like this
sam 24/01/20 12:01 am music.yahoo.com
sam 24/01/20 12:01 am see the logo to the right of 'music'
sam 24/01/20 12:01 am thats it :)
sam 24/01/20 12:03 am you said keep your logo
sam 24/01/20 12:03 am you didnt say how small :p
iBLAMEj00 24/01/20 12:11 am Heh, my logo and one that I can see =)
iBLAMEj00 24/01/20 12:12 am music.yahoo.com is another example of a 800
width page, that is so ghey.
iBLAMEj00 24/01/20 12:12 am You should see how stupid those pages look on
a 1600x1200 monitor.
sam 24/01/20 12:12 am matt was supposed to create a stats/web
interface admin for our goto stuff
iBLAMEj00 24/01/20 12:13 am Yea, that would be great.
sam 24/01/20 12:13 am financeyahoo.com
iBLAMEj00 24/01/20 12:13 am You want to know my honest opinion?
sam 24/01/20 12:13 am uses goto.com i showed him what we're doing
sam 24/01/20 12:13 am interesting what he has to say
sam 24/01/20 12:13 am sure.. your opinon on what
iBLAMEj00 24/01/20 12:13 am I think we should get people used to this buy
having everyone add a top eFront banner thing
to all pages.
sam 24/01/20 12:14 am sam: (8:10 AM) anyway you can fwd their
report..so i have an idea of how they work..
in terms of average cpc, etc.
Grand: (8:10 AM) yes
but i'm still not receive a $1000 montky
payment from You...
Grand: (8:12 AM) you need to setup ~10 servers
to serve their searches
sam: (8:12 AM) well we're trying to get paid
from our advertiser as well :( everyone is
stifffing us.. and i think we never had time
to follow up with the russian guy.. so one
time deal.. so if we pay you $1000 when we get
some $$ , lets call it even..
sam: (8:12 AM) 10 servers? ? how come?
Grand: (8:12 AM) tehy have STUPIDOUS XML
software
sam: (8:13 AM) is it slow or something?
Grand: (8:13 AM) absolutely slow
sam: (8:13 AM) do you pull data in
realtime..or do you cache it
iBLAMEj00 24/01/20 12:14 am I think if we had that, the top banner, and
the web guide on all pages, it would be do 90%
of what a template would do.
sam 24/01/20 12:15 am possibly.. but things would still be flakey..
inconsistent design.. and the problem with
thee webguide is that its everywhere AND IT
doesnt work!!
sam 24/01/20 12:15 am we want to drive clickthrus
sam 24/01/20 12:15 am Grand: (8:12 AM) tehy have STUPIDOUS XML
software
sam: (8:13 AM) is it slow or something?
Grand: (8:13 AM) absolutely slow
sam: (8:13 AM) do you pull data in
realtime..or do you cache it
Grand: (8:14 AM) they refuse to cashe it
sam: (8:14 AM) can you cache it yourself?
we're going to cache it :)
Grand: (8:15 AM) each visitor have to have
unique session code...
iBLAMEj00 24/01/20 12:16 am What's that about? GoTo?
sam 24/01/20 12:16 am yuppers
iBLAMEj00 24/01/20 12:17 am Heh, I like the plane that flys by =)
sam 24/01/20 12:18 am which plane
iBLAMEj00 24/01/20 12:18 am http://www.centerfind.com/finance/
iBLAMEj00 24/01/20 12:18 am A plane flies by.
iBLAMEj00 24/01/20 12:19 am Be right back, coffee run...
sam 24/01/20 12:20 am i dont see the plane..weird
iBLAMEj00 24/01/20 12:34 am It flys by, but maybe only the first time
you're on the page.
iBLAMEj00 24/01/20 12:34 am Hey, you want me to talk to megagames about
his pop-up?
sam 24/01/20 12:35 am sure .. i msged him buthe didnt reply back
yesterday..
iBLAMEj00 24/01/20 12:35 am I know how to deal with him on it.
iBLAMEj00 24/01/20 12:36 am "you've been found out and we have removed
your ftp access to your site" =)
iBLAMEj00 24/01/20 12:36 am j/k
sam 24/01/20 1:18 pm so euni wants to pay u 20k??
iBLAMEj00 24/01/20 1:18 pm Heh, yea.
sam 24/01/20 1:18 pm tell them you're getting ur server /hosting
for free so u dont see any need to move it
over
sam 24/01/20 1:18 pm but you want to work with them
sam 24/01/20 1:19 pm tell them efront sux
sam 24/01/20 1:19 pm but u been burnt
sam 24/01/20 1:19 pm and u want payment upfront every month
iBLAMEj00 24/01/20 1:19 pm Heh, yea, and have them serve my ads =)
sam 24/01/20 1:19 pm and you'll do a deal
sam 24/01/20 1:19 pm yeah.. so they cant screw us
sam 24/01/20 1:19 pm they screw alot of affiliates
sam 24/01/20 1:19 pm by taking over the mailling lists and spamming
them etc.
sam 24/01/20 1:19 pm alltheir affiliates who left told me
sam 24/01/20 1:20 pm and if we ever want to ditch them we 're not
depedant on them
iBLAMEj00 24/01/20 1:20 pm Yea, they have a big mailing list system.
iBLAMEj00 24/01/20 1:22 pm I'd bet it would be a hard sell if I was still
using arcadeathome.efront.com =)
sam 24/01/20 1:23 pm if we get 20k/month fromthem and we split it
50/50 .. we dont have to do aah.efront.com :)
iBLAMEj00 24/01/20 1:24 pm Heh
iBLAMEj00 24/01/20 1:26 pm You would think that they would prefer not to
host the site =)
iBLAMEj00 25/01/20 10:09 pm "Greg is just a black hole. I can't get a
response out of him"
iBLAMEj00 25/01/20 10:09 pm I think Greg should join the webmaster's
mailing list.
sam 25/01/20 11:40 pm does bay9.com use goto.com or is it their own?
anyway we can find out
iBLAMEj00 25/01/20 11:41 pm sec
iBLAMEj00 25/01/20 11:41 pm Hmmm, it's not goto.
sam 25/01/20 11:42 pm what do they use
iBLAMEj00 25/01/20 11:42 pm Maybe their own, let me look further.
iBLAMEj00 25/01/20 11:42 pm These are two searches for "diamonds"
http://www.bay9.com/cgi-local/search.cgi?keywo
d=diamonds&link=&clicktrade=
http://goto.com/d/search/?type=topbar&Keywords
diamonds
iBLAMEj00 25/01/20 11:43 pm They give total different results on goto and
bay9
sam 25/01/20 11:45 pm iknow
iBLAMEj00 25/01/20 11:45 pm It sure looks like it's their own.
iBLAMEj00 25/01/20 11:45 pm Contact them info@Bay9.com
sam 25/01/20 11:45 pm man we should start our own or something
sam 25/01/20 11:45 pm they must be making $$ huh
iBLAMEj00 25/01/20 11:45 pm Yea.
iBLAMEj00 25/01/20 11:45 pm And I also like their idea of bidding on
banner ads.
iBLAMEj00 25/01/20 11:45 pm A few companies are doing that now.
iBLAMEj00 25/01/20 11:46 pm tribalfusion.com
sam 25/01/20 11:46 pm our goto.com search results looks promositing
somethingawful=500 clicks yesterday
iBLAMEj00 25/01/20 11:46 pm Oh yea, It would be much better than the
current StoreRunner thingy with the micro
small images.
iBLAMEj00 25/01/20 11:47 pm Add it to astlavista.
iBLAMEj00 25/01/20 11:47 pm I like that the search is to go.com and the
results are from goto.com =)
sam 25/01/20 11:48 pm heh yeah
sam 25/01/20 11:48 pm we get paid from both :)
iBLAMEj00 25/01/20 11:48 pm Well, I'm sure we get paid or why would they
be there?
sam 25/01/20 11:48 pm we like mickey mouse
sam 25/01/20 11:49 pm http://www.nytimes.com/pages-technology/index.
tml?site=274&ban=283
sam 25/01/20 11:49 pm click on 'mining the deep web'
sam 25/01/20 11:49 pm and see where it takes u
sam 25/01/20 11:50 pm thats similar to what i wanna do on alot of
our popular traffic areas :)
iBLAMEj00 25/01/20 11:52 pm You mean content areas that are restricted?
iBLAMEj00 25/01/20 11:53 pm And have a bunch of direct marketing
promotions on that page as well as a mailing
list for the site.
sam 25/01/20 11:53 pm yeah...and offer direct marketing :)
iBLAMEj00 25/01/20 11:53 pm (notice the mailing list).
sam 25/01/20 11:53 pm nate is violently against it
iBLAMEj00 25/01/20 11:53 pm Really?
sam 25/01/20 11:53 pm i told him we're doing that 3 weeks ago
sam 25/01/20 11:53 pm and he said we'll lose all our traffic
sam 25/01/20 11:53 pm here's the thread even today:
iBLAMEj00 25/01/20 11:53 pm I'm talking to him now, let me see if I can
work on him.
sam 25/01/20 11:54 pm we'll do it no matter what he says :) but i
wanna do it right and thats where u come in,
always with a good balance :)
iBLAMEj00 25/01/20 11:54 pm Yea, it could be done wrong.
iBLAMEj00 25/01/20 11:54 pm We can't really use the wallstreetjournal as
an example, they have content people are
willing to PAY for.
sam 25/01/20 11:55 pm yeah but tahts nyt
sam 25/01/20 11:55 pm and yahoo does it
sam 25/01/20 11:55 pm for most of their services
sam 25/01/20 11:55 pm they have 150 mil registered users
iBLAMEj00 25/01/20 11:55 pm You just named two huge brand names.
iBLAMEj00 25/01/20 11:55 pm People will pay for brand names.
sam 25/01/20 11:56 pm but we're not charing them $$
iBLAMEj00 25/01/20 11:56 pm Like look at those silly chairs you guys have.
iBLAMEj00 25/01/20 11:56 pm Those chairs are worth $50.
iBLAMEj00 25/01/20 11:56 pm Yet you'll pay $1500 for them.
sam 25/01/20 11:57 pm there's no fee involved..free registrration..
even just email and name
sam 25/01/20 11:57 pm sure not everyone will register
iBLAMEj00 25/01/20 11:57 pm Yea, but what I'm getting at is that people
are willing to even pay for brand names, so
registering is LESS than they would expect.
sam 25/01/20 11:57 pm but the people who dont, well we're not making
any $ from them anyways
iBLAMEj00 25/01/20 11:58 pm It has to be content that they REALLY want.
sam 25/01/20 11:58 pm obviously..
iBLAMEj00 25/01/20 11:58 pm And that they would even be willing to pay to
get. So registration is an easy "sell".
iBLAMEj00 25/01/20 11:59 pm How about I just setup a paypal area of my
site =)
iBLAMEj00 25/01/20 11:59 pm Like $5/month
sam 26/01/20 12:00 am try anything and see what works
sam 26/01/20 12:00 am thats what the web's about :)
iBLAMEj00 26/01/20 12:00 am Yea, I try shit all the time. Maybe with the
new server I'd try a paypal system.
iBLAMEj00 26/01/20 12:01 am Like you said, if they are not going to click,
pay, or register, why do we need them.
iBLAMEj00 26/01/20 12:01 am leeches don't pay the bills.
sam 26/01/20 12:02 am yeah.. too bad you live in ohio.. you'd be
great as part of our Revenue R&D lab :)
iBLAMEj00 26/01/20 12:02 am Heh
iBLAMEj00 26/01/20 12:03 am Too bad you can't pay me enough to live in
California...
sam 26/01/20 12:03 am too bad you cant manage yourmoney and live
like a pauper like us :)
iBLAMEj00 26/01/20 12:04 am Heh
sam 26/01/20 12:05 am efront is on a CPR model then :) Click, Pay,
Register (or get lost)
iBLAMEj00 26/01/20 12:06 am Actually...
iBLAMEj00 26/01/20 12:06 am I like the "token" system also.
sam 26/01/20 12:06 am micropayments?
iBLAMEj00 26/01/20 12:06 am Where you get tokens for doing different
things.
sam 26/01/20 12:06 am aha like mypoints
sam 26/01/20 12:06 am ?
iBLAMEj00 26/01/20 12:06 am Tokens gets you access to certain areas.
iBLAMEj00 26/01/20 12:06 am And free stuff.
iBLAMEj00 26/01/20 12:06 am Yea, or iwon.
iBLAMEj00 26/01/20 12:07 am Sign up for the mailing list, get 50 tokens.
sam 26/01/20 12:07 am i tal;ked to 24/7 about using their token
system.. they wanted to charge us all sorts of
$
sam 26/01/20 12:07 am i told them to get lost
sam 26/01/20 12:07 am but i tried to do that 3-4 months ago :(
iBLAMEj00 26/01/20 12:07 am Visit a goto search result, get 10 tokens =)
iBLAMEj00 26/01/20 12:08 am And sites could do differnet things to "cash
in" their tokens.
iBLAMEj00 26/01/20 12:08 am Like I could have on-line games that people
would need tokens to play.
sam 26/01/20 12:08 am http://www.awardtrack.com/
iBLAMEj00 26/01/20 12:10 am http://arcadeathome.efront.com/test.phtml
iBLAMEj00 26/01/20 12:10 am And at the top it could show your id and your
current token total that could be used on any
eFront site.
sam 26/01/20 12:11 am yeah
iBLAMEj00 26/01/20 12:11 am That sample also auto-adjusts to the site of
your window.
iBLAMEj00 26/01/20 12:11 am So it doesn't look stupid at 1600x1200.
sam 26/01/20 12:13 am yeah i told our webguys to do that
sam 26/01/20 12:13 am variable width
sam 26/01/20 12:13 am since u told me to do that:)
iBLAMEj00 26/01/20 12:15 am Heh, if they didn't do it variable width
anyway, they should have been fired, it would
have been a good test =)
sam 26/01/20 12:15 am well nate didnt like variable width last time
or something
sam 26/01/20 12:15 am they just do what they;'re told:)
iBLAMEj00 26/01/20 12:16 am Now that I just don't get.
iBLAMEj00 26/01/20 12:16 am Why would you only want to use 800 pixels if
the screen is 1600.
iBLAMEj00 26/01/20 12:17 am I think the answer is that it's easier to do a
fixed width.
iBLAMEj00 26/01/20 12:17 am That's the only REAL reason.
iBLAMEj00 26/01/20 12:18 am Okay, do you want to restrict ALL areas of ALL
sites?
iBLAMEj00 26/01/20 12:19 am Nate's right in certain cases. Like if you
had to register to search for a baby name,
most would just leave.
sam 26/01/20 12:19 am well no of course not.. we need to be careful
and selectivve
sam 26/01/20 12:19 am that would be stupid to do that
iBLAMEj00 26/01/20 12:20 am Now, we could say that we don't need them
anyway, but since your contracts with the
webmasters are for banner ads, it will be a
fight.
iBLAMEj00 26/01/20 12:20 am Okay, I think you and Nate mostly agree then.
sam 26/01/20 12:20 am nate just gets alarmed :)
iBLAMEj00 26/01/20 12:20 am Heh, that's good though.
sam 26/01/20 12:20 am yeah
sam 26/01/20 12:21 am good balance
iBLAMEj00 26/01/20 12:21 am You can't be surrounded by yes men =)
sam 26/01/20 12:21 am yes
iBLAMEj00 26/01/20 12:21 am no
sam 26/01/20 12:21 am yes sir
iBLAMEj00 26/01/20 12:21 am heh
iBLAMEj00 26/01/20 12:35 am I finally got that Redmoon CD yesterday.
iBLAMEj00 26/01/20 12:37 am Did you get that message about the nude
pictures on that site of ours?
sam 26/01/20 12:40 am ya
iBLAMEj00 26/01/20 12:40 am Was that known, and tollerated?
sam 26/01/20 12:40 am no
sam 26/01/20 12:41 am its a french site..and he had all sorts of
stuff before
iBLAMEj00 26/01/20 12:41 am Ouch, he also has like every Playboy calendar
too, ouch.
sam 26/01/20 12:41 am and nicolas (our french director) got him to
remove it all
sam 26/01/20 12:41 am before we signed him up
sam 26/01/20 12:41 am he mustuve put it back on
iBLAMEj00 26/01/20 12:41 am Well, he added it back =)
iBLAMEj00 26/01/20 12:42 am The Playboy stuff is the worst. Not only
porn, but also copyrighted by Playboy.
sam 26/01/20 12:42 am ya i know
iBLAMEj00 26/01/20 12:42 am He seriously has every centerfold for the last
10 years.
iBLAMEj00 26/01/20 12:49 am How about leaving the bottom ad and turning it
into our cross-promotion tool?
sam 26/01/20 12:51 am yeah we could play with stuff like that..
although the biggest cross promotional tool
we'd like to establish is top down traffic..
the new design will try to do that
sam 26/01/20 12:51 am well gotta get into work :)
iBLAMEj00 26/01/20 12:52 am About time... =)
sam 26/01/20 12:52 am hey i been working all morning :)
iBLAMEj00 26/01/20 12:52 am It's almost afternoon!
sam 26/01/20 12:52 am for u
iBLAMEj00 26/01/20 12:52 am You California slackers and your noon start
times.
sam 26/01/20 12:52 am thats matt & nate (4pm start time)
iBLAMEj00 26/01/20 12:53 am Heh
iBLAMEj00 26/01/20 12:53 am "but I worked all night"
sam 26/01/20 12:53 am seriously :) kid him bout that
sam 26/01/20 12:53 am ya that what they say
iBLAMEj00 26/01/20 12:53 am translation: "streaming porn all night"
iBLAMEj00 26/01/20 12:53 am Well, Nate's working this morning =)
sam 26/01/20 12:53 am say that
"webmasters on the egroups list are saying
that nate doesnt start working till 4pm.. no
wonder we have server problems etc."
sam 26/01/20 12:53 am hehe
iBLAMEj00 26/01/20 12:54 am He msg me before you did =)
sam 26/01/20 12:54 am he'll be annoyed:)
sam 26/01/20 12:54 am yeah but i only msged u when i needed u :)
iBLAMEj00 26/01/20 12:54 am Heh
iBLAMEj00 26/01/20 12:54 am This is how Nate started the conversation:
Nate - Operations:
feuhfuhu3rhu2i2e2eh2eiu2euhe2hb22ebho2
sam 26/01/20 12:54 am heh
sam 26/01/20 12:55 am thats our root passwd
iBLAMEj00 26/01/20 12:55 am That's how his forehead types.
iBLAMEj00 26/01/20 12:55 am Heh, that's what I asked =)
iBLAMEj00 26/01/20 12:55 am iBLAMEj00: Is that my password?
sam 27/01/20 2:43 pm hey whats up
iBLAMEj00 28/01/20 1:28 am Hey
sam 28/01/20 3:53 am anything new going on?
iBLAMEj00 28/01/20 3:54 am I'm looking for custom plates that are not
registered. Does that count?
sam 28/01/20 3:54 am heh
iBLAMEj00 28/01/20 3:55 am Hey, I registered 8008135.com and it looks
like someone else has it.
iBLAMEj00 28/01/20 3:55 am What's up with that?
iBLAMEj00 28/01/20 3:55 am I'm hoping 31337 isn't taken.
iBLAMEj00 28/01/20 3:55 am 8008135 would be good also.
iBLAMEj00 28/01/20 3:55 am Maybe get that one for my wife.
sam 28/01/20 3:55 am whats 80008125
iBLAMEj00 28/01/20 3:56 am 8=B
0=O
1=I
3=E
5=S
sam 28/01/20 3:56 am boies?
sam 28/01/20 3:57 am um ok:)
iBLAMEj00 28/01/20 3:58 am Oh, I still have it =)
sam 28/01/20 3:58 am weird
iBLAMEj00 28/01/20 3:59 am Try timeckel.com or lucaseckel.com or
claireeckel.com (my kids).
sam 28/01/20 6:45 am mci cutting 10k jobs
iBLAMEj00 28/01/20 7:06 am Gotta do what you gotta do to keep profits up.
iBLAMEj00 28/01/20 7:06 am I bet MCI cutting jobs by 10k is probably just
via early retirement packages.
sam 28/01/20 7:06 am we shoul.d give our webmasters 'early
retirement packages'
iBLAMEj00 28/01/20 7:06 am Yea.
sam 28/01/20 7:07 am i did that yesterday for avfind
sam 28/01/20 7:07 am gave him 10 cents on the dollar
sam 28/01/20 7:07 am and we keep the site.. and he goes away.. he
was happy
iBLAMEj00 28/01/20 7:07 am Heh, 10 cents on the dollar for just one
month?
sam 28/01/20 7:07 am now we can monetize it however we feel like it
:) i really like taht
sam 28/01/20 7:07 am no he had 5 months left or something
iBLAMEj00 28/01/20 7:08 am Oh.
iBLAMEj00 28/01/20 7:08 am Like a Stas deal.
sam 28/01/20 7:08 am yup!!
sam 28/01/20 7:08 am those deals are good
sam 28/01/20 7:08 am i'd like to do that for alot of the sites that
doesnt require specialized webmasters
iBLAMEj00 28/01/20 7:09 am Well, every top site list we have don't need a
webmaster.
sam 28/01/20 7:09 am thats true.. do u think i should try to buy
out tukoo
iBLAMEj00 28/01/20 7:09 am And I mean at all.
iBLAMEj00 28/01/20 7:09 am I'm not sure if we want tukoo, something's not
right there.
sam 28/01/20 7:10 am 51k users a day.. just weird for him to fake
that
iBLAMEj00 28/01/20 7:10 am Well, lots of sites cheat top sites via an
iframe or other tricks.
iBLAMEj00 28/01/20 7:11 am It could be inflating the visitors. Also, his
click rate is too high.
iBLAMEj00 28/01/20 7:11 am avfind doesn't even use a background color,
looks ghey.
iBLAMEj00 28/01/20 7:16 am How's goto going?
sam 28/01/20 7:16 am matts gone away for a week..and im trying to
get nate to get eric (programmer) to get me
stats
iBLAMEj00 28/01/20 7:16 am :(
iBLAMEj00 28/01/20 7:18 am Is our ad server crapping out or is it down
the line?
sam 28/01/20 7:18 am our ad server
sam 28/01/20 7:18 am ovrload
iBLAMEj00 28/01/20 7:19 am I guess a good problem to have =)
iBLAMEj00 28/01/20 7:21 am Hey, here's a seganet ad.
sam 28/01/20 7:21 am yeah i think thats a small campaign
iBLAMEj00 28/01/20 7:21 am :(
sam 28/01/20 7:21 am Nate: (3:20 PM) drazen says its the
globalcenter boxes which are crashing
stuff..not too sure..he was going to find the
GC noc number
sam 28/01/20 7:21 am ill try to get access to the goto.com coding..
so we can mess w/ it :)
iBLAMEj00 28/01/20 7:22 am Yea, like the search keywords.
iBLAMEj00 28/01/20 7:22 am Look at babynames.com and look at the crappy
search results.
iBLAMEj00 28/01/20 7:23 am "Add Videogame News to Your Site!"
sam 28/01/20 7:23 am i know.. im trying to get nate to give me the
vpn access.. he's busy with reformating or
smethig
iBLAMEj00 28/01/20 7:23 am Yea, that will get a lot of clicks.
iBLAMEj00 28/01/20 7:24 am Heh, they tried to move me like 3 times now
and every time they have to do something else
=)
iBLAMEj00 28/01/20 7:30 am http://kebie.efront.com/
when you type in Kebie.com it forwards to
http://kebie.efront.com. Efront.com thinks
this is a good way to advertise their
god-awful site that contains no original
content.
iBLAMEj00 28/01/20 7:31 am Someone's trying to make friends =)
sam 28/01/20 7:31 am we should fire kebie
sam 28/01/20 7:31 am can you tell him we're kicking him out
iBLAMEj00 28/01/20 7:34 am I know he's smaller, what's his cpm rate in
his contract?
sam 28/01/20 7:34 am ill find out
iBLAMEj00 28/01/20 7:34 am Kebie: what is going on with this "gaming
section seperation" thing?
Kebie: the marketing part is splitting off
sam 28/01/20 7:34 am tell him to shut the fuck up
sam 28/01/20 7:34 am and focus on his content
sam 28/01/20 7:34 am and put our stuff up
iBLAMEj00 28/01/20 7:34 am Heh
iBLAMEj00 28/01/20 2:02 pm You gonna play taps for my server come
Wednesday?
iBLAMEj00 01/02/20 1:45 am I could have just got my server working myself
if I only had access to anything.
sam 01/02/20 1:46 am i know.. i was trying to get access myself..
ask Marc F. for access btw.
iBLAMEj00 01/02/20 1:46 am Webmasters can't even help if they can't get
access to the servers.
iBLAMEj00 01/02/20 1:47 am What's Marc's ICQ #
iBLAMEj00 01/02/20 1:47 am I've been considering just contacting s4r and
have them do it
iBLAMEj00 01/02/20 2:40 am I'm going to do my site myself, being down
this long is like a death sentence.
sam 01/02/20 2:48 am they were up last 48 hours i think.. they just
went to bed now.. now sure what/how to do
sam 02/02/20 12:52 pm i called up s/w and got all the ip info etc.
and bitched them out @ 3 :)
iBLAMEj00 02/02/20 12:52 pm Heh, cool =)
sam 02/02/20 12:52 pm everything workiey beter?
iBLAMEj00 02/02/20 12:52 pm Not everything, but about 50%.
sam 02/02/20 12:53 pm whtas the 50%
iBLAMEj00 02/02/20 12:53 pm We are missing a server :/
iBLAMEj00 02/02/20 1:18 pm Gotta love those stats:
2001-01-27 127,400
2001-01-28 110,800
2001-01-29 79,800
2001-02-01 8,300
sam 02/02/20 1:19 pm we cant cheat exitfuel as good now hehe
iBLAMEj00 02/02/20 1:19 pm Cheat exitfuel? How's that?
sam 02/02/20 1:20 pm nate was showing me u were cheating
internetfuel or something :)
iBLAMEj00 02/02/20 1:20 pm No.
iBLAMEj00 02/02/20 1:21 pm I cheat top site lists.
sam 02/02/20 1:21 pm he showed me :)
sam 02/02/20 1:21 pm thats cool i dont care
iBLAMEj00 02/02/20 1:21 pm Actually, he doesn't know what he was looking
at if he things I was cheating a sponsor.
sam 02/02/20 1:23 pm heh probalby.. thats cool.. man i think
storerunner is going to go out of business
sam 02/02/20 1:23 pm fuck, all our psonsors are going by the
wayside
iBLAMEj00 02/02/20 1:24 pm Oh, maybe he saw I was cheating linkexchange?
sam 02/02/20 1:25 pm maybe..doesnt matter.. so anyways, all the
sponsors are going away
direct marketnig is doing really good.. i
think me and u have to work on the goto.com
stuff soon
iBLAMEj00 02/02/20 1:25 pm Well, actually it does matter to me.
iBLAMEj00 02/02/20 1:27 pm Something's really quirky about the new host.
sam 02/02/20 1:28 pm que?
iBLAMEj00 02/02/20 1:28 pm no, huge delays.
sam 02/02/20 1:28 pm talk to nate? nate said it was wesome
iBLAMEj00 02/02/20 1:29 pm maybe "wesome"
sam 02/02/20 1:30 pm wealsp,e
sam 02/02/20 1:30 pm weaksome?
iBLAMEj00 02/02/20 1:35 pm stallsome
iBLAMEj00 02/02/20 1:36 pm It's weird, their network looks ultra clean,
no collisions.
sam 02/02/20 1:36 pm what does nate say
sam 02/02/20 1:36 pm maybe its everyone downloading roms?
iBLAMEj00 02/02/20 1:36 pm Nate - Operations: hrmmm
sam 02/02/20 1:36 pm :)
iBLAMEj00 02/02/20 1:36 pm Heh, ROMs are down.
iBLAMEj00 02/02/20 1:36 pm That's the 50% that ain't working =)
sam 02/02/20 1:37 pm hopefully nate's working on that :)
iBLAMEj00 02/02/20 1:39 pm Yea, I gotta get back to cheating exitfuel =)
sam 02/02/20 1:40 pm :)
sam 02/02/20 2:08 pm r u done w/ ur vacatoin
iBLAMEj00 02/02/20 2:08 pm Yea
iBLAMEj00 02/02/20 2:08 pm Got home last night.
sam 02/02/20 2:08 pm i can tell dennis to bug ya :)
cool did u have fun
iBLAMEj00 02/02/20 2:11 pm Yea, long drive :/
iBLAMEj00 02/02/20 10:20 pm 9:13AM up 15:57, 1 user, load averages:
163.01, 164.15, 150.74
I think my server has been up for 15 hours and
I already killed it =)
sam 03/02/20 12:25 am fucker lowtax.. he's complaining about
communication )
sam 03/02/20 12:25 am :)
iBLAMEj00 03/02/20 12:25 am New rule, don't buy "funny" sites.
sam 03/02/20 12:25 am ijust fwd u an email heh
yeah i know!!!
iBLAMEj00 03/02/20 12:32 am PS: If somebody wants to send me $100,000 for
sitting in my apartment and updating this
site, you can contact me here (assuming eFront
hasn't crashed this server yet).
iBLAMEj00 03/02/20 12:32 am Heh, the guy *is* funny though =)
sam 03/02/20 12:34 am heh who is that
sam 03/02/20 12:34 am well better than PA guys
sam 03/02/20 12:35 am they're little pricks
iBLAMEj00 03/02/20 12:35 am Yea, PA are wankers. LowTax really is funny.
sam 03/02/20 12:36 am ya.. but we aint communiating with him if he
posts everything we say.. what does he think,
we're stupid? hah
iBLAMEj00 03/02/20 12:36 am I'll tollerate him a little longer because he
really is funny and he's not selling a $100
comic book. Although, now that I think about
it, that is kinda funny.
sam 03/02/20 12:36 am 100 comic book hehe1
iBLAMEj00 03/02/20 12:37 am hehehe, that's their best funny yet.
sam 03/02/20 12:20 pm hey did u ever get access to the search.php
stuff..
iBLAMEj00 03/02/20 12:20 pm I didn't need it at the current time, I got
the answers via another route.
sam 03/02/20 12:20 pm ok
sam 03/02/20 12:20 pm were they wrong with the search= stuifff
iBLAMEj00 03/02/20 12:22 pm I can't find anything on that. I'll wait till
they show exactly where it's happening.
sam 03/02/20 12:23 pm yeah.. hopefully we get it resolved so we can
earn $ from them :)
sam 03/02/20 12:23 pm heh so nate was saying u were threatening to
blow up our vpn or something huh :)
iBLAMEj00 03/02/20 12:24 pm Huh?
iBLAMEj00 03/02/20 12:24 pm I said it's a piece.
iBLAMEj00 03/02/20 12:24 pm It don't work for me.
sam 03/02/20 12:25 pm ya.. i jjus said u're gettin frustratd w/ the
downtime, new setup, etc.
iBLAMEj00 03/02/20 12:25 pm Yea, I'm still half down :/
sam 03/02/20 12:25 pm the rom stuff huh?
sam 03/02/20 12:26 pm i thought we didnt host the rom stuff.. that
it was on a server in taiwan :)
iBLAMEj00 03/02/20 12:26 pm Heh, yea, it's in taiwan =)
iBLAMEj00 03/02/20 12:29 pm The site will eventually be worthless without
'em.
sam 03/02/20 12:29 pm if they're in taiwan, whats the problem?
iBLAMEj00 03/02/20 12:29 pm Heh, they ain't
iBLAMEj00 03/02/20 12:30 pm They ain't anywhere.
sam 03/02/20 12:30 pm nate said u just want ur own server or
something? they're not live anywhere?
iBLAMEj00 03/02/20 12:31 pm Heh, the server was down for 2 days so I
submitted my own DNS changes and was planning
a server to host A@H.
sam 03/02/20 12:31 pm hows the traffic now?
sam 03/02/20 12:32 pm nate said he's trying to find a place for the
stuff
iBLAMEj00 03/02/20 12:33 pm It will be less than 50% and go down from
there.
iBLAMEj00 03/02/20 12:34 pm So I guess the server overloading won't last
too long =)
sam 03/02/20 12:34 pm but we're going to get the rom stuf fixed asap
iBLAMEj00 03/02/20 12:44 pm I went from 4th to 60th at eFront =)
iBLAMEj00 03/02/20 12:44 pm That's gotta get an award or something.
sam 03/02/20 12:45 pm where do u log in to check the stats
iBLAMEj00 03/02/20 12:46 pm http://cais21.netwhirl.com/RealMedia/donetwork
php3
iBLAMEj00 03/02/20 12:46 pm Well,
http://cais21.netwhirl.com/RealMedia/sam.php3
sam 03/02/20 12:46 pm ya working nw..weird wasnt working 5 mins ago
sam 03/02/20 12:59 pm why do u need a dediated box for the roms..
can we put it on one of our current servers
iBLAMEj00 03/02/20 1:02 pm It shared a box before. Maybe it's an IP
issue or just the load.
iBLAMEj00 03/02/20 1:02 pm I can use 110% of two boxes esily.
iBLAMEj00 03/02/20 1:02 pm easily even =)
sam 03/02/20 1:02 pm jeez
sam 03/02/20 1:02 pm how many boxes did u have @ cais
iBLAMEj00 03/02/20 1:03 pm 2
iBLAMEj00 03/02/20 1:03 pm Or just one box with lotsa' RAM and bandwidth
=)
iBLAMEj00 03/02/20 1:04 pm I didn't have 100% of both boxes, a couple
small sites were on each.
sam 03/02/20 1:06 pm so these boxes have less ram, etc?
iBLAMEj00 03/02/20 1:08 pm The new servers have less ram than I had
before.
iBLAMEj00 03/02/20 1:08 pm RAM's the thing I run out of.
sam 03/02/20 1:08 pm how much ram? noway you can work around the
issues or whatever?
sam 03/02/20 1:08 pm was it1gb before and 512 now?
iBLAMEj00 03/02/20 1:08 pm Like my new server rebooted at least 3 times
today when it used up all the RAM.
iBLAMEj00 03/02/20 1:09 pm Like tonight I had to stick two files out on a
digiweb server cause the server load on my
server was in the 400s =)
sam 03/02/20 1:10 pm how much ram do u need
sam 03/02/20 1:10 pm that was missing befor
sam 03/02/20 1:10 pm er that was there before
iBLAMEj00 03/02/20 1:11 pm It had 512MB before, but it was crapping out a
lot and now I'm hosting the html for the
download stuff.
iBLAMEj00 03/02/20 1:12 pm The download server had 1GB before, and I
could use all of that also =) But, that was
on cais's shitty network.
sam 03/02/20 1:13 pm so what do we need to do to make u a happy
camper
iBLAMEj00 03/02/20 1:13 pm I'm a happy camper anyway.
iBLAMEj00 03/02/20 1:14 pm I'd like a dedicated 100Mbps line and a server
with 3GB of RAM =)
sam 03/02/20 1:15 pm which camp is that for?
iBLAMEj00 03/02/20 1:16 pm The camp of waking up breathing every morning.
sam 03/02/20 1:16 pm thats living,not camping :)
iBLAMEj00 03/02/20 1:17 pm Oh
sam 03/02/20 1:21 pm is NFShaving a problemright now
iBLAMEj00 03/02/20 1:22 pm Don't know what it is to know if it's a
problem or not.
iBLAMEj00 04/02/20 2:22 am Can I just buy 512MB of RAM and have it
installed on that server?. The server is
getting hit SO hard.
sam 04/02/20 2:27 am good idea.. will that fix everything (adding
512 mb ram)
iBLAMEj00 04/02/20 2:27 am Everything? No, but the immediate problem =)
Try to go to arcadeathome.efront.com
sam 04/02/20 2:29 am what box do you want the 512 mb ram
iBLAMEj00 04/02/20 2:30 am The only box =) 64.156.174.76
iBLAMEj00 04/02/20 2:30 am And softaware never changed arcadeathome.com,
it still points to the old server.
iBLAMEj00 04/02/20 2:30 am I'm going to e-mail them and fake that I'm
nate =)
sam 04/02/20 2:30 am what is the internal ip of the box
sam 04/02/20 2:31 am is it box 12 or something
sam 04/02/20 2:31 am (im sending s4r an email right now toadd 512
mb ram)
iBLAMEj00 04/02/20 2:31 am 46
sam 04/02/20 2:32 am box46.lax.netwhirl.com ?
iBLAMEj00 04/02/20 2:32 am Heh, I just telnet into the server and it
replied "Out of memory"
sam 04/02/20 2:32 am 10.1.40.46?
iBLAMEj00 04/02/20 2:33 am That's the internal IP
iBLAMEj00 04/02/20 2:33 am On the outside it's 64.156.174.76
sam 04/02/20 2:33 am ok i just sent them an email
iBLAMEj00 04/02/20 2:33 am box36.lax.netwhirl.com
iBLAMEj00 04/02/20 2:34 am box36.lax.netwhirl.com = 64.156.174.76
iBLAMEj00 04/02/20 2:34 am Damn, I've gotta do something, brb
sam 04/02/20 2:34 am ohhh box36?
iBLAMEj00 04/02/20 4:56 am megagames.com is down
iBLAMEj00 04/02/20 4:57 am I just called s4r and had them reboot my box,
I've found that if you just call and act like
you are supposed to be calling, people will do
just about anything for you.
iBLAMEj00 04/02/20 4:58 am I wonder if I could call and get one of
yahoo's servers to be rebooted =)
sam 04/02/20 4:58 am heh :)can u get megagames rebooted too
man, s4r is supposed to be monitoring the shit
sam 04/02/20 4:58 am ill get on them monday see why they're not
monitoring
iBLAMEj00 04/02/20 4:58 am box36 has been down for 2 hours
iBLAMEj00 04/02/20 4:59 am megagames may be a dns problem.
sam 04/02/20 5:00 am i wonder why we're having a dns problem now..
it was up for a long time
iBLAMEj00 04/02/20 5:00 am It's weird, both boxes give an error quickly,
it usually doesn't do that when a server is
down.
iBLAMEj00 04/02/20 5:01 am Like mine waits forever
sam 04/02/20 5:01 am wel s4r is allowed to log into the servers and
everything.. we pay them $500 per box to
manage the boxes
sam 04/02/20 5:02 am its not like cais
sam 04/02/20 5:02 am which just does p/c
sam 04/02/20 5:02 am s4r is supposed to monitor, manage, optimize,
the box, hardward, operating system, networks
iBLAMEj00 04/02/20 5:02 am I think I've seen them in my box when the
server was overloaded. jgleason or some user
like that.
iBLAMEj00 04/02/20 5:03 am Is that a eFront employee?
sam 04/02/20 5:03 am ya thats efront..not s4r
iBLAMEj00 04/02/20 5:03 am Ah
iBLAMEj00 04/02/20 5:06 am I've wrote my own scripts to check to see if
my server(s) are working and then I get an
e-mail on my cell phone that gives me a
problem description.
iBLAMEj00 04/02/20 5:06 am It would be easy to create a script that would
check each of our servers and contact someone.
sam 04/02/20 5:07 am ya i think matt had that too.. but s4r is 24x7
and supposed to fix it ..and be proactive
meaning they shouldnt even let problemsoccur
:)
iBLAMEj00 04/02/20 5:09 am Well, pay me the $500/box and I'll write the
script and it will contact me and I'll phone
up s4r =)
iBLAMEj00 04/02/20 5:09 am Ahh, what the hell, I'm in a good mood, I'll
do it for $400/box
sam 04/02/20 5:09 am heh
iBLAMEj00 04/02/20 5:10 am And it will warn me when the loads are getting
high on the boxes so I know about the problem
before the server is down.
iBLAMEj00 04/02/20 5:30 am I want root access to all servers and on every
authority list so I can get things done
myself.
iBLAMEj00 04/02/20 5:30 am f-it, I'm going to just pretend to be nate and
see how it goes.
sam 04/02/20 5:31 am but you said if u were a betting man, you'd
have your bet on nate :)
iBLAMEj00 04/02/20 5:32 am bet on what?
iBLAMEj00 04/02/20 5:32 am I think nate's great, just got too much going
on.
sam 04/02/20 5:32 am like 3-4 weeks ago.. you said nate is
awesome..and you'd bet on nate :)
yeah i know.. imtrying to get him to let other
people help him
sam 04/02/20 5:33 am but he wants to do everything himself
sam 04/02/20 5:34 am i called nate like 3 times
sam 04/02/20 5:34 am i think he's sleeping damn
sam 04/02/20 5:35 am not sure how we can get megagames back up
iBLAMEj00 04/02/20 5:35 am I'll get megagames back up.
iBLAMEj00 04/02/20 5:36 am Check your e-mail.
iBLAMEj00 04/02/20 5:42 am Heh
sam 04/02/20 5:45 am nice..can u do the same for megagames
iBLAMEj00 04/02/20 5:46 am Yea, I'll do that now.
sam 04/02/20 5:46 am and sitefights
iBLAMEj00 04/02/20 5:48 am There's some kind of network outage cause jenn
can't get to babynames yet I can.
sam 04/02/20 5:48 am i can get to babynames
sam 04/02/20 5:48 am it must be her isp
iBLAMEj00 04/02/20 5:58 am www.thesitefights.com doesn't even point to
s4r
iBLAMEj00 04/02/20 5:58 am It's still going to cais.
sam 04/02/20 5:58 am can we get the dns changed over to s4r
iBLAMEj00 04/02/20 5:58 am If I knew what server they were on.
sam 04/02/20 5:58 am i wonder why nate waits till the last last
second
sam 04/02/20 5:58 am damn
iBLAMEj00 04/02/20 6:00 am Even then, I'd also need access to route the
domain to the correct virtual server.
sam 04/02/20 6:01 am talk about planning huh
iBLAMEj00 04/02/20 6:01 am I think nate wants control of everything,
which is fine, but I think there's too much
for him to do.
sam 04/02/20 6:01 am im going to unassign all server stuff from
nate
iBLAMEj00 04/02/20 6:01 am Like I asked him if I could be added to the
list to authorize VPN and DNS changes and he
didn't like that idea =)
sam 04/02/20 6:02 am and assign it to ..
g3 ->s4r contact
helpdesk->webmaster request
helpdesk -> marc f (evaluate issues) -> fwd to
s4r
sam 04/02/20 6:02 am no more nate :)
sam 04/02/20 6:02 am we'll have him do srunner stuff or somehing
sam 04/02/20 6:03 am iave had like dozens of pissed off webmasters
on my hand.. i dont raelly know wht to tell
them:/
iBLAMEj00 04/02/20 6:03 am Heh, yea, there's probably better stuff for
him to do. But, after these server moves and
if s4r does their job, it could fix itself. I
think that's what nate is figuring.
sam 04/02/20 6:03 am yah i think so.. but man, never let techies do
project planning agin :)
iBLAMEj00 04/02/20 6:03 am And I left that stupid list because they were
all just bitching about the dumbest things.
sam 04/02/20 6:03 am oh hehe
sam 04/02/20 6:03 am what were they bitching about last time :)
sam 04/02/20 6:04 am hey any luck on euni?
iBLAMEj00 04/02/20 6:04 am Kevin the guy that runs mpog (which doesn't
have an eFront contract yet is on the list)
was trying to stir up some kind of censorship
crap about a redmoon review.
sam 04/02/20 6:05 am we should fire him
iBLAMEj00 04/02/20 6:05 am He wanted everyont to link to his review.
iBLAMEj00 04/02/20 6:05 am I told everying that Kevin shouldn't be on the
list, and I'm leaving the list till he's
removed, and if anyone links to that review,
I'll do everything in my power to make sure
they never get paid =)
iBLAMEj00 04/02/20 6:06 am And I left =)
iBLAMEj00 04/02/20 6:06 am I'm on the phone with s4r now about megagames.
sam 04/02/20 6:06 am great.. tell them to figure it out
themselves.. we pay them good money :)
sam 04/02/20 6:08 am i had to let our designer radoslav go
yesterday
sam 04/02/20 6:08 am and another person chris higgins to
sam 04/02/20 6:08 am our direct marketing dept (newly reated) is
doing good
they made 7k yesterday
sam 04/02/20 6:09 am (thats the win a ps2 thingy)
sam 04/02/20 6:09 am we have 2 telemarketers starting monday
iBLAMEj00 04/02/20 6:09 am You got them on a quota?
sam 04/02/20 6:09 am more than that
sam 04/02/20 6:09 am they have to close an order every other day
they have a performance review m,w,f @ 4:30 pm
iBLAMEj00 04/02/20 6:10 am Really, you could hire almost unlimited sales
people as long as they are on a quota.
sam 04/02/20 6:10 am thats what im going to do.. hire unlimited
telemarketers
sam 04/02/20 6:10 am and put them on warm lead quota.. they get
6/hr
sam 04/02/20 6:10 am + 6 per every warm lead thats on the phone
iBLAMEj00 04/02/20 6:10 am And really, with the turn-over, you should be
interviewing constantly even if you're not
hiring today.
sam 04/02/20 6:11 am and if they get 100 leads a month, they get a
$200 bionus
sam 04/02/20 6:11 am thats the plan:)
iBLAMEj00 04/02/20 6:11 am Oooh, $200 bonus, where do I sign up?
sam 04/02/20 6:11 am we're going to leave out ad in the o.c.
register for awhile
sam 04/02/20 6:11 am hehe
sam 04/02/20 6:11 am u can help nate on the servers.. that will be
more than good :)
sam 04/02/20 6:11 am + dennis on srunner
sam 04/02/20 6:11 am i still gotta figure out where matt put that
stupid goto code
iBLAMEj00 04/02/20 6:12 am Heh
iBLAMEj00 04/02/20 6:12 am Where's Matt?
sam 04/02/20 6:12 am JAMAICA!!!!!!
iBLAMEj00 04/02/20 6:12 am BASTARD!!!!!
sam 04/02/20 6:12 am the little fucker left in themiddle of the
move
sam 04/02/20 6:12 am i didnt even know he was gone he left last
friday morning
sam 04/02/20 6:12 am @ 5am
iBLAMEj00 04/02/20 6:12 am You should clean his office out as a coming
home party.
sam 04/02/20 6:13 am i told drazen why did u drive him to the
airport
sam 04/02/20 6:13 am he was like.. i told him not to go
iBLAMEj00 04/02/20 6:13 am OMG, you're joking me.
sam 04/02/20 6:13 am and he wouldve just taken a cab
sam 04/02/20 6:13 am i know!!
sam 04/02/20 6:13 am apparently he had it planned for 5 month in
advance
sam 04/02/20 6:13 am and his family goes there every year
sam 04/02/20 6:14 am he left us high and dry
iBLAMEj00 04/02/20 6:14 am Yea, but you must have known for at least a
few weeks that the end of the month was the
shut-off time.
iBLAMEj00 04/02/20 6:14 am He was going with his parents?
sam 04/02/20 6:14 am he knew it since december
sam 04/02/20 6:14 am yeah
iBLAMEj00 04/02/20 6:14 am How ghey.
sam 04/02/20 6:14 am i know
sam 04/02/20 6:14 am little kids
sam 04/02/20 6:14 am well iwant to bar his access
iBLAMEj00 04/02/20 6:15 am Heh
sam 04/02/20 6:15 am when he comes back
sam 04/02/20 6:15 am and dont want him working on servers
sam 04/02/20 6:15 am just outsource ad serving for us
iBLAMEj00 04/02/20 6:15 am Have his office locks changed =)
sam 04/02/20 6:15 am or empty his office
sam 04/02/20 6:15 am put someone else there
iBLAMEj00 04/02/20 6:15 am Yea, I've done that to people before.
sam 04/02/20 6:15 am (nate)
sam 04/02/20 6:15 am at least nate tried hard
sam 04/02/20 6:16 am to the best of his abilty
iBLAMEj00 04/02/20 6:16 am Someone "got sick" for like 3 days once to
avoid doing something.
sam 04/02/20 6:16 am what did u do
iBLAMEj00 04/02/20 6:17 am I had them clean out his office and store it,
and changed his security code on his office
pass.
iBLAMEj00 04/02/20 6:17 am He couldn't get into the building, and had to
ask someone to let him in.
iBLAMEj00 04/02/20 6:17 am Then he saw his office and thought he was
fired.
iBLAMEj00 04/02/20 6:17 am He was about in tears when he came to me.
sam 04/02/20 6:18 am problem with matt is he wont care.. he dosnt
care bout anything
iBLAMEj00 04/02/20 6:18 am I told him it was to make a point that if he
ever does that to me again, he really will be
fired.
sam 04/02/20 6:18 am but if we move him out of his office, he'll
sam 04/02/20 6:18 am feel his ego defalted
iBLAMEj00 04/02/20 6:18 am Yea, put him in the room with Kevin.
sam 04/02/20 6:19 am kevin bowen?
iBLAMEj00 04/02/20 6:19 am Yea.
sam 04/02/20 6:19 am then nothing will get done heh
iBLAMEj00 04/02/20 6:19 am Heh
iBLAMEj00 04/02/20 6:19 am Doesn't Kevin share a room with like 3 people?
sam 04/02/20 6:19 am he'smoved
iBLAMEj00 04/02/20 6:19 am Oh.
sam 04/02/20 6:19 am he's next to g3 now almost :)
sam 04/02/20 6:19 am they dont like each other hehe
iBLAMEj00 04/02/20 6:19 am Move Matt next to G3.
sam 04/02/20 6:20 am that would be good!!!
iBLAMEj00 04/02/20 6:20 am NO!!!
iBLAMEj00 04/02/20 6:20 am Move G3 into Matt's office
sam 04/02/20 6:20 am yeah that would be good
sam 04/02/20 6:20 am matt would probably quit
iBLAMEj00 04/02/20 6:20 am Poor baby =)
sam 04/02/20 6:20 am i know
iBLAMEj00 04/02/20 6:21 am I moved someone into the parts room once.
sam 04/02/20 6:21 am nate sits in the switch room.. but thats cuz
he wants to
iBLAMEj00 04/02/20 6:21 am Heh, yea, I think we talked about that once.
I figured he was on punishment because that's
what I used it for.
iBLAMEj00 04/02/20 6:22 am Heh, someone keeps trying to change my eBay
password. =)
iBLAMEj00 04/02/20 6:23 am Megagames isn't up, I think there's a
different problem with that.
sam 04/02/20 6:23 am did you tell s4r to get it up
iBLAMEj00 04/02/20 6:23 am Yea
sam 04/02/20 6:24 am what did they say
iBLAMEj00 04/02/20 6:24 am They said they would reboot them.
sam 04/02/20 6:25 am whats their #
iBLAMEj00 04/02/20 6:25 am (760)804-8004
iBLAMEj00 04/02/20 6:25 am x123
iBLAMEj00 04/02/20 6:25 am They said they are waiting for a list of
servers to start monitoring from Nate and
Matt.
iBLAMEj00 04/02/20 6:26 am Because they don't know which ones are in
production.
sam 04/02/20 6:26 am fuck are they stupid.. its all servers under
efrront
iBLAMEj00 04/02/20 6:26 am In other words, they are not monitoring them
yet.
iBLAMEj00 04/02/20 6:26 am I gotta give my daughter a pear before she
starts screaming.
sam 04/02/20 6:26 am heh
sam 04/02/20 6:30 am ok i just called tim..he said that there is an
issue with the NFS
sam 04/02/20 6:30 am and Scott Kennedy from S4R is working on it
sam 04/02/20 6:31 am maybe we should call this scott kennedy person
and get an update ?
iBLAMEj00 04/02/20 6:33 am What's NFS
iBLAMEj00 04/02/20 6:33 am I keep hearing that NFS has a problem.
iBLAMEj00 04/02/20 6:34 am astalavista.com no longer with us?
sam 04/02/20 6:34 am yeah he is..why
sam 04/02/20 6:35 am i know he's running some other banners or
someting right now
iBLAMEj00 04/02/20 6:35 am Heh, he's not serving ads anymore.
sam 04/02/20 6:35 am good so we dont have to pay him..for right
now.. its his choice
iBLAMEj00 04/02/20 6:36 am Yea, that sounds cool.
iBLAMEj00 04/02/20 6:36 am I'm sure he's making a killing off those ads
he's running also (IOW $0)
sam 04/02/20 6:36 am ya i know
iBLAMEj00 04/02/20 6:37 am You know that even valueclick is not accepting
new people?
sam 04/02/20 6:37 am really?
sam 04/02/20 6:37 am its deader than dead out there huh
iBLAMEj00 04/02/20 6:38 am Well, maybe I'll make something from
ValueClick and save you some money.
sam 04/02/20 6:38 am heh
iBLAMEj00 04/02/20 6:38 am Actually, I can get a good click-rate with
them =)
sam 04/02/20 6:38 am i bet u can :) try it
iBLAMEj00 04/02/20 6:39 am I already am.
sam 04/02/20 6:39 am i dont care as long as we all make some $:)
sam 04/02/20 6:39 am whats the ctr%
iBLAMEj00 04/02/20 6:39 am It was like .85%
iBLAMEj00 04/02/20 6:39 am Of course, it's where I place the ads =)
sam 04/02/20 6:39 am are u using the same techinque that tukoo
uses
iBLAMEj00 04/02/20 6:39 am Cheat?
sam 04/02/20 6:39 am heh
sam 04/02/20 6:40 am i said techniue :)
iBLAMEj00 04/02/20 6:40 am Oh, slow server.
iBLAMEj00 04/02/20 6:40 am No, just place the ad where they click =)
iBLAMEj00 04/02/20 6:40 am http://64.156.174.76/pages/cgi/1.php?_fib_/ddt
d.zip|
sam 04/02/20 6:40 am heh that works
iBLAMEj00 04/02/20 6:40 am I'm easing into them so they don't get a huge
surge in clicks and kill me.
sam 04/02/20 6:41 am yeah..theyre like that
iBLAMEj00 04/02/20 6:41 am Actually, I've had my account with them for
years.
iBLAMEj00 04/02/20 6:41 am They used to call me all the time and beg me
to send them more ad views =)
iBLAMEj00 04/02/20 6:41 am How times have changed.
sam 04/02/20 6:41 am i know huh
sam 04/02/20 6:41 am independant publisheres are dead:)
iBLAMEj00 04/02/20 6:42 am Although, they still pay .19/click and pay
every 15 days!
sam 04/02/20 6:42 am thats not bad
sam 04/02/20 6:42 am im sure they'll be dropping
iBLAMEj00 04/02/20 6:42 am Net 0, twice a month.
iBLAMEj00 04/02/20 6:42 am I think they get pre-paid or something.
iBLAMEj00 04/02/20 6:43 am I had a few affiliates that I made .01/click
with them (all of about $30/month). But I
keep getting paid.
sam 04/02/20 6:43 am thats not bad
iBLAMEj00 04/02/20 6:43 am They are public, part owned by doubleclick,
and have purchased a bunch of other ad serving
companies over the last several months.
sam 04/02/20 6:44 am ya i follwed them
iBLAMEj00 04/02/20 6:45 am Them and DoubleClick are well funded.
iBLAMEj00 04/02/20 6:46 am I think DoubleClick has like $850M in cash.
iBLAMEj00 04/02/20 6:47 am My valueclick rate is 0.52%
sam 04/02/20 6:47 am yeah they are.. but they also dont wanna lose
money
sam 04/02/20 6:47 am so they're going to penny pinch too
iBLAMEj00 04/02/20 6:47 am No, but they will be the ones that can live
through this.
sam 04/02/20 6:48 am yep
iBLAMEj00 04/02/20 6:48 am And they are branching out into mobile ads,
opt-in e-mail, double opt-in, commissions,
etc.
iBLAMEj00 04/02/20 6:49 am The CEO of DoubleClick slipped and said that
they had enough cash to buy out all of their
compitition.
iBLAMEj00 04/02/20 6:49 am They are doing that, but he didn't wan't to
say it publicly.
sam 04/02/20 6:50 am ya..but they let netcreations go and didnt bid
enuogh to buy them
sam 04/02/20 6:50 am (postmaster direct)
sam 04/02/20 6:50 am so who knows whats on their minds
iBLAMEj00 04/02/20 6:50 am They got another company.
sam 04/02/20 6:50 am who
iBLAMEj00 04/02/20 6:50 am Don't remember, but they have a opt-in company
now.
sam 04/02/20 6:51 am @plan was in the works for 6 onths :) they
just reduced the pricing.. which is market
research company
iBLAMEj00 04/02/20 6:51 am I and gamerankings do a good amount of mobile
visitors, we should get some ads for that.
iBLAMEj00 04/02/20 6:51 am The click-thru rate is like 4 times the
industry standard for mobile ads.
sam 04/02/20 6:51 am how many visitors do they get
iBLAMEj00 04/02/20 6:52 am 5-6k/day for me.
sam 04/02/20 6:53 am i guess all advantage shut down huh
iBLAMEj00 04/02/20 6:53 am But if a bunch of sites did it and we had ads
on them.
sam 04/02/20 6:53 am yeah that would work.. whos selling ads for
mobile stuff right now
iBLAMEj00 04/02/20 6:53 am Yea, all those pay to surf and free hosting
companies are to blame for the crappy cpm
rates.
iBLAMEj00 04/02/20 6:54 am I know people are selling them, I just can't
find any :/
iBLAMEj00 04/02/20 6:54 am I admit I didn't look real hard.
iBLAMEj00 04/02/20 6:54 am I know that ValueClick purchased someone that
does it, but I can't find them.
sam 04/02/20 6:55 am zmedia
iBLAMEj00 04/02/20 6:56 am Yea, I was there, but I can't find any sign-up
info.
iBLAMEj00 04/02/20 6:56 am Oh, I know, you have to e-mail or call them.
iBLAMEj00 04/02/20 6:56 am No, that's the commission company.
iBLAMEj00 04/02/20 6:58 am They got zmedia for like $13 million, all
stocks no cash.
sam 04/02/20 6:59 am ya brian was trying to acquire zmedia for us 3
months ago :)
sam 04/02/20 6:59 am we have our own
sam 04/02/20 6:59 am zmedia was doing 900k in revenues and 800k
expenses
iBLAMEj00 04/02/20 6:59 am per month?
sam 04/02/20 6:59 am but we have our own direct marketing program
now.. im going to hire telemarkeers like mad
sam 04/02/20 6:59 am direct marketing is huge
sam 04/02/20 6:59 am yes
iBLAMEj00 04/02/20 7:00 am Yea, they are nothing special, that's why it's
all stock.
sam 04/02/20 7:00 am i think if everything goes right, we can reach
zmedia's revenues in our direct marketing
department ourselves
sam 04/02/20 7:00 am yeah
sam 04/02/20 7:00 am they actually pay to advertiser
sam 04/02/20 7:00 am and signup useres
sam 04/02/20 7:00 am we'll buy sites cheaply
iBLAMEj00 04/02/20 7:00 am Yea, and sell it to ValueClick =)
sam 04/02/20 7:00 am heh.. nah
sam 04/02/20 7:00 am and whore'em
sam 04/02/20 7:00 am with every ad u can think of
sam 04/02/20 7:01 am and make them fit in our new design :)
iBLAMEj00 04/02/20 7:01 am Heh
sam 04/02/20 7:01 am i think sites can be bought for like 10 cent
cpm in this market
sam 04/02/20 7:01 am dont u
iBLAMEj00 04/02/20 7:01 am In other words, do them a favor.
sam 04/02/20 7:01 am $1 cpm per unique daily visitor
sam 04/02/20 7:01 am i wouldnt mind if half our sites like LEAVE
iBLAMEj00 04/02/20 7:01 am Yea, do it by unique visitor.
iBLAMEj00 04/02/20 7:02 am Just don't pay them and they will leave.
sam 04/02/20 7:02 am i know :)
sam 04/02/20 7:02 am hehe
sam 04/02/20 7:02 am thats eveil:)
iBLAMEj00 04/02/20 7:02 am Well, you're doing it not me =)
sam 04/02/20 7:02 am you're suggesting it:)
iBLAMEj00 04/02/20 7:02 am Or, kill their server for like a week and they
will leave. =)
sam 04/02/20 7:02 am nah
iBLAMEj00 04/02/20 7:02 am Ah, you're already doing that too =)
sam 04/02/20 7:02 am hehe
sam 04/02/20 7:03 am but thats unplanned
sam 04/02/20 7:03 am its matt and nate not me :)
iBLAMEj00 04/02/20 7:03 am Heh
iBLAMEj00 04/02/20 7:03 am You, matt, nate, still eFront =)
sam 04/02/20 7:03 am yeah, me , matt, nate, you, still efront :)
iBLAMEj00 04/02/20 7:03 am Heh
sam 04/02/20 7:04 am $1cpm per daily unique user.. what cpm does
that come out to?
sam 04/02/20 7:04 am i mean pageview cpm
sam 04/02/20 7:04 am if they have 5 pageviews per user
iBLAMEj00 04/02/20 7:04 am Well, for those sites that do 30 page views
per user it's shitty =)
sam 04/02/20 7:04 am for example,
sam 04/02/20 7:05 am thats like 20 cent cpm
sam 04/02/20 7:05 am not bad
iBLAMEj00 04/02/20 7:05 am I got 54,726 uniques yesterday.
sam 04/02/20 7:05 am 50*30=1.5 mil * 1 = 1500
sam 04/02/20 7:06 am hehehe
iBLAMEj00 04/02/20 7:06 am Hehehe
iBLAMEj00 04/02/20 7:06 am I'd jump on that =)
sam 04/02/20 7:06 am really? hehe
iBLAMEj00 04/02/20 7:06 am ... not
sam 04/02/20 7:06 am ok wanna help me negotiate allthese sites
sam 04/02/20 7:06 am $1 cpm unique
iBLAMEj00 04/02/20 7:06 am I'm hoping to make about $2k/month off just
ValueClick.
sam 04/02/20 7:06 am do u think we'llg et bites
sam 04/02/20 7:06 am ya i know
sam 04/02/20 7:06 am but tathts you
sam 04/02/20 7:07 am other ppl wouldnt be able to
iBLAMEj00 04/02/20 7:07 am Do you still want to continue the model of
buying sites?
sam 04/02/20 7:07 am and besides u dont count anyways.. cuz you're
working on srunner, servers, everything.. we
should probably do a deal to get you like that
7500 or something maybe:)
sam 04/02/20 7:07 am yeah.. but first of all
iBLAMEj00 04/02/20 7:07 am Maybe moving them to our server, paying them
an amount, and then buying them if we like
them.
sam 04/02/20 7:08 am we have to figure out the strategy with the
current sites
iBLAMEj00 04/02/20 7:08 am Heh, yea.
sam 04/02/20 7:08 am buying sites is pretty good..then we can do
whatever we want with them
iBLAMEj00 04/02/20 7:08 am But, if we move them to our server and change
their domain to xxx.efront.com, they can't
really leave without losing visitors =)
sam 04/02/20 7:09 am hehe
sam 04/02/20 7:09 am what do you estimate for general RON cpm rates
in the market these days?
iBLAMEj00 04/02/20 7:09 am If they don't preform, we kick them out.
iBLAMEj00 04/02/20 7:09 am And keep their subdomain and redirect it to
one of our similar sites.
sam 04/02/20 7:10 am heh that evil =)
sam 04/02/20 7:10 am stas got off lucky
sam 04/02/20 7:10 am w/ the 25k
iBLAMEj00 04/02/20 7:10 am Oh yea.
sam 04/02/20 7:10 am at least we dont have to fk w/ him
iBLAMEj00 04/02/20 7:10 am He would have got $0 =)
sam 04/02/20 7:10 am he'd be harassing us every 5 minutes:)
sam 04/02/20 7:10 am oh yeah.. esp. since he violated our
agreem4nts, etc...
iBLAMEj00 04/02/20 7:10 am He still does me, he wants those damn stocks.
sam 04/02/20 7:11 am yeah i gotta get bill schmid to send it to
him.. i asked him already
sam 04/02/20 7:11 am so we can get everything tranfsrred in our
name
iBLAMEj00 04/02/20 7:11 am Yea.
sam 04/02/20 7:11 am tell him that we have the stock ready but we
need it transfered
sam 04/02/20 7:11 am in our name first
sam 04/02/20 7:11 am we did give him 25k
sam 04/02/20 7:11 am first
sam 04/02/20 7:11 am so he needs to do this
sam 04/02/20 7:11 am or5 someshit
iBLAMEj00 04/02/20 7:11 am I've tried like 20 times.
iBLAMEj00 04/02/20 7:11 am He won't.
sam 04/02/20 7:12 am yeah.. well if he doesnt, we can alwyas tell
him we're canceling his sotkcs
iBLAMEj00 04/02/20 7:12 am Then he'll yank the domains :/
sam 04/02/20 7:12 am i mean after he sends the stocks
sam 04/02/20 7:13 am after we send the stocks and he doesnt tansfer
sam 04/02/20 7:13 am then we can say we're canceling
iBLAMEj00 04/02/20 7:13 am Oh yea.
iBLAMEj00 04/02/20 7:13 am If he gets that piece of paper, he'll transfer
them.
iBLAMEj00 04/02/20 7:13 am I think he wants out also.
sam 04/02/20 7:13 am ya
iBLAMEj00 04/02/20 7:14 am Boss has got dinner ready.
iBLAMEj00 04/02/20 7:15 am We need to think about how to make something
off e-mail a friend and mailing lists.
iBLAMEj00 04/02/20 7:15 am It's going to waste now.
sam 04/02/20 7:16 am we have a way already
sam 04/02/20 7:16 am but we need damn tech / programming support
sam 04/02/20 7:16 am i dont have anyone to implement the shit
sam 04/02/20 7:17 am ok.. talk to u after dinner :)
sam 04/02/20 8:12 am webmasters seem to be taking 2.5 cpm
sam 04/02/20 8:12 am on daily visitors
sam 04/02/20 8:12 am i tested that on a couple already
sam 04/02/20 8:12 am that would help us i think
iBLAMEj00 04/02/20 8:18 am Yea, $2.50/1000 unique would probably be
possible for most.
sam 04/02/20 8:19 am sub-net is accpeting it
sam 04/02/20 8:19 am he has 4 sites on the network.. total more
viitors than aah :)
sam 04/02/20 8:19 am thats reasonable huh
sam 04/02/20 8:19 am of course, some of the sites we'll probably
have to make excpetion
sam 04/02/20 8:19 am so we'll have to get the ones we done want or
we dont care about less than 2.50
sam 04/02/20 8:19 am but trying to get an average of 2.50
sam 04/02/20 8:19 am like babynames would probably want 3-4
sam 04/02/20 8:20 am and we'd like to keep that :)
iBLAMEj00 04/02/20 8:20 am Yea, and I think that's acceptable.
sam 04/02/20 8:20 am also im telling them that we pay hosting too
iBLAMEj00 04/02/20 8:20 am But I want my new contract to be a flat
purchase for X dollars at 8% interest. Then
you can pay as little as you want per month =)
sam 04/02/20 8:21 am yeah.. u make the contradct.. ill just sign
it.. btw, dont pay taxes for last year's stuff
sam 04/02/20 8:21 am (ordinary income tqx)
sam 04/02/20 8:21 am should be capital gains
sam 04/02/20 8:21 am and iull sign whatever u need to do that:)
iBLAMEj00 04/02/20 8:22 am Yea, the other sites will get screwed on taxes
=)
sam 04/02/20 8:22 am well if anyone requests it, ill sign it..
doesnt matter to me
iBLAMEj00 04/02/20 9:16 am load averages: 30.13, 40.60, 21.93
Using about 250MB of swap memory with NO
downloads. Tell that to Nate =)
sam 04/02/20 9:45 am i tried to tell s4r to give u the ram.. you
saw it.. deal w/ him urself :)
sam 04/02/20 9:45 am you're the one who said he was great hehe:)
iBLAMEj00 04/02/20 9:45 am Heh
iBLAMEj00 04/02/20 9:46 am Maybe great compared to Matt =)
sam 04/02/20 9:47 am bhehe
sam 04/02/20 9:47 am yeah :)
sam 04/02/20 9:47 am btw, i sent an email out .. trying to pull you
into the mix
sam 04/02/20 9:47 am check it out :)
iBLAMEj00 04/02/20 9:51 am I sent an e-mail to phil at s4r and told him
to remove the cover off the box and see if it
has any empty DIMM slots. =)
sam 04/02/20 9:52 am heh :)
sam 04/02/20 9:52 am yeah i know.. they are overly dependant on
nate.. what the fuck
iBLAMEj00 04/02/20 9:52 am I think Nate likes it that way.
sam 04/02/20 9:52 am thats the way nate trained them.. i gotta get
nate out of the mix very fast
sam 04/02/20 9:52 am yeah he luves it
sam 04/02/20 9:53 am hey dont fwd my email to phil
sam 04/02/20 9:53 am it makes nate look like a gimp :)
sam 04/02/20 9:53 am we dont wanna do that :)
sam 04/02/20 9:53 am "um you deal with him"
sam 04/02/20 9:53 am hehe
iBLAMEj00 04/02/20 9:54 am If Phil says anything, I'll overnight him a
screwdriver and tell him he no longer needs
Nate to answer that question for him.
iBLAMEj00 04/02/20 9:54 am Heh, sorry, I thought I cut that out =)
sam 04/02/20 9:54 am good thing you didnt cc: nate
sam 04/02/20 9:54 am he'd be pissed:)
iBLAMEj00 04/02/20 9:54 am Heh
iBLAMEj00 04/02/20 9:55 am What nate don't know won't hurt him
sam 04/02/20 9:55 am ya i knw..but they're overly depdant on him..
man.. let g3 handle them
sam 04/02/20 9:55 am g3 doesnt know what a server is even
sam 04/02/20 9:55 am hehe that would be grat
iBLAMEj00 04/02/20 9:55 am Heh
sam 04/02/20 9:55 am nate is fighintg me on that 'g3 is not a
techi.e..he wont kmnow what to do etc'
sam 04/02/20 9:55 am sam: good :) he can get s4r to d it :)
iBLAMEj00 04/02/20 9:56 am Right.
iBLAMEj00 04/02/20 9:56 am s4r shouldn't rely on nate.
sam 04/02/20 9:58 am yep i know.. ill make that clear next week..
having a transitory meeting w/ them.. and ill
tell them nate has been reassigned:)
iBLAMEj00 04/02/20 9:58 am Heh
sam 04/02/20 9:58 am not sure about something though
sam 04/02/20 9:58 am how will we handle problems in the weekends?
sam 04/02/20 9:59 am here's the plan so far:
sam 04/02/20 9:59 am hire 2 partime ppl..
7 to 1 and 1 to 7
to have phone and email support for all
webmaster, etc. helpdesk@efront.com :) for all
issues
sam 04/02/20 9:59 am they will route all payment/contract/other
issues to kevin bowen
sam 04/02/20 9:59 am all server /tech issues to marc F
sam 04/02/20 10:00 am and Marc will decide if it should be fwd to
s4r or he should fix himself
sam 04/02/20 10:00 am that works in the weekdays
sam 04/02/20 10:00 am but how about weekends?
sam 04/02/20 10:00 am any ideas?
sam 04/02/20 10:00 am it'll cost us 1500/month for the 2 parttime
people :) (30 hrs a week so no benefits:)
iBLAMEj00 04/02/20 10:01 am How can you live off $750/month in LA?
sam 04/02/20 10:01 am college studends from uci :)
sam 04/02/20 10:01 am 6/hr * 30 * 4 * 2
sam 04/02/20 10:03 am imcutting 3 more employees this coming week..
shh :)
iBLAMEj00 04/02/20 10:04 am I can hear the webmasters begging one will be
G3 =)
iBLAMEj00 04/02/20 10:05 am Oh, but G3 gets Matt's office.
sam 04/02/20 10:05 am nah.. he's really good :)
iBLAMEj00 04/02/20 10:05 am What has he done for me today?
sam 04/02/20 10:05 am he moved 9 cubicles in the center area today
so that the telemarkters could sit there
sam 04/02/20 10:06 am telemarkters = sales = $$ = paychecks :)
sam 04/02/20 10:06 am heh
iBLAMEj00 04/02/20 10:08 am Heh
sam 04/02/20 10:08 am and also about the communicatins, g3 says he
does communicate w/ everyone
sam 04/02/20 10:09 am but its not the answeres the webmaster want to
hear
sam 04/02/20 10:09 am or something
sam 04/02/20 10:09 am and they equate his answers to no
communicatinos
sam 04/02/20 10:09 am hehe
sam 04/02/20 10:09 am funny
sam 04/02/20 10:09 am cuz i asked him bout thqt
iBLAMEj00 04/02/20 10:09 am Yea, "go fuck yourself" is an answer =)
iBLAMEj00 04/02/20 10:09 am "blow it out your ass"
sam 04/02/20 10:10 am heh i dont think he says that :)
iBLAMEj00 04/02/20 10:10 am Or, "I don't know".
sam 04/02/20 10:10 am id ont know is not a good answer:)
iBLAMEj00 04/02/20 10:10 am Damn good.
iBLAMEj00 04/02/20 10:10 am I like to answer with "interesting".
iBLAMEj00 04/02/20 10:10 am That means either I don't know, or blow it out
your ass.
sam 04/02/20 10:10 am heh i like to answer with heh
sam 04/02/20 10:11 am whcih drags everything out :)
sam 04/02/20 10:12 am u know they'll discuss the reneogitatinos in
the egropus list :) i should tell everyone to
tell ppl that company business is cnofidential
and they need to keep that in mind
iBLAMEj00 04/02/20 10:14 am Well, the main reason I left was because Kevin
from mpog was in there.
iBLAMEj00 04/02/20 10:14 am He's just hired by Roy or something.
sam 04/02/20 10:14 am ya i know
iBLAMEj00 04/02/20 10:15 am Anyway, he could feed inside information to
anyone outside of eFront and not violate
anything.
sam 04/02/20 10:15 am thats true
iBLAMEj00 04/02/20 10:16 am There are probably other people on the list
like that also.
sam 04/02/20 10:16 am ohh .. who runs the list?
sam 04/02/20 10:16 am we'll kick them out :)
iBLAMEj00 04/02/20 10:16 am Don't know, but he wouldn't kick Kevin out, so
I left.
sam 04/02/20 10:16 am hang the leader:)
iBLAMEj00 04/02/20 10:16 am Heh
sam 04/02/20 10:17 am anyway to find out?
iBLAMEj00 04/02/20 10:17 am I bet Jenn from Babynames knows or can find
out.
sam 04/02/20 10:17 am yeah was just wondring.. she was in our
offices last week i think
iBLAMEj00 04/02/20 10:18 am She's cool. We need her and her site.
sam 04/02/20 10:18 am yeah i know.. i authorized sending like 5k to
her
iBLAMEj00 04/02/20 10:18 am How's the career stuff going.
sam 04/02/20 10:19 am last week cuz she was in finan. trouble
sam 04/02/20 10:19 am and she agreed to reduce her payment and all
that
sam 04/02/20 10:19 am (dont know by how much Will is doing that)
iBLAMEj00 04/02/20 10:19 am because they couldn't get accepted at any of
the
rep firms (including valueclick).
sam 04/02/20 10:19 am but i took her word on it since they
sam 04/02/20 10:20 am yeah
sam 04/02/20 10:20 am she tried huh?
iBLAMEj00 04/02/20 10:20 am No, I was quoting your e-mail =)
sam 04/02/20 10:20 am hehe :) that was nonags actually
iBLAMEj00 04/02/20 10:21 am Heh, really?
iBLAMEj00 04/02/20 10:21 am I saw that they removed our ads.
iBLAMEj00 04/02/20 10:21 am They really came back begging?
sam 04/02/20 10:21 am yeah.. he sent me this email its funnyyy
sam 04/02/20 10:21 am check it out
sam 04/02/20 10:26 am oh shit
sam 04/02/20 10:26 am oh shit
sam 04/02/20 10:26 am oh shit
iBLAMEj00 04/02/20 10:29 am What now.
sam 04/02/20 10:29 am i accidnetly sent him the wrong email..he'll
be pissed:)
iBLAMEj00 04/02/20 10:31 am you can have Nonags back.
iBLAMEj00 04/02/20 10:31 am Heh, you sent that to him?
sam 04/02/20 10:31 am yeah.. loops.. now he wont give it back hehe
iBLAMEj00 04/02/20 10:32 am Heh, no loss.
iBLAMEj00 04/02/20 10:34 am "Harsha - Megagames: i did, they told the that
Nate handles them and they can't do anything
about it"
sam 04/02/20 10:34 am what was that from
iBLAMEj00 04/02/20 10:35 am That's from Harsha about his site being down.
sam 04/02/20 10:35 am i mean who is 'they
iBLAMEj00 04/02/20 10:35 am s4r told him that they can't do anything about
it because Nate does it =)
sam 04/02/20 10:35 am nates cell # :
703 623 4569
iBLAMEj00 04/02/20 10:35 am Heh, I have his cell.
iBLAMEj00 04/02/20 10:35 am I like calling at dinner time =)
sam 04/02/20 10:35 am give it to harsha
sam 04/02/20 10:40 am tell harsha to pretend he's nate
iBLAMEj00 04/02/20 10:40 am Heh, like my e-mail to softaware? =)
sam 04/02/20 10:41 am yeah tell him to try it
sam 04/02/20 10:41 am i wonder if it'll work :)
iBLAMEj00 04/02/20 10:41 am Harsha can't pull it off.
sam 04/02/20 10:41 am lol
iBLAMEj00 04/02/20 10:41 am What's this NSF stuff anyway?
sam 04/02/20 10:42 am i think all the data is on a nfs drive
sam 04/02/20 10:42 am and it keeps crashing
sam 04/02/20 10:42 am it was their recommendation
iBLAMEj00 04/02/20 10:42 am Oh, like a raid system?
sam 04/02/20 10:43 am yupper
iBLAMEj00 04/02/20 10:43 am http://advertising.com/expertise/wireless.html
sam 04/02/20 10:43 am can we sign up w/ them
iBLAMEj00 04/02/20 10:55 am http://www.advertising.com/publisher/form.html
iBLAMEj00 04/02/20 11:25 am Cool, I get to negotiate my own contract! =)
iBLAMEj00 04/02/20 11:44 am On that excel spreadsheet, some sites are
showing wrong info (probably the server was
down or something).
sam 04/02/20 11:44 am ya it was in time of move
sam 04/02/20 11:44 am i think
sam 04/02/20 11:44 am like which site
iBLAMEj00 04/02/20 11:44 am Like emux.com shows 899 people =)
iBLAMEj00 04/02/20 11:45 am We should also get rid of every site that
would be paid less than $100
sam 04/02/20 11:45 am oh ya.. that was being moved i think.. hm i
shouldve used something from like 4 weeks ago
iBLAMEj00 04/02/20 11:45 am Is it worth cutting a check and dealing with
sitefights.com for $15/month?
sam 04/02/20 11:46 am again thats wrong info :)
iBLAMEj00 04/02/20 11:46 am Oh, sitefights should be thesitefights.com
sam 04/02/20 11:47 am do u think this plan will work
sam 04/02/20 11:47 am it will relieve so much stress :)
sam 04/02/20 11:47 am 150k/month should be doable for a long while
:)
iBLAMEj00 04/02/20 11:49 am Those add up to less than $100k at $2.5
sam 04/02/20 11:49 am nah, its 150k.. that has like animenetwork and
emux that was down
sam 04/02/20 11:49 am we get about 2 mil uniques a ay
sam 04/02/20 11:49 am a day
sam 04/02/20 11:49 am (average)
iBLAMEj00 04/02/20 11:51 am Okay, I'm talking to Harsha right now. You
want me to bounce it off him?
sam 04/02/20 11:51 am not bounce.. but get it done :)
sam 04/02/20 11:51 am somehow someway :)
iBLAMEj00 04/02/20 11:51 am I kinda warmed him up to it a few weeks ago =)
sam 04/02/20 11:51 am if harsha does it, the rest can follow
sam 04/02/20 11:51 am the rest should be easier.. we can just say
hey harsha did it
sam 04/02/20 11:52 am ohh also harsha has an 18 month out (ipo out)
sam 04/02/20 11:52 am we need to get rid of that.. but one thing at
a time.. you work on the payments..then we'll
get Will to work on the out :)
sam 04/02/20 11:52 am hows megagames donig btw
iBLAMEj00 04/02/20 11:53 am Heh, maybe just not put it in the new contract
and see if he notices =)
sam 04/02/20 11:53 am yeah :)
iBLAMEj00 04/02/20 12:06 pm What about lowering payments but extending
contract lengths?
sam 04/02/20 12:07 pm what is he saying
sam 04/02/20 12:07 pm btw, im calling s4r ..
iBLAMEj00 04/02/20 12:08 pm He's saying no still =)
iBLAMEj00 04/02/20 12:08 pm But, if an extension is possible.
sam 04/02/20 12:08 pm tell himthat if we go chapter 11,
sam 04/02/20 12:09 pm his website will be in bankruptcycourt
sam 04/02/20 12:09 pm and the creditors will have first say
iBLAMEj00 04/02/20 12:09 pm Heh
sam 04/02/20 12:10 pm whats the box # for megagames
iBLAMEj00 04/02/20 12:11 pm Harsha talked to someone at s4r and they are
looking at the server.
iBLAMEj00 04/02/20 12:11 pm I could tell him that his site will be down
till he agrees with the new contract =)
iBLAMEj00 04/02/20 12:12 pm 64.156.174.57
64.156.174.58
iBLAMEj00 04/02/20 12:12 pm He's on two servers.
sam 04/02/20 12:12 pm yeah
sam 04/02/20 12:12 pm they said as of 7:38pm todd is working with
nate on it
sam 04/02/20 12:12 pm nate is probably clueless
sam 04/02/20 12:12 pm yeno what,
sam 04/02/20 12:12 pm ill let helpdesk route ALL techsupport q's to
s4r
iBLAMEj00 04/02/20 12:12 pm The servers are up, just no http services.
sam 04/02/20 12:12 pm who cares about filtering it
sam 04/02/20 12:13 pm really
sam 04/02/20 12:13 pm nate must be stupid
iBLAMEj00 04/02/20 12:13 pm Heh, yea, you just saved $1500/month! =)
sam 04/02/20 12:13 pm why doesnt he just start httpd
sam 04/02/20 12:13 pm no i mean to helpdesk
iBLAMEj00 04/02/20 12:13 pm I don't think it can start for some reason.
sam 04/02/20 12:13 pm cuz helpdesk needs to filter out payment
issues
sam 04/02/20 12:13 pm we dont want s4r thinking we're broke
sam 04/02/20 12:13 pm hehe
sam 04/02/20 12:13 pm incase we have to ditch them :)
iBLAMEj00 04/02/20 12:13 pm Heh
sam 04/02/20 12:13 pm but we'll save 5k/month
sam 04/02/20 12:14 pm not having to hire sys admin
sam 04/02/20 12:14 pm or some shit
sam 04/02/20 12:14 pm i really want to lock out matt and nate
sam 04/02/20 12:14 pm from the servers :)
sam 04/02/20 12:14 pm and give our webmasters s4r's phone # :)
sam 04/02/20 12:14 pm heh i would do that if our webmasters werent
so stupid
sam 04/02/20 12:14 pm they'd call and ask them for payments
sam 04/02/20 12:14 pm what did harsha say to the chapter 11
sam 04/02/20 12:15 pm lowtax would call s4r and bitch about
communications :)
iBLAMEj00 04/02/20 12:15 pm He said something about his attorney adding
some kind of chapter 11 protection into the
contract.
sam 04/02/20 12:16 pm tell him that it doesnt mean anything
really...the bankruptcy judge decides that
sam 04/02/20 12:16 pm and anyways, ask him what his alternatives are
iBLAMEj00 04/02/20 12:16 pm make it techsupport@efront.com
sam 04/02/20 12:16 pm he tried exitfuel
sam 04/02/20 12:16 pm and they undercounted him by 90%
sam 04/02/20 12:16 pm there are 100 million gaming sites out th4ere
looking for hosts
sam 04/02/20 12:16 pm ask him what else would he do
sam 04/02/20 12:16 pm there's really no alternatives
sam 04/02/20 12:17 pm we're just trying to adjust it to the market
reality
iBLAMEj00 04/02/20 12:17 pm He's already talked to eUniverse =)
iBLAMEj00 04/02/20 12:17 pm But I told him what a scam they were already
=)
sam 04/02/20 12:17 pm well, we're not going to pay him for along
time then :)
sam 04/02/20 12:17 pm tell him that we got his visa
sam 04/02/20 12:17 pm and we could get it revoked :)
sam 04/02/20 12:17 pm hehe
iBLAMEj00 04/02/20 12:17 pm Heh
iBLAMEj00 04/02/20 12:19 pm He wants $5/1000 uniques =)
sam 04/02/20 12:19 pm hey we're making progress:)
sam 04/02/20 12:19 pm 6*5 = 30k
sam 04/02/20 12:19 pm screw that
sam 04/02/20 12:19 pm he already has a flat 30k :)
sam 04/02/20 12:20 pm tell him that right now his cash is capped at
30k
sam 04/02/20 12:20 pm if he agrees on the new terms,
sam 04/02/20 12:20 pm we will remove the cap
sam 04/02/20 12:20 pm on the upside
sam 04/02/20 12:20 pm tell him he could earn 30k again.. and even
50k and even more
sam 04/02/20 12:20 pm and that because its based on uniques, we
would be able to monetize it
sam 04/02/20 12:20 pm and actually it would be a win/win
sam 04/02/20 12:20 pm that makes sense:)
iBLAMEj00 04/02/20 12:21 pm Heh, to you.
sam 04/02/20 12:21 pm well no cap on the upside now:)
sam 04/02/20 12:21 pm http://www.dreamcast.net/
sam 04/02/20 12:22 pm take him to euniverse's gaming sites
sam 04/02/20 12:22 pm bottom banner = defaults
sam 04/02/20 12:22 pm top banner = defaults + flycast
sam 04/02/20 12:22 pm everyone knows flycast pays 10-20cent cpm
iBLAMEj00 04/02/20 12:22 pm Before we started talking about the contract,
I told him all about eUniverse.
iBLAMEj00 04/02/20 12:23 pm I told him that I had a copy of their contract
on my in box.
iBLAMEj00 04/02/20 12:25 pm And that they have no minimums and no
guarantees and the terms are net60.
iBLAMEj00 04/02/20 12:26 pm Basically, it's 50% of what they can get from
flycast.
sam 04/02/20 12:26 pm yeah
sam 04/02/20 12:26 pm whats he saying now
sam 04/02/20 12:26 pm if u noticed, i put gamefusion under you
sam 04/02/20 12:27 pm heh
sam 04/02/20 12:27 pm u should get a kick outta taht :p
iBLAMEj00 04/02/20 12:28 pm Heh, I'll just tell him what he'll get ($1)
and if he says anything buy yes sir, I'll
delete his server access.
sam 04/02/20 12:28 pm ok :)
sam 04/02/20 12:28 pm oh u mean travis
sam 04/02/20 12:28 pm i thought u meant harsha heh
iBLAMEj00 04/02/20 12:29 pm Heh
sam 04/02/20 12:30 pm what if u tell him that whoever agrees first
to the new agreements gets put at the top of
the payment lists :)
iBLAMEj00 04/02/20 12:32 pm Heh, I did, but he needs to leave and talk to
his parents of something.
sam 04/02/20 12:33 pm well at least made some progres:)
iBLAMEj00 04/02/20 12:33 pm He wants $5 =)
iBLAMEj00 04/02/20 12:33 pm I told him $5=chapter 11=creditors own
megagames
sam 04/02/20 12:34 pm hehe
sam 04/02/20 12:34 pm little does he know we dont have
debt..creditors = webmasters :)
iBLAMEj00 04/02/20 12:34 pm Heh
iBLAMEj00 04/02/20 12:34 pm He asked what creditors we had, I didn't reply
=)
sam 04/02/20 12:35 pm you should say 'me ' heh
iBLAMEj00 04/02/20 12:35 pm Heh
iBLAMEj00 04/02/20 12:35 pm Yea, I would sue over ownership of megagames.
sam 04/02/20 12:35 pm 30k*36months = 1 mil
sam 04/02/20 12:35 pm thats like hitting the jackpot
sam 04/02/20 12:35 pm i dunno whathe's complaining about
sam 04/02/20 12:36 pm so lets say he got 1 yer worth of 30k
sam 04/02/20 12:36 pm so if the remaining years are 15k
iBLAMEj00 04/02/20 12:36 pm gamefusion is an easy one, the're gone because
they are below the $100/month rule.
sam 04/02/20 12:36 pm thats still good :)
sam 04/02/20 12:36 pm heh
sam 04/02/20 12:36 pm or we can have that caluse
sam 04/02/20 12:36 pm 'all checks are held until $100 is acumulated'
sam 04/02/20 12:36 pm which would take 1 year for him :)
iBLAMEj00 04/02/20 12:36 pm Nah, it ain't worth the sites.
iBLAMEj00 04/02/20 12:37 pm The trouble, etc.
sam 04/02/20 12:37 pm yeah and we can reduce our servers too
iBLAMEj00 04/02/20 12:37 pm Yea.
sam 04/02/20 12:37 pm but we cant kick them out
sam 04/02/20 12:37 pm cuz that'd be breach :)
iBLAMEj00 04/02/20 12:37 pm Well, make it so they want to leave =)
sam 04/02/20 12:37 pm yeah :)
sam 04/02/20 12:37 pm i know heh
iBLAMEj00 04/02/20 12:37 pm Don't pay, offer $1
sam 04/02/20 12:38 pm yep
iBLAMEj00 04/02/20 12:38 pm they will want out, send them an exit
contract.
sam 04/02/20 12:38 pm yeah i gotta prepare all those contracts
iBLAMEj00 04/02/20 12:38 pm Wait for them to beg to come back, set them to
ignore.
sam 04/02/20 12:38 pm heh
sam 04/02/20 12:38 pm call them an asshole and send them the email
sam 04/02/20 12:38 pm oops i already did that :)
iBLAMEj00 04/02/20 12:38 pm Heh
iBLAMEj00 04/02/20 12:39 pm That's seriously funny.
sam 04/02/20 12:39 pm i was going to try to get it back too.. at
$1cpm
sam 04/02/20 12:39 pm darn
sam 04/02/20 12:39 pm actuaally i want to sue nonags
sam 04/02/20 12:39 pm when we have time and money and etcx
sam 04/02/20 12:39 pm he took our banners off and stuf
iBLAMEj00 04/02/20 12:39 pm What they do?
iBLAMEj00 04/02/20 12:39 pm Yea.
sam 04/02/20 12:39 pm and violated our contract. BEFORE the payments
were due
sam 04/02/20 12:40 pm he wanted his payment like net 15
sam 04/02/20 12:40 pm i was like um no
sam 04/02/20 12:40 pm (mid december)
sam 04/02/20 12:40 pm he gave me 5 pm dec. 15 to send him his $
sam 04/02/20 12:40 pm heh
sam 04/02/20 12:40 pm i said see you in court:)
sam 04/02/20 12:40 pm thats what makes this the funniest
sam 04/02/20 12:40 pm and now he begs to come back in :)
iBLAMEj00 04/02/20 12:40 pm Heh
iBLAMEj00 04/02/20 12:40 pm And then you call him an asshole =)
iBLAMEj00 04/02/20 12:41 pm And I let Nate know that you want me to deal
with him =)
sam 04/02/20 12:41 pm esp. the way .. fwd his email to someone else
and say assholest of webmasters:)
sam 04/02/20 12:41 pm heh
sam 04/02/20 12:41 pm what did nate say
iBLAMEj00 04/02/20 12:41 pm Heh, he didn't
iBLAMEj00 04/02/20 12:41 pm Actually, that may be a good way to find nate
=)
sam 04/02/20 12:41 pm tell nate you hear that webmasters are now
authorized to call s4r directly
iBLAMEj00 04/02/20 12:41 pm I didn't send it to Nate, sent it to s4r.
iBLAMEj00 04/02/20 12:42 pm Heh
sam 04/02/20 12:42 pm and sam is adding all the webmasters to the
authorization list
iBLAMEj00 04/02/20 12:42 pm I've been telling webmasters to call s4r
actually =)
sam 04/02/20 12:42 pm and ask him when will that be done so u can
ask s4r to fix stuff
sam 04/02/20 12:42 pm hey i dont mind..better than having nate be
the bottleneck
sam 04/02/20 12:42 pm let s4r wearn their bread
sam 04/02/20 12:42 pm earn
iBLAMEj00 04/02/20 12:42 pm heh
iBLAMEj00 04/02/20 12:43 pm wear their beard?
sam 04/02/20 12:43 pm hey thats goo
sam 04/02/20 12:43 pm u have to work on scott gamerankings:)
sam 04/02/20 12:43 pm that should be fun :)
iBLAMEj00 04/02/20 12:43 pm Heh, he's a good guy.
sam 04/02/20 12:43 pm bytecenter.com has been down for like a week
sam 04/02/20 12:43 pm james reno isnt happy.. its msg boards
sam 04/02/20 12:44 pm so that traffic will go down to like 0
sam 04/02/20 12:44 pm yeah he is
iBLAMEj00 04/02/20 12:44 pm I'd pay extra for gamerankings and babynames.
sam 04/02/20 12:44 pm yeah
iBLAMEj00 04/02/20 12:44 pm And megagames, and several others.
sam 04/02/20 12:44 pm th4e ones under my name, im going to get them
real low
sam 04/02/20 12:44 pm like chiense websites im gong to try to get
them at 50 cent cpm daily unqiue
sam 04/02/20 12:44 pm thats like free :)
sam 04/02/20 12:45 pm or they can leave:)
iBLAMEj00 04/02/20 12:45 pm I agree, most are crap sites.
sam 04/02/20 12:45 pm the clickthrus are decent.. so they help the
network avg
sam 04/02/20 12:45 pm nobig loss if they go
iBLAMEj00 04/02/20 12:46 pm That's messed up.
iBLAMEj00 04/02/20 12:46 pm Why would japs click on banners more?
iBLAMEj00 04/02/20 12:46 pm Maybe cause they are in english?
iBLAMEj00 04/02/20 12:47 pm Who's bryant?
iBLAMEj00 04/02/20 12:47 pm Oh, will
sam 04/02/20 12:47 pm well check this out
sam 04/02/20 12:47 pm our clickthrus are higher at night
sam 04/02/20 12:47 pm our signups on the direct marketing popups are
higher at night
sam 04/02/20 12:48 pm because at night most of the traffic is from
europe
sam 04/02/20 12:48 pm so people out side the usa
sam 04/02/20 12:48 pm have better ad. performance
sam 04/02/20 12:48 pm and during the day its awful
sam 04/02/20 12:48 pm and brings the average down by like 60%
iBLAMEj00 04/02/20 12:48 pm Maybe it's because in the US things like all
advantage and free hosting banners are
displayed?
sam 04/02/20 12:49 pm all advantage closed shop :)
iBLAMEj00 04/02/20 12:49 pm Yea, that should help =)
iBLAMEj00 04/02/20 12:49 pm And free hosting places are closing fast also.
sam 04/02/20 12:50 pm i dunno..there are 1000 new websites everyday
iBLAMEj00 04/02/20 12:50 pm Free hosting lasted like 6 months.
sam 04/02/20 12:50 pm yeah i know
sam 04/02/20 12:50 pm we should turn stas.net into pay service
sam 04/02/20 12:50 pm what do u think
iBLAMEj00 04/02/20 12:50 pm Er, I meant free ISP.
sam 04/02/20 12:50 pm oh heh
sam 04/02/20 12:52 pm man still trying to decide which 3 employees
to let go
sam 04/02/20 12:52 pm gotta keep the ones who're bringing in $$
sam 04/02/20 12:52 pm its easy to do that... u just put tons of
pressure.. micromanage
iBLAMEj00 04/02/20 12:52 pm Maybe you should ask on the list?
sam 04/02/20 12:52 pm and they quit:)
sam 04/02/20 12:53 pm heh
sam 04/02/20 12:53 pm they'll say you
sam 04/02/20 12:53 pm :)
iBLAMEj00 04/02/20 12:53 pm Heh
sam 04/02/20 12:53 pm they all think you're an employee heh
sam 04/02/20 12:53 pm and g3 next then me heh
iBLAMEj00 04/02/20 12:53 pm Heh
iBLAMEj00 04/02/20 12:53 pm I told them up-front I don't have a salary.
iBLAMEj00 04/02/20 1:05 pm I'm seriously considering a paypal entrance to
my downloads
iBLAMEj00 04/02/20 1:05 pm $5/month for unlimited access.
sam 04/02/20 1:05 pm u should try it..see how it works
sam 04/02/20 1:05 pm nate thinks it wont work
iBLAMEj00 04/02/20 1:05 pm Maybe then Nate will give me a server =)
sam 04/02/20 1:05 pm heh ya
iBLAMEj00 04/02/20 10:59 pm load averages: 236.22, 182.31, 105.71
Swap: 512M Total, 435M Used
No ROM downloads.
sam 04/02/20 11:04 pm tell nate
iBLAMEj00 04/02/20 11:04 pm I did =)
iBLAMEj00 04/02/20 11:05 pm I just carboned you.
sam 04/02/20 11:05 pm have u gotr a hold of nate.. or is he still
hiding
iBLAMEj00 04/02/20 11:05 pm hiding =)
sam 04/02/20 11:05 pm i think u scared him by saying you're going to
hack into the vpn and all that
sam 04/02/20 11:05 pm i asked him to give u access etc
sam 04/02/20 11:05 pm he was like you're flakey.. that you said u
were going to hack in etc.
sam 04/02/20 11:06 pm i was like u were just frustrated snce the
site was down
iBLAMEj00 04/02/20 11:06 pm Heh, I didn't say I was going to hack into the
VPN, I said I could get around it =)
sam 04/02/20 11:06 pm heh
iBLAMEj00 04/02/20 11:06 pm He assumed that meant hack.
iBLAMEj00 04/02/20 11:06 pm I meant that I would host my site elsewhere if
he didn't get it up =)
sam 04/02/20 11:06 pm ya i know.. i dunno why he's so paranoid :)
iBLAMEj00 04/02/20 11:06 pm That is getting around VPN =)
iBLAMEj00 04/02/20 11:08 pm Although there is probably a global VPN
password of like OogaBooga or Betanews =)
sam 04/02/20 11:10 pm hehe
sam 04/02/20 11:10 pm or efront :)
iBLAMEj00 04/02/20 11:10 pm heh
sam 04/02/20 11:12 pm man CALPERS has 170 billion under
management..geez
iBLAMEj00 04/02/20 11:14 pm What, investors?
sam 04/02/20 11:15 pm california pension fund
sam 04/02/20 11:15 pm (just reading an article)
iBLAMEj00 04/02/20 11:15 pm Oh, like a state pension fund?
iBLAMEj00 04/02/20 11:15 pm For local and state employees?
sam 04/02/20 11:16 pm ya
iBLAMEj00 04/02/20 11:16 pm CA is the socalist state, so it figures =)
sam 04/02/20 11:16 pm heh ya
iBLAMEj00 04/02/20 11:17 pm Actually, just about every state has a huge
system like that.
iBLAMEj00 04/02/20 11:17 pm It's such a bunch of shit because the feds
create social security, but then give their
own employees a different system.
iBLAMEj00 04/02/20 11:18 pm All those local, state, and federal people
don't pay in to social security, they pay into
a pension system like this.
iBLAMEj00 04/02/20 11:18 pm And they invest into the market.
iBLAMEj00 04/02/20 11:18 pm You should see the size of the building in
Columbus Ohio that controls the state/local
pensions for the state.
iBLAMEj00 04/02/20 11:19 pm It's like one of the large federal buildings
in DC.
sam 04/02/20 11:19 pm ya i know.. actually the us is one of the most
socialist countries there is
i thnk we're more socialist in terms of $$
than russia even
iBLAMEj00 04/02/20 11:19 pm It's a HUGE stone building, probably like
3,000 people working there.
iBLAMEj00 04/02/20 11:24 pm And you live at ground zero =)
sam 04/02/20 11:35 pm imemailing support@s4r.comdirectly now :)
sam 04/02/20 11:35 pm One of our web-sites, 64.156.174.179
(www.thesitefights.com), is down.
Please get it back up ASAP.
Thanks
-----Original Message-----
From: Nick [mailto:nickzel@snip.net]
Sent: Sunday, February 04, 2001 7:23 AM
To: Sam Jain
Subject: RE: FW: Sitefights Server
I want to thank you for your help yesturday.
As for progress
Got in around 9:30 EST last night.
Seems we lost the entire system drive so we
have alot to recover.
Was in the progress of moving OUR home
directories over
from our backup drive to /usr/home when the
system appears to have gone down.
That was 11:55 pm EST last night.
Still down today at 10:21 am. :(
Oh I hate this but this brings back memories
of when we first went to an
EFront server. Spent close to 2 months trying
to get one than stayed up. :(
It was drive problems back then too.
sam 04/02/20 11:36 pm you think they need any otherinformation?
iBLAMEj00 04/02/20 11:51 pm I don't follow you.
iBLAMEj00 04/02/20 11:52 pm You asked s4r to fix the problem.
iBLAMEj00 04/02/20 11:52 pm And sitefights replys that he lost a drive?
sam 04/02/20 11:53 pm i mean will they be able to identify the
sitefights box from the ip
sam 04/02/20 11:53 pm or they need more info like internal ip, etc?
iBLAMEj00 04/02/20 11:54 pm The IP should be enough.
iBLAMEj00 04/02/20 11:55 pm Official Name: sitefights.com
IP Address: 63.218.226.164
iBLAMEj00 04/02/20 11:56 pm http://list.efront.com/ml/form10.html
sam 04/02/20 11:57 pm did u sign up
sam 04/02/20 11:57 pm :)
iBLAMEj00 04/02/20 11:57 pm http://list.efront.com/ml/form11.html
iBLAMEj00 04/02/20 11:57 pm Now they at least have privacy policys.
sam 04/02/20 11:58 pm we're going to make alot of money using
that...
im readin DM News all morning ..
i think we'll call our direct marketing
division"efront direct"
yeah.. cuz i yelled at them last week to put
up privacy policy
sam 04/02/20 11:58 pm im trying to get them to get 500k/month in
march
sam 04/02/20 11:58 pm and too much todo .. but they'll get ia ll
right
sam 04/02/20 11:58 pm you probably have good ideas on how to trick
ppl to signup :)
iBLAMEj00 04/02/20 11:58 pm We need to steal someone from one of those
companies that are good at this =)
sam 04/02/20 11:59 pm ya i know!!
sam 04/02/20 11:59 pm i was telling Dan (whos leading this for us )
to raid other companie
sam 04/02/20 11:59 pm huge money in this..check this out
iBLAMEj00 04/02/20 11:59 pm You know, just visiting their office may be
worthwhile
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 12:00 am We had a competitor once that would have sales
meetings in an office with a window.
sam 05/02/20 12:00 am if we get 100k signups a day, we can make
$2-$3 per signup.. thats 200-300k/day :)
sam 05/02/20 12:00 am thats like 4-5 months
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 12:00 am He had a whiteboard that listed all his
prospects on it.
sam 05/02/20 12:00 am yesterday i think we got 5000 signups and
we're averaging $1.30 pre signup
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 12:00 am And he left his blinds open.
sam 05/02/20 12:00 am hehe
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 12:00 am We would drive by every week and write down
all his prospects.
sam 05/02/20 12:00 am good idea :)
sam 05/02/20 12:01 am hey i wanted to ask u something
sam 05/02/20 12:01 am right now, we're getting signups through the
popups mostly
sam 05/02/20 12:02 am here's other ways:
1. send-a-friend, tell-a-friend
2. websites that already have signups (add the
check boxes to them)
3. efront wide registration system that
restricts certain popular content (member
only, but free)
4. use banners to drive traffic
5. efront-wide centralized forums w/
membership that can be customzied to each site
and we can add checkboxes everytime someone
logs in
sam 05/02/20 12:03 am which of them makes sense, which are the
easeiest to implement, fastest to implement,
and would givre us the most daily signups or
logins?
sam 05/02/20 12:03 am i think we can increase our signups to 10k/day
using combo of banners+popup
sam 05/02/20 12:03 am i'd like to increase it to 25k within a month
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 12:04 am I think all are good ideas.
sam 05/02/20 12:05 am its really a 3 stepped process:
1. the telesales guys prospect for customers,
and sales guys close them (their goal is to
get at least $2 per signup)
2. traffic implements and optimizes and gets
at least 25k signups a day
thats 50k/day :)
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 12:05 am #1 is probably easy, but would give few
sign-ups.
sam 05/02/20 12:06 am ok ill have g3 deploy send-a-friend links
everywhere
what else
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 12:06 am #4 is easy, I think we already tried it with
the PS2 give away and my ad.
sam 05/02/20 12:06 am yeah and we're still running #4 already
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 12:06 am #1 is already mostly done also.
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 12:07 am The code is out there, just doesn't totally
work yet and no sponsors on the form.
sam 05/02/20 12:07 am really? dont we have to add the send-a-friend
links to every site
sam 05/02/20 12:07 am oh thats the stuff dan was trying to get u to
do huh
sam 05/02/20 12:07 am i have to follow up w/ them see whatsup
sam 05/02/20 12:07 am then get g3 to deploy
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 12:07 am Webmasters would be willing to add that,
because it adds content to their site and
increases visitors.
sam 05/02/20 12:07 am #5 would be killer
sam 05/02/20 12:07 am and doesnt disrupt the current users
sam 05/02/20 12:08 am i bet it can add 10-20k signups a day dont u
think
sam 05/02/20 12:08 am everytime they want to bitch about something
in th forums, they would have to optout of all
the prechcked boxes hehe
sam 05/02/20 12:08 am good
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 12:08 am I have a tell a friend form on every page of
my site and it gets crappy clicks, although,
that could be because of the mailbits system.
sam 05/02/20 12:09 am something like www.quibba.com would work well
sam 05/02/20 12:09 am you know euniverse uses the tell a friend to
send ppl funny jokes
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 12:09 am Yea
sam 05/02/20 12:09 am and does the same thing..thats where they get
99% of their business from
sam 05/02/20 12:10 am if we had a funny funpage.. we could pop it
(we have freq. cap of one for everyting now
per day :) on our site.. or put it in the
navbar or something idunno
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 12:10 am That's why I think we should move forward with
our centralized mailing list system also.
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 12:10 am Use content from something awful for the funny
stuff.
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 12:11 am Or send a penny arcade comic =) (j/k)
sam 05/02/20 12:12 am u mean the stuff that dan was doing before?
opt-in check boxes
sam 05/02/20 12:12 am and putting newsletters on every site?
sam 05/02/20 12:12 am yeah im writing this down i have to get g3 to
deploy that too
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 12:12 am Right now, I use listbot, and they are making
money off my mailing list.
sam 05/02/20 12:12 am didnt dan give you the stuff for adding the
newsletter thingy on ur site
sam 05/02/20 12:12 am does our system work yte
sam 05/02/20 12:13 am man we need more programmres bad
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 12:13 am No, Dan did give me the code.
sam 05/02/20 12:13 am he did or he didnt?
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 12:13 am I implimented it, and when I went to send a
mailer, I found out that we needed to PAY to
use that service and we didn't pay that bill,
so my mailer didn't go out.
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 12:13 am So I had to switch back to listbot.
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 12:14 am I don't get why we would have to pay to do an
opt-in mailing list.
sam 05/02/20 12:14 am oh hehe
sam 05/02/20 12:14 am you mean lyris?
sam 05/02/20 12:14 am thats dumb.. dan mismaged that man
sam 05/02/20 12:14 am we should have our own mailler
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 12:14 am No shit.
sam 05/02/20 12:14 am i gotta get bob to write that
sam 05/02/20 12:15 am it should be easy
sam 05/02/20 12:15 am i need to hire a programmer next week
sam 05/02/20 12:15 am bob is working on the backend
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 12:15 am Should be, adrox from emusphere.com has one
that he wrote I think.
sam 05/02/20 12:15 am for the co-registrations (like att, etc)
sam 05/02/20 12:15 am is it pretty godo.. can it handle load etc
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 12:15 am And get nate off the server stuff and have
nate do some programming.
sam 05/02/20 12:15 am nate cant program!!
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 12:16 am And make s4r work for their money.
sam 05/02/20 12:16 am yeah ill definitely do that
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 12:16 am Really, I though nate was a programmer?
sam 05/02/20 12:16 am feel free to email support@s4r.com about tech
issues:) we should have a form
sam 05/02/20 12:16 am that people go to,, and it automatically
emails them
sam 05/02/20 12:16 am no way
sam 05/02/20 12:16 am nate gets eric to do the programming
sam 05/02/20 12:16 am (kid in college, 400/month we pay)
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 12:16 am Heh
sam 05/02/20 12:17 am nate just 'organizes'
sam 05/02/20 12:17 am heh
sam 05/02/20 12:17 am we're putting matt on outsourcing ad serving
sam 05/02/20 12:17 am to other companie
sam 05/02/20 12:17 am i have a hot lead i lined up..mplayer/gamespy
wants us to do their ad serving.. 450 million
impressions.. i gave it to dennis to close
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 12:18 am Oh yea, like storerunner?
sam 05/02/20 12:18 am yep
sam 05/02/20 12:18 am i thnk we can get tons of clients
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 12:18 am Cool deal.
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 12:18 am Yea, and Matt would be perfect for that.
sam 05/02/20 12:18 am i knew in europe, andy (our europen director)
has lot of leads
sam 05/02/20 12:18 am yeah..he'll be focusing 10000% on that
sam 05/02/20 12:18 am i have somone i hried last week to do sales on
it (forucs 100%)
sam 05/02/20 12:19 am they're part of our technology services
division
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 12:19 am That and his yearly treks to Jamaca.
sam 05/02/20 12:19 am we'll do manged hosting too
sam 05/02/20 12:19 am throw it in our boxes @ s4r
sam 05/02/20 12:19 am w/ s4r i mean
sam 05/02/20 12:19 am :)
sam 05/02/20 12:19 am we wouldnt have to pay much extra.. just for a
server , we would probably buidl ourselves:)
sam 05/02/20 12:20 am what do u think about managed hosting
sam 05/02/20 12:20 am does that make sense
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 12:20 am Yea, they should have server consoles so sites
can do some of their own maintenance.
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 12:20 am Like add e-mail, sub-domains, etc.
sam 05/02/20 12:21 am we cant even do our own hosting, how are we
gonna do it for someone lese:)
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 12:21 am I know, that's why I don't think we should do
it unless a lot of stuff can be done by the
user.
sam 05/02/20 12:22 am well this wouldnt be those 8.95/month type of
stuff
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 12:22 am I know.
sam 05/02/20 12:22 am but more like.. ok what do u need..2 boxes, 2
mb, ok.. thqats 4k/month
sam 05/02/20 12:22 am we put it up there we monitor it.. uhave root
passwd u do whatever u like
sam 05/02/20 12:23 am like if u were to get dedicated box or co-lo
somewhere, it'd probably run @ least 500/month
i think
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 12:25 am I think it could be done, but what's the
profit? What's the work involved? Where's
the prospects?
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 12:25 am Maybe we could offer it to people that asked
to join eFront.
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 12:26 am And this is how we could "evaluate" them
before we considered purchasing them.
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 12:26 am And we could offer them to add pop-ups to
their site.
sam 05/02/20 12:26 am that is a good idea
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 12:26 am Or other programs.
sam 05/02/20 12:27 am so we dont have to pay them anything.. free
hosting..and we monetize
sam 05/02/20 12:27 am they keep banners
sam 05/02/20 12:27 am we take pops + links
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 12:27 am Yea, they keep what is worthless.
sam 05/02/20 12:27 am we should offer that to sites who want to
leave
sam 05/02/20 12:27 am and dont want to cooperate
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 12:27 am Yea.
sam 05/02/20 12:27 am i offered that alrady to avfind.coim
sam 05/02/20 12:27 am actually
sam 05/02/20 12:27 am he accepted:)
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 12:28 am I think some may.
sam 05/02/20 12:28 am avfind says he made $10 last 3 days using goto
sam 05/02/20 12:28 am :)
sam 05/02/20 12:28 am he says premium networks is considering him
sam 05/02/20 12:28 am heh they're a cpc netwrok that sux
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 12:28 am You pay for your server, and we could offset
those charges if you want to join one of our
programs (like pop-ups).
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 12:29 am WOW, $10 in 3 days!
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 12:29 am When is he going to retire?
sam 05/02/20 12:29 am yeah
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 12:29 am Looks like megagames is back up at least.
sam 05/02/20 12:30 am i cant wait till we have all the contracts
renegotiated.. there's tons of stuff we could
do when we get new sites
sam 05/02/20 12:30 am and make $
sam 05/02/20 12:30 am maybe we charge them for hosting
sam 05/02/20 12:30 am cuz they're paying for it now anyways
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 12:31 am Well, that's how we could at least do it now.
sam 05/02/20 12:32 am how do u mean.. like the current websites?
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 12:32 am Just offer hosting for a fee and then money
making opportunities if they wish to use our
programs (like pop-ups).
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 12:32 am With new sites, or sites that want to leave.
sam 05/02/20 12:32 am yeah..
sam 05/02/20 12:33 am whats the fee..like $500/mmonth or something?
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 12:33 am Depends on the site I'm sure.
sam 05/02/20 12:33 am i prefer to give hosting for free and whore
their sites and make 5000 :)
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 12:33 am But, those that don't want to cooperate...
sam 05/02/20 12:34 am ya
sam 05/02/20 12:34 am we could do that too.. but its really the same
thing
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 12:34 am Like we didn't whore PA very well.
sam 05/02/20 12:34 am i know because stupid jonathan roy
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 12:34 am Heh
sam 05/02/20 12:34 am he wears their stupid tee-shirt everyday
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 12:35 am Well, that way we would be guaranteed to make
money off the site.
sam 05/02/20 12:35 am yeah i know.. thats what we should do
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 12:35 am http://penny-arcade.com/
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 12:36 am Give them like the first month free and then
they pre-pay every month after that.
sam 05/02/20 12:36 am ya that could work
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 12:36 am And if they did the pop-ups or other programs,
we could pay them 50% or whatever.
sam 05/02/20 12:36 am we cant track which sites people signup and
stuff
sam 05/02/20 12:36 am i'd rather give them tokens
sam 05/02/20 12:36 am or something:)
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 12:37 am And if s4r managed their servers, we would
never need to talk to them.
sam 05/02/20 12:37 am yeah
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 12:37 am Well, it would just offset their server costs.
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 12:37 am So if they paid $500/month for the server, and
did pop-ups, maybe they would get their server
for free.
sam 05/02/20 12:38 am im not sure if we should get into revenue
sharing..too messy and we dnt have the
infrastructure/accounting to support it.
sam 05/02/20 12:38 am actually i dont even want to say $500/month
sam 05/02/20 12:38 am cuz if we did, they'll be smart enough to
realize
sam 05/02/20 12:38 am that what they're giving us is worth more than
500/month
sam 05/02/20 12:38 am :)
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 12:39 am This is only for sites that want to leave and
don't cooperate.
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 12:39 am We can either totally lose them, or make
something off them.
sam 05/02/20 12:39 am i'd rather say:
* we provide free hosting
* you keep banners
* you implement our popup code + text links
(or something to whore them more)
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 12:39 am And we can continue to give them the
xxx.efront.com redirection =)
sam 05/02/20 12:39 am or
* you implement our non-banner creatives
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 12:40 am But, if you do that, they will impliment the
pop-ups and text stuff poorly.
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 12:40 am Or drag their feet.
sam 05/02/20 12:40 am sam: (8:35 AM) we should have offered p-a our
servers @ 500/month or something
roy7: (8:38 AM) They wouldh't have accepted,
no $ for that. They have free hosting anyways.
roy7: (8:39 AM) Ok, doing this new report the
way I had thought I could turned out to be
almost impossible, BUT, I found a workaround
that is almost just as good.I'll clean it up
some more, then you can bask in my genius. :)
[unless we forced them .. for taking their
site back :]
sam 05/02/20 12:40 am thats true
sam 05/02/20 12:41 am there has to be a way of having our cake and
eating it too :)
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 12:41 am Heh
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 12:44 am My server's core dumped 9 minutes ago :/
sam 05/02/20 12:44 am did u email s4r
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 12:45 am It's RAM, they ain't going to add it if I ask.
sam 05/02/20 12:45 am pretend you're nate:)
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 12:46 am Heh, I already e-mailed them about the RAM, no
reply.
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 12:46 am That was the one where I told them to open the
case to see if there was any open DIMM slots.
sam 05/02/20 12:46 am as nate? :)
sam 05/02/20 12:47 am heh your poll on roms & prez is funny
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 12:47 am Heh
sam 05/02/20 12:47 am i guess most of your visitors must be foreign
:)
sam 05/02/20 12:47 am noone selected pat buchanan heh
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 12:48 am Someone from West Palm Beech did.
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 12:49 am The Pat Buchanan one is the funniest.
sam 05/02/20 12:49 am ya
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 12:49 am That's the only poll where Harry Browne won.
sam 05/02/20 12:49 am i never even heard of him :)
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 12:49 am Libertarian.
sam 05/02/20 12:50 am lesbian?
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 12:50 am There are no libertarians in CA.
sam 05/02/20 12:50 am actually i like libertarians the bet
sam 05/02/20 12:50 am best
sam 05/02/20 12:50 am wasnt that jerry brown guy like that
sam 05/02/20 12:50 am jefferson davis would have been a libertarian
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 12:52 am Libertarians are like anti-socalilsts.
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 12:53 am http://www.lp.org/
sam 05/02/20 12:53 am ya i know
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 12:53 am If they had a chance in hell of winning, I
would be in that party.
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 12:54 am I'm a closet Libertarian.
sam 05/02/20 12:54 am i think they should kill social security,
unemployment tax, transfer paymetns
like transfer payments (socialist crap) is 45%
of the govt budget
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 12:54 am Not that I want to be on the winning side, I
just think any Republican is better than any
Democrat =)
sam 05/02/20 12:55 am i dont think anything will change until like
europe or the japs organize themselves to be
more powerful than the us
sam 05/02/20 12:55 am probably 200 years
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 12:55 am Many Republicans are also closet Libertarians
also.
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 12:55 am It's been said that a democracy only lasts 250
years.
sam 05/02/20 12:55 am unless there's a depression
sam 05/02/20 12:56 am we're not in a democracy
sam 05/02/20 12:56 am socialist state:)
sam 05/02/20 12:56 am anyway greek democracy lasted much longer
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 12:56 am Acutally, we are a republic.
sam 05/02/20 12:56 am well theoretically yes.. but practically not
really
sam 05/02/20 12:56 am elections are controlled
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 12:57 am Heh, this one wasn't =)
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 12:57 am Jeb didn't control it enough =)
sam 05/02/20 12:57 am heh :)
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 12:57 am I love giving people this URL:
http://www.lp.org/quiz/
sam 05/02/20 12:57 am they have a tell-a-friend.. maybe we can add
cpa deals there:)
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 12:58 am Heh
sam 05/02/20 12:59 am i answered yes to everything :)
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 12:59 am I would love to convert about 1 million people
to Libertarians =)
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 12:59 am Heh
sam 05/02/20 12:59 am maybe you can buy an opt-out campaign w/
eFront!
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 12:59 am You are standing with your nose in the corner.
sam 05/02/20 12:59 am only 10 cents a name of people who will opt-in
to become a libertarian :)
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 12:59 am How about opt-out of pop-ups for $5 =)
sam 05/02/20 1:00 am heh
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 1:00 am Yea, buy votes =)
sam 05/02/20 1:00 am i bet u answered no to a few questions
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 1:00 am I love giving that form to people who say they
are a Democrat just because their parents were
Democrats.
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 1:00 am Let me take the quiz again.
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 1:01 am Actually, I said yes to all also.
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 1:01 am Libertarians are basically Jeffersonians.
sam 05/02/20 1:02 am i bet most people would say yes to all if they
arent insecure
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 1:02 am Like the founding fathers wanted.
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 1:02 am That's why it's funny to have Democrats fill
it out.
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 1:03 am And Al Gore would place low and the left on
that chart.
sam 05/02/20 1:03 am of course, a movement like that wont go
anywhere without a strong leader
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 1:04 am I can't believe the people who voted for
Nader.
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 1:05 am None I talked to even knew what he wanted to
do.
sam 05/02/20 1:05 am its about branding :)
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 1:05 am Heh, yea.
sam 05/02/20 1:05 am nader= consumer, populism
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 1:05 am But the guy is a total socalist.
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 1:05 am Like goverment control of everything
sam 05/02/20 1:06 am ya i know
sam 05/02/20 1:06 am he must have been picked on when he was a kid
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 1:06 am Top tax rate of 100% at $150k, etc.
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 1:06 am I swear, he's a communist.
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 1:07 am It should be called the red party instead of
the green party.
sam 05/02/20 1:07 am even al gore wasnt that bad
sam 05/02/20 1:07 am i think democrats=kissass party.. whatever is
the current trends
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 1:08 am Yea. I would have voted 3 times for Gore if
the choices were just Gore and Nader.
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 1:09 am Democrats bring race, gender, and class into
everything.
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 1:09 am I heard the gheyest thing about Bush's tax
plan from some Democrat the other day.
sam 05/02/20 1:11 am i like jerry brown's flat tax rate fore
verythingL)
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 1:11 am Something like someone making $900k/year would
get a $26k/year tax cut but someone that can
barly make ends meet making $20k/year only
gets a $700/year cut.
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 1:11 am He didn't mention that if you do the math, the
guy making $20k/year gets a larger tax cut.
sam 05/02/20 1:11 am heh
sam 05/02/20 1:11 am ya i know
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 1:11 am It's all about class, race, and gender with
those fucks.
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 1:12 am They do everything in their power to divide
the country. For their own gain.
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 1:12 am Yea, I like a flat tax rate also.
sam 05/02/20 1:13 am or pay down the nat'l debt with all the money
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 1:13 am And it should be on what you spend, not what
you make.
sam 05/02/20 1:13 am ya.. VAT
sam 05/02/20 1:13 am euros have that right at leat
sam 05/02/20 1:13 am of course, they do both
sam 05/02/20 1:13 am 70% on what you make and 15% on what u spend:)
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 1:13 am You can't control what you make or what the
stock market makes you, or what you get from
an estate.
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 1:13 am The government taxes things that you can't
control.
sam 05/02/20 1:14 am and the better yolu are at making tings, the
higher they penalize u
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 1:14 am Yea, it should be more like %5 of what you
spend.
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 1:14 am Right, that makes complete sense (not).
sam 05/02/20 1:14 am it aint 4ever going to happen
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 1:15 am You've convinced me, I won't do taxes this
year =)
sam 05/02/20 1:16 am setup a corp in bahamas or something
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 1:16 am I made $1.05 the last 4 days with DimeClicks,
where should I and avfind retire to?
sam 05/02/20 1:16 am and have efront pay u there:)
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 1:17 am Yea, then when I draw money from the account
I'll be charged full taxes on it.
sam 05/02/20 1:17 am sell ur contract to ur bahamas company for
10cents on the dollar:)
sam 05/02/20 1:17 am dont withdraw money :)
sam 05/02/20 1:17 am heh
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 1:17 am Heh
sam 05/02/20 1:18 am get a villa in the bahams
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 1:18 am Yea, money does a lot of good just sitting
there =)
sam 05/02/20 1:18 am as ur winter getaway :)
sam 05/02/20 1:18 am or have that cmpany do biz w/ ur company heh
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 1:18 am I'd have to fly there though =)
sam 05/02/20 1:18 am flying isnt a bad thing
sam 05/02/20 1:18 am what im suggesting is legal :)
sam 05/02/20 1:19 am i hate the govt .. thats what im going to do
if i ever make money :)
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 1:19 am I know, but I don't want to live in the
bahamas =)
sam 05/02/20 1:19 am ya..
sam 05/02/20 1:19 am but u dont have to live there
sam 05/02/20 1:19 am let that company do biz w/ ur company in ohoi
sam 05/02/20 1:19 am thats ur paper company :)
sam 05/02/20 1:20 am ur taxes would be reduced to like 15 % or
somethign
sam 05/02/20 1:20 am thats what we're doing w/ efront and efront
europe
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 1:20 am Yea, and when my company in Ohio gets the
money, then it's taxed.
sam 05/02/20 1:20 am yeah.. but ur company in ohio will have
expenses:)
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 1:20 am But my company now has expenses.
sam 05/02/20 1:21 am heh.. well like i said it lowers ur taxe
sam 05/02/20 1:21 am and free vacations :)
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 1:21 am Heh
sam 05/02/20 1:21 am http://mpog.efront.com/roy/data.php3
sam 05/02/20 1:22 am jonathan was working on this the last 2 days..
he's a good programmer
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 1:22 am If exitfuel, valueclick, and commission
junction pay, I could really lower what you
need to pay me =)
sam 05/02/20 1:22 am do u think they'll pay
sam 05/02/20 1:22 am hey.. maybe u can do that on the rest of the
sites
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 1:22 am That's why I'm doing it.
sam 05/02/20 1:23 am but then u have to get all the webmasters to
cooperate
sam 05/02/20 1:23 am which should be easy anyways.. just bash them
over the head if they dont
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 1:23 am 1) set example of what needs to happen if you
are making something on the side.
2) lower efront's costs.
sam 05/02/20 1:23 am yeah.. thats good
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 1:23 am This is how I see it.
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 1:24 am If a webmaster does something on the side, it
gets them money even if eFront can't pay,
also, it lowers what eFront has to pay so it's
easier for them to stay afloat.
sam 05/02/20 1:24 am ya.. how do we implement this
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 1:25 am Megagames and I already are =)
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 1:25 am I think webmasters would jump on the chance to
server their own ads.
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 1:25 am If they think it's so grand out there, let
them try it.
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 1:25 am If they make more than what they are getting
paid now, fine, we don't need to pay them
anymore and they make more.
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 1:26 am Even if they only make $10, eFront pays $10
less and they see that it's hard to make money
out there.
sam 05/02/20 1:26 am the only thing is accounting
sam 05/02/20 1:26 am like megagames made $$ on bottodollar for 6
months
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 1:26 am The only down side is making sure they report
anything.
sam 05/02/20 1:26 am and he hasnt reproted that
sam 05/02/20 1:26 am we should tax them on what they make.. :)
sam 05/02/20 1:26 am like the govt hehe
sam 05/02/20 1:26 am and have brackets
sam 05/02/20 1:27 am heh
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 1:27 am It's a 100% tax though.
sam 05/02/20 1:27 am i know..
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 1:27 am The site is owned by eFront.
sam 05/02/20 1:27 am they wont report it though
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 1:27 am Hold payments till they report what they make.
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 1:28 am Making money on the side is not acceptable.
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 1:34 am load averages: 484.99, 231.40, 112.83
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 1:34 am Okay, this is getting stupid.
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 1:37 am We need to get people to sign up with a
service like ProPay which makes $5/sign-up and
then they use it to register for the site for
another $5.
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 1:38 am load averages: 533.14, 317.75, 158.93
Swap: 512M Total, 494M Used, 18M Free, 96%
Inuse
kvm_open: out of memory
sam 05/02/20 1:40 am were u able to call nate's cell?
maybe use *67 so he doesnt know u were calling
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 1:41 am I made .99/CPM with valueclick yesterday and
1.40/CPM today =)
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 1:41 am And about .40/CPM with cj.com
sam 05/02/20 1:42 am thats awesome
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 1:42 am Actually, better than that, more like
.79-.40/CPM
sam 05/02/20 1:43 am sam: (9:42 AM) how come tim can do all that
and we couldnt
sam: (9:42 AM) with the cpc stuff
roy7: (9:42 AM) Who knows.
Tim for Traffic!
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 1:43 am .50/CPM from cj average for yesterday.
sam 05/02/20 1:43 am i think we need u in traffic too :)
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 1:43 am Heh
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 1:43 am It's WHERE you place the ads =)
sam 05/02/20 1:43 am iknow
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 1:43 am No one looks at the top/bottom ads, that's why
they get like 0.22% CTR
sam 05/02/20 1:44 am how about this
sam 05/02/20 1:44 am randomly change ht eposition of the banner as
sam 05/02/20 1:44 am banners on each refresh
sam 05/02/20 1:44 am :)
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 1:45 am I got 0.63% CTR with cj and .52% with
valueclick.
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 1:45 am How about just make it required that ads can't
be placed at the top or the bottom.
sam 05/02/20 1:45 am what was that url again
sam 05/02/20 1:45 am wehre the codes were
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 1:45 am What codes?
sam 05/02/20 1:45 am i mean the url
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 1:46 am url of what?
sam 05/02/20 1:46 am where u had it next to the text link (of the
valueclick ad)
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 1:46 am oh.
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 1:46 am If my site was up right now, you could see it
=)
sam 05/02/20 1:46 am it works for me
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 1:47 am Oh, it just crashed agin 3 minutes ago =)
sam 05/02/20 1:48 am roy7: (9:47 AM) Tim making us that $ or does
he keep it? ;)
I bet VGS stuff will work on RPGamer! Both
sites are back up, so that'll be a project
this week.
VGS has grown from 30K pages to almost 100K
page teh past 6 months or so we've owned them.
They do over $1K/mo now in revenue. That's a
gross CPM well over $10, which we split with
them, so $5 CPM profit off the site. Just need
to drive more gaming traffic/users there and
it's more money.
[roy loves vgs and pennayrcade.. i cant
convince him that it wont work on a mass
scale:]
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 1:48 am http://64.156.174.76/pages/cgi/1.php?_fib_/xmc
ta.zip|
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 1:48 am http://64.156.174.76/pages/cgi/2.php?_fib_/xmc
ta.zip|981337486|390e30bed4b7e01d61c9c6eff1fba
be
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 1:51 am Yea, more traffic to that site will only mean
the CPM rate will go down.
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 1:51 am I tried really hard to sell stuff on my site
and never sold software.
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 1:51 am I could sell hardware, but only made about
$1000 over like 4 months.
sam 05/02/20 1:51 am ya i know
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 1:52 am Now, a site like gamerankings or another site
that reviews games could send traffic to VGS
and make money.
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 1:53 am But they already do, and that's one of the
reasons why his traffic has gone up.
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 1:54 am For a game link I send to storerunner it makes
.115/click.
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 1:54 am I send about 1600/day like that.
sam 05/02/20 1:54 am so can u get an edict out to g3.. for all the
webmasters..dont put ads at the top and bottom
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 1:54 am If we would get paid 100% of that, it would be
$184/day.
sam 05/02/20 1:55 am i know.. u dont have to convince me :)
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 1:55 am If the commissions were 5%, it would take
$3,680 in sales per day!
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 1:56 am Even at 10% commissions, it would require
$1,840/day in sales, or at $40/game, 46 game
sales per day.
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 1:57 am With commission junction, I sent them 552
clicks the last two days and not a single
person purchased anything.
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 1:58 am Since I started testing cj, I've sent them
2,421 clicks and no one has purchased anything
yet.
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 1:58 am And these are links to popular games with nice
ads.
sam 05/02/20 1:58 am do u only get paid on ppl purchasing?
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 1:59 am No, .08/click.
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 1:59 am I'm going to use ValueClick more slowly
because they pay .19/click.
sam 05/02/20 1:59 am we can probably get alot of cpc campaigns at
20cent+
sam 05/02/20 2:00 am problem is if we run it on top and bottom
bannrs, thats not any money
sam 05/02/20 2:00 am how can we scale what you're doing
sam 05/02/20 2:00 am if we can get tons of cpc ads
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 2:01 am We get sites that have content like downloads
to add cpc banner ad next to the "download"
button and they remove the top banner.
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 2:01 am Or bottom banner.
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 2:01 am Bottom banner would probably be best to
remove. So it doesn't mess with their site
design and still tracks page views correctly.
sam 05/02/20 2:02 am yeah.. who would be able to analyze each site
and order the webmasters what to do
sam 05/02/20 2:02 am this is like a fulltime gig
sam 05/02/20 2:02 am and keep optimizing and evaluating
sam 05/02/20 2:02 am are u sure u dont just wanna be an employee
heh
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 2:02 am I've already said, you can't afford me.
sam 05/02/20 2:03 am i know i was kidding
sam 05/02/20 2:03 am we're getting you for free now anyways
sam 05/02/20 2:03 am why add to the cost :/
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 2:03 am Heh, yea even better =)
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 2:03 am Maybe one day you make me chief marketing
director or something.
sam 05/02/20 2:03 am have you ever met Marc D
sam 05/02/20 2:04 am he could do something like this..
sam 05/02/20 2:04 am but he has his own site..and he's flakey..
meaning he'll do something..then move on to
something else..but he's the marketing
creative type too
sam 05/02/20 2:05 am that guy john gaffney is like sr vp marketing
director or something @ srunner
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 2:06 am Harsha isn't backing down from his $5/1000
uniques thing.
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 2:07 am What about an extension.
sam 05/02/20 2:07 am yeah try that
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 2:07 am How about $4, an extension, and no IPO
restriction.
sam 05/02/20 2:08 am well 4 * 6 = 24k.. and he has upside if his
traffic grows (and it will)
sam 05/02/20 2:08 am how about 3, cap of 30k/month, an extension
and no ipo
sam 05/02/20 2:08 am focus on the cap
sam 05/02/20 2:09 am ask him if he wants to make more than 30k
sam 05/02/20 2:09 am and ask him how much more he wants to make
sam 05/02/20 2:09 am ask him to project how many unique users he
plans on getting int he next 6 months
sam 05/02/20 2:09 am tell him that based on his traffic, he could
possibly get 500k uniques a day
sam 05/02/20 2:09 am since most of the gaming sites are going down
sam 05/02/20 2:10 am as they have no backers or networks
sam 05/02/20 2:10 am this is time to consolidate
sam 05/02/20 2:10 am and gain market share,.. not whine about a few
k here and there
sam 05/02/20 2:10 am he can be bigger than game-revolution and some
of the other big sites that are actually
getting 500k uniques a day
sam 05/02/20 2:10 am and that he could possibly get 1 mil uniques a
day
sam 05/02/20 2:10 am and get all the gamers to come to his site
sam 05/02/20 2:11 am 1 mil * 30 * 2.5 = 75k/month
sam 05/02/20 2:12 am and also that we were gonig to make megagames
the center of efront gaming
sam 05/02/20 2:12 am and introduce it at e3
sam 05/02/20 2:12 am so we'll be driving lots of traffic to it
sam 05/02/20 2:13 am afterwards, lets try to get his payable
through january 31 added to the end of the
contract, minus 15k for feb 19 :)
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 3:17 am We need to create another ad position for
these cpc campaigns.
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 3:17 am Then have sites replace their bottom ad with
the cpc ads right next to their download
button.
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 3:18 am If there's no cpc ads, then the normal bottom
ad rotation takes over.
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 3:23 am Man, we need megagames to be pointing to
megagames.efront.com
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 3:23 am That gives us so much more leverate.
sam 05/02/20 3:23 am forget that.. hgow about gaming.efront.com :)
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 3:24 am Both.
sam 05/02/20 3:24 am kill the megagames brand:)
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 3:24 am Yea
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 3:24 am But we needed to do that yesterday.
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 3:24 am These are the kinds of things we just need to
be able to get done.
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 3:25 am I don't care if s4r does it, Nate does it, I
do it, or someone else does it.
sam 05/02/20 3:25 am i know.. i'd been on matt for like a year..
the new server moves do that
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 3:25 am It just needs to be done like weeks ago.
sam 05/02/20 3:25 am ya i knwo
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 3:26 am Like now search engines link to
arcadeathome.efront.com and stuff.
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 3:26 am Other sites link that way also.
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 3:27 am After like 6 months, they know if they leave
they will be left with a shell of visitors.
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 3:27 am And that it's important to keep efront.com
working.
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 3:27 am No efront.com, and no gaming.efront.com
redirection.
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 3:31 am Harsha is convinced we are making $50k from
his site.
sam 05/02/20 3:32 am i got an idea..we tell him to take the banner
and make it zero :)
sam 05/02/20 3:32 am we get nonbanner creatives + do hotsing
sam 05/02/20 3:32 am and he can keep the banners:)
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 3:38 am Heh, lets see what he says =)
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 3:38 am He says his partners are pissed right now.
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 3:38 am I say who cares, they are not really partners
anyway, they are just employees.
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 3:39 am They get paid like $90k/year to play games and
post reviews and shit.
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 3:39 am I would fire them, hire someone $500/month to
do it, and keep the difference.
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 3:40 am If he did that, $3/1000 would pay as much as
he's making now.
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 3:40 am With unlimited up-side potential.
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 3:40 am I keep telling him to reduce their pay or fire
them.
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 3:40 am He's scared of them or something.
sam 05/02/20 3:44 am i was jjust on the phone w/ s4r
sam 05/02/20 3:44 am damn nate
sam 05/02/20 3:44 am they've been trying to call him all day
sam 05/02/20 3:44 am they dont know which ip the sitefights box is
on etc. no communicatinos
sam 05/02/20 3:45 am and they said the nfs issue is that the
freebsd client crashes on certain files
sam 05/02/20 3:45 am when it tries to access the files that are on
the nfs server
sam 05/02/20 3:45 am tell harsha you will negotiate for him with
his 'partners
sam 05/02/20 3:45 am and that whatever you can negotiate away, we
get to keep :)
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 3:45 am Heh
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 3:46 am I told Harsha he should tell them that it's
either less, or $0, take your pick.
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 3:47 am If they choose $0, then Harsha can hire
someone for $500/month and keep more stock for
himself.
sam 05/02/20 3:47 am i wrote an email to s4r
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 3:47 am I think he mixed business with friends.
sam 05/02/20 3:47 am "do you guys ever respond"
sam 05/02/20 3:47 am heh
sam 05/02/20 3:48 am they called me and sent a detailed email and
everything
sam 05/02/20 3:48 am hehe
sam 05/02/20 3:48 am yeah.. what did harsha say
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 3:48 am He's just being a pussy with them and does
anything they say.
sam 05/02/20 3:49 am what about if you manage megagames.. and we
give him 10k/month..and he doesnt have to do
anything
sam 05/02/20 3:49 am hehe
sam 05/02/20 3:49 am see if he goes for that:)
sam 05/02/20 3:49 am we can always get him to mange it after we
fire every1 :)
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 3:50 am He's getting $15k/month right now. I say
offer $15k so it's an easy sale.
sam 05/02/20 3:50 am thats a good idea
sam 05/02/20 3:50 am try it
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 3:51 am I think $2.50/1000 is about $14k for him.
sam 05/02/20 3:51 am ALSO
sam 05/02/20 3:51 am his intiial payment was 15k/month
sam 05/02/20 3:51 am and on traffic increase, it becamse 30k
sam 05/02/20 3:51 am (i think)
sam 05/02/20 3:51 am actually no
sam 05/02/20 3:51 am it was always 30k.. but his traffic increased
alot
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 3:52 am His traffic increased as CPM rates decreased.
sam 05/02/20 3:53 am btw, we already have it in the plans to do the
following:
1. replace the mg logo with efgt
2. add efront to the site next to megagames
3. replaces megagames with "gaming"
4. redirect megagames to gaming.efront.com
5. redirect gaming.efront.com to his site
6. hide the cracks section
sam 05/02/20 3:53 am we have the efg girl (efront gaming girl)
we're going to use as the mascot
sam 05/02/20 3:53 am hehe
sam 05/02/20 3:53 am so its better to take the site under our
control if we can anyways :)
sam 05/02/20 3:53 am then we can rehire his buddies for 500/month
sam 05/02/20 3:53 am how bout if he tells his buddies that efront
took over megagames and its out of his hands
sam 05/02/20 3:54 am and they have to deal directly w/ us`
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 3:54 am Heh, or find two other 16 year olds that would
jump on the chance.
sam 05/02/20 3:54 am on payments
sam 05/02/20 3:54 am i know
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 3:55 am Yea, I'm already telling him to blame eFront
for it.
sam 05/02/20 3:55 am is he budging any :)
sam 05/02/20 3:56 am maybe tell him what we're going to do
sam 05/02/20 3:56 am rename it to gaming.efront.com etc
sam 05/02/20 3:56 am and get rid of the megagames brand
sam 05/02/20 3:56 am and promote it
sam 05/02/20 3:56 am or do we tell hiim that afterwards
sam 05/02/20 3:56 am heh
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 3:56 am I've already told him we are going to be doing
that.
sam 05/02/20 3:56 am what did he say to that
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 3:57 am Nothing really, we are communicating via
e-mail, so no everything is replied to.
sam 05/02/20 3:57 am ohhhhh
sam 05/02/20 3:57 am i wonder how come..he's on icq
sam 05/02/20 3:57 am heh
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 3:57 am He's already agreed to the payment per 1000
uniques.
sam 05/02/20 3:57 am do u have his icq
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 3:57 am Yea, he just started e-mailing me.
sam 05/02/20 3:57 am too much pressure :)
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 3:57 am Heh, probably.
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 4:02 am Is the Xdrive campaign over yet?
sam 05/02/20 4:02 am yeah way over
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 4:03 am Well, G3 needs to tell people to remove that
crap then.
sam 05/02/20 4:03 am i told him to do that
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 4:03 am and get rid of the cross-promotion 88x31
banners at the same time also.
sam 05/02/20 4:03 am he said he was waiting on efront isp campaign
to replace
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 4:04 am Ghey.
sam 05/02/20 4:04 am i think g3 likes to do one thing at a time..i
have to tell him no
sam 05/02/20 4:04 am he doesnt like to go to bwebmasters everyday
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 4:04 am So we just give x-drive visitors till then?
sam 05/02/20 4:04 am i think its too bad
sam 05/02/20 4:04 am we need to give a project to the webmasters
everyday
sam 05/02/20 4:04 am even if we make something up..that way they
get iun the habit
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 4:04 am They would LOVE to hear that we can delete two
banners off their pages!
sam 05/02/20 4:05 am can you write a list of things to do and email
g3 and cc me
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 4:05 am The placement of the x-drive banners is shit
anyway for an isp campaign.
sam 05/02/20 4:05 am including the download button cpc stuff etcq
sam 05/02/20 4:05 am ya i know
sam 05/02/20 4:05 am if we send cj and vc and all those massive
clicks and signup an efront account
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 4:05 am G3 thinks it would be easier to just tell
webmasters to replace the xdrive link with an
ISP link.
sam 05/02/20 4:05 am they'd kick us ut though
sam 05/02/20 4:06 am ya i know
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 4:06 am Well, we can at least move the bottom ad to a
better location.
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 4:06 am And then maybe try to sell some cpc stuff
ourself.
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 4:07 am If we can increase the CTR to .50 from .22,
and get .20/click, that's $1/CPM.
sam 05/02/20 4:08 am yeah.. do you want to handle all the cpc stuff
, placement, etc. you can keep 5% of
everything on all the sites.. but you'd have
to manage the entire process (and get g3 to do
whatever u need).. heck, if we make 100k.. 5k
to you is easy :) and we could do that too
with all the sites
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 4:08 am From the bottom banner that probably ain't
making much anyway.
sam 05/02/20 4:08 am and you sign us up however it needs be , keep
track of stuff, etc.
sam 05/02/20 4:09 am let the checks come to attn: efront CPC so
bill can note them all ..or even dba
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 4:09 am Well, even our existing banners would be
better in that placement.
sam 05/02/20 4:09 am ya i kmow
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 4:09 am Do we have CPC stuff now?
sam 05/02/20 4:09 am but still.. there's lots of bannres out there
sam 05/02/20 4:09 am yeah here's what we're running..
sam 05/02/20 4:10 am http://mpog.efront.com/roy/data.php3#Top
sam 05/02/20 4:10 am top is top banner, top1 is bottom
sam 05/02/20 4:10 am most of l90 is cpc .. and so is click2net
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 4:11 am Lat90 0 438,548
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 4:11 am Excellent.
sam 05/02/20 4:11 am secure.admonitor.net
efront/media
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 4:11 am 400k banners and no clicks?
sam 05/02/20 4:11 am thats l90
sam 05/02/20 4:11 am its rich media..so we dont record
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 4:12 am Oh.
sam 05/02/20 4:12 am but we can check stats there
sam 05/02/20 4:12 am they suck
sam 05/02/20 4:12 am and they run all sorts of shit
sam 05/02/20 4:12 am i'd rather get advertising.com to pay us 25
cent
sam 05/02/20 4:12 am i know they would
sam 05/02/20 4:12 am if we know we can do this
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 4:13 am I'm sure it will help.
sam 05/02/20 4:15 am s4r is trying to find nate .. they sent
another email.. man talk about dependancy
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 4:18 am No kidding.
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 4:19 am Babynames.com has that stupid 88x31 cross
promotion button and the x-drive button. that
is SO ghey.
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 4:19 am Like anyone would ever click on either of
those.
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 4:20 am I'm telling her to remove that shit.
sam 05/02/20 4:20 am ya i know
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 4:20 am (when she can ever get into her site).
sam 05/02/20 4:20 am i can get to her site.. cna u
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 4:20 am Not our problem, it's her ISP, she can't get
on at all.
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 4:24 am Heh, babynames refreshes banners =)
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 4:24 am Won't matter anyway with the $/1k uniques.
sam 05/02/20 4:25 am yeah i know.. we told her to get rid of it
awhile ago and she was bitching:)
sam 05/02/20 4:25 am but she qgreed to new terms now
sam 05/02/20 4:25 am so wont matter
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 4:25 am You mean the $/1k terms?
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 4:26 am Banner rotations are good for CPC ads.
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 4:26 am Just not good if we are paying per CPM.
sam 05/02/20 4:26 am yeah..
sam 05/02/20 4:27 am no not the exact terms.. just that she'd
substantially reduce
sam 05/02/20 4:46 am http://www.pdquick.com/checkout/OurAffiliates.
sp?AC=12
i just ordered food.. and babynames.com was
listed as a favorite site
funny that the other sites have
bfast/linksynergy, ie affiliate program
but not babynames.. so they must really like
bn:)
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 4:47 am Good to have friends =)
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 4:53 am Okay, I think Eric knows the details of the
task.
sam 05/02/20 4:54 am whos eric
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 4:56 am Oh, eFront programmer that Nate uses.
sam 05/02/20 4:57 am aha ..which task
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 4:57 am Oh sorry, Dennis was asking about the
storerunner stuff.
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 4:57 am http://arcadeathome.efront.com/dl.phtml?psx/bl
em%21w.zip|
sam 05/02/20 4:57 am did u mean to send that eric msg to dennis:)
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 4:58 am Like what I have, were you can have targeted
text ads easily added to the page.
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 4:58 am I sent it to you also.
sam 05/02/20 4:58 am k
sam 05/02/20 5:01 am i thought ur msg from nate where he said i
quit ws really serious heh
sam 05/02/20 5:01 am if u didnt put the j/k wouldve thought for
sure he buckled under pressure:)
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 5:05 am Heh
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 5:05 am Fooled you, lets see if it fools s4r and
softaware =)
sam 05/02/20 5:05 am Nate: (1:03 PM) plz do not give out s4r
employee's personal cell phoen numbers
sam: (1:03 PM) btw can u call phil.. they were
looking for ya
sam: (1:03 PM) i didnt..
Nate: (1:03 PM) harsha got todd's cell phone
sam: (1:04 PM) even *I* dont know todds phone
#
Nate: (1:04 PM) i dont really know what the
issue was, nick has had the IP for
thesitefights the whole time :P
sam: (1:04 PM) he must have gotten it from
s4r's tech support ppl
sam 05/02/20 5:05 am did u give harsha s4r's cell# :)
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 5:06 am Heh, no.
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 5:07 am Harsha got it from Todd or from s4r
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 5:07 am He called s4r and he got in touch with Todd
all on his own.
sam 05/02/20 5:09 am heh i think nate is ina pissy mood :)
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 5:10 am Heh
sam 05/02/20 5:10 am Nate: (1:07 PM) why are they waiting on me?
i do NOT understand this at all..why the HELL
does S4R require me to do anything? megagames
went down...so what? why do i need to be
called. megagames is written in shitty perl
which crashes - thus when the server dies, S4R
should reboot em.
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 5:10 am Maybe I'll do something to piss him off =)
sam 05/02/20 5:10 am heh
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 5:11 am I have to agree with nate there. I've told
Harsha that he should convert all his shit to
php.
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 5:11 am Cause it won't scale with perl.
sam 05/02/20 6:22 am Swedie (ICQ#20386173) Wrote:
Sam, are you serious about counting money
after the number of unique visitors? That
would mean I get less than half of what I earn
now.
[was this guy under you"]
sam 05/02/20 6:40 am Swedie: (2:35 PM) Nice that you still like
demonews
I like your hosting .. when it works ;-) hehe.
I wish I could find some job that would pay me
a few more hundred dollars every month.. you
don't have any job at eFront I can do for a
few hundred dollars per month? I don't need
any huge pile of money for doing tech support,
maintenance and so on.
[he'd be willing to go on $2/unique ..but asks
if we have 200/month parttime work for him :]
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 11:37 am Okay, here's the deal with Harsha. We pay him
$10k, he serves his own ads and we get the
creatives and non-banners on the site =)
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 11:38 am I don't think you expect to make $20k in
banner ads off his site, do you?
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 11:38 am It's win/win I think.
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 11:38 am We save $20k.
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 11:39 am 1) He can either make more than $30k, he wins
but we save $20k so we win also.
sam 05/02/20 11:40 am he does have 90 million banner impressions per
month
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 11:40 am 2) He can't make anywhere near $30k and he
comes back crawling, we still save $20k
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 11:41 am He even wants it to be a temporary thing.
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 11:41 am Will losing 90 million banner views hurt us
for 3-6 months?
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 11:41 am We can still say that we serve x number of
page views.
sam 05/02/20 11:41 am oh i dont care what we say
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 11:41 am We just don't serve ads on those pages.
sam 05/02/20 11:41 am i was thinking in terms of $$
sam 05/02/20 11:42 am thats like 25 cent cpm.. and he does have
decent cilckthrus .. he averages like .45%
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 11:42 am Think about it.
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 11:43 am Well, we get all the pop-ups, storerunner and
crap.
sam 05/02/20 11:44 am yeah thats true.. i have to ask drazen to see
how much $ we make on that stuff :)
ask him if he would take that for the next 3
months and he keeps 100% of all the $ and no
backpay.. then we're back on regular schedule
of 30k/month
so.. for the next 90 days (feb, mar, apr), he
gets
90 mil * 3= almost 300 mil imps.. he could
possibly make 300k (since he says he can get
$1cpm)
and it will more than make up for whatever we
owe him
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 11:45 am Right.
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 11:46 am That was his first offer, so me countering
with the backpay would probably work.
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 11:46 am I told him that I would think about it.
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 11:47 am If we're making $0.50/CPM from his 90 million
banners, it's not worth it.
sam 05/02/20 11:50 am tell him this:
* Nov, Dec, Jan.. 90k - 6k (already paid) =
84k balance.
* Feb, Mar, April =90k
* so he takes the imps for the next 3 months,
he cuold make 300k,
he makes a profit of 150k.. in return, we get
rid of the ipo restriction..
* we still host, serve non-banner stuff, etc.
sam 05/02/20 11:52 am (we'd serve it through our realmedia.. he just
tells us what tags to put there)
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 11:52 am That would work.
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 11:53 am You need to research what we make from his
banners though.
sam 05/02/20 11:53 am i thnk we make 100k+ :)
sam 05/02/20 11:53 am we used to anyways
sam 05/02/20 11:53 am when we did the banner stuff
sam 05/02/20 11:53 am but now we're doing mostly direct marketing
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 11:53 am And I get to keep whatever I talk him down
for, so that's a cook 20k a month for me ;)
sam 05/02/20 11:54 am heh
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 11:54 am Yea, it's important that we look at what we
think we will make feb, march, april, may, not
what we made in November.
sam 05/02/20 11:55 am the way i figure, it would reduce our defaults
sam 05/02/20 11:56 am also we're using our banners now to send
traffic to direct marketing, so thats hard to
calculate
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 11:57 am Just think about it.
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 11:57 am And reply tomorrow.
sam 05/02/20 11:58 am we could give him bottom banners + 10k maybe
:)
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 11:58 am Heh, I don't think he would go for that =)
sam 05/02/20 11:58 am i should msg him.. at least u worked him this
far..:) or would that ruin it
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 11:59 am Basically, what he said was that him and his
partners have already spent the entire
$30k/month and if they get anything less, they
won't be able to pay the bills.
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 11:59 am Half million dollar house, BMW M5, Range
Rover, etc.
sam 05/02/20 12:00 pm ya right.. his bills are 6k/month.. he gave me
a detailed breakdown alrady :)
sam 05/02/20 12:00 pm i think he'll like the chance to make 150k :)
sam 05/02/20 12:00 pm that sounds reasonable i think
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 12:00 pm Oh yea, but is it right for eFront.
sam 05/02/20 12:00 pm yeah.. if we dont have to pay him for the next
3 months and forgive the past 3 months
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 12:01 pm Like we pay him $10k, he makes $50k, and we
lose $50k
sam 05/02/20 12:01 pm and we run our popups for direct marketing :)
sam 05/02/20 12:01 pm oh his proposal.. nah i'd never go for that
sam 05/02/20 12:01 pm i was talking about the 2nd one
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 12:01 pm Meaning forgiving debt and getting rid of the
ipo thing.
sam 05/02/20 12:02 pm * forgiving debt
* no ipo thingy
* he gets next 3 months of banners (total
value according to his own figures, at least
300k)
* we get nonbanner creative + hosting expense
obviously
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 12:03 pm And we pay him nothing?
sam 05/02/20 12:03 pm yep.. the 300k should cover everything
sam 05/02/20 12:03 pm of coruse, he'll say they need $ coming in
etc. and you can reply with.. we can always
loan you some money heheh
sam 05/02/20 12:03 pm tell him this helps us get back on our feet
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 12:03 pm I'll propose it.
sam 05/02/20 12:04 pm and hopefully he continues to increase traffic
so that in 3 months, the 30k/month would not
be an issue
sam 05/02/20 12:04 pm for us, i think it'd be a break even deal..
but most importanlty,, helps the cashflow :)
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 12:04 pm And when he firgures out that everyone is
paying shit and paying net60, he'll come
crawling back.
sam 05/02/20 12:04 pm ya.. so this would be the perfect deal :)
sam 05/02/20 12:05 pm tell him this is win/win for both parties :)
sam 05/02/20 12:05 pm because it helps us get back on our feet.. and
lets him make extra $$ and really test the
market
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 12:06 pm This is like his bachelor party. One last
time to be on his own =)
sam 05/02/20 12:06 pm yeah .. :) and actually he can show the
results from what he did
sam 05/02/20 12:06 pm to us.. and if he does as good as he says,
then it would be a nonissue.. we'd pay himm
30k/month :)
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 12:07 pm Yea, and keep whatever extra he makes =)
sam 05/02/20 12:07 pm tell hiim @ 1.5 cpm he can make 450k :)
sam 05/02/20 12:07 pm buy a 2nd house:)
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 12:07 pm Yea, I'll use his own figures of $1.30/CPM.
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 12:08 pm What about loaning him money if he needs to be
bailed out? =)
sam 05/02/20 12:08 pm well he said previously his partners dont nee
$
and tell him we bailed him out w/ 6k.. so if
he needs anything, of course we dont wanna see
him in trouble.. so just make a detailed list
of his expneses, and we'll see what we can
do.. we always take care of our own..its
really a non issue :)
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 12:09 pm Any money we loan we can lower our burden for
future months =)
sam 05/02/20 12:09 pm obviously:)
sam 05/02/20 12:09 pm we can add 10,000 shares to ur stuff if u can
get this done:)
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 12:10 pm Okay, I'll make it sound like it will hurt us
and it's a chance for him to make a ton of
cash quickly.
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 12:10 pm =)
sam 05/02/20 12:10 pm yeah :)
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 12:11 pm I know he will piss and moan about the IPO
thing.
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 12:11 pm That's his "out", we both know it.
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 12:11 pm And he knows it.
sam 05/02/20 12:11 pm tell him ipo is out of our control.. the
market dictates that
sam 05/02/20 12:12 pm and if he doesnt agree to that, we 'll have no
long term interest in megagames
sam 05/02/20 12:12 pm so we'll really whore his site like mad
sam 05/02/20 12:12 pm heh maybe dont say that:)
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 12:12 pm Heh
sam 05/02/20 12:12 pm tell him we'll redirect traffic to
gaming.efront.com
sam 05/02/20 12:12 pm so he can probably get megagames back anyways
sam 05/02/20 12:12 pm the domain will be useless in 6 months
sam 05/02/20 12:12 pm thats better :)
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 12:13 pm Yea, nothing in the contract says that we
can't make megagames.com into
gaming.efront.com =)
sam 05/02/20 12:13 pm actually the ipo thing shouldnt even matter
sam 05/02/20 12:13 pm actually i should look at all the contracts w/
the ipo thing
sam 05/02/20 12:13 pm and makre tsure thy're going to *.efront.com
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 12:14 pm Yea.
sam 05/02/20 12:14 pm even change the names
sam 05/02/20 12:14 pm baby.efront.com
sam 05/02/20 12:14 pm eFront Baby :)
sam 05/02/20 12:14 pm jennifer would be pissed:))
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 12:14 pm Heh
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 12:14 pm babynames.efront.com is already bad enough.
sam 05/02/20 12:15 pm but what we'll do with harsha is even worse:)
sam 05/02/20 12:15 pm megagames will have no traffic :)
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 12:16 pm Does his contract say that his payments would
be prorated if it drops below a certain level?
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 12:16 pm Cause if he doesn't agree, we can always just
turn off his server for the next 6 months.
sam 05/02/20 12:17 pm prorte
sam 05/02/20 12:17 pm prorate
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 12:17 pm heh
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 12:18 pm 0% of $30k = $0 =)
sam 05/02/20 12:18 pm heh
sam 05/02/20 12:18 pm ur really evil :)
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 12:18 pm Harsha, sorry dude, we lost your hard drive.
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 12:19 pm Now sign this or you'll get exactly $0 for the
next year.
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 12:19 pm =)
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 12:19 pm Well, you've gotta be half evil in business.
=)
sam 05/02/20 12:19 pm we have so much power in the cntract heh :)
we'd probably get sued:)
sam 05/02/20 12:19 pm 49% evil
sam 05/02/20 12:19 pm that way we can say we're the good guys :)
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 12:20 pm Heh, okay 49% it is.
sam 05/02/20 12:20 pm did u see the report from dennis
sam 05/02/20 12:20 pm someones gotta change the search.php so we
dont cross it
sam 05/02/20 12:21 pm basically, they should give us an xml file for
each category that we can download.. and we
expect to be paid 100%
sam 05/02/20 12:21 pm and if they dont want us sending clicks, then
dont send the data in the xml :)
sam 05/02/20 12:21 pm that makes it really simple
sam 05/02/20 12:21 pm and we update our xml file everyday
sam 05/02/20 12:21 pm and we only send clicks from there
sam 05/02/20 12:21 pm what bout that
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 12:22 pm Heh, that's exactly what I told Eric and
Dennis today.
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 12:22 pm StoreRunner can't give us shit if they are
giving us the products to link to.
sam 05/02/20 12:22 pm that gets all the click and counting
responsibitlies off of us and on to them
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 12:23 pm Yup.
sam 05/02/20 12:23 pm and we have a search script that only searches
our xml file
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 12:23 pm It's stupid to require us to do it.
sam 05/02/20 12:23 pm what bout the case where megagames links to
'warcraft III ' and its not in the xml they
sent us
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 12:23 pm Well, they can still do direct links.
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 12:24 pm Those we may not be paid for I guess.
sam 05/02/20 12:24 pm i thought instead of going to storerunner.com
, search.php would just search our local xml
file
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 12:24 pm But, we can try to do most of them via their
XML file.
sam 05/02/20 12:24 pm so we dont put stress on their servrse either
sam 05/02/20 12:24 pm we should ask for the entire xml file :)
sam 05/02/20 12:24 pm (that they want to pay us for:)
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 12:24 pm The problem is that our local XML file
wouldn't have their entire catalog on it.
sam 05/02/20 12:25 pm or as much as posible.. i mean we probably
dont need somehting in the home category for
example
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 12:25 pm And they won't give out their entire catalog.
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 12:25 pm I want more granular categories.
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 12:25 pm Liek N64, PSX, Dreamcast, PS2 instead of just
"gaming".
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 12:26 pm Then, webmasters could link to a random PS2
product.
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 12:26 pm When the visitor was on a PS2 section.
sam 05/02/20 12:26 pm yeah that would bebetter
sam 05/02/20 12:26 pm how about how harsha does.. he sends the most
clicks
sam 05/02/20 12:26 pm (cuz i made him do it).. in cracks or training
or whatever
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 12:26 pm There's no good way to make sure a particular
game will be paid.
sam 05/02/20 12:26 pm he links to the name of the game in questino
sam 05/02/20 12:27 pm if its not in the xml file, maybe we send to
goto.com heeh :)
sam 05/02/20 12:27 pm send to diamonds w/ goto :)
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 12:27 pm Heh
sam 05/02/20 12:27 pm but srunner will see that and see we're
cheating goto
sam 05/02/20 12:27 pm shucks :)
sam 05/02/20 12:27 pm or just search goto
sam 05/02/20 12:27 pm that as default.. and we can see how much went
to srunner vs. other
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 12:28 pm Well, there's no way that StoreRunner will
give us a database large enough where even
close to every game will be in it.
sam 05/02/20 12:28 pm and we can try to monetize them tsome other
way
sam 05/02/20 12:28 pm u dont htink?
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 12:28 pm No, they already said that.
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 12:29 pm If we are doing searches on our end, we are
not using their engine.
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 12:29 pm They also don't want to release their
database.
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 12:29 pm So for each category, the most we could expect
is 20 products.
sam 05/02/20 12:29 pm they're stupid
sam 05/02/20 12:29 pm man
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 12:30 pm But, if we can get like 20 random PS2 products
and put a link on a PS2 page, the CTR will be
high.
sam 05/02/20 12:30 pm yeah.. but we hve so many diff categories and
keywords
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 12:31 pm We can still do random product links via the
search.
sam 05/02/20 12:31 pm so u want to take the aah model across the
efront network ?
sam 05/02/20 12:31 pm i think most of the clicks are through direct
links to products right now:)
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 12:31 pm G3 already made a list of categories, and they
were open to doing it.
sam 05/02/20 12:31 pm btw, avfind is waiting on xml from us or
something
sam 05/02/20 12:31 pm and allt he mp3 songs
sam 05/02/20 12:31 pm did u see their list of mrechants, thats what
i call ghey
sam 05/02/20 12:32 pm nate is changing megagame.efront.com right
now:)
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 12:32 pm Good.
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 12:32 pm Would be good for it to be that way tomorrow
when I talk to him =)
sam 05/02/20 12:32 pm tell him his relucatnce to work with us has
put us on alarm, and we're already starting
the process of deeply integrating megagames w/
efront:)
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 12:32 pm I just rememberd that I didn't eat dinner
today.
sam 05/02/20 12:33 pm i just ordered pizz:)
sam 05/02/20 12:33 pm man srunner sucks.. i wish there was a better
way
sam 05/02/20 12:33 pm u know waht theyre trying to do? they're
trying to do a
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 12:33 pm Goto.
sam 05/02/20 12:33 pm so we put that
sam 05/02/20 12:33 pm and pass a keyword
sam 05/02/20 12:33 pm and they display an image + the product
sam 05/02/20 12:33 pm however, they cant even get it working..they
said 6 months of engineering
sam 05/02/20 12:34 pm we should write it for them :)
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 12:34 pm Heh
sam 05/02/20 12:34 pm what do u think
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 12:34 pm The problem with an iframe is that it would be
a banner ad then.
sam 05/02/20 12:34 pm ya i know
sam 05/02/20 12:34 pm well we can say we dont want image
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 12:34 pm Which means it couldn't be placed in good
locations.
sam 05/02/20 12:35 pm we could say text link only
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 12:35 pm Still, it would be a banner.
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 12:35 pm Different background color, etc.
sam 05/02/20 12:35 pm because u have to specify width/height?
sam 05/02/20 12:35 pm what about realtime xml like goto does
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 12:36 pm I think that would be the problem, speed.
sam 05/02/20 12:36 pm ithink they need to fire moire ppl :)
sam 05/02/20 12:36 pm did eric ever figure out that search= bug
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 12:37 pm No, we are waiting for StoreRunner to give us
an example.
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 12:37 pm I ain't going to chase a ghost.
sam 05/02/20 12:37 pm ya.. i think they are full of it
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 12:38 pm "Show me an example and I'll fix it."
sam 05/02/20 1:01 pm harsha is still running internetfuel like
crazy.. w/ his uniques, he should be making
good $
200k * 30 = 6 mil * 5cpm = 30k
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 1:09 pm Except that exitfuel only counts like 10% of
the uniques =)
sam 05/02/20 1:10 pm ya i know.. he thought he was being smart :)
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 1:10 pm And I'll get on his ass about the bottom
dollar and exitfuel crap.
sam 05/02/20 1:10 pm did i ever show u the email i sent him
sam 05/02/20 1:10 pm he replied back saying bsically that he
guesses he didnt cooperate w/ us :)
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 1:11 pm I don't think so. Part of this deal will
"forgive" his past side deals also =)
sam 05/02/20 1:11 pm ya.. :)
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 1:11 pm Cause if he wants to play hard ball, we will
look into everything like that
sam 05/02/20 1:12 pm check ur email heh
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 1:12 pm And turn off his server =)
sam 05/02/20 1:12 pm and deport him :)
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 1:12 pm And he would owe us money =)
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 1:12 pm Yea, deport him, and sue him for bottomdollar
and exitfuel profits =)
sam 05/02/20 1:12 pm then we'd have to extradite him back :)
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 1:13 pm I'm just joking, it won't get to that. =)
sam 05/02/20 1:13 pm oh darn
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 1:13 pm Heh
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 1:13 pm I hope he freaks when he sees
megagames.efront.com
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 1:13 pm I won't even talk to him till that is working.
sam 05/02/20 1:14 pm i just msged nate again.. he said he'd do it
in 2 minutes 2 hrs ago heh
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 1:14 pm Well, I think he's dependant on softaware to
do it.
sam 05/02/20 1:15 pm nope
sam 05/02/20 1:15 pm he just redirect in httpd.conf :)
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 1:20 pm Not if megagames.efront.com doesn't exist.
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 1:53 pm This VPN thing is nothing but trouble.
sam 05/02/20 1:59 pm damn i snet a fucked up email to cais and
their president, ceo, and all of them
sam 05/02/20 1:59 pm im really stupid:)
sam 05/02/20 2:00 pm i accidently moved my mouse or something and
it sent it
sam 05/02/20 2:00 pm oh well.. i followed up qucikly with a better
one :)
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 2:01 pm Heh
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 2:02 pm Well, cais got paid what they were worth.
sam 05/02/20 2:02 pm zippo :)
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 2:02 pm Right
sam 05/02/20 2:03 pm they were begging us at the end.. check out
the email heeh
sam 05/02/20 2:07 pm maybe we can pay them 10 cents on the dollar
:)
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 2:07 pm How about cais just goes away or we sue them
for lost revenues.
sam 05/02/20 2:07 pm yeah we have the lawsuit ready actually
sam 05/02/20 2:07 pm i want to drag it out a little bit
sam 05/02/20 2:07 pm cuz i think it'll go awawy.. they need to save
the embarassment
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 2:08 pm Talk them down it price first, then sock it to
them.
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 2:08 pm And agree to not discuss their shit system.
sam 05/02/20 2:09 pm heh i know :)
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 2:09 pm Just tell them if they don't f-off, you will
release details of their crappy network.
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 2:09 pm Now when I run "netstat -I fxp0 -w1" I get no
collisions.
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 2:10 pm Before, I got more collisions than I did data
transfered.
sam 05/02/20 2:10 pm good idea
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 2:11 pm Just tell them to run "netstat -I fxp0 -w1" on
any of their servers and then write eFront off
as a loss.
sam 05/02/20 2:12 pm u shouldve seen it
sam 05/02/20 2:12 pm when they called me to get payment last week
sam 05/02/20 2:12 pm i was like um no.. we need accountabilty ..
service sucx, etc.
sam 05/02/20 2:12 pm they said basically we'll cut u off
sam 05/02/20 2:12 pm i said ok thats a good idea do it
sam 05/02/20 2:12 pm their cfo was flabbergated
sam 05/02/20 2:12 pm he was like 'um.. dont you need connectivity
for ur business'
sam 05/02/20 2:12 pm hehehe
sam 05/02/20 2:13 pm i said, well u said u cant extend credit, fine
dont extend credit.. shut us off.. and lets
try to resolve this
sam 05/02/20 2:13 pm we called their bluff .. it took him like 5
mins to get what i was asying :)
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 2:14 pm Well, we do need connectivity for our
business, that's why we left.
sam 05/02/20 2:14 pm heh good one.. darn i missed that
sam 05/02/20 2:14 pm but he didnt know we were leaving
sam 05/02/20 2:14 pm he thought they would shut our serfices down
and we'd be hosed
sam 05/02/20 2:15 pm they still think we're hosed i think :)
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 2:16 pm Yea, I called them and told them that eFront
sucked and I wanted my server back and that
all eFront sites were down.
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 2:16 pm Then I cried on the phone to them.
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 2:18 pm Or maybe I didn't =)
sam 05/02/20 2:21 pm what did they say :)
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 2:22 pm I mentioned eFront and I got transfered to the
manager on a speakerphone and there were other
people in the room. Like an instant meeting.
sam 05/02/20 2:23 pm ha
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 2:23 pm I just told them that they shut down my site
and had my content locked where I couldn't get
to it.
sam 05/02/20 2:23 pm nicolas from europe (funpoint) called them to
see where his website wasand what hppaned
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 2:24 pm Basically, they were stealing content that I
owned.
sam 05/02/20 2:24 pm and they told him that efront tooks the disks
hehehe
sam 05/02/20 2:24 pm what did they say
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 2:24 pm He got legal involved.
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 2:24 pm And had to call me back.
sam 05/02/20 2:24 pm on the pone?
sam 05/02/20 2:24 pm did they call u back
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 2:24 pm Yup, and he relayed to me that legal said I
was fucked.
sam 05/02/20 2:25 pm heh.. just'fucked' ? nothing else?
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 2:25 pm And I just made it clear to them that they had
information that I owned and were not willing
to give it back.
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 2:25 pm I think his exact words were "nothing we can
do"
sam 05/02/20 2:25 pm heh
sam 05/02/20 2:26 pm we really outmaneuverd them :) the whole time,
their cfo and web hosting ppl were telling
their ceo that 'efront cant move out'.. we
have them where we want them. etc :)
sam 05/02/20 2:26 pm i'd pay them 10 cents on the dollar and call
it a wash (use harsha's money for something
:)
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 2:27 pm Heh
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 2:27 pm Actually, with Harsha making $2.60/CPM with
his banners, he could pay the entire amount.
sam 05/02/20 2:28 pm he thinks he can make 2.60? geezzz
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 2:28 pm Well, he talked about eUniverse making $2.60
sam 05/02/20 2:28 pm with their defaults and flycast ads? :)
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 2:28 pm Even though they are serving flycast ads =)
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 2:28 pm Yea, I told him that.
sam 05/02/20 2:29 pm man i need a vacation
sam 05/02/20 2:29 pm hey how come you're not playing with ur kids..
ur on the comp all day heh
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 2:30 pm I was at Major Magics for like 2 hours today
=)
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 2:30 pm It's 1:30am, kids asleep long ago.
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 2:30 pm If you don't sleep, you can get a lot done.
sam 05/02/20 2:30 pm ver been to ciderpoint
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 2:30 pm Matt should have taken you to Jamaca.
sam 05/02/20 2:31 pm nate said he's going to jamaica in march
sam 05/02/20 2:31 pm staying @ matt's house or osmethng
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 2:31 pm I haven't been to Cedar Point this year.
sam 05/02/20 2:31 pm how bout kennywood park
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 2:31 pm Oh, Matt's a Jamacian?
sam 05/02/20 2:32 pm he likes to think he is.. his dad iguess
bought a house there with his Triumph (he was
their bass player) money
sam 05/02/20 2:32 pm and he's been going there every year for the
past 18 yeras in january
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 2:32 pm ghey
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 2:33 pm Now to get some Triumph music from napster.
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 2:33 pm It's probably a timeshare.
sam 05/02/20 2:34 pm http://messages.yahoo.com/bbs?.mm=FN&action=m&
oard=20494015&tid=cais&sid=20494015&mid=3711
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 2:34 pm And his dad sold a Triumph (the car) to buy
it.
sam 05/02/20 2:34 pm a
sam 05/02/20 2:34 pm ya.. i think his dad manipulates penny stocks
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 2:35 pm How ghey.
sam 05/02/20 2:35 pm i should've included that url in my email
accidently
sam 05/02/20 2:35 pm :)
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 2:35 pm Heh
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 2:35 pm Oops, sorry, that wasn't meant for you.
sam 05/02/20 2:36 pm they';re actually controlled by KKR now
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 2:36 pm http://messages.yahoo.com/bbs?.mm=FN&action=m&
oard=20494015&tid=cais&sid=20494015&mid=3712
sam 05/02/20 2:36 pm and they always threaten me on the phone w/
that
sam 05/02/20 2:37 pm 'kkr is not happy.. kkr will come down hard..
udont wanna mess w/ kkr' etc
sam 05/02/20 2:38 pm http://messages.yahoo.com/bbs?.mm=FN&action=m&
oard=20494015&tid=cais&sid=20494015&mid=3705
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 2:38 pm Heh
sam 05/02/20 2:38 pm ouch .. 13 and 92 cent
sam 05/02/20 2:39 pm http://messages.yahoo.com/bbs?.mm=FN&action=m&
oard=20494015&tid=cais&sid=20494015&mid=3702
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 2:40 pm OMG, that video below that is from my site.
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 2:41 pm http://www.newvenue.com/archives/feature44/
sam 05/02/20 2:41 pm lol
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 2:41 pm I heard that CAIS also hosted ROMS!
sam 05/02/20 2:41 pm i didnt even notice that..geez, u must really
have an eye for atari :)
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 2:42 pm I'm just looking to get my 24 hours of
streaming porn for $10.
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 2:43 pm "Ten: It's a whole nude world"
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 2:43 pm What a slogan.
sam 05/02/20 2:43 pm what a shitty portal.. who'd use it
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 2:43 pm slashdot linked to me for that video and
killed my server =)
sam 05/02/20 2:44 pm heh
iBLAMEj00 05/02/20 3:10 pm http://cais21.netwhirl.com/RealMedia/sam.php3
http://cais21.netwhirl.com/RealMedia/report.ph
3
sam 07/02/20 11:35 am renegotiations going good.. beetween Will,
Brian, and me we got 15 ewbmasters agreed
already
iBLAMEj00 07/02/20 11:36 am I was working on Scott from Game Rankings.
sam 07/02/20 11:36 am ooh.. hows he going :)
sam 07/02/20 11:36 am he'd b tough i bet
iBLAMEj00 07/02/20 11:37 am Ah, yea.
iBLAMEj00 07/02/20 11:38 am "Okay, I know you're expecting $3200, but $700
is better"
sam 07/02/20 12:06 pm heyill fwd u an article..read the last
part..we should do that:)
iBLAMEj00 07/02/20 12:06 pm k
iBLAMEj00 07/02/20 12:06 pm I had my meeting with StoreRunner today.
sam 07/02/20 12:06 pm really? how did it go
sam 07/02/20 12:06 pm i hjear they're not returnin calls and stuff
iBLAMEj00 07/02/20 12:07 pm Good. He called me right on time.
sam 07/02/20 12:07 pm how did it go
sam 07/02/20 12:07 pm adam?
iBLAMEj00 07/02/20 12:07 pm Yea
sam 07/02/20 12:07 pm what was the result of search=
?
iBLAMEj00 07/02/20 12:07 pm He's going to have to give me an example.
sam 07/02/20 12:08 pm how did everything else go
iBLAMEj00 07/02/20 12:08 pm I ain't looking through 100,000 pages to find
some bad link.
sam 07/02/20 12:08 pm btw, we made $4500 yesterday in direct
marketing
sam 07/02/20 12:08 pm yeh
iBLAMEj00 07/02/20 12:08 pm Excellent =)
iBLAMEj00 07/02/20 12:08 pm We need to pick a couple of sites to test
with.
iBLAMEj00 07/02/20 12:09 pm He's going to add new XML categories designed
for those sites.
sam 07/02/20 12:09 pm im getting pretty excited about stuff..once we
get things moving, i wanna buy tons of more
sites and let sales lead acqs.. because
ultimately, we can do whats in the articles..
every 5 pageviews, a fullscreen ad :)
sam 07/02/20 12:09 pm yeah thats great
sam 07/02/20 12:09 pm megagames, babynames, etc.
iBLAMEj00 07/02/20 12:09 pm He's agreed that it's StoreRunner's
responcibility to provide good links to us.
sam 07/02/20 12:09 pm aah:)
sam 07/02/20 12:09 pm i had an idea.. what about this
sam 07/02/20 12:10 pm displaylink(keyword)
{
find (keword, xmlfile)
if found, display
if not found, pick a random link and display
}
sam 07/02/20 12:10 pm as an ssi
sam 07/02/20 12:10 pm and we get a new xml file everyday
sam 07/02/20 12:10 pm so if that game or wahtever isnt in the xml,
sam 07/02/20 12:10 pm it just displays a random link
sam 07/02/20 12:10 pm better than wasting it:)
iBLAMEj00 07/02/20 12:11 pm Well, when we want a direct link to a product,
we should probably do it like we are doing.
iBLAMEj00 07/02/20 12:11 pm There will be a much higher click thru rate if
it's for a particular game.
iBLAMEj00 07/02/20 12:12 pm And there's no way the XML file will have
enough stuff in it to make a search valid.
iBLAMEj00 07/02/20 12:12 pm We are talking probably 20 products in a
category.
sam 07/02/20 12:12 pm what about if the product isnt found or
something
sam 07/02/20 12:12 pm too bad huh :)
sam 07/02/20 12:12 pm what about if we're sending too many clicks to
that merchant
iBLAMEj00 07/02/20 12:13 pm Then they need to modify their search so those
are not at the top.
sam 07/02/20 12:13 pm he agreed tot hat?:)
iBLAMEj00 07/02/20 12:13 pm They meaning StoreRunner.
sam 07/02/20 12:13 pm thats the way it should be
iBLAMEj00 07/02/20 12:14 pm He agrees that that's what SHOULD happen,
getting there is the problem.
sam 07/02/20 12:14 pm adam seemed like a nice guy..but they always
override it
iBLAMEj00 07/02/20 12:14 pm But, the XML stuff will be easy to impliment
network wide and level things out so certain
products are not so hot like they are today.
iBLAMEj00 07/02/20 12:15 pm The 2-3 sites we use as a test have to really
promote StoreRunner.
sam 07/02/20 12:16 pm so you should figure out which sites to pick
iBLAMEj00 07/02/20 12:16 pm I think one should be babynames. Not sure how
willing Jenn will be.
sam 07/02/20 12:17 pm she has to be
sam 07/02/20 12:17 pm this is a true test..
sam 07/02/20 12:17 pm she said she'd cooerate 110%
sam 07/02/20 12:17 pm she has to get rid of allt he amazon stuff on
her site
iBLAMEj00 07/02/20 12:17 pm We don't have to cover the site with ads, just
make it look nice. If we use Eric to write
the code, it should be easy for her to do.
sam 07/02/20 12:17 pm thats good we can do that
iBLAMEj00 07/02/20 12:18 pm What we also need this for is when Merchants
go to StoreRunner and want to see examples of
eFront ads.
iBLAMEj00 07/02/20 12:18 pm They can send them to BabyNames and be
impressed.
sam 07/02/20 12:18 pm ohhh tmerchantsknow about efront?
sam 07/02/20 12:19 pm thatmakes sense
iBLAMEj00 07/02/20 12:19 pm Yea, they know about us =)
sam 07/02/20 12:19 pm so adam said they (srunnr) dont know where to
send merchants to right now huh
iBLAMEj00 07/02/20 12:19 pm When we started sending hits, a bunch of their
merchants wanted to know where all the new
hits were coming from.
sam 07/02/20 12:19 pm heh rally
iBLAMEj00 07/02/20 12:19 pm Right
sam 07/02/20 12:20 pm did they say shop.efront.com
iBLAMEj00 07/02/20 12:20 pm Heh
iBLAMEj00 07/02/20 12:20 pm Maybe.
iBLAMEj00 07/02/20 12:20 pm Or the 404 page =)
sam 07/02/20 12:21 pm so was adam pretty in an upbeat mood? ihar
theyre going to fire half their emplohees
iBLAMEj00 07/02/20 12:21 pm But, if we use the XML file with specific
categories, and use Eric to write a script
that can be installed easily on any site, we
can easily add storerunner links to all our
sites, and using a method that StoreRunner and
the merchants like.
iBLAMEj00 07/02/20 12:22 pm Heh, he was fairly upbeat.
iBLAMEj00 07/02/20 12:22 pm Maybe that's why no one is replying, they're
fired =)
sam 07/02/20 12:22 pm that sounds great
sam 07/02/20 12:22 pm hehya
iBLAMEj00 07/02/20 12:23 pm He did suprise me with something
sam 07/02/20 12:23 pm ?
iBLAMEj00 07/02/20 12:24 pm That the StoreRunner agreement talks about us
having to have a storerunner ad in our web
guide.
sam 07/02/20 12:24 pm forget that.. that is surprising:) of coures,
we can saya our entire web page is ourwebguide
so its a mot point
iBLAMEj00 07/02/20 12:25 pm Well, there's "above the fold" verbage in the
contract :/
iBLAMEj00 07/02/20 12:25 pm Which is stupid for a CPC campaign.
sam 07/02/20 12:25 pm ya
iBLAMEj00 07/02/20 12:26 pm I planted the seed that we could remove that
from the contract, because it's really
meaningless.
sam 07/02/20 12:26 pm ya we'll probably need to dothat
iBLAMEj00 07/02/20 12:26 pm I told him how worthless the storerunner ads
are in the web guide.
iBLAMEj00 07/02/20 12:27 pm http://64.156.174.76/pages/php3/serverload.php
iBLAMEj00 07/02/20 12:28 pm That's my load balancing and stats that I've
been working on so my server doesn't crash :/
sam 07/02/20 12:29 pm how r u doing that
iBLAMEj00 07/02/20 12:30 pm What, the report or keeping the server from
crashing?
sam 07/02/20 12:31 pm crashing
iBLAMEj00 07/02/20 12:32 pm I check the system every minute and record
several different values.
iBLAMEj00 07/02/20 12:32 pm Like free RAM, swap memory used, etc, the
stuff on that report.
iBLAMEj00 07/02/20 12:32 pm Then I turn off downloading for a certain
percentage of people.
iBLAMEj00 07/02/20 12:33 pm Like right now, only 14% of downloads over
100k are working.
iBLAMEj00 07/02/20 12:33 pm So they may have to try to download like 8
times before it works.
iBLAMEj00 07/02/20 12:33 pm Sucks being them.
iBLAMEj00 07/02/20 12:33 pm Anyway, I then created the report based upon
those logs.
iBLAMEj00 07/02/20 12:34 pm So I can adjust the logic and keep things
running.
sam 07/02/20 12:34 pm did nate ever respond back to u on the memory?
sam 07/02/20 12:34 pm nate got sick of me.. he flew back to virginia
today :)
iBLAMEj00 07/02/20 12:34 pm I think he "fixed" it by limiting the number
of people that can be on my site =)
sam 07/02/20 12:35 pm i thought u fixed that:)
sam 07/02/20 12:35 pm matt is coming tonight though.. drazen is
picking him up @ the airport rigfht now
sam 07/02/20 12:35 pm what a loser.. we have to kick him in the
butt:)
iBLAMEj00 07/02/20 12:36 pm Now's your chance to clean out his office and
put Greg in there.
sam 07/02/20 12:36 pm he has the messiest office in the place.. he's
sooo unkempt
sam 07/02/20 12:36 pm not sure whether it wouldnt be better to lock
him in there
sam 07/02/20 12:36 pm away from every1
sam 07/02/20 12:37 pm thera flu is gross
iBLAMEj00 07/02/20 12:38 pm What's s4r going to do without Nate?
sam 07/02/20 12:38 pm ooh now they have matt.. matt's a little
better.. he is too lazy.. he *wants* them to
do everything :)
iBLAMEj00 07/02/20 12:39 pm That's perfect =)
sam 07/02/20 12:39 pm i think i like the idea of webmasters calling
them :)
iBLAMEj00 07/02/20 12:39 pm I like it.
sam 07/02/20 1:09 pm The company said in a conference call that
some of the jobs would be lost in the gaming
area of CNet and the backend areas, such as
finance and marketing.
sam 07/02/20 1:09 pm man gaming must not make money in online
publicatins
iBLAMEj00 07/02/20 1:11 pm Yea, cnet's gaming is down now.
sam 07/02/20 1:11 pm CNet's shopping site, mySimon, generated more
than 50 percent of CNet's total leads to
merchants in the fourth quarter, with more
than half representing non-technology
products.
[maybe we could do a deal w/ mysimon if
srunner goes away hh]
iBLAMEj00 07/02/20 1:17 pm Sure.
iBLAMEj00 07/02/20 1:17 pm Hey
iBLAMEj00 07/02/20 1:17 pm emunet.com has been down for like 2 weeks now.
iBLAMEj00 07/02/20 1:17 pm Er, maybe a week, but at least more than a
week.
sam 07/02/20 1:17 pm Nate: (9:17 PM) apache always uses up 100%
ram..thats how it's written :) if its
available itll never let it go unless
something else needs it. so overtime it ends
up using it all
iBLAMEj00 07/02/20 1:17 pm Anyway...
sam 07/02/20 1:18 pm really.. can u let nate know.. he's online
iBLAMEj00 07/02/20 1:18 pm He knows.
iBLAMEj00 07/02/20 1:18 pm But I want to just get rid of the site, point
it to A@H or something.
iBLAMEj00 07/02/20 1:18 pm It's duplicate content anyway.
iBLAMEj00 07/02/20 1:19 pm And its been down for weeks at a time in the
past, Stas ignored it for 8 months, etc.
iBLAMEj00 07/02/20 1:19 pm It's either that or get it working and pay
someone to maintain it.
iBLAMEj00 07/02/20 1:19 pm Besides, it will piss Stas off =)
iBLAMEj00 07/02/20 1:20 pm I told Nate to direct it to my site, but I
really don't care if you want to redirect it
to emux or something. But you won't have to
pay me anything additional for the hits (even
thought they will be small).
sam 07/02/20 1:21 pm ur sit is fine
iBLAMEj00 07/02/20 1:21 pm Nate is high about the RAM.
sam 07/02/20 1:21 pm im not worried about paying u heh
iBLAMEj00 07/02/20 1:21 pm Apache does use all the RAM, but I'm talking
about is using all the SWAP MEMORY!
iBLAMEj00 07/02/20 1:22 pm It keeps using all the swap memory and then it
crashes hard.
sam 07/02/20 1:22 pm i just told nate to redirect emnut to you
iBLAMEj00 07/02/20 1:22 pm The core dumps, I've seen it.
sam 07/02/20 1:23 pm tell nate:) else ill get matt tolook into it
2morrow
iBLAMEj00 07/02/20 1:23 pm Actually, what I need more than RAM is for him
to add another IP and setup FTP, then we can
see if we need more RAM (which I think we do).
sam 07/02/20 1:23 pm he should do that then
iBLAMEj00 07/02/20 1:23 pm I had two servers before, total of 1.5GB, now
one with .5GB =)
iBLAMEj00 07/02/20 1:24 pm And I want root access to the server, I'm the
only one on it anyway.
sam 07/02/20 1:25 pm he should be able to do that
iBLAMEj00 07/02/20 1:25 pm I know Matt won't do it.
iBLAMEj00 07/02/20 1:25 pm I mean anything.
iBLAMEj00 07/02/20 1:25 pm =)
sam 07/02/20 1:26 pm ill talk to matt 2morrow
oh hehe
iBLAMEj00 07/02/20 1:26 pm Talking to Matt is like talking to a black
hole =)
sam 07/02/20 1:48 pm we should get our own goto.com or mysimon.com
about told me that they make real good money
on sprinks (their versino of goto.com --
sprinks.com )
iBLAMEj00 07/02/20 10:39 pm Yea, those open market bidding system things
are good.
iBLAMEj00 07/02/20 10:39 pm And they are all pre-pay.
iBLAMEj00 07/02/20 10:40 pm I've got an idea.
iBLAMEj00 07/02/20 10:40 pm Maybe we can use the web guide for it.
iBLAMEj00 07/02/20 10:40 pm And allow people to bid on displaying an ad on
each site
iBLAMEj00 07/02/20 10:41 pm So lets say that someone wanted to feature an
ad on babynames.com
iBLAMEj00 07/02/20 10:41 pm They could bid on it. Highest bidder gets the
top spot.
iBLAMEj00 07/02/20 10:42 pm If we would combine it with our goto.com
campaign, we could by default display the goto
stuff.
iBLAMEj00 07/02/20 10:42 pm And show what the current bids were.
iBLAMEj00 07/02/20 10:42 pm If someone wants their product listed, they
would submit the bid to us.
iBLAMEj00 07/02/20 10:42 pm product or site or whatever.
iBLAMEj00 07/02/20 10:43 pm The advantage is they get a targeted ad on a
particular site or even a particular page on a
site.
iBLAMEj00 07/02/20 10:43 pm We wouldn't have to have a complicated system
to try it out either.
iBLAMEj00 07/02/20 10:44 pm At first we could just have a link to request
to bid.
iBLAMEj00 07/02/20 10:44 pm And we could do it manually
iBLAMEj00 07/02/20 10:45 pm Now that I think about it, it probably won't
work.
iBLAMEj00 07/02/20 10:46 pm Maybe we should look into buying someone small
who's trying to do it now, but doesn't have
the exposure to be well known.
iBLAMEj00 07/02/20 10:48 pm There's a PD search engine available that many
sites use. Basically, you get a nightly or
weekly feed of the data.
iBLAMEj00 07/02/20 10:49 pm We could use that, and interface goto.com
searches into it.
iBLAMEj00 07/02/20 10:49 pm Then, do our own bidding system.
iBLAMEj00 07/02/20 10:49 pm Maybe I'll try it.
iBLAMEj00 07/02/20 10:50 pm Like just in my community.
iBLAMEj00 08/02/20 12:56 am http://arcadeathome.efront.com/trivia/trivias.
html
We could get a lot of mileage out of a XBOX
give away. It won't be released for like 8
months, and people are really interested in it
=)
sam 08/02/20 1:15 am lets
do it! send to direct marketing team
iBLAMEj00 08/02/20 1:16 am That PS2 pop-up is getting annoying =)
iBLAMEj00 08/02/20 1:16 am It resets the IP list like every hour now or
something.
iBLAMEj00 08/02/20 1:16 am So it's no longer once a day, but more like
once an hour =)
sam 08/02/20 1:18 am its supposed to be once a day.. let me fwd
this msg to jon roy
iBLAMEj00 08/02/20 1:20 am It's not, it seems like they are resetting the
IP/cookie list every hour or something.
iBLAMEj00 08/02/20 3:21 am Scott -Game Rankings: Nope, I will not budge
no matter what. I want what the contract
says, that is why I signed a 3 year contract,
to lock in those values.
Scott -Game Rankings: nope. We have a
contract and I am keeping my end of the
bargain and then some. eFront needs to keep
their end of the bargain or return my assessts
to me.
sam 08/02/20 3:22 am well we should stop his fake pageviews
sam 08/02/20 3:23 am his stupid gateway pages are waste of our
breath
iBLAMEj00 08/02/20 3:23 am Yup.
iBLAMEj00 08/02/20 3:23 am I told him that the bottom line is that we
need to make money off his site. We are not
making $2/CPM now. Therefore, if he doesn't
want to redo the contract, we will have to add
additional programs to his site, delete
sections, etc.
sam 08/02/20 3:23 am so tell him fine.. we'll keep our end of the
bargin.. but we have to count real pageviews,
no more goto.com promotional money, addt'l
programs, etc.
sam 08/02/20 3:24 am yup.. good strategy
sam 08/02/20 3:24 am he msged me but im ignroing him..cuz i know
ur'e dealing w/ him already
iBLAMEj00 08/02/20 3:24 am Heh, he thinks we are letting most sites go.
sam 08/02/20 3:25 am heh.. not :)
iBLAMEj00 08/02/20 3:25 am And that if he sticks to his guns, we will
just let him go.
sam 08/02/20 3:25 am we're only letting the worst sites go
sam 08/02/20 3:25 am we're letting sites go that we dont want
anywyas :)
iBLAMEj00 08/02/20 3:25 am That's what I told him, that WE are letting
sites go.
iBLAMEj00 08/02/20 3:25 am And he's not on that list =)
sam 08/02/20 3:27 am matt is back.. make fun of him going to
jamaica with his mommy :)
iBLAMEj00 08/02/20 3:28 am I will.
sam 08/02/20 3:44 am msg matt.. see if he can fix ur server issues
now
iBLAMEj00 08/02/20 3:48 am k
iBLAMEj00 08/02/20 3:49 am I guess we need to take away Scott's access to
his server also.
iBLAMEj00 08/02/20 3:49 am And we need to make it gamerankings.efront.com
iBLAMEj00 08/02/20 3:49 am I wish it was gamerankings.efront.com already!
:(
sam 08/02/20 3:51 am im telling matt to do it
iBLAMEj00 08/02/20 3:51 am I'm going to tell him that at least he'll have
more free time on his hands =)
iBLAMEj00 08/02/20 3:51 am Meaning Scott will =)
sam 08/02/20 3:51 am heh
sam 08/02/20 3:52 am man nate doesnt do anything
sam 08/02/20 3:52 am he didnt do megagames.efront.com yet either
iBLAMEj00 08/02/20 3:52 am I know :(
iBLAMEj00 08/02/20 3:52 am I don't want to talk to Harsha again till
that's done.
sam 08/02/20 3:52 am im gonna have matt do it today
iBLAMEj00 08/02/20 3:53 am Any everyone with the IPO clause needs to have
that done also.
sam 08/02/20 3:53 am we're going to do it for all sites.. he was
supposed to (nate)..
iBLAMEj00 08/02/20 3:53 am Everyone eventually, but mainly the IPO sites.
iBLAMEj00 08/02/20 3:53 am I mean the IPO clause sites first.
iBLAMEj00 08/02/20 6:52 am I gave Harsha the proposal.
iBLAMEj00 08/02/20 6:52 am And informed him that we are changing his site
to games.efront.com as we speak =)
sam 08/02/20 6:55 am :)
iBLAMEj00 08/02/20 6:55 am I can't wait for him to reply "FUCK NO!"
iBLAMEj00 08/02/20 6:55 am Hey, Scott from Game Rankings said he took a
shit and is thinking things over now =)
sam 08/02/20 6:56 am hehe :)
sam 08/02/20 6:56 am they'll all come around to it
iBLAMEj00 08/02/20 6:57 am It was after he realized that we were not
going to let him go and we would do any and
everything we could to make sure his site made
money, even if that included deleting
underpreforming sections, adding ads like
crazy, etc.
sam 08/02/20 6:59 am heh :) good strategy
iBLAMEj00 08/02/20 7:04 am Who is trsid 3058 on StoreRunner? I can't
find it.
sam 08/02/20 7:06 am idunno..
iBLAMEj00 08/02/20 7:07 am That's the one that's doing that search=
thingy.
sam 08/02/20 7:07 am and half our clicks are doing search= ?
iBLAMEj00 08/02/20 7:08 am No. I don't know the number, but I don't
think it's half.
iBLAMEj00 08/02/20 7:08 am I don't care if it's one or 50M
iBLAMEj00 08/02/20 7:08 am I just want to trace it back.
sam 08/02/20 7:08 am ya...hmm
sam 08/02/20 7:09 am nate knows.. he's online
sam 08/02/20 7:13 am iemailed u something
sam 08/02/20 7:13 am i dont see 3058 on that though weric
iBLAMEj00 08/02/20 7:13 am k
iBLAMEj00 08/02/20 7:13 am Yea, I didn't see 3058 either. I e-mailed
Dennis.
iBLAMEj00 08/02/20 8:42 am Haraha is having a problem with the "forgive
dept" and the "ipo" thing =)
iBLAMEj00 08/02/20 8:42 am Harsha even.
iBLAMEj00 08/02/20 8:43 am But, he didn't say "no way" either =)
sam 08/02/20 10:04 am dont say forgive debt::) use diff words heh
iBLAMEj00 08/02/20 10:04 am Heh
iBLAMEj00 08/02/20 10:05 am forgive debt sound right to me.
sam 08/02/20 11:03 am 'moving balance forward' :)
iBLAMEj00 08/02/20 11:35 am Heh
iBLAMEj00 08/02/20 11:36 am That means nothing.
iBLAMEj00 08/02/20 11:36 am Or do you mean to move the balance to the end
of the agreement?
sam 08/02/20 11:36 am nah..:) dont do that
iBLAMEj00 08/02/20 11:36 am Heh
iBLAMEj00 08/02/20 11:37 am That's what "moving balance forward" means to
me.
sam 08/02/20 11:37 am heh just some words to confuse him and get hm
to agree and make it seem not so bad:)
iBLAMEj00 08/02/20 11:37 am He's worried about the forgive debt thing
because he won't be able to live for 3 months
without it.
iBLAMEj00 08/02/20 11:38 am So I offered to loan him the money.
sam 08/02/20 11:38 am nice
sam 08/02/20 10:59 pm gimme the url for that page where u had the
banner next to the download link
sam 08/02/20 10:59 pm i just see xdrive right now :)
iBLAMEj00 08/02/20 10:59 pm Oh yea, I've made it double evil now =)
iBLAMEj00 08/02/20 10:59 pm I'm going to replace that xdrive link with the
bottom banner, that okay?
sam 08/02/20 11:00 pm i dont care
im just trying to show it to nicolas.. so he
can do the same for hebus.com
sam 08/02/20 11:00 pm we get 40 cent cpc
sam 08/02/20 11:00 pm from a french agency
iBLAMEj00 08/02/20 11:00 pm =)
sam 08/02/20 11:00 pm and hebus is picture site
iBLAMEj00 08/02/20 11:00 pm Okay, just a sec
sam 08/02/20 11:00 pm do u have nicolas's icq
iBLAMEj00 08/02/20 11:06 pm xdrive campaign is over, right?
iBLAMEj00 08/02/20 11:06 pm cause I'm going to remove it right now.
sam 08/02/20 11:07 pm ya
sam 08/02/20 11:07 pm i told g3 to tell every1 to remove
iBLAMEj00 08/02/20 11:09 pm http://arcadeathome.efront.com/dl.phtml?misc/s
f2ux.zip|
sam 08/02/20 11:09 pm how do u recommend hebus does his banners to
get massive clicks
iBLAMEj00 08/02/20 11:09 pm That's double evil. It places the download
next to the banner, but if you refresh, it
alternates between being above and below the
banner. =)
iBLAMEj00 08/02/20 11:10 pm If he's using php, he can just use easy code
like this:
$adswap=date("s")%2;
iBLAMEj00 08/02/20 11:11 pm $adswap is true half the time, then you can
easily make it be on top or on bottom
depending on if it's true or not.
iBLAMEj00 08/02/20 11:12 pm I just modified that page, it's not quite done
yet.
iBLAMEj00 08/02/20 11:13 pm Notice how I also have the other link to
download at the top featuring a storerunner
ad.
sam 08/02/20 11:14 pm how do u recommend that hebus.com be done
iBLAMEj00 08/02/20 11:15 pm let me look, sec.
iBLAMEj00 08/02/20 11:19 pm It should be on all of these pages:
http://hebus.efront.com/babes/gallery2.php3?no
=adriana/&titre=Adriana%20Sklenarikova&index=1
sam 08/02/20 11:19 pm what should be
iBLAMEj00 08/02/20 11:19 pm And make the ad ritght above and right below
where the Back | 1 | 2 | .... navigation is.
iBLAMEj00 08/02/20 11:20 pm People get used to thing, but, if you
alternate where it is, they will click. It's
like rotating the stock at a store. They do
this to get people's attention.
iBLAMEj00 08/02/20 11:36 pm Does he get it?
sam 08/02/20 11:36 pm yes im showing to alex who will get hebus to
do it
iBLAMEj00 08/02/20 11:37 pm He can just move his bottom banner there and
we can use realmedia to enter the code into
his sight, right?
iBLAMEj00 08/02/20 11:37 pm We should move that bottom banner up into
content areas like that everywhere.
sam 08/02/20 11:38 pm yep
iBLAMEj00 08/02/20 11:38 pm I just did on my sight, so count me in =)
iBLAMEj00 08/02/20 11:38 pm sight, heh
iBLAMEj00 08/02/20 11:38 pm site I mean.
sam 08/02/20 11:38 pm can u send instruction to g3 to get all sites
to do it and cc me
iBLAMEj00 08/02/20 11:39 pm Does hebus do the programming for his own
site?
sam 08/02/20 11:39 pm yes i think so
iBLAMEj00 08/02/20 11:39 pm If so, it's like a 5 minute job, I did it
while I was talking with you.
iBLAMEj00 08/02/20 11:40 pm Then maybe we should have him add it first,
then I can give G3 a couple of examples.
sam 08/02/20 11:40 pm k
iBLAMEj00 08/02/20 11:42 pm If 5000 of his ads per day are on that page,
at a 0.40% CTR at .40/click, that's $80/day
iBLAMEj00 08/02/20 11:43 pm Er, I meant 50,000
iBLAMEj00 09/02/20 12:01 am I keep detailed page stats so I know what my
campaign would do =)
http://arcadeathome.efront.com/dl/stats/pagest
ts.phtml
iBLAMEj00 09/02/20 12:02 am Like that DL page I just did that to is here:
6 http://arcadeathome.com/dl.phtml 16,100
2.38% 33.71% 11,003
6th most popular, 11,003 impressions per day.
iBLAMEj00 09/02/20 4:50 am You there?
sam 09/02/20 4:52 am yup..negotiating with nicolas :)
sam 09/02/20 4:52 am and @ home in bed sick
iBLAMEj00 09/02/20 4:52 am :(
iBLAMEj00 09/02/20 4:52 am Someone killed my site or something.
sam 09/02/20 4:52 am really??
sam 09/02/20 4:52 am how
iBLAMEj00 09/02/20 4:52 am changed mappings :/
sam 09/02/20 4:53 am it works?
iBLAMEj00 09/02/20 4:54 am I don't know, It seems like it was down for
the last 3 hours.
iBLAMEj00 09/02/20 4:54 am I can't get to it at all.
iBLAMEj00 09/02/20 4:55 am Hmmm, I can't get to anything at eFront.
sam 09/02/20 4:57 am weird
sam 09/02/20 4:57 am mayube its your isp
sam 09/02/20 4:57 am workey for me
iBLAMEj00 09/02/20 4:57 am Well, part is down because I can get into the
shell and the ftp and there are errors up the
butt.
iBLAMEj00 09/02/20 4:58 am Someone changed drive maps for sure, which
killed everything.
sam 09/02/20 4:58 am do u wanna call s4r
iBLAMEj00 09/02/20 4:59 am There's no way they would know where to map
to.
iBLAMEj00 09/02/20 5:00 am The dns started working agin, strange...
sam 09/02/20 5:01 am ask marc F maybe
iBLAMEj00 09/02/20 5:01 am But the mappings are still screwed.
sam 09/02/20 5:01 am i asked drazen to see where matt is
sam 09/02/20 5:01 am i thnk matt is back.. msg him
iBLAMEj00 09/02/20 5:04 am I got matt, thx.
sam 09/02/20 7:00 am do you want another weapon to negotiate with
:)
iBLAMEj00 09/02/20 7:01 am Sure
sam 09/02/20 7:01 am ProGen: (2:58 PM) heheh i'll send u a copy
when finished - tested it out today on
Funpoint, i sent him a message from you :)
"Hey hows it going?"
"Are you sam we like jsut talked earlier?"
"oops sorry wrong person"
imagine the info i could get lol
sam: (2:58 PM) oh.. is it spoofer or sniffer
ProGen: (2:58 PM) spoofer
sam: (2:58 PM) ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
sam: (2:59 PM) no WONDER!!!!!!!!
sam: (2:59 PM) he sent me this freaky msg this
morning
sam: (2:59 PM) i was like huh
ProGen: (2:59 PM) lol sorry :)
sam 09/02/20 7:01 am imagine being harsha's partner.. and sending
him a msg
"okay sign the deal"
sam 09/02/20 7:01 am :)
sam 09/02/20 7:01 am or someone telling scott from gr.. man the ad
market is bad.. im getting 2 cent cpm
sam 09/02/20 7:01 am :)
sam 09/02/20 7:02 am eVil :)
sam 09/02/20 7:02 am icq spoofer
iBLAMEj00 09/02/20 7:02 am Heh
iBLAMEj00 09/02/20 7:03 am That is evil =)
sam 09/02/20 7:03 am i have it .. progenic is gonna give it to me
hehe
iBLAMEj00 09/02/20 7:03 am Heh
iBLAMEj00 09/02/20 1:02 pm What's up with goto?
iBLAMEj00 09/02/20 1:04 pm Why target my site? Was that just one that
you showed them? Or were they getting mad
hits from it =)
iBLAMEj00 09/02/20 1:05 pm If there's no way to deal with them at this
point, I'm going to change all my links to
porn links. Search for keywords like "dildo"
and stuff like that.
iBLAMEj00 09/02/20 1:16 pm You know what we may want to think about?
Offering to host sites for free, they get the
banner ads and we get the pop-ups and
creatives.
iBLAMEj00 09/02/20 1:16 pm And they could keep ownership in their site.
iBLAMEj00 09/02/20 1:17 pm If we didn't like them or they were not
cooperating, we would just kick them out, no
contract issues.
iBLAMEj00 09/02/20 1:17 pm The only liability would be server load and
bandwidth.
iBLAMEj00 09/02/20 1:17 pm Which we would be able to offset with the
money making stuff.
sam 09/02/20 4:12 pm yeah i already did that with avfind.com he
wanted to leave and stuff.. so i made a deal
we get nonbanner creatives..and we host
iBLAMEj00 09/02/20 4:14 pm I think we could get people to join that way.
Almost free.
iBLAMEj00 09/02/20 4:14 pm http://arcadeathome.efront.com/stats/404log.ht
iBLAMEj00 09/02/20 4:14 pm Look at all the sites doing direct links to my
files =)
sam 09/02/20 4:14 pm heh
iBLAMEj00 09/02/20 4:15 pm The trick is to let them do it for a while,
then catch them and redirect them to your
site. =)
iBLAMEj00 09/02/20 4:16 pm Those are just in the last 20 minutes.
sam 09/02/20 4:16 pm man u must use every trick in the book i tell
u
iBLAMEj00 09/02/20 4:17 pm Hey, I'm writing it =)
iBLAMEj00 09/02/20 4:17 pm http://www.bestdownload.com/emulators.asp?dcat
SNES&detail=321
iBLAMEj00 09/02/20 4:18 pm The site is called "best downloads" yet they
link to fies.
sam 09/02/20 4:18 pm man they're al trying to make$ from banner
ads..how sad:)
iBLAMEj00 09/02/20 4:19 pm Check that link above and the "Click Here To
Download" link on that page. Notice how it
goes to my download page?
iBLAMEj00 09/02/20 4:19 pm It still gives them the file, but they get
served banners pop-ups and stuff too.
iBLAMEj00 09/02/20 4:20 pm Before, these were direct links that just
downloaded from the other site.
iBLAMEj00 09/02/20 4:20 pm Suckers.
iBLAMEj00 09/02/20 4:21 pm http://www.freeroms.com/blank.htm
iBLAMEj00 09/02/20 4:22 pm Heh, someone is cheating flycast =)
iBLAMEj00 09/02/20 4:22 pm Busted.
sam 09/02/20 4:22 pm heh
iBLAMEj00 09/02/20 4:27 pm To:
sales@engage.com,eurosales@engage.com,info@eng
ge.com,support@engage.com,press@engage.com,ir@
ngage.com,privacy@engage.com,partners@engage.c
m,jobs@engage.com,webmaster@engage.com
The Flycast member
FlycastSite = "Freeroms"
is cheating Flycast at the following url:
http://www.freeroms.com/blank.htm
I ran accross this on accident but figured you
would want to know.
Bob
iBLAMEj00 09/02/20 4:27 pm There, that freed a few ads up for us.
sam 09/02/20 4:28 pm heh.. only if we got those ads back 1-to-1..
i'd rather see flycast out of biz...that would
free ads:)
iBLAMEj00 09/02/20 4:28 pm Yea, true.
iBLAMEj00 09/02/20 4:28 pm And you know there are like a million sites
doing just what that guy is doing.
iBLAMEj00 09/02/20 4:29 pm I hate people that cheat banners companies.
sam 09/02/20 4:29 pm ya i know
sam 09/02/20 4:29 pm did ur kids have this recent flu
sam 09/02/20 4:29 pm man im couging now.. i was in bed all day
iBLAMEj00 09/02/20 4:29 pm Yea, about a month ago.
iBLAMEj00 09/02/20 4:32 pm So, do you want to kill goto first or should
I?
sam 09/02/20 4:32 pm about.com 's sprinks program.. they will let
us do this
sam 09/02/20 4:32 pm :)
sam 09/02/20 4:32 pm i already talked to them
sam 09/02/20 4:32 pm and 50/50 rev share
iBLAMEj00 09/02/20 4:32 pm goto.com is ghey.
iBLAMEj00 09/02/20 4:33 pm Yea, screw them.
iBLAMEj00 09/02/20 4:33 pm It's not like we were making people click or
anything. They still clicked on the
description.
sam 09/02/20 4:33 pm we should try to put something else there..
maybe storerunner links in the same fashion
or search results from jobs
iBLAMEj00 09/02/20 4:33 pm If I was paying GoTo, I wouldn't care.
sam 09/02/20 4:33 pm ill talk to matt
iBLAMEj00 09/02/20 4:34 pm How about display storerunner links, but with
a larger image?
sam 09/02/20 4:34 pm how many ?
iBLAMEj00 09/02/20 4:34 pm Man, if we could keep nfs running, we would
almost be a network =)
sam 09/02/20 4:34 pm 5?
iBLAMEj00 09/02/20 4:34 pm I was thinking 3.
sam 09/02/20 4:35 pm 3 large in the whole thing nothing else?
iBLAMEj00 09/02/20 4:35 pm Picture/Link text, Picture/Link text
iBLAMEj00 09/02/20 4:35 pm I still think we should add the
cross-promotion back in there.
iBLAMEj00 09/02/20 4:35 pm Even if it's just at the bottom.
sam 09/02/20 4:35 pm well yeah if there's no goto then we can do it
sam 09/02/20 4:35 pm it was cuz goto made it big already
sam 09/02/20 4:36 pm i guess u liked that dbzhomeworld's banjo
playing guy
iBLAMEj00 09/02/20 4:36 pm And I just wrote my goto scripts also. I'm
pissed.
iBLAMEj00 09/02/20 4:36 pm dbzhomeworld's banjo playing guy?
sam 09/02/20 4:38 pm his crosspromotion graphic has some guy
playing this instrument (some old guy) and
says 'this guy likes dbz..do you'
sam 09/02/20 4:38 pm its funny
iBLAMEj00 09/02/20 4:38 pm Heh
sam 09/02/20 4:38 pm romp.com
sam 09/02/20 4:38 pm he has no moneymaking schemes on his site
sam 09/02/20 4:39 pm we can do some serious damage w/o banners..
lots of email stuff
iBLAMEj00 09/02/20 4:42 pm Yea, and porn.
iBLAMEj00 09/02/20 4:42 pm I'm going to change all my goto links to
search for "dildo"
sam 09/02/20 4:43 pm heh
sam 09/02/20 4:43 pm dildo roms
iBLAMEj00 09/02/20 4:45 pm Damn, I can't even seek vengance against Goto
with matt taking servers down!
sam 09/02/20 4:46 pm goto must be the easiest ppl to cheat
iBLAMEj00 09/02/20 4:47 pm I've got my web guide only showing search
results for dildo now.
iBLAMEj00 09/02/20 4:48 pm Cause you know they will look at my site
tomorrow to see if we removed it yet.
sam 09/02/20 6:04 pm However, although we do not need banner
inventory on your other sites, we could make
your other sites Sprinks affiliates. They
would simply wear the Sprinks container at the
bottom of their site. This can add up to a few
dollars of RPM per page, depending on the
category. For example, see
. If you scroll to the bottom of
the page, you will see the "Sponsored Links",
which is Sprinks. As you can see, clicks start
at $0.78, and in some categories they are
significantly higher. We have been seeing
strong revenue on About, and I would expect
similar results for eFront. I will also try to
get the bonus up another 10-15K, although it
is going to take some more shuffling. This is
as much as we can do, Sam. Let's give it a try
and move forward.
sam 09/02/20 6:04 pm thats from about.. see the link.. they'll let
us do what goto wont
sam 09/02/20 6:11 pm anything ever happen w/ harsha?
iBLAMEj00 09/02/20 10:34 pm Maybe I pissed him off because he's not
replying =)
iBLAMEj00 09/02/20 10:38 pm I know you'd like this:
http://join.netbroadcaster.com/
You can't even enter this site unless you
sign-up =)
sam 10/02/20 12:13 am harsha is still running internetfuel, that bum
sam 10/02/20 12:14 am we need his login/password
sam 10/02/20 12:14 am he's clearly violated our agreement in january
and feb:)
iBLAMEj00 10/02/20 12:16 am Heh
iBLAMEj00 10/02/20 12:16 am But so has eFront =)
sam 10/02/20 12:16 am not really
sam 10/02/20 12:16 am heviolated it first
iBLAMEj00 10/02/20 12:16 am Heh
sam 10/02/20 12:16 am his agreement says payment must bemaede in 60
days
sam 10/02/20 12:16 am but he started running those popups
sam 10/02/20 12:16 am in january
iBLAMEj00 10/02/20 12:19 am Heh
iBLAMEj00 10/02/20 12:19 am Doesn his contract read that or was it a
verbal agreement?
sam 10/02/20 12:20 am what was a verbal agreement?
iBLAMEj00 10/02/20 12:25 am The net60
iBLAMEj00 10/02/20 12:26 am Just a question, not a statement.
sam 10/02/20 12:26 am ya i think it reads that
sam 10/02/20 12:28 am how much of ur traffic still comes to
arcadeathome.com
sam 10/02/20 12:28 am vs aah.ef.com
iBLAMEj00 10/02/20 12:29 am No idea, but probably not a lot.
iBLAMEj00 10/02/20 12:30 am Although, I've got the skillz to make everyone
go back to arcadeathome.com quickly, Harsha
doesn't =)
sam 10/02/20 12:30 am reason im asking is because we have a case w/
freeskills.com
sam 10/02/20 12:30 am in 12 months they get the site back
sam 10/02/20 12:30 am or something
sam 10/02/20 12:31 am and andy (our uk director) is trying to work
some deal out w/ them and they're not budging
iBLAMEj00 10/02/20 12:32 am Well, there's nothing in the contract that
says we can't redirect their site to
freeskills.efront.com, no?
sam 10/02/20 12:32 am we're doing that but..
iBLAMEj00 10/02/20 12:33 am And what kind of deal gives their site back?
iBLAMEj00 10/02/20 12:33 am If you do that, you like split profits or
something.
sam 10/02/20 12:33 am Andye: (8:24 AM) I don't think this will work,
they will own the site structure at the end if
things don't work out as you say, they will
not do the work that way and they also have
the contacts with the content people and most
people will hit freeskills.com before they go
to freeskills.com, so really we loose
iBLAMEj00 10/02/20 12:34 am Nah, over a year the value of their domain is
less, and they will know it.
iBLAMEj00 10/02/20 12:34 am Then at the end of the year they could leave
and be left with 1/2 of their traffic, buy a
redirect from us, or stay with us.
sam 10/02/20 12:35 am this one is a little tougher. i think jonathan
didn this contract
iBLAMEj00 10/02/20 12:35 am If they want to leave with 1/2 of their site,
we could direct the domain to another similar
site or purchase another site with like
content.
iBLAMEj00 10/02/20 12:35 am It sounds like it.
sam 10/02/20 12:35 am and we're paying them like nothing right now..
and if we didnt ipo, they get the site back
and they get some $$
iBLAMEj00 10/02/20 12:35 am Another jonathan "give their site back" deal
iBLAMEj00 10/02/20 12:36 am Still, we change the domain and then we hold
more cards.
iBLAMEj00 10/02/20 12:36 am Who knows what will happen in a year.
sam 10/02/20 12:36 am ya i told that to andy.. change the domain to
yourskills.com :)
sam 10/02/20 12:37 am Andye: (8:29 AM) We could do all sorts of
things, but the truth is that these guys built
this site and it is successful because of
them, so yeah, we could do that but its not
the best way... I just want to find a way to
get them to buy in, but they are being crazy
about it
iBLAMEj00 10/02/20 12:37 am or yourskills.efront.com is even better.
sam 10/02/20 12:37 am was his response
iBLAMEj00 10/02/20 12:37 am Cause then it's linked to efront.
sam 10/02/20 12:37 am he's trying to get them to do some development
work
sam 10/02/20 12:37 am w/ ecomerce on that site
sam 10/02/20 12:37 am that can make us some $$
sam 10/02/20 12:37 am and they're refusing to do it
iBLAMEj00 10/02/20 12:37 am Well, if they don't want to cooperate, we need
to make changes.
iBLAMEj00 10/02/20 12:38 am Meaning their domain.
sam 10/02/20 12:38 am and they said they'll do it if they get that
$$ over time
iBLAMEj00 10/02/20 12:38 am With them, it's more like a lease.
sam 10/02/20 12:38 am and andy's already offered them some $ and %
of revenues too
iBLAMEj00 10/02/20 12:38 am forget that.
sam 10/02/20 12:39 am yeah..but we're still free to do the domain
stuff
iBLAMEj00 10/02/20 12:39 am They are employees.
iBLAMEj00 10/02/20 12:39 am Do it or lose it.
iBLAMEj00 10/02/20 12:39 am I wouldn't even argue with them.
iBLAMEj00 10/02/20 12:39 am They know they are not cooperating, there's no
need for negotiations.
sam 10/02/20 12:40 am ya im trying to get andy to tell them to piss
off
iBLAMEj00 10/02/20 12:40 am This is how I think about it. If they don't
want us to make money off their site, screw
'em.
sam 10/02/20 12:40 am he's just done that
sam 10/02/20 12:40 am Andye: (8:32 AM) sure... I just told them to
piss off and they are coming back for more so
maybe I can break them....
iBLAMEj00 10/02/20 12:41 am Sam, listen....
sam 10/02/20 12:41 am u could probably duplicat ethat site in 5
seconds
sam 10/02/20 12:41 am the content is outsourced by 3rd parties
iBLAMEj00 10/02/20 12:41 am WE NEED TO MAKE ALL SITES XXXX.EFRONT.COM!!!!
sam 10/02/20 12:41 am and we have contracts directly with those
comnpanies now!
sam 10/02/20 12:41 am iknow!! im yelling at matt and nate to do it
sam 10/02/20 12:41 am those bums take their time
iBLAMEj00 10/02/20 12:41 am Like e-mail Nate or Matt and say that they
need to do that before anything.
iBLAMEj00 10/02/20 12:42 am I swear.
iBLAMEj00 10/02/20 12:42 am Give me root access on all boxes and I'll get
it done.
iBLAMEj00 10/02/20 12:43 am I think we just need to submit the new
subdomain to softaware and change something on
the server to automatically redirect.
sam 10/02/20 12:43 am Andye: (8:42 AM) On your earlier comment, the
clause 3 is so weak, you'd have a problem
implementing anything more than general upkeep
and maint work... so I don't agree
[i told them they have to do the development
work ..and this was andy's response to the
maintenance clause we have in the contract]
iBLAMEj00 10/02/20 12:43 am And if we did our own DNS stuff, it would be
even easier.
iBLAMEj00 10/02/20 12:44 am ARGH!
iBLAMEj00 10/02/20 12:44 am Tell those fuckers that WE will do it for them
if they don't want to do it.
sam 10/02/20 12:44 am yeah im asking andy what will it take
iBLAMEj00 10/02/20 12:44 am Hell, we'll take over the entire site if we
want to.
sam 10/02/20 12:44 am to do the development work
iBLAMEj00 10/02/20 12:45 am Ask those pricks if there's a clause that they
HAVE to do the development work.
sam 10/02/20 12:45 am we should've let u negotiate with them :)
iBLAMEj00 10/02/20 12:45 am This is what I would tell them.
iBLAMEj00 10/02/20 12:46 am "You can either allow us to be profitable with
your site, or we will take over management and
do whatever it takes to make money including
adding more ads, deleting underperforming
sections, changing the domain to
yourskills.com, etc."
sam 10/02/20 12:47 am this is another example why having a
consistent design across efront would be
good:)
sam 10/02/20 12:48 am we'll pack up their site's code and store it
in an archive and give it to them in a year
sam 10/02/20 12:48 am and redo the site design/layout to math outs
sam 10/02/20 12:48 am and rediret the url to us
sam 10/02/20 12:48 am then in a year, they can have the archived zip
file
sam 10/02/20 12:49 am Andye: (8:48 AM) I'm now playing very hard
ball - had enough - been at it for 2 hours -
did trips to meet them and everything -
wasting my f***ing time....
iBLAMEj00 10/02/20 1:05 am I like it.
sam 10/02/20 1:06 am andy is really great:) u should meet him
iBLAMEj00 10/02/20 1:06 am I lost my freakin mouse!
sam 10/02/20 1:06 am u'll like him
sam 10/02/20 1:06 am heh
iBLAMEj00 10/02/20 1:06 am What the hell, it's really hard to do anything
without your mouse
iBLAMEj00 10/02/20 1:09 am I guess I've gotta reboot
sam 10/02/20 1:15 am we worked out a deal w/ freeskills.. neat
deal. finishing up w/ andy. i think u'll
like it
iBLAMEj00 10/02/20 1:16 am The latest Netscape seems to actually work
now.
iBLAMEj00 10/02/20 1:17 am If it doesn't involve them kissing our ass, I
won't like it.
iBLAMEj00 10/02/20 1:19 am Although the web guide looks like total shit
because they make the search box too big.
sam 10/02/20 6:52 am u might have to settle up w/ nicolas.. he
wants to be paid + wants his sites back and
everything.. i told him, um they're not ur
site they're efronts:)
iBLAMEj00 10/02/20 6:53 am nicolas who?
sam 10/02/20 6:58 am the french guy
sam 10/02/20 6:58 am emuclassics
sam 10/02/20 6:58 am he's being pissy:)
sam 10/02/20 6:58 am im still working with him
sam 10/02/20 6:58 am but ur style is better
sam 10/02/20 6:58 am :)
iBLAMEj00 10/02/20 6:58 am Heh
iBLAMEj00 10/02/20 6:58 am I thought he was like an eFront employee?
sam 10/02/20 6:59 am he was.. but he's started demanding
iBLAMEj00 10/02/20 6:59 am Cool.
iBLAMEj00 10/02/20 7:00 am People are silly, they just want to get paid
=)
iBLAMEj00 10/02/20 7:01 am What's the details?
sam 10/02/20 7:02 am and being pissy.. ''my last offer' etcc.`
sam 10/02/20 7:02 am man lot of phone calls
sam 10/02/20 7:02 am ok ill fwd u
iBLAMEj00 10/02/20 7:02 am I gave you my last offer and you didn't reply
either =)
sam 10/02/20 7:05 am ya ya
sam 10/02/20 7:05 am ok ill wd u
iBLAMEj00 10/02/20 7:09 am k
sam 10/02/20 7:19 am did u read that.. little fucker:)
iBLAMEj00 10/02/20 7:27 am You have the new site templates?
sam 10/02/20 7:36 am i think they did it let me see
sam 10/02/20 7:36 am heh no comment on the nicolas stuff?
iBLAMEj00 10/02/20 7:37 am I'm talking to G3
sam 10/02/20 7:37 am k
iBLAMEj00 10/02/20 7:42 am hebus.com didn't add those ads yet?
iBLAMEj00 10/02/20 7:42 am slackers =)
sam 10/02/20 7:42 am tell g3 to get alex to get hebus to do it`
iBLAMEj00 10/02/20 7:42 am I already hung up.
iBLAMEj00 10/02/20 7:45 am "Therefore, my sites are still down for 14
days."
Huh? he took his sites down?
sam 10/02/20 7:45 am i think he had his own dns on his own box and
he didnt reply to nate when cais was bringing
us down.. and its a catch-22
sam 10/02/20 7:45 am we could change his dns cuz his box was the
dns
sam 10/02/20 7:45 am which was kinda dumb
iBLAMEj00 10/02/20 7:46 am Heh, yea, real dumb.
sam 10/02/20 7:46 am how is deloitte going to call the cops?
iBLAMEj00 10/02/20 7:48 am "have your head at prime time"
sam 10/02/20 7:49 am heheh
sam 10/02/20 7:49 am i think he means on the news:)
sam 10/02/20 7:49 am i was laughing
iBLAMEj00 10/02/20 7:50 am that is funny
iBLAMEj00 10/02/20 7:50 am "Vest the money and I'll make sure that you'll
not have any trouble with law with the guys I
know. We can write that down if you want."
I think he wants a vest.
sam 10/02/20 7:50 am hehe
iBLAMEj00 10/02/20 7:51 am OMG, he knows people! =)
iBLAMEj00 10/02/20 7:51 am He thinks he has his own personal army that's
above the law in the US or something I guess.
sam 10/02/20 7:51 am @ deloitte?
sam 10/02/20 7:52 am Nate: (3:47 PM) vnc and ftp was turned off the
boxes so he cant access them anymore
sam: (3:48 PM) funpoint: (3:48 PM) please ask
nate to let me access to my servers, I need to
make some backups.
[hehe..fucker!]]
Nate: (3:49 PM) yeah hes complaining to me
sam: (3:49 PM) tell him this is a legal matter
now and you cant do anything about it:)
sam 10/02/20 7:52 am hehe :)
sam 10/02/20 7:52 am this is fun
iBLAMEj00 10/02/20 7:52 am Hehe
iBLAMEj00 10/02/20 7:52 am What a prick.
sam 10/02/20 7:53 am probably me :) but fuck him.. im not taking no
threats from him
sam 10/02/20 7:53 am he's the one who got all hostile
sam 10/02/20 7:53 am i was being pretty cordial:)
sam 10/02/20 7:53 am he told me he did no work in january
sam 10/02/20 7:53 am he was actually hiding from all the webmastesr
sam 10/02/20 7:53 am he said
iBLAMEj00 10/02/20 7:54 am Heh, good guy.
sam 10/02/20 7:54 am i even offered to pay him 6k
sam 10/02/20 7:54 am and fre hosting for a year
sam 10/02/20 7:54 am (12k worth.. 1k/month)
sam 10/02/20 7:54 am and givehim his sites bqack
sam 10/02/20 7:54 am and he could keep some of the shares
iBLAMEj00 10/02/20 7:57 am We should redirect his domains to other sites
for the next year also.
iBLAMEj00 10/02/20 7:57 am No point letting them go to waste while we
fight this out.
iBLAMEj00 10/02/20 8:10 am It doesn't sound like there's much to
negotiate at this point.
sam 10/02/20 8:15 am send them to aah:)
iBLAMEj00 10/02/20 8:19 am Yea, that will piss him off.
iBLAMEj00 10/02/20 8:19 am And it's not like you lose anything by doing
it.
iBLAMEj00 10/02/20 8:19 am Matter of fact, you gain something.
sam 10/02/20 8:22 am ok :) ill let nate do that
sam 10/02/20 8:22 am plus theyre stupid rom sites anyways.. (hehe
nothing against aah::)
iBLAMEj00 10/02/20 8:22 am Heh
iBLAMEj00 10/02/20 8:22 am It's duplicate content.
iBLAMEj00 10/02/20 8:23 am Who needs someone with duplicate content that
admits that he hasn't worked in a month.
iBLAMEj00 10/02/20 8:23 am Is this a sob story or what:
Harsha - Megagames: not really, the servers
are extremely slow again, my partners are
really pissed off because we will only get 50%
of november, what's more, i don't have 10
bucks to spend on gas. i have put my infiniti
on sale...
iBLAMEj00 10/02/20 8:23 am Oh no! he has to put his 3rd car (his
infiniti) on sale
sam 10/02/20 8:24 am tell him that he's still running internetfuel
shit
sam 10/02/20 8:24 am and he wont even get 50%
iBLAMEj00 10/02/20 8:24 am Heh
iBLAMEj00 10/02/20 8:25 am How about I tell him that his 50% is his
exitfuel pop-ups =)
sam 10/02/20 8:25 am tell him
sam 10/02/20 8:25 am + all the bottom dollar stuff
sam 10/02/20 8:25 am fucker
sam 10/02/20 8:25 am imin a bad mood today:)
iBLAMEj00 10/02/20 8:26 am Yea, that's what I'm telling him now.
iBLAMEj00 10/02/20 8:26 am iBLAMEj00: I think your 50% is your exitfuel
popups and bottomdollar commisions.
iBLAMEj00 10/02/20 8:27 am Still no reply yet....
sam 10/02/20 8:27 am heh
sam 10/02/20 8:27 am fuck him
iBLAMEj00 10/02/20 8:27 am I think he'll come around.
iBLAMEj00 10/02/20 8:28 am But I want his payments from 3rd party
sponsors over the last year.
iBLAMEj00 10/02/20 8:28 am If someone wants to run other ads, fine, just
don't demand money then and try to get away
with it.
iBLAMEj00 10/02/20 8:28 am Still no reply...
iBLAMEj00 10/02/20 8:29 am I think he shit himself and he's cleaning it
up.
sam 10/02/20 8:29 am lol
iBLAMEj00 10/02/20 8:29 am Oh god, his storerunner link at the top to the
playststion is going to a massage chair.
iBLAMEj00 10/02/20 8:31 am OMG, it uses the search= thingy too!
sam 10/02/20 8:31 am really??
iBLAMEj00 10/02/20 8:31 am yea.
sam 10/02/20 8:31 am hwat a fucker
sam 10/02/20 8:31 am he cost us the $$
iBLAMEj00 10/02/20 8:32 am And you can't link to one product like that.
iBLAMEj00 10/02/20 8:33 am I know he got that idea from efront, but we
all know that it's making us look like shit.
iBLAMEj00 10/02/20 8:33 am I told him to remove it.
sam 10/02/20 8:33 am where's the url
iBLAMEj00 10/02/20 8:33 am Also, he still hasn't replied.
iBLAMEj00 10/02/20 8:33 am His front page.
sam 10/02/20 8:35 am still looking for it
sam 10/02/20 8:36 am ask harsha if he'll vest us the money from
internetfulel
iBLAMEj00 10/02/20 8:38 am That's a given in my book.
iBLAMEj00 10/02/20 8:39 am He still hasn't replied.
sam 10/02/20 8:40 am but we want it vested:)
iBLAMEj00 10/02/20 8:40 am We want a vest?
iBLAMEj00 10/02/20 8:40 am It's too warm here for even a vest today.
iBLAMEj00 10/02/20 8:40 am I think it's warmer here than it is there.
iBLAMEj00 10/02/20 8:41 am I've gotta feed my kids, I'll wait for him to
reply.
sam 10/02/20 8:53 am I know you read this email. Please give me
back my email and the access to the sites :)
sam 10/02/20 8:53 am btw, you might want to settle up w/ nicolas :)
sam 10/02/20 8:53 am msg him
sam 10/02/20 8:53 am that was his last email
iBLAMEj00 11/02/20 12:07 am Yo
sam 13/02/20 8:27 am hey are u there
iBLAMEj00 13/02/20 10:51 am are now.
sam 13/02/20 10:51 am nt
sam 13/02/20 10:51 am your window popped up
sam 13/02/20 10:51 am and caught the lqast part of my sentence to
someone else:)
iBLAMEj00 13/02/20 10:51 am My window?
iBLAMEj00 13/02/20 10:52 am Oh
sam 13/02/20 10:53 am sam: (6:52 PM) btw, srunner is dead too..
we're terminaing our agreement with them
sam: (6:52 PM) they're not paying us.. dicking
us around
Marc: (6:52 PM) i'll think about it...might be
something we can do...it would be great if we
could consolidate all our music and mp3 stuff
to dmusioc...make it a killer music news
portal
Marc: (6:52 PM) damn :( no $ from em? at least
we got the upfront from em
sam: (6:52 PM) they're saying net 900
sam: (6:52 PM) net 90 days
sam: (6:53 PM) who knows if they'll even pay
then
[was sending that to marc d about srunner]
sam 13/02/20 10:56 am i have the new addendum ready
sam 13/02/20 10:56 am for the websites
sam 13/02/20 10:56 am do u want to see it
iBLAMEj00 13/02/20 10:56 am Sure.
sam 13/02/20 10:56 am we sent it out to alot of sites today
iBLAMEj00 13/02/20 10:56 am "we will do whatever we damn well please and
you'll like it"
sam 13/02/20 10:56 am whos that
iBLAMEj00 13/02/20 10:57 am That's the addendum =)
sam 13/02/20 10:59 am pretty much :)
sam 13/02/20 11:06 am Marc: (6:58 PM) see
http://www.searchbucks.com/
i don't know why we can't link up with a
search engine like they have and run it full
blast on all our sites
sam: (6:59 PM) searchbucks uses goto right
sam: (6:59 PM) lets use goto.com in that
manner
sam: (6:59 PM) we can just put a search box
sam: (6:59 PM) in the webguide..
sam: (7:00 PM) right
Marc: (7:00 PM) let's....searchbucks is
getting at least gorss 7 cents per click avg
profit
sam: (7:00 PM) and put sprinks underneath
sam: (7:00 PM) really..thats not bad
Marc: (7:00 PM) ya...but we should integrate
it in the main content area of the site
[what about this?]
iBLAMEj00 13/02/20 11:09 am The big question is, does searchbucks.com pay?
iBLAMEj00 13/02/20 11:09 am I think it would be much better to go with
sprinks directly.
sam 13/02/20 11:09 am searchbucks uses goto.com not sprinks
sam 13/02/20 11:09 am Marc: (7:06 PM) re: searchbucks ya....and they
make bi-monthly payments which means that they
have cashflow through the program
sam 13/02/20 11:10 am we can probably use goto for searches.. and
sprinks for links
iBLAMEj00 13/02/20 11:10 am Well, we don't want to continue to use go.com
for searches.
sam 13/02/20 11:11 am go is out of biz :)
sam 13/02/20 11:11 am they paid us like 1.5 c entz
iBLAMEj00 13/02/20 11:11 am Yea, that's what I mean.
sam 13/02/20 11:11 am we'll still put them on efront.com or
something so we dont have to pay them their
upfront 50k back
sam 13/02/20 11:11 am but for real traffic on all the rest ofthe
sites use goto.com
iBLAMEj00 13/02/20 11:11 am If sprinks will split it with us, it's
probably higher paying than goto.com.
sam 13/02/20 11:12 am yes.. but im saying use BOTH
iBLAMEj00 13/02/20 11:12 am Cause goto payes less than 50%.
sam 13/02/20 11:12 am yes.. but goto probably has alot more
advertisers
sam 13/02/20 11:12 am and better to spread ur risxzk
sam 13/02/20 11:12 am bad to get stuck w/ one company
sam 13/02/20 11:12 am we all learned our lesson :)
iBLAMEj00 13/02/20 11:12 am Heh, yea, that makes sense.
sam 13/02/20 11:13 am look @ the agreement..addendum.. and
coordinate w/ Will Bryant.. he has the fax #
and stuff
sam 13/02/20 11:13 am pretty simple.. i tried to keep it simple and
easy to understand
iBLAMEj00 13/02/20 11:13 am k
sam 13/02/20 11:14 am hows commissionjunction, etc. comingn along
iBLAMEj00 13/02/20 11:14 am cj.com already canceld my $0.08/click
campaign.
sam 13/02/20 11:14 am really.. why
sam 13/02/20 11:15 am man cant find anything reliable these days
iBLAMEj00 13/02/20 11:15 am They didn't cancel my account, the merchant
just removed my authorization to use them.
sam 13/02/20 11:15 am hehe
sam 13/02/20 11:15 am thats pretty bad:)
iBLAMEj00 13/02/20 11:15 am I don't think I said that right.
sam 13/02/20 11:15 am ya u did.. basically merchant wasnt getting
any results
sam 13/02/20 11:16 am cuz it was trick traffic
iBLAMEj00 13/02/20 11:16 am With CJ, you request for a merchant.
sam 13/02/20 11:16 am so they said ok thats enough :)
iBLAMEj00 13/02/20 11:16 am Right, but the CTR really wasn't that high.
iBLAMEj00 13/02/20 11:16 am The real problem was that they sold software,
and people from my site don't buy software =)
sam 13/02/20 11:16 am heh ya
sam 13/02/20 11:17 am our users suck..they dont buy anytyhing:)
iBLAMEj00 13/02/20 11:17 am Oh, and CJ tracks not only clicks, but also
conversions by account.
iBLAMEj00 13/02/20 11:17 am Besides, ValueClick pays more than 2X CJ's
rate and they don't track conversions =)
sam 13/02/20 11:17 am hows vc going
iBLAMEj00 13/02/20 11:17 am CJ was really just a test.
sam 13/02/20 11:18 am ive gotta think bout a replacement for srunner
now..sux
iBLAMEj00 13/02/20 11:19 am I've got a solid 0.23% CTR with ValueClick :/
sam 13/02/20 11:19 am that all huh?
iBLAMEj00 13/02/20 11:19 am But, that is about 2.5X the CTR that I had
before eFront.
sam 13/02/20 11:20 am so efront increased ur ctr? :)
iBLAMEj00 13/02/20 11:20 am No, because these ads are placed where people
click =)
iBLAMEj00 13/02/20 11:21 am With alternating positions =)
iBLAMEj00 13/02/20 11:21 am *I* even accidently click on the ads a few
times a day =)
sam 13/02/20 11:22 am heh
sam 13/02/20 3:10 pm Alex (ICQ#45445455) Wrote:
Yes. you can check it at
http://hebus.efront.com/nature/gallery.php3?no
=sea/&titre=Vie%20Marine&index=1
Currently we will change all french part, and
it is makes a difference (more clicks) then
the englsig section as well (but it's quite
long to change)...
iBLAMEj00 13/02/20 5:47 pm I don't think the hebus ad is close enough to
the links.
sam 15/02/20 8:27 am http://www.efront.com/gfx/efront4.jpg
launching friay
iBLAMEj00 15/02/20 8:28 am Coolies
sam 15/02/20 8:29 am then we'll start redesigning one site at a
time till we do them all
sam 15/02/20 8:29 am meaning getting them live
sam 15/02/20 8:29 am btw, sprinks wont work in the webguide
sam 15/02/20 8:29 am so w3e'll have a prinks box in the content
section..will work okactually..
iBLAMEj00 15/02/20 8:30 am Why won't it work in the web guide?
sam 15/02/20 8:30 am they said the results were bad and they want
it in the content area of the sites.. im
getting a contract from them tomorrow
iBLAMEj00 15/02/20 8:32 am results were bad?
sam 15/02/20 8:33 am thats what they said.. they said they tried
that
i dont mind.. the clicks willbe better as a
jacket in the content part of the sites
anyways
iBLAMEj00 15/02/20 8:33 am I'm guessing that that site design doesn't
even scale to the size of the browser.
sam 15/02/20 8:33 am it does
sam 15/02/20 8:33 am http://www.efront.com/gfx/index3.shtml
iBLAMEj00 15/02/20 8:34 am Is that the layout you plan to impliment on
all sites?
sam 15/02/20 8:35 am noe
sam 15/02/20 8:35 am ill have that rady to show u shortly
sam 15/02/20 8:36 am dont worry, i'll be modular
sam 15/02/20 8:36 am and we'll do it and make sure it works.. we'll
get ur feedback
iBLAMEj00 15/02/20 8:39 am But shouldn't the main page be the same as the
site pages?
sam 16/02/20 5:37 am hey just thinking about your email for $ for
aah now :)
btw, any progress on the other sites assigned
to u? do u have time? would u prefer to give
it to will bryant and brian? have u contacted
any of those yet?
iBLAMEj00 16/02/20 5:38 am email for $?
sam 16/02/20 5:38 am the propposal for aah
im going through all the sites right now
sam 16/02/20 5:39 am (new contract)
iBLAMEj00 16/02/20 5:39 am I've only talked to megagames and
gamerankings, both are dead ends for me.
sam 16/02/20 5:39 am should i reassign all the ones to u to someone
else
iBLAMEj00 16/02/20 5:39 am They have gone the "don't respond and it will
go away" route.
sam 16/02/20 5:39 am well we're not paying any1 for feb 19 without
new contract.. so pressure will be on them :)
sam 16/02/20 5:40 am babynames is getting antsy.. i had to talk to
her with Will Bryant today
iBLAMEj00 16/02/20 5:40 am I've said that, but still no reply =)
sam 16/02/20 5:40 am she's talking about her lawyers, etc.
sam 16/02/20 5:40 am i told her we'll be holding funds till
disputes are resolved
sam 16/02/20 5:40 am she said she'll get back to us.. lets see what
happens
iBLAMEj00 16/02/20 5:40 am Heh, and it doesn't help that her site is dog
slow also.
sam 16/02/20 5:41 am i dont haveany issue with the interest/etc.
stuff on urs.. let me analyzie it a lil more
and get to u
yeah.. why is her site so slow.. its weird..is
it us or her
iBLAMEj00 16/02/20 5:41 am It's gotta be us.
iBLAMEj00 16/02/20 5:41 am Look at kebie.com also, same thing.
iBLAMEj00 16/02/20 5:42 am I think Nate f-ed something up actually =)
sam 16/02/20 5:42 am it wouldnt suprise me
sam 16/02/20 5:43 am i just msged g3 to ask him whats up
sam 16/02/20 5:43 am i'd rather deal with him than matt or nte :)
iBLAMEj00 16/02/20 5:43 am Yea, G3 seemed to have some reason for it.
iBLAMEj00 16/02/20 5:43 am But he's so non-technical, that he couldn't
explain it.
sam 16/02/20 5:43 am ill tell him to gt it fixed, i dont want a
reason :)
iBLAMEj00 16/02/20 5:43 am Exactly.
iBLAMEj00 16/02/20 5:44 am I don't care who's fault it is, or what's
going on, just get it fixed.
sam 16/02/20 5:44 am thats why its good he's non-tech :)
iBLAMEj00 16/02/20 5:44 am But, it's not like he could contact S4R and
have them fix it.
iBLAMEj00 16/02/20 5:44 am Cause they will say, "You're not Nate nor Matt
so I can't help you".
sam 16/02/20 5:45 am nah .. im sure he can
sam 16/02/20 5:45 am i just got home.. working on backpay calcs,
etc.
sam 16/02/20 5:45 am i have a headache.. im still sick.. r u
iBLAMEj00 16/02/20 5:45 am I'm finally feeling better today.
iBLAMEj00 16/02/20 5:45 am I was like 1/2 dead for 2 days.
sam 16/02/20 5:45 am my teeth hurts.. doesnt help :)
sam 16/02/20 5:46 am i ordered groceris so i can take advil :)
iBLAMEj00 16/02/20 5:46 am Then we had to call 911 for my son in the
middle of the night 2 nights ago.
sam 16/02/20 5:46 am realy.. how come
iBLAMEj00 16/02/20 5:46 am Asthma attack, he could hardly breath.
sam 16/02/20 5:47 am man, that sucks. is there a cure for that
iBLAMEj00 16/02/20 5:47 am He has medicine for it, and there's stuff he
can take when he gets an attack. It doesn't
happen very often and this is the first time
it was real bad.
iBLAMEj00 16/02/20 5:48 am But, my wife is a nurse, so it's not like he
would actually stop breathing from it.
iBLAMEj00 16/02/20 5:50 am Hell, *I* would even trach him.
iBLAMEj00 16/02/20 11:28 am Server was down for 2 hours and no one
noticed.
sam 16/02/20 11:29 am which server
iBLAMEj00 16/02/20 11:29 am Mine, otherwise I wouldn't care =)
sam 16/02/20 11:29 am iBLAMEj00 (ICQ#8906076) Wrote:
Server was down for 2 hours and no one
noticed.
[is s4r monitoring our stuff yet? webmasters
cant call in; s4r refuses their calls. what
do we do]
sam 16/02/20 11:30 am i sent that to jerry, g3, matt.. lets see what
they say
iBLAMEj00 16/02/20 11:31 am I just called S4R and said "I know you can
only take direction from Matt and Nate, but I
figured you would want to know that a server
was down for 2 hours while you were on watch"
=)
sam 16/02/20 11:31 am good :)
iBLAMEj00 16/02/20 11:31 am They just rebooted it also.
sam 16/02/20 11:31 am Chaka (ICQ#48103918) Wrote:
according to Matt s4r does take "sever down"
calls from webmasters...but the server bieng
down w/o notice is not acceptable...will look
into it now.
[why dont you msg chaka about all these
issues.. he's working w/ them]
iBLAMEj00 16/02/20 11:31 am Then I said, "Your my new bitch" ;-)
sam 16/02/20 11:32 am heh
iBLAMEj00 16/02/20 11:38 am And I made my ROM section open, but when
people download, they get a 404 message =)
iBLAMEj00 16/02/20 11:38 am Gotta leave, just wanted you to know that the
servers were still not being monitored.
sam 16/02/20 11:43 am hey dont lose all ur rom traffic :)
iBLAMEj00 16/02/20 9:36 pm I'll just post a message that if anyone wants
to sue over content to send the papers to
sam@efront.com =)
sam 16/02/20 9:58 pm and ill fwd to u :)
iBLAMEj00 16/02/20 9:59 pm Heh
iBLAMEj00 16/02/20 9:59 pm Then I'll put Matt's contact information on
it. Maybe they can find him.
sam 16/02/20 10:00 pm thas fine.. lets put matt in jail.. then we
can get our servers rebooted properly :)
iBLAMEj00 16/02/20 10:00 pm Heh
iBLAMEj00 16/02/20 10:00 pm Matt it is...
sam 17/02/20 12:27 am looks like psxextreme removed our ads too
iBLAMEj00 17/02/20 12:32 am Cool, one less to pay.
sam 19/02/20 9:27 pm hey hows it going
sam 19/02/20 10:39 pm Andye: (6:36 AM) Oh btw you ever heard of a
brand called KING OF SHAVES ? - Its like
Shaving gel !
sam: (6:36 AM) no.. ?
Andye: (6:36 AM) OK, well they are big in the
UK and...
sam: (6:36 AM) are they going to advertise
with us?
Andye: (6:36 AM) The latest issue of FHM (you
know that right ?)
sam: (6:36 AM) no whats that
Andye: (6:37 AM) For Him Magazine... You have
that in the US right !?
sam: (6:37 AM) not sure..probably not
Andye: (6:37 AM) Anyways there is a double
page ad in this months edition here (biggest
mens mag in the UK)
Andye: (6:38 AM) For King of Shaves... about
this guy who owns a hair salon....
Andye: (6:38 AM) And there is a big thing on
the ad saying my favourite web site is: ....
Andye: (6:38 AM) ..... www.arcadeathome.com
iBLAMEj00 19/02/20 11:28 pm No way.
sam 19/02/20 11:29 pm yeah.. i told andy to sell king of shaves
advertsing on aah :)
iBLAMEj00 19/02/20 11:29 pm Heh
iBLAMEj00 19/02/20 11:29 pm That sounds twisted. Now I gotta see that
mag.
iBLAMEj00 19/02/20 11:30 pm I'm in a shaving ad, too weird.
iBLAMEj00 19/02/20 11:31 pm Guess what everyone has been asking me all
weekend?
sam 19/02/20 11:31 pm what?
iBLAMEj00 19/02/20 11:31 pm "How does the 19th look?" =)
iBLAMEj00 19/02/20 11:31 pm I keep telling them that the 19th looks like
Monday still.
sam 19/02/20 11:31 pm sign the new contract and the check will be
sent :) pretty easy
sam 19/02/20 11:31 pm hehe
sam 19/02/20 11:31 pm btw, i was looking @ your stuff
sam 19/02/20 11:31 pm you sure you dont want 3500/month lifetime
hehe
iBLAMEj00 19/02/20 11:32 pm It just about would be lifetime @ $3500 =)
sam 19/02/20 11:32 pm not sure what that means exactly 'lifetime'..
but hey.. anythign that helps cashflow im all
for it :)
sam 19/02/20 11:33 pm you know everyone else, we'lre just reducing
payments arbitararily..take it or leave it..
you should see some of the emails.. at least
we're giving them an option to take the site
back even.. ill fwd u some of the emails its
funny
iBLAMEj00 19/02/20 11:33 pm But, think of how much less it will cost you
with my other revenue streams coming in =)
sam 19/02/20 11:33 pm we can do the interest stuff like u want and
all that no problem.. whatever u want.. just
help on the cash side:)
yeah thats true.
iBLAMEj00 19/02/20 11:33 pm Like I made over $225 in one day last week =)
iBLAMEj00 19/02/20 11:34 pm Now, if they even pay...
sam 19/02/20 11:34 pm whatever you think that works the best .. :)
sam 19/02/20 11:34 pm i just sent you an email :)
iBLAMEj00 19/02/20 11:35 pm 299,198 1,126 0.38%
sam 19/02/20 11:35 pm which network is that..vc?
iBLAMEj00 19/02/20 11:35 pm 1126*$0.19
sam 19/02/20 11:36 pm nice
iBLAMEj00 19/02/20 11:36 pm Yea, they've always paid me.
sam 19/02/20 11:36 pm i wish we could use them all over the network
sam 19/02/20 11:36 pm i could even get 25 cents on an efront deal
sam 19/02/20 11:36 pm with them i think
sam 19/02/20 11:36 pm or 22 cents
iBLAMEj00 19/02/20 11:36 pm Yea, I didn't have to try hard to get .19.
sam 19/02/20 11:36 pm but everyone wont implement like u do.. and
just getting done is the problem
iBLAMEj00 19/02/20 11:37 pm Although, that number is inflated because it
was release day and a weekend.
sam 19/02/20 11:37 pm as long as they dont kick u out.. vc and those
networks are much worse then we are..they kick
u out arbitrarily and there's not much u can
do about it
iBLAMEj00 19/02/20 11:38 pm I know, but I've been with VC for years.
iBLAMEj00 19/02/20 11:38 pm I just looked at my history and it goes back
more than 1000 days.
sam 19/02/20 11:38 pm http://www.internetexecutive.com/bannerSham.as
sam 19/02/20 11:41 pm thats what we have to do.. incorporate the ads
as part of the content
sam 19/02/20 11:41 pm with the new design, i really do not want to
put a stupid banner ad @ the top
sam 19/02/20 11:42 pm got any ideas on how we can integrate the
banner w/ the design?
sam 19/02/20 11:42 pm WITHIN the design i mean
iBLAMEj00 19/02/20 11:43 pm Heh, I'm not even convinced that a "new
design" will even work =)
sam 19/02/20 11:43 pm well, the alternative is to hvae 200
webmasters doing whatever the hell they like
:)
sam 19/02/20 11:43 pm and we dont have resources to man all these
sites
sam 19/02/20 11:43 pm like you do with aah
sam 19/02/20 11:43 pm we need to deploy what you're doing on a
massscale
sam 19/02/20 11:44 pm w/o depending on the webmasters to do so
sam 19/02/20 11:44 pm thats really the bottom line
im open as to how we get there:)
iBLAMEj00 19/02/20 11:45 pm That article is about exactly what I've been
saying.
sam 19/02/20 11:46 pm so how do we get there from here
sam 19/02/20 11:46 pm on a large-scale .. w
sam 19/02/20 11:46 pm the thing is if we put text links / etc. @ the
top spot.. ppl know its banners
sam 19/02/20 11:46 pm just because of placement
sam 19/02/20 11:46 pm we should randomly change the pladcement
iBLAMEj00 19/02/20 11:46 pm I agree that a unified design will get us
there, I'm just not sure how that will be
possible.
sam 19/02/20 11:46 pm im not sure either.. but we have to try :)
iBLAMEj00 19/02/20 11:47 pm Yea, text ads and random placement =)
iBLAMEj00 19/02/20 11:47 pm You should see some of the e-mails I get from
people that are dumbfounded because the
content moves on them =)
iBLAMEj00 19/02/20 11:47 pm Like it's illegal or something.
sam 19/02/20 11:47 pm ha
sam 19/02/20 11:47 pm i know they're stupid
iBLAMEj00 19/02/20 11:48 pm "if you continue to do this, I'm leaving"
hehe
sam 19/02/20 11:48 pm hehe
sam 19/02/20 11:48 pm that is funny!
iBLAMEj00 19/02/20 11:48 pm People that never click, I WANT you to leave.
iBLAMEj00 19/02/20 11:48 pm PLEASE leave I tell them.
sam 19/02/20 11:48 pm you should reply,
"if you see ads in diff. positions on a
magazine, stop buying the magazine"
iBLAMEj00 19/02/20 11:49 pm And take all your leeching friends with you.
iBLAMEj00 19/02/20 11:49 pm Yea, and if you are reading an article in a
magazine, and it starts on page 5 and is
continued on page 95 with 90 pages of ads
between, you should stop buying that magazine
also.
iBLAMEj00 19/02/20 11:50 pm That's how 100% of all magazines work.
iBLAMEj00 19/02/20 11:50 pm They stick the end of the article on pages
with 1/2 ads.
iBLAMEj00 19/02/20 11:51 pm And you have to flip through 90 pages of ads
to get to it.
sam 19/02/20 11:51 pm i know
sam 19/02/20 11:51 pm thats their old trick
sam 19/02/20 11:51 pm we should do that too
iBLAMEj00 19/02/20 11:51 pm Yea, it's REALLY old.
sam 19/02/20 11:51 pm click here to continue
sam 19/02/20 11:51 pm online people are so spioled
iBLAMEj00 19/02/20 11:51 pm Yet, people think the internet is trying to
pull something new on them.
sam 19/02/20 11:51 pm im glad the marketing is correcting
sam 19/02/20 11:51 pm err market is correcting
sam 19/02/20 11:52 pm back to basics.. :)
sam 19/02/20 11:52 pm i cant wait till most websites go out of
business
sam 19/02/20 11:52 pm what they make wont even cover the hosting
charges soon
iBLAMEj00 19/02/20 11:52 pm Yea, I also like the large animated ads that
have the article that wraps around it.
sam 19/02/20 11:52 pm if not already :)
sam 19/02/20 11:52 pm yeah.. like news.com huh
iBLAMEj00 19/02/20 11:52 pm yea
sam 19/02/20 11:52 pm how about this idea for goto.com:
sam 19/02/20 11:53 pm put a module in apache..and randomly highlight
10 words a page
sam 19/02/20 11:53 pm autoamtically
sam 19/02/20 11:53 pm u click on it and up pops a goto.com thingy
sam 19/02/20 11:53 pm branded in the sites own design
sam 19/02/20 11:53 pm would that get mad clicks:)
sam 19/02/20 11:53 pm goto shouldnt have a problem with that
sam 19/02/20 11:53 pm since people are clicking on a link
sam 19/02/20 11:53 pm to get results :)
sam 19/02/20 11:53 pm thats relevant
iBLAMEj00 19/02/20 11:55 pm They probably hate the idea.
iBLAMEj00 19/02/20 11:55 pm I'd bounce it off them before you spend the
time to write the code :/
sam 19/02/20 11:58 pm ture:)
sam 20/02/20 12:14 am Kristy: (8:13 AM)
http://www.porntrack.com/toplists.phtml?KEYCOD
=929928393&ACCOUNT_ID=9831
sam: (8:13 AM) and charge people
Kristy: (8:13 AM) see look at that site
sam: (8:13 AM) like $500 to design each banner
sam: (8:13 AM) ppl would pay
Kristy: (8:14 AM) see like that movie thing
Kristy: (8:14 AM) that looks like a fake movie
;P
sam: (8:14 AM) i know that
Kristy: (8:14 AM) people click on that dumb
stuff
Kristy: (8:14 AM) a lot
sam: (8:14 AM) the only thing that looks like
a banner is the jenny mccarthy stuff
sam: (8:14 AM) and i bet that gets the worst
clickthru
sam 20/02/20 12:15 am thats another example :)
sam 20/02/20 12:15 am im talking to a designer..she's saying thats
misleading ppl :)
sam 20/02/20 12:16 am sam: (8:12 AM) not if its relevant
sam: (8:13 AM) if u can design good banner ads
sam: (8:13 AM) u can charge people like craz
sam: (8:13 AM) the trick is to do it like porn
does it..
sam: (8:13 AM) but without misleading
sam: (8:13 AM) but pushing the envelope
im saying its not if u do it right
iBLAMEj00 20/02/20 12:16 am You can make $500 from doing those acts in
those banners also.
sam 20/02/20 12:18 am or wholesale it and make 500k from ppl
watching it:)
sam 20/02/20 12:18 am but anyways, the porn industry has good
markters
iBLAMEj00 20/02/20 12:18 am Yea, and to save costs, you could star in your
pornos.
iBLAMEj00 20/02/20 12:19 am Well, even the porn market is hurting. I just
read that some porn banner companies are
hurting also.
sam 20/02/20 12:19 am then u dont have to spend $ on dates either
and stuff.. further saving u money
iBLAMEj00 20/02/20 12:19 am Right.
sam 20/02/20 12:19 am yeah im sure they are
iBLAMEj00 20/02/20 12:19 am It's also a sure thing, so less stress.
iBLAMEj00 20/02/20 12:20 am I tried making a porn site that had no porn on
it, just linked to everything.
iBLAMEj00 20/02/20 12:21 am I wanted to see how easy it was. It was
REALLY easy.
sam 20/02/20 12:21 am u can make lot of $$
sam 20/02/20 12:21 am doing that
iBLAMEj00 20/02/20 12:21 am Yea, with fewer visitors.
sam 20/02/20 12:21 am Kristy: (8:19 AM) does the blind links stuff
Kristy: (8:19 AM) we did it on our porn site
Kristy: (8:19 AM) we had 1500 clicks a day on
the banner..
Kristy: (8:19 AM) which was bad
Kristy: (8:19 AM) 30,000 on the blind text
link
Kristy: (8:19 AM) hehe
Kristy: (8:20 AM) that said lot "Gallery 1
Gallery 2"
iBLAMEj00 20/02/20 12:21 am Like 2000 visitors a day was link $500/month.
sam 20/02/20 12:22 am i think they calle that 'blind links'
iBLAMEj00 20/02/20 12:22 am I had no BS like that either.
sam 20/02/20 12:23 am well noone pays for clicking anymore in porn
sam 20/02/20 12:23 am its about signups now:)
iBLAMEj00 20/02/20 12:23 am Yea, that was just signups.
sam 20/02/20 1:26 am what about this.. have like 5 places to
randomly put the banner on load.. have an
apahce module display 2 banners in random
places tbd..
random means that the placement will
change..but where the banners go, we can
define rules..
iBLAMEj00 20/02/20 1:28 am In concept, sure, but in use I can see it
being hard.
iBLAMEj00 20/02/20 1:29 am Most pages are not content like a magazine
where the ad can be placed.
sam 20/02/20 1:30 am you mean articlesh uh
iBLAMEj00 20/02/20 1:30 am Yea.
sam 20/02/20 1:30 am hmm
iBLAMEj00 20/02/20 1:30 am Like I could do random placement on my news
page and on forums and other sections.
iBLAMEj00 20/02/20 1:31 am But I can't see how it would be incorporated
into a total site design.
sam 20/02/20 1:32 am give me an example of a page u couldnt do that
on
iBLAMEj00 20/02/20 1:34 am http://arcadeathome.efront.com/shots3.php?hoga
ley
iBLAMEj00 20/02/20 1:35 am Actually, many pages also because of the way
they are put together, like this:
http://arcadeathome.efront.com/shots.phtml
sam 20/02/20 1:35 am sometimes under the view @
sometimes under above the caption of the pic
sometimes above to 'back to referring' page
conceptually would that work
sam 20/02/20 1:38 am sam: (9:38 AM) is it possible for realmedia to
serve 4 banners a day
sam: (9:38 AM) but make 2 of them 1x1 gifs
sam: (9:38 AM) randomly
sam: (9:38 AM) as a quick solution?
iBLAMEj00 20/02/20 1:47 am I think a better solution would be for a
random number generated and then only one
realmedia hit is requred..
sam 20/02/20 1:47 am thts true.. a script on the website end huh
sam 20/02/20 1:49 am ill talk to roy see if he can get this going
iBLAMEj00 20/02/20 1:49 am We could do it fairly easily for the bottom
banner placement, but the top banner would be
a problem.
sam 20/02/20 1:50 am we'd have to get rid of width=468
sam 20/02/20 1:50 am and make it all variable width
sam 20/02/20 1:50 am so it could shrink down to zero
sam 20/02/20 1:50 am er 1x1
iBLAMEj00 20/02/20 1:50 am You can't do that.
iBLAMEj00 20/02/20 1:50 am Because then pages take too long to load.
sam 20/02/20 1:50 am well better than low clicks:) hmm...
iBLAMEj00 20/02/20 1:51 am Also, you can't do it for the top banner
because then everyone would have to redesign
the pages.
sam 20/02/20 1:51 am iframe requires variablewidth huh?
sam 20/02/20 1:51 am well the top banner wont show anything
iBLAMEj00 20/02/20 1:51 am iframe requires a fixed witdth/height.
iBLAMEj00 20/02/20 1:51 am Well, you can't just have a blank spot there.
sam 20/02/20 1:52 am hehe why not :)
iBLAMEj00 20/02/20 1:52 am We also have to worry about above the fold
placement.
iBLAMEj00 20/02/20 1:52 am Cause I wouldn't just leave a blank 80 pixel
box at the top of my page.
iBLAMEj00 20/02/20 1:53 am I'd put another ad there or redesign the site.
sam 20/02/20 1:53 am how do u mean fold placement
sam 20/02/20 1:53 am yeah i understand about the redesign.. though
iBLAMEj00 20/02/20 1:53 am If we have any CPM deals where they need to be
above the fold.
sam 20/02/20 1:54 am nah.. none
sam 20/02/20 1:54 am besides, one of the banners will be above the
fold anyways most likely
sam 20/02/20 1:54 am i dunno.. just thinking of solutions :)
sam 20/02/20 1:55 am im doing it so that g3 deploys to the
webmaseters.. and trying to get jonathan to
get access to a central server wehre the ad
tags get pulle d from and inserted into a
site..that way we can experiment on a large
scale
iBLAMEj00 20/02/20 1:57 am Heh, you can't just insert ads on the server
side unless it's at the top, bottom, or
floating.
sam 20/02/20 1:59 am so many limitations :)
iBLAMEj00 20/02/20 2:00 am Heh, well, if you just start inserting ads,
you'll mess up the layout of the sites.
sam 20/02/20 2:02 am so the new layout should have a design so that
the top banner can go away seamlessely :)
sam 20/02/20 2:03 am actually one of the new layouts worked.. it
had a 468 by itself under the top logo.. that
could be shrunk to nothing on the fly on each
pageload:)
sam 20/02/20 2:03 am hmmmmm
sam 20/02/20 2:04 am maybe this would work
efront sitename ________________ help
[468 banner]
tabbed navigation-----------------------------
[468x60]
[600wide column][200wide column]
[468x60]
iBLAMEj00 20/02/20 2:05 am Stop thinking of shrinking the ads to nothing,
they won't even exist.
sam 20/02/20 2:05 am that means that 468s's could be interchanged
in alot of places
sam 20/02/20 2:05 am how do u mean
iBLAMEj00 20/02/20 2:05 am It picks a random number and only one ad is
displayed.
sam 20/02/20 2:05 am okay.. same thing
iBLAMEj00 20/02/20 2:05 am there's no html in the other ad locations.
sam 20/02/20 2:05 am just my terminology :)
iBLAMEj00 20/02/20 2:06 am Well, someone will think you mean to overload
our overloaded ad servers by 4 times.
sam 20/02/20 2:06 am nah
sam 20/02/20 2:06 am anyway what do you think of that
sam 20/02/20 2:06 am design layout:)
sam 20/02/20 2:07 am for banner placements
iBLAMEj00 20/02/20 2:07 am Only one little problem, trying to get a
unified site design.
iBLAMEj00 20/02/20 2:07 am And trying to incorporate the content of each
site and each page.
sam 20/02/20 2:08 am i know how we'll do that:)
sam 20/02/20 2:08 am i have 4 people ready
sam 20/02/20 2:08 am to do the redesigns
sam 20/02/20 2:08 am we're going in ourselves and do the designs
iBLAMEj00 20/02/20 2:08 am Heh
sam 20/02/20 2:08 am and tell the webmasters here u go..deal with
it
sam 20/02/20 2:08 am Rich from SA is going to be an employee too..
he'll be working for g3
sam 20/02/20 2:08 am doing html :)
iBLAMEj00 20/02/20 2:08 am In concept, it sounds easy, buy wait.
sam 20/02/20 2:09 am i know
sam 20/02/20 2:09 am hehe
sam 20/02/20 2:09 am well we'll need ur help :)
sam 20/02/20 2:09 am does aah want to be a guinea pig site:)
iBLAMEj00 20/02/20 2:09 am Like my front page loads maybe 20 pages.
sam 20/02/20 2:09 am well i would say 90% of the sites are easy
iBLAMEj00 20/02/20 2:09 am And each page has at least one script.
sam 20/02/20 2:10 am 10% are complicated..the complicated ones..
we'lll hae to get the webmasters to coopreate
nodoubt
sam 20/02/20 2:10 am but most of the sites are eay
sam 20/02/20 2:10 am html
iBLAMEj00 20/02/20 2:10 am Maybe, I can't imagine sites as just html.
sam 20/02/20 2:12 am well deployment is deployment..we'll have to
figure it out
how about the concept above.. owuld that work?
or better to have 3 columsn in the body
only problem is .. the placement for the 468
ads is very limited
[150][500][150]
sam 20/02/20 2:12 am orrr..
[150][600]
sam 20/02/20 2:12 am err.. [200][600]
sam 20/02/20 2:13 am that might be the best huh? that way we can
put ads in the navigation area:)
iBLAMEj00 20/02/20 2:13 am Heh
sam 20/02/20 2:13 am like text links ads.. integrate that with
navigation
sam 20/02/20 2:13 am and the site navigation could be tabbed on the
top
sam 20/02/20 2:13 am i know u must think all this is stupid:)
sam 20/02/20 2:13 am hehe
iBLAMEj00 20/02/20 2:14 am [150][500][150] would never work.
sam 20/02/20 2:14 am esp. if you're thinking of how it could apply
to aah
sam 20/02/20 2:14 am yeah i know 150x500x150 is dumb on second
though
iBLAMEj00 20/02/20 2:14 am What good is a unifiied layout and rotating
ads if no one visits?
sam 20/02/20 2:15 am yeah..you really thinkwe'd lose all our
traffic if we do unified layout w/ rotating
ads??
iBLAMEj00 20/02/20 2:17 am No, buy only having 500 pixes will prohibit
content.
sam 20/02/20 2:17 am oh ya ..
so [200][600]..any problems there?
iBLAMEj00 20/02/20 2:18 am Yea
iBLAMEj00 20/02/20 2:18 am Needs to be more like [infinity][150]
sam 20/02/20 2:18 am yeah yeah
iBLAMEj00 20/02/20 2:18 am Even then, I would be losing content.
sam 20/02/20 2:18 am but be real :)
sam 20/02/20 2:18 am look at ur own site
its 150][500][150 now already
sam 20/02/20 2:19 am and you're traffic is increasing
iBLAMEj00 20/02/20 2:19 am Okay, [1450][150]
sam 20/02/20 2:19 am through the roof
sam 20/02/20 2:19 am give me a break :)
iBLAMEj00 20/02/20 2:19 am No, it's [115][infinity][150]
iBLAMEj00 20/02/20 2:20 am You don't want your ads on the left either,
right-hand ads get noticed more and clicked
more.
iBLAMEj00 20/02/20 2:20 am But only if they are all the way to the right,
against the slider.
sam 20/02/20 2:20 am how do u know
iBLAMEj00 20/02/20 2:20 am That's why you need to have the page variable
in size.
sam 20/02/20 2:21 am how do u know ads on the right get clicked
more
iBLAMEj00 20/02/20 2:21 am Cause it's a known fact that right-hand ads
get better clicks, because people more their
mouse over there to slide the page.
sam 20/02/20 2:21 am um..sure
sam 20/02/20 2:21 am the webguide gets bad clickthrus :)
iBLAMEj00 20/02/20 2:21 am It's back to the issue where you should place
ads where people have their mouse pointer.
iBLAMEj00 20/02/20 2:22 am That's for other reasons.
sam 20/02/20 2:22 am arent people used to looking at the left for
navigations
iBLAMEj00 20/02/20 2:22 am 1) poor site design that doesn't use the full
screen.
2) poor image sizes
3) too add-like
etc.
iBLAMEj00 20/02/20 2:22 am But only if the navigation is on the left.
iBLAMEj00 20/02/20 2:23 am If you move the navigation to the top, people
won't look to the left anymore.
iBLAMEj00 20/02/20 2:23 am And their pointer will never even come close
to the ads, even to scroll.
sam 20/02/20 2:23 am besides, im not sure what we'll put in the
[150] anyways
sam 20/02/20 2:23 am ideally, i'd like to have it so that the
entire thing is content
sam 20/02/20 2:23 am and have ad boxes
sam 20/02/20 2:23 am that dont look like ads
sam 20/02/20 2:24 am interspersed
sam 20/02/20 2:24 am like on ur site, if the navigatino was on top
iBLAMEj00 20/02/20 2:24 am Right
sam 20/02/20 2:24 am and we killed the webguide
sam 20/02/20 2:24 am you have infiniit :)
sam 20/02/20 2:24 am okay lets do that then
sam 20/02/20 2:24 am you just have 10 ad creatives to be put
sam 20/02/20 2:24 am with your content :)
sam 20/02/20 2:24 am that matches the look and feel of the content
:)
iBLAMEj00 20/02/20 2:24 am Also notice how my web guide looks like it's
part of the site. If the colors could be
changed and it wouldn't look so ad-ish, the
click-thru rates would be higher.
sam 20/02/20 2:25 am yeah.. even then its not great clicks
there are 100% of clicks on a site.. where
does that go?
do u have any stats
sam 20/02/20 2:25 am i'd like to find out what % click back, exit
the browser, or a ltext link , or a graphical
image
sam 20/02/20 2:25 am whether its ad or content
sam 20/02/20 2:25 am do u have any breakdown :)
iBLAMEj00 20/02/20 2:26 am Not like that.
sam 20/02/20 2:26 am that would be itnerseting to find out, no?
sam 20/02/20 2:26 am like where the exits are
iBLAMEj00 20/02/20 2:26 am And impossible to track.
sam 20/02/20 2:26 am oh cmon.. im sure u can do it.. u can do
anythig:)
sam 20/02/20 2:26 am even as a test :)
iBLAMEj00 20/02/20 2:27 am You can't track browser clicks.
iBLAMEj00 20/02/20 2:27 am Like back, etc.
sam 20/02/20 2:27 am um exitfuel does it
sam 20/02/20 2:27 am use that onload stuf
sam 20/02/20 2:27 am to track
sam 20/02/20 2:27 am instead of popping up
iBLAMEj00 20/02/20 2:28 am You would have to re-do every link on every
page.
sam 20/02/20 2:28 am you know, the only problem with infiniti
content is
sam 20/02/20 2:28 am stupid webmaseters
iBLAMEj00 20/02/20 2:28 am If you just want to know where people leave,
the best way would be through log files. but
that still doesn't help you.
sam 20/02/20 2:28 am they will put all the ads at the very very
botto
sam 20/02/20 2:29 am not every1 is like you
sam 20/02/20 2:29 am we have to give them strict guidelines
sam 20/02/20 2:29 am and stuff
iBLAMEj00 20/02/20 2:29 am That's what your html dogs would be for =)
sam 20/02/20 2:29 am ohh.. have our html dogs go in each site and
put stuff?
sam 20/02/20 2:29 am yeah we should do that
sam 20/02/20 2:29 am its about time we stop messing around with
webmasters
sam 20/02/20 2:32 am we should have g3 to the organizing, planning,
etc. and have Rich & Kevin B. be the html
dogs :)
iBLAMEj00 20/02/20 2:33 am Heh, it would be fun to just watch it =)
sam 20/02/20 2:34 am well that's what Rich is best at doing.. being
entertaining :)
sam 20/02/20 2:46 am imchanging the contracts on some of the
chinese sites.. from like 40 cent cpm on
pageviews to 75 cent cpm on uniques
is that good for us
sam 20/02/20 2:47 am i mean is that affordable.. .that means a site
with 100k uniques a day gets 2500 bucks
maybe thats too much even :)
sam 20/02/20 2:48 am hm maybe i should do 50 cent cpm on uniques
iBLAMEj00 20/02/20 2:48 am For cheating chinese sites, sure =)
sam 20/02/20 2:48 am well we wont pay cheaters one dime :)
iBLAMEj00 20/02/20 2:49 am shit!
iBLAMEj00 20/02/20 2:49 am heh
sam 20/02/20 2:49 am heh
sam 20/02/20 2:50 am did you see themeheaven.. man all he does is
promote galttech and he wants to do a pr
sam 20/02/20 2:50 am go for it..and dont let the door hit u in the
ass:)
iBLAMEj00 20/02/20 2:53 am galttech?
sam 20/02/20 2:53 am yeah.. he still has a galttech.com popup if u
go to themeheaven.com right now
iBLAMEj00 20/02/20 2:54 am I bet he owns that also.
sam 20/02/20 2:54 am he wants to issue a pr on us :) hehe like i
care
iBLAMEj00 20/02/20 2:54 am a pr, as in?
sam 20/02/20 2:55 am i fwd: you his email :)
sam 20/02/20 6:45 am http://www.business.com/affiliates/index.asp
sam 20/02/20 6:45 am signup aah for efront and put search boxes in
prominent locatinos with pre-filled headers..
i bet u can get 5,000 searches a day :)
sam 20/02/20 6:46 am thats 15k :)
iBLAMEj00 20/02/20 6:49 am I signed up.
sam 20/02/20 6:50 am sam: (2:50 PM) one could possibily make 5,000
a day by having ONE page that has links and
searches to all the business resources and
directs them to business.com and pops it up
everywhere for cheap :)
iBLAMEj00 20/02/20 6:51 am In a related note, ValueClick says they are
paying me $600+ for the first 15 days of this
month.
sam 20/02/20 6:52 am not bad
sam 20/02/20 6:53 am one could possibily make 5,000 a day by having
ONE page that has links and searches to all
the business resources and directs them to
business.com
and have that our 404 page
"didnt find the website you were looking for?
try.,
Search: [ ] to find
your website
iBLAMEj00 20/02/20 6:54 am The first 15 days I was still ramping up the
ValueClick thing, so it wasn't going full-out
yet. Like there's already more revenue from
the 16th through today than there was for the
first 15 days.
iBLAMEj00 20/02/20 6:55 am How about payments of $5,500/month, with the
same load payment terms.
sam 20/02/20 6:55 am can you calculate what we'd make if you do the
valueclick thing across efront?
iBLAMEj00 20/02/20 6:55 am And anything I make on the side I'll report
and you can pay me that much less.
iBLAMEj00 20/02/20 6:56 am It's hard to calculate because they are not
serving banners 100% of the time. I rotate in
my own ad for the Trivia Game.
iBLAMEj00 20/02/20 6:56 am Sorry, meaning that they don't have 100% of
ads sold.
iBLAMEj00 20/02/20 6:57 am I just have the ValueClick banners on 3 of my
pages.
iBLAMEj00 20/02/20 6:57 am But those are popular download pages.
sam 20/02/20 6:57 am thats probably doable.. im trying to keep
accounting easy (its a nightmare right now..
like 100 different payment plans, schedule,
etc. ) and im outsourcing our accounting to
ledgent.com.. i think the 5500 will work out
to $3cpmU based on your uniques.. so can we
back-fit it into the cpmU to make accounting
easier
sam 20/02/20 6:58 am does that mean we should get like 100
accounts, one for each website, so each
account has its own pool..and defaults
redirect back to us anyways
iBLAMEj00 20/02/20 6:58 am they have a crappy system for default banners.
sam 20/02/20 6:58 am i wish you ahdnt taught scott from GR how to
increase his traffic:) his payment is alot
now.. his traffic went up like 10X hehe :)
iBLAMEj00 20/02/20 6:59 am If they are not serving a paid ad, you can
display your own, but it can only be an image
and link, you may not be able to use any kind
of system with it.
iBLAMEj00 20/02/20 6:59 am Heh
sam 20/02/20 6:59 am cant you use non-rich media tags for that
sam 20/02/20 6:59 am jonathan might know
sam 20/02/20 6:59 am or we can run our defaults through that even
iBLAMEj00 20/02/20 6:59 am If I would have known then what I know now.
iBLAMEj00 20/02/20 7:00 am Well, I can only run ONE ad, period.
iBLAMEj00 20/02/20 7:00 am The link comes from their server, so it may be
hard to do anything with it.
sam 20/02/20 7:00 am did you try tricking it by tiving it an img
src that goes to a script on ur serer:)
sam 20/02/20 7:00 am aha ok
iBLAMEj00 20/02/20 7:01 am I could get the ad image to rotate, becuase I
still serve that. But the click-through would
be the hard part.
sam 20/02/20 7:01 am ill ask our sales guys tomorrow what they can
do for vc
sam 20/02/20 7:01 am ill try to get a 20cent+ cpc deal..
iBLAMEj00 20/02/20 7:01 am I guess it may be able to record IPs and what
banners were served, maybe it would work, but
not sure.
iBLAMEj00 20/02/20 7:03 am As far as payments go, it's easier to just say
$5,500/month rather than figuring out what the
uniques are each month =)
iBLAMEj00 20/02/20 7:03 am As far as the duration, it's till the full
amount is paid.
sam 20/02/20 7:04 am heh but they have a spreadsheet and
ledgent.com will just pay the paybles and we
wouldnt need to make exceptions or anything..
your traffic is going up anyways not down..so
shouldnt matter, right :)
iBLAMEj00 20/02/20 7:04 am Yea, and that's why we got into trouble two
different times now =)
iBLAMEj00 20/02/20 7:05 am Traffic goes up, payment goes up, and it's too
much to pay.
sam 20/02/20 7:06 am if you really think about it, most of the
contracts are really consulting
agreements..not really asset purchase.. aah
without you would probably be nothing.. so
sure you can say the full amount and all
that.. but im sure you'll agree w/o you aah
isnt worth 440k :)
its like recruiting a new employee by saying
they're getting a salary of 400k
over 4 years or whatever:)
sam 20/02/20 7:07 am so basically its a lifetime deal :) since it
is lifetime, u dont wanna go with ur 3500 till
its paid off thing or lifetime? :)
iBLAMEj00 20/02/20 7:08 am But no asset purchase, no tax break.
sam 20/02/20 7:08 am we can do the flat though.. i think that
shouldnt be too complicated.. 2 kinds of
contracts then, flat , or cpmU :)
heh.. so you should give me a break for giving
you a tax break,..
cuz this is really income .. shh :)
sam 20/02/20 7:09 am maybe more webmasters should take advantage of
it huh? ill msg Will Bryant and Brian and tell
them
iBLAMEj00 20/02/20 7:09 am I think most webmasters are idiots though
sam 20/02/20 7:10 am yeah i know.. how much will it save ppl on the
average?
sam 20/02/20 7:10 am so i can tell Will & Brian to tell ppl :)
iBLAMEj00 20/02/20 7:10 am My accountant flat out wont even talk to me
unless it's a loan for the purchase of an
asset.
sam 20/02/20 7:10 am we actually do book it like that here.. i
asked Bill Schmidt about that last week
iBLAMEj00 20/02/20 7:11 am Well, it's long term capital gains instead of
regular income, so it depends on your tax
level.
sam 20/02/20 7:11 am and he said you could even have a diff
interest rate or wahtever then we use..doesnt
really mantter
sam 20/02/20 7:11 am but generally speaking.. lets say someone
makes 40k/year
sam 20/02/20 7:11 am from asset purchase
iBLAMEj00 20/02/20 7:12 am Lets say they are in the 28% tax bracket, they
also have to pay SS and unemployement also on
it if it's regular income.
sam 20/02/20 7:12 am also, you should probably let the webmasters
know that they can get a tax break because
this is asset purcahse, not ordinary income.
that will save them $$ on taxes too
this is a long-term capigal gains.. it will
make their taxes better by as much as 50%
(depending on their tax levels)
[is this accurate]
iBLAMEj00 20/02/20 7:12 am Right.
sam 20/02/20 7:13 am so a person making 50k/year from us vs ad
networks can expect to save in taxes:
ad networks: ss + income + state+ unemployment
= 25k in taxes
with us, probably 7500/year
iBLAMEj00 20/02/20 7:14 am So if they were getting $3k/month before, and
taxed at 28% plus another 10% for SS and
unemployement, that would be like $13,700 in
taxes in a year.
iBLAMEj00 20/02/20 7:14 am It's kind of messed up because the principal
is a capital gain, but the interest is regular
income.
iBLAMEj00 20/02/20 7:15 am So at first there's less of an advantage, but
over time it gets better.
iBLAMEj00 20/02/20 7:20 am So, before I was getting $13k/month, do
$5500/month for me (I'm taking a $90k/year pay
cut with this). This will be less because of
whatever I make on the side I'll report.
iBLAMEj00 20/02/20 7:21 am I've gotta figure out how I would do that with
taxes, maybe I'll have to change the tax id
number to eFront's so I don't get a 1099-misc
from them.
sam 20/02/20 7:22 am okay
oh u mean vc, etc. yeah
sam 20/02/20 7:22 am Marc (ICQ#9774338) Wrote:
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John J. Perlin
Business Development
ValueClick, Inc.
818-575-4601
perlin@valueclick.com
-----Original Message-----
From: Marc DSouza [mailto:marcd@efront.com]
Sent: Tuesday, December 19, 2000 3:55 PM
To: perlin@valueclick.com
Subject: urls
John,
The tag was set live on our network and we
were in the process of optimiziation. It is
disturbing to note that clicks were coming
from "porno sites". Please forward me the urls
of the offending sites. I'd like to check it
out. eFront has a strict policy against
pornography, so i'd definately like to see
some of the logs.
I appreciate your cooperation in this regard.
Marc
sam 20/02/20 7:22 am did you read that
sam 20/02/20 7:22 am they think celebs.cz is porno
and emux.com is warez
iBLAMEj00 20/02/20 7:22 am Yea, if the feds get a 1099-misc from them and
I don't report it, there's a 100% chance of
getting audited.
iBLAMEj00 20/02/20 7:24 am It kinda does look pornish =)
sam 20/02/20 7:24 am okay on 5500
but you still dont want to do it 3 years then?
thats what we're doing for everyone else..
basically nothing changes but their payments
shrink 70% in most of the cases becasue of the
cpmU :)
sam 20/02/20 7:24 am it does look pornish..but its not :)
sam 20/02/20 7:25 am too bad we didnt start efront a year earlier
sam 20/02/20 7:25 am sucks :)
iBLAMEj00 20/02/20 7:26 am 3 years from when?
sam 20/02/20 7:26 am i mean the regular terms.. we had extended it
to 3 years like all the websites (in the past)
iBLAMEj00 20/02/20 7:27 am It will be as short or as long as you want it
to be.
sam 20/02/20 7:27 am 100years? :)
iBLAMEj00 20/02/20 7:27 am If you can pay off the principal next month,
the term is 1 month =)
sam 20/02/20 7:28 am oh yeah.. you're doing it both ways.. paying
pricipal + interest right
iBLAMEj00 20/02/20 7:28 am Well, if the payment stays at $5,500/month, it
lasts till I'm like 40 or something =)
sam 20/02/20 7:28 am well you know the pricipal is just an
arbitrary value for the website you know :)
iBLAMEj00 20/02/20 7:29 am Yea, it's the arbitrary number in the current
contract =)
sam 20/02/20 7:30 am but you agree its arbitrary right :) meaning
it doesnt really mean anything or denote that
the website is worth 440k :)
iBLAMEj00 20/02/20 7:30 am Actually, it's less than the number in the
contract once you factor in the interest rate.
sam 20/02/20 7:30 am like for example, a buyer comes tomorrow, and
says tim ill give you 100k for the website
sam 20/02/20 7:30 am cash right here and now
sam 20/02/20 7:30 am would you sell it :)
iBLAMEj00 20/02/20 7:30 am Well, you only own $310,900.99 on it as of
this month =)
iBLAMEj00 20/02/20 7:31 am own=owe
sam 20/02/20 7:31 am i know.. but regardless, it is arbitrary isnt'
it:) for example, would you sell it for 100k
:)
iBLAMEj00 20/02/20 7:31 am I could always settle for less in a lumb sum
=)
iBLAMEj00 20/02/20 7:32 am heh, lumb=lump, my fingers are drunk.
sam 20/02/20 7:32 am or even 50k :).. all u have to do is rebuild
it again right :)
sam 20/02/20 7:32 am so how much is that 50k or 100k worth if its
paid over 2 days.. or 3 days.. or you get my
point.. :)
iBLAMEj00 20/02/20 7:33 am Well, if it would purchased, I couldn't
rebuild it till after the waiting period
anyway, so it probably wouldn't happen.
sam 20/02/20 7:33 am right..so there would be an extra sum
associated if there was a waiting period :)
iBLAMEj00 20/02/20 7:33 am Heh, there would always be a period of time
where you couldn't compete.
iBLAMEj00 20/02/20 7:34 am At least 6 months.
iBLAMEj00 20/02/20 7:34 am To be classified as a purchase, there has to
be a purchase price.
sam 20/02/20 7:34 am not necessarily.. doesnt have to be.. :) lets
say the buyer said, no problem tim.. create
another one.. there's alot more of them on the
web anyways.. so that just builds the industry
bigger and more rom users to go around:)
iBLAMEj00 20/02/20 7:34 am Otherwise, you can't figure the interest on
it.
sam 20/02/20 7:35 am yeah i know.. im just saying the purchase
price right now is arbitrary
iBLAMEj00 20/02/20 7:35 am Maybe in your mind it is =)
sam 20/02/20 7:36 am but you just agreed with me heh :)
sam 20/02/20 7:36 am it was a trap hehe
sam 20/02/20 7:36 am thats a good technique we should use on the
other webmsters:)
sam 20/02/20 7:37 am like offer scott 50k lump sum cash for
gamerankings.. and then say okay, well charge
us 10% interest rate and we'll pay you over
time :)
sam 20/02/20 7:38 am also i know you needed interest rate stuff,
etc.
on the corporate side, we dont list any of
this as a liability
sam 20/02/20 7:38 am but its all an earnout because its based on
performance
sam 20/02/20 7:38 am so we are debt free:)
sam 20/02/20 7:38 am good for investros.. they dont wanna see a
huge liability on the balance sheet
iBLAMEj00 20/02/20 7:39 am Yea, lets just not get audited together =)
sam 20/02/20 7:39 am nah, not for tax purposes :) more for
investors.. and getting loans/bank financing/
a/r finacning, etc
sam 20/02/20 7:40 am bryant: (3:40 PM) What terms did you all agree
upon with Harsha?
bryant: (3:40 PM) I know you and Tim were
working on him, don't know where it was left.
[can you give Will an update with megagames,
tim :]
iBLAMEj00 20/02/20 7:40 am Okay, so cut me a check for $5,500 before my
wife flys out there and bitchslaps j00.
iBLAMEj00 20/02/20 7:40 am Heh, harsha.
sam 20/02/20 7:41 am heh,..,well i suppose you do need a reason for
spending all this time on the computer
everyday :)
iBLAMEj00 20/02/20 7:41 am The last time we talked I said that if he
wants to play hardball, I'll need all his
payment from exitfuel and bottomdollar since
going with eFront =)
sam 20/02/20 7:41 am how about payment terms how far were u able to
work him down
iBLAMEj00 20/02/20 7:42 am Right, I need a damn good excuse to play on
the computer all day.
iBLAMEj00 20/02/20 7:42 am If the lady doesn't get a check, I'll have to
spend time with her.
sam 20/02/20 7:42 am 'honey we make 5500 a month.. i got a business
to run.. ' :)
iBLAMEj00 20/02/20 7:42 am Right.
sam 20/02/20 7:42 am heh yeah i know how it goes
iBLAMEj00 20/02/20 7:43 am He keeps demanding $30k/month, that he needs
that much.
sam 20/02/20 7:43 am did he go any l;ower?
iBLAMEj00 20/02/20 7:43 am Well, he kinda agreed to $10k/month and he
gets the banner ads.
iBLAMEj00 20/02/20 7:44 am But he couldn't accept not getting paid for
back months.
iBLAMEj00 20/02/20 7:44 am And then he mumbled something about having to
sell his Lexus.
sam 20/02/20 8:05 am http://celebs4all.efront.com/celebs.shtml
this is how the
[650][150] design would look
iBLAMEj00 20/02/20 8:07 am But if it doesn't scale to the size of the
window, it looks stupid.
sam 20/02/20 8:07 am besides that part obviusly
iBLAMEj00 20/02/20 8:07 am Run at 1280x1024 and see how silly that looks,
run at 1600x1200 and it looks even worse.
iBLAMEj00 20/02/20 8:08 am That's why I'm saying [infinity][150]
sam 20/02/20 8:08 am ya i get u
sam 20/02/20 8:08 am i thought u really wanted [infiniity] :)
iBLAMEj00 20/02/20 8:08 am Heh
iBLAMEj00 20/02/20 8:09 am Sites that don't scale to the size of the
window are done that way because the designers
are lazy, and it hurts click-thrus and
visitors.
iBLAMEj00 20/02/20 9:56 am You know, the Web Guide is stuck on Game
Rankings' XBox giveaway.
sam 21/02/20 10:45 am http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/business/20
10220-9999_1b20store.html
sam 21/02/20 10:46 am another one bites the dust :)
iBLAMEj00 21/02/20 12:10 pm That's why we need to develop plans from the
top down instead of the bottom up, so we can
switch them quickly as needed.
iBLAMEj00 21/02/20 12:13 pm Heh, this is the mouse pad that I should get
eFront employees:
http://fuckedcompany.com/merch/big/mousepad2.j
g
sam 21/02/20 12:29 pm today was pretty good.. lowtax signed 2cpm on
total uniques contract
sam 21/02/20 12:29 pm and i signed about contract.. just faxed it
sam 21/02/20 12:30 pm and so we'll have sprinks and lot of rev
opptys lined up even with career stuff
sam 21/02/20 12:30 pm we just gotta herd the damned webmasters
together now
sam 21/02/20 12:30 pm :)
iBLAMEj00 21/02/20 12:30 pm 50 cents on the dollar contracts are good when
you have business deals with companies in
chapter 11.
sam 21/02/20 12:30 pm how do u mean
iBLAMEj00 21/02/20 12:31 pm Meaning that we would be lucky to get 10 cents
on the dollar with storerunner now.
sam 21/02/20 12:31 pm i know..
sam 21/02/20 12:31 pm im going to san fran tomroww..trying to meet
mysimon also to get another ecommerce deal
iBLAMEj00 21/02/20 12:32 pm Yea, maybe we can drain some money from them
=)
sam 21/02/20 12:32 pm john gaffney is gone too (he called us today
as a courtsey call)
sam 21/02/20 12:32 pm all our fucking clients are going out of biz
:/
iBLAMEj00 21/02/20 12:32 pm john gaffney?
sam 21/02/20 12:32 pm the guy we talked to
sam 21/02/20 12:32 pm at srunner
sam 21/02/20 12:32 pm during the conf call
iBLAMEj00 21/02/20 12:32 pm Oh.
sam 21/02/20 12:32 pm smartage owes us like 75k..and they called us
last week offering 10 cents on the dollar..ha
iBLAMEj00 21/02/20 12:32 pm Maybe that's why Adam hasn't replied to my
last e-mail =)
sam 21/02/20 12:33 pm hehe im sure thats why :)
sam 21/02/20 1:56 pm http://www.thestreet.com/_yahoo/tech/internet/
310089.html
bye bye banner..
sam 21/02/20 1:57 pm "its not intrusive enough" :)
iBLAMEj00 21/02/20 1:58 pm "It's not big enough," says John Skipper,
general manager of Disney Internet Group's
(DIG:NYSE - news) ESPN Internet Group, about
the banner. "It's not targetable enough. It's
not intrusive enough." Disney has started
selling a narrower, taller ad it calls the Big
Impression.
iBLAMEj00 21/02/20 1:58 pm I love that line "it's not intrusive enough"
sam 21/02/20 1:59 pm i figured u would :)
iBLAMEj00 21/02/20 1:59 pm I haven't seen this efront site before:
http://www.celebfoto.com/babes/
iBLAMEj00 21/02/20 2:01 pm For some twisted reason, I like this picture a
lot:
http://www.celebfoto.com/babes/AmberValetta.ph
ml?3
sam 21/02/20 2:02 pm Instead, participants in the online
advertising business indicate several
directions in which online advertising can
move to provide more value to -- that is, make
more money from -- advertisers. One of these
is advertising technology, something distinct
from the height-and-width dimensions of
advertising units, says Stacy Smollin,
director of DoubleClick's (DCLK
:Nasdaq - news
) Global Studio creative consultation
unit. But it's not enough to have neat
technology, she says; it has to be cool
technology that's broadly accepted.
sam 21/02/20 2:02 pm maybe thats our new technolgy.. the changing
position of ads :)
sam 21/02/20 2:02 pm i am getting that in place :)
iBLAMEj00 21/02/20 2:03 pm Ads that move rock j00!
iBLAMEj00 21/02/20 2:03 pm Hmmm, that celeb site has ads that move
also....
sam 21/02/20 2:04 pm maybe this can be our technology.. ad units
that move on each load?
efront sitename
[ad unit w/ random # that may or may not
appear]
tabtabtabtabnav
ad units that move
iBLAMEj00 21/02/20 2:05 pm "it has to be cool technology that's broadly
accepted."
sam 21/02/20 2:05 pm well we have broad reach
sam 21/02/20 2:05 pm so we can accept it:)
iBLAMEj00 21/02/20 2:05 pm Not sure if ads that move would be considered
"broadly accepted"
sam 21/02/20 2:05 pm well if its effective, it will get accepted
iBLAMEj00 21/02/20 2:05 pm It's really just dymanic page content, an old
concept.
sam 21/02/20 2:05 pm yeah i know.. but integrated with an ad
serving solution
iBLAMEj00 21/02/20 2:06 pm I think it would be more accepted to see one
ad in 3 random places rather than 3 ads.
iBLAMEj00 21/02/20 2:06 pm I can accept that =)
sam 21/02/20 2:06 pm i agree
sam 21/02/20 2:07 pm we might have to do just one 468 ad
sam 21/02/20 2:07 pm and other creative units
sam 21/02/20 2:07 pm for our own internal stuff
sam 21/02/20 2:07 pm and sellthe 468 for now until the market
accepts other formats
iBLAMEj00 21/02/20 2:07 pm I've got a better idea, how about ads that
move WHILE you view the page
sam 21/02/20 2:07 pm we do that already
iBLAMEj00 21/02/20 2:07 pm Like they follow your cursor.
sam 21/02/20 2:07 pm www.mp3-universal.com
sam 21/02/20 2:07 pm the comet cursor
sam 21/02/20 2:08 pm yeah..only problem is they're too small
sam 21/02/20 2:08 pm and dont build branding
sam 21/02/20 2:08 pm thats getting too chesey
iBLAMEj00 21/02/20 2:08 pm Yea, I know
sam 21/02/20 2:08 pm like on that thestreet article
sam 21/02/20 2:08 pm i didnt even see any of th4e ads
iBLAMEj00 21/02/20 2:08 pm I want it to follow the cursor so you can't
even click though =)
sam 21/02/20 2:08 pm when iw as reading it
sam 21/02/20 2:09 pm they should have had a banner mixed in the
article
iBLAMEj00 21/02/20 2:09 pm Yea, we should do some study.
sam 21/02/20 2:09 pm and publish it
sam 21/02/20 2:09 pm case study
iBLAMEj00 21/02/20 2:09 pm Like have someone view a page, then close it
and then ask questions about it.
sam 21/02/20 2:09 pm i bet we'd get notoriety
iBLAMEj00 21/02/20 2:09 pm Nah, keep the info and use it =)
sam 21/02/20 2:10 pm or issue a pr..and get branding :)
sam 21/02/20 2:10 pm which lures advertisers:)
iBLAMEj00 21/02/20 2:10 pm Someone should tall MP3 Univerasal that
Christmas was 2 months ago.
sam 21/02/20 2:10 pm hehe i know
iBLAMEj00 21/02/20 2:10 pm Yea, there ya go.
sam 21/02/20 2:10 pm im getting all the mp3 sites consolidated
under one person
sam 21/02/20 2:10 pm 1cpm on total daily uniques on all the 10
sites
sam 21/02/20 2:10 pm for a maximum of 2500/month
sam 21/02/20 2:10 pm he's happy with it
sam 21/02/20 2:10 pm pretty severe :)
iBLAMEj00 21/02/20 2:10 pm Heh
sam 21/02/20 2:10 pm heh
sam 21/02/20 2:10 pm i just gotta do a contract
sam 21/02/20 2:11 pm yuk stuff :)
iBLAMEj00 21/02/20 2:11 pm Well, they are all ghey ass sites.
sam 21/02/20 2:11 pm yeah i suppose.. buthey its traffic.. and im
putting it in the contract he cant popup
anythying
sam 21/02/20 2:11 pm i told him expliclity no popup and no fake
traffic
iBLAMEj00 21/02/20 2:11 pm Some sites are so easy to build, like my new
site:
http://www.celebfoto.com/babes/
Made it in one day
sam 21/02/20 2:11 pm he was klike heh ok
iBLAMEj00 21/02/20 2:11 pm fake traffic.
iBLAMEj00 21/02/20 2:12 pm mp3=fake traffic and pop-ups =)
iBLAMEj00 21/02/20 2:12 pm Just like those mp3 and top sites.
sam 21/02/20 2:12 pm heh i didnt know efront owned celebfoto :)
iBLAMEj00 21/02/20 2:12 pm Heh, they don't, I'm just running your ghey
ads =)
sam 21/02/20 2:12 pm oh is that ur own site heh
sam 21/02/20 2:13 pm thats cheating :)
iBLAMEj00 21/02/20 2:13 pm Hey, I spent like an hour on it =)
sam 21/02/20 2:13 pm yeah why are we driving traffic to xbox..
i'drather kill scotts traffic
sam 21/02/20 2:13 pm heh
sam 21/02/20 2:13 pm conflict of interest:)
iBLAMEj00 21/02/20 2:13 pm Yea, I've been asking that.
iBLAMEj00 21/02/20 2:13 pm It runs 100% of the time.
iBLAMEj00 21/02/20 2:13 pm 100%!!!
sam 21/02/20 2:14 pm fuck.. i wonder who did that
iBLAMEj00 21/02/20 2:14 pm I don't know, it's been like that for several
days.
iBLAMEj00 21/02/20 2:14 pm But, no one is replying to messages, so I
can't really tell anyone about it.
iBLAMEj00 21/02/20 2:15 pm I think I told you last night.
sam 21/02/20 2:15 pm yeah
sam 21/02/20 2:15 pm i just msged nate and roy
sam 21/02/20 2:15 pm i hate tech ppl :)
sam 21/02/20 2:15 pm heh i shouldnt say that
iBLAMEj00 21/02/20 2:15 pm Heh
sam 21/02/20 2:16 pm heh you changed theh position
sam 21/02/20 2:16 pm of the banner next to next:)
sam 21/02/20 2:16 pm i almostgot faked:)
iBLAMEj00 21/02/20 2:16 pm Heh, sucker! =)
sam 21/02/20 2:17 pm fucker :)
iBLAMEj00 21/02/20 2:17 pm heh
iBLAMEj00 21/02/20 2:17 pm Cha-Ching!
sam 21/02/20 2:17 pm why is yasmine bleeth "new" heh
iBLAMEj00 21/02/20 2:17 pm The images were updated.
iBLAMEj00 21/02/20 2:18 pm It's dymanic page content, it knows that a
picture was updated in the last few days.
sam 21/02/20 2:18 pm i wish we could do a simple content management
system
sam 21/02/20 2:18 pm that most of the websites can use
sam 21/02/20 2:18 pm where they enter their stupid content
sam 21/02/20 2:19 pm and we control where things go
iBLAMEj00 21/02/20 2:19 pm heh "stupid"
sam 21/02/20 2:19 pm heh
sam 21/02/20 2:19 pm well im not far off:)
iBLAMEj00 21/02/20 2:19 pm Yea, I think it can be done for some simple
sites, but all is a pipe-dream.
sam 21/02/20 2:19 pm nothing original
sam 21/02/20 2:19 pm well cnet does it
iBLAMEj00 21/02/20 2:20 pm With what content?
sam 21/02/20 2:20 pm allof it.. they use a content mgmt system.. so
do all the big sites
sam 21/02/20 2:20 pm zdnet uses vignette
iBLAMEj00 21/02/20 2:20 pm Heh, yuck.
sam 21/02/20 2:21 pm cnet was actually vignettes first beta
customer and cra
iBLAMEj00 21/02/20 2:22 pm You need an army of people to manage that crap
system.
sam 21/02/20 2:22 pm More than 40 percent of Yahoo's traffic comes
from outside the United States and accounts
for only 15 percent of its overall revenue.
sam 21/02/20 2:22 pm yeah
sam 21/02/20 2:23 pm thats why i said 'simple ' content mgmt system
iBLAMEj00 21/02/20 2:23 pm http://cnet.com/news/0-1005-200-4880283.html?t
g=tp_pr
iBLAMEj00 21/02/20 2:23 pm Even news.com doesn't look like cnet.
iBLAMEj00 21/02/20 2:24 pm Also, I love that napster is offering a
billion dollars to pirate music considering
that they haven't even made any money off it
yet.
sam 21/02/20 2:25 pm 1 billion is actually cheap
sam 21/02/20 2:25 pm they'll never accept it
sam 21/02/20 2:25 pm if they do, it legitimizes piracy
sam 21/02/20 2:25 pm so noone will buy cds
iBLAMEj00 21/02/20 2:25 pm Right
sam 21/02/20 2:25 pm because getting it free from napster is ok :)
sam 21/02/20 2:26 pm would u pay 5 bucks a month
iBLAMEj00 21/02/20 2:26 pm I'm not a big mp3 junkie.
sam 21/02/20 2:26 pm i bet most ppl would
iBLAMEj00 21/02/20 2:27 pm Yea, $5 is better than $15/CD
sam 21/02/20 2:27 pm and the stuff thats downloaded the most gets
the most % of the revenues
sam 21/02/20 2:27 pm so popular artists would benefit more
sam 21/02/20 2:27 pm so it could work :)
iBLAMEj00 21/02/20 2:28 pm As long as they don't base it on a banner
model =)
iBLAMEj00 21/02/20 2:29 pm I think I'm going to get the license plate
"adz sux"
sam 21/02/20 2:29 pm would you prefer blind link text link cpc
model :)
sam 21/02/20 2:41 pm you know we're selling an ad serving
solution..
i'd like to be innovative..and give something
other ppl arent giving.. is it possible say on
the street (the article we were looking at)..
to change the location of an ad unit on the
fly and maintain a decent layout still
iBLAMEj00 21/02/20 2:41 pm Sure.
sam 21/02/20 2:42 pm and make it a marketing technology solution we
can sell to our ad serving clients
sam 21/02/20 2:42 pm and make it work successfully on random sites
sam 21/02/20 2:43 pm like they put a tag in the web page like they
normally do (like at the top). but the ad tag
is a jscript functino or something.. that puts
the real ad somewhere / anywhere /randomnly in
the pge
sam 21/02/20 2:43 pm like how to make it scalable conveniently no a
large scale
sam 21/02/20 2:43 pm and add a proprietary nature to it
that would be worth serious bucks :)
iBLAMEj00 21/02/20 2:44 pm Well, that would be harder.
sam 21/02/20 2:44 pm a company could get funded on that alone if it
worked:)
iBLAMEj00 21/02/20 2:44 pm You can't just stick an ad in a random
location. there has to be places where it can
go.
iBLAMEj00 21/02/20 2:45 pm That damn button.
sam 21/02/20 2:45 pm oops..
hmm.. have u ever invented any techonogly :)
sam 21/02/20 2:45 pm changing ads..is that patentable heh
sam 21/02/20 2:46 pm dynamic content is nothing new i know
sam 21/02/20 2:46 pm bbut applying that to ads
iBLAMEj00 21/02/20 2:46 pm With our patent office, sure it's possible.
sam 21/02/20 2:46 pm thats how stupid patents are given..taking a
concept and applying it to new stuff that they
dont understnd:)
iBLAMEj00 21/02/20 2:46 pm Right, like Amazon having the patent on
cookies.
sam 21/02/20 2:47 pm really
sam 21/02/20 2:47 pm no they dont
iBLAMEj00 21/02/20 2:47 pm Ah, yea they do.
sam 21/02/20 2:47 pm cmgi has a patent on searching and indexing :)
sam 21/02/20 2:47 pm through altavista
sam 21/02/20 2:47 pm and i read they were oging to start enforcing
that
iBLAMEj00 21/02/20 2:48 pm And Apple has the patent on the hyperlink.
iBLAMEj00 21/02/20 2:48 pm Try to make a website without any hyperlinks.
iBLAMEj00 21/02/20 2:49 pm The patent office is stupid with new
technology, Amazon got a bunch of patents for
simple common internet technologies, like
cookies.
iBLAMEj00 21/02/20 2:50 pm Which they didn't even invent, they just use
it to track who you are so the next time you
show up you don't have to enter your info.
sam 21/02/20 3:09 pm some of our wformer webmasters are msging me
iBLAMEj00 21/02/20 3:10 pm About?
sam 21/02/20 3:10 pm they want us to host them
sam 21/02/20 3:10 pm they're being charged 760/mnth right now
sam 21/02/20 3:10 pm asked if we can do cheaper
sam 21/02/20 3:11 pm im having dennis draw up a hsting contract
sam 21/02/20 3:11 pm using cais's As-Is no warranty contract as a
template:)
iBLAMEj00 21/02/20 3:11 pm What site?
sam 21/02/20 3:11 pm avfind
sam 21/02/20 3:11 pm i have about 5 webmasters who want hosting
actually
sam 21/02/20 3:11 pm we can charge them 500/month maybe
sam 21/02/20 3:11 pm hey ill take the 5k
iBLAMEj00 21/02/20 3:11 pm lewzers.
sam 21/02/20 3:11 pm hey its $$ for us :)
iBLAMEj00 21/02/20 3:12 pm Still, they are lewzers =)
sam 21/02/20 3:12 pm hey at least if they dont payt
iBLAMEj00 21/02/20 3:12 pm avfind can't even set his background to white.
sam 21/02/20 3:12 pm we keep their site :)
iBLAMEj00 21/02/20 3:12 pm Offer a free hosting deal.
sam 21/02/20 3:12 pm i'd rather make money off of them
iBLAMEj00 21/02/20 3:13 pm Heh
sam 21/02/20 3:13 pm and still pop them:)
sam 21/02/20 3:13 pm j/k
iBLAMEj00 21/02/20 3:13 pm What about free hosting and you get the
pop-ups
sam 21/02/20 3:13 pm screw that.. i want hosting revenues ..
AFTER we host, i can say.. ok run pops and
we'll cut 100 bucks off ur bill:)
iBLAMEj00 21/02/20 3:14 pm Or if they stop paying, you add pop-ups =)
sam 21/02/20 3:14 pm there u go:)
iBLAMEj00 21/02/20 3:14 pm And I mean one day late =)
sam 21/02/20 3:14 pm isnt that privacy violation :)
sam 21/02/20 3:14 pm heh
sam 21/02/20 3:14 pm i should add that in the contract:)
sam 21/02/20 3:14 pm that would be funny
iBLAMEj00 21/02/20 3:16 pm http://tribalwar.com/forums/showthread.php?thr
adid=24539&pagenumber=
Oh no, an "All your base are belong to us"
fad.
iBLAMEj00 21/02/20 3:17 pm It's a jap game that was translated to english
VERY poorly.
sam 21/02/20 3:18 pm heh
iBLAMEj00 21/02/20 3:18 pm http://hammer.prohosting.com/~badcrc/store.jpg
iBLAMEj00 21/02/20 3:18 pm That looks almost real.
sam 21/02/20 3:19 pm it is real i think
iBLAMEj00 21/02/20 3:19 pm It's not, it's just the "All your base are
belong to us" fad.
iBLAMEj00 21/02/20 3:20 pm http://hammer.prohosting.com/~badcrc/exams.jpg
sam 21/02/20 3:20 pm yeah i seen that everywhere already
sam 21/02/20 3:20 pm quibba.com is another good idea
iBLAMEj00 21/02/20 3:20 pm http://www.planetstarsiege.com/kelster/base/si
n_base.jpg
sam 21/02/20 3:20 pm lots of email signups
iBLAMEj00 21/02/20 3:21 pm People need a hobby.
sam 21/02/20 3:22 pm http://news.cnet.com/news/0-1005-200-4861949.h
ml?tag=ch_mh
sam 21/02/20 3:22 pm talking baout hobbies
sam 21/02/20 3:22 pm hey i have an idea
sam 21/02/20 3:23 pm do u remember alexa.com
sam 21/02/20 3:23 pm and their sidebar
sam 21/02/20 3:23 pm relatedlinks?
sam 21/02/20 3:23 pm well add a sidebar to icq iwindows
sam 21/02/20 3:23 pm and everytime you send an IM
sam 21/02/20 3:23 pm the plugin parses your msg, and looks for
stuff
sam 21/02/20 3:23 pm and puts related articles
sam 21/02/20 3:23 pm for each IM :)
sam 21/02/20 3:23 pm or relatedlinks
sam 21/02/20 3:23 pm and they can sell that
sam 21/02/20 3:24 pm in goto-type fashion
sam 21/02/20 3:24 pm and ppl click on it .. cuz they would be very
curious
sam 21/02/20 3:24 pm like i just sent you that link
iBLAMEj00 21/02/20 3:24 pm Yea, all your base are belong to us if they
did that.
sam 21/02/20 3:25 pm well see on that note, the related link would
have links to army bases :)
iBLAMEj00 21/02/20 3:25 pm utilize vertical e-commerce
iBLAMEj00 21/02/20 3:26 pm strategize robust applications
iBLAMEj00 21/02/20 3:26 pm and implement cross-media web-readiness
iBLAMEj00 21/02/20 3:26 pm Then all your base are belong to us
iBLAMEj00 21/02/20 3:26 pm http://www.dack.com/web/bullshit.html
sam 21/02/20 3:26 pm thats really a video game right?
iBLAMEj00 21/02/20 3:27 pm "Web Economy Bullshit Generator"
iBLAMEj00 21/02/20 3:27 pm It's a line from a video game.
iBLAMEj00 21/02/20 3:27 pm http://www.cafepress.com/dreldarion/
sam 21/02/20 3:28 pm heh dack is funny
sam 21/02/20 3:28 pm tell matt he learned all his know-how from
there:)
iBLAMEj00 21/02/20 3:28 pm Heh
iBLAMEj00 21/02/20 3:33 pm If I live a thousand years, I will never get
"all your base are belong to us".
sam 21/02/20 3:33 pm In 1000 years, all your base are belong to us
iBLAMEj00 21/02/20 3:33 pm exactly.
iBLAMEj00 21/02/20 3:34 pm http://www.best.com/~calyxa/private/0images/ti
eayb.jpg
sam 21/02/20 3:34 pm sam: (11:29 PM)
http://www.dack.com/web/bullshit.html
did you learn all your tech stuff from here :)
LLoyd: (11:33 PM) no
[heh ppl take this seriously]
iBLAMEj00 21/02/20 3:34 pm Look at that detail.
sam 21/02/20 3:34 pm LLoyd: (11:34 PM) spent about 20k to get my
tech stuff ...
iBLAMEj00 21/02/20 3:34 pm heh
iBLAMEj00 21/02/20 3:35 pm Tell him you spent 20 seconds and implemented
cross-media web-readiness
sam 21/02/20 3:35 pm LLoyd: (11:34 PM) spent about 20k to get my
tech stuff ...
LLoyd: (11:34 PM) 7 course 2k each..the cisco
course was 3k
LLoyd: (11:35 PM) then paid my self for 5
months.. off of memoryman.com
sam: (11:35 PM) you couldve learned it for
free from dack.com :)
iBLAMEj00 21/02/20 3:35 pm heh
iBLAMEj00 21/02/20 3:36 pm I'm laughing more about the memoryman.com
sam 21/02/20 3:36 pm sam: (11:35 PM) you couldve learned it for
free from dack.com :)
sam: (11:36 PM) i spent 20 seconds and
generated cross-media web readiness
LLoyd: (11:36 PM) whats that bull shit for
sam 21/02/20 3:36 pm what should i tell him
sam 21/02/20 3:37 pm what is memoryman.. lemme see
iBLAMEj00 21/02/20 3:37 pm Just click "make bullshit"
iBLAMEj00 21/02/20 3:37 pm maximize user-centric channels
iBLAMEj00 21/02/20 3:37 pm grow viral infrastructures
iBLAMEj00 21/02/20 3:37 pm whiteboard mission-critical action-items
sam 21/02/20 3:38 pm maybe that should be a requirement for all
sales people.. to study that
sam 21/02/20 3:38 pm and they can only speak in the output
iBLAMEj00 21/02/20 3:38 pm Don't they already?
iBLAMEj00 21/02/20 3:39 pm Well, I need to leverage bleeding-edge
metrics, get something to eat, and all your
base are belong to us.
iBLAMEj00 21/02/20 3:39 pm Just tell him "all your base are belong to us"
sam 21/02/20 3:40 pm maybe they meant fall off your ass below us?
sam 21/02/20 3:42 pm i got something funnier
sam 21/02/20 3:42 pm than all your base blone to us
sam 21/02/20 3:42 pm its in email format and i have to send it to
u :)
sam 21/02/20 3:42 pm remember the french guy?
iBLAMEj00 21/02/20 3:44 pm "french guy"
sam 21/02/20 3:44 pm dany123: (11:44 PM) Dennis is a master of this
lingo.
dany123: (11:44 PM) i love to hear that guy
talk.
sam 21/02/20 3:44 pm that is funny hehe (he's saying about that
dack.com stuff)
sam 21/02/20 3:44 pm remember the french guy i fired?
sam 21/02/20 3:44 pm nicolas
sam 21/02/20 3:44 pm he sent the funniest email
sam 21/02/20 3:45 pm "What have you done kids that give you the
right to talk to me like if I was a dumb?"
sam 21/02/20 3:46 pm thats so funny :)
sam 21/02/20 3:48 pm isnt the entire email the funniest shit lol
iBLAMEj00 21/02/20 3:51 pm > > to quote s4r:
> >
> > Folks,
> >
> > Would you like me to explain to Nicolas
how all of this works? I cannot
> > honestly fathom how he ties his shoes, let
alone writes code.
iBLAMEj00 21/02/20 3:51 pm Heh, even s4r gets in on it.
sam 21/02/20 3:51 pm he mustve been pissed:)
sam 21/02/20 3:51 pm and i fwd it all to him
sam 21/02/20 3:51 pm pretty bad:p
iBLAMEj00 21/02/20 3:52 pm Well, what do you expect from a french frog.
sam 21/02/20 3:52 pm maybe put something on aah
about Frogger the video game
sam 21/02/20 3:52 pm then a link.. to see a french frog click here
sam 21/02/20 3:52 pm and send it to choukroun.com
sam 21/02/20 3:52 pm oops.. i think the site is still down
iBLAMEj00 21/02/20 3:52 pm Hey, I teach internet to CEOs.
sam 21/02/20 3:52 pm lol
sam 21/02/20 3:53 pm heh
sam 21/02/20 3:53 pm PS : where is gone the 2nd HD that was on the
emuclassics server???
sam 21/02/20 3:53 pm i wonder if he wrote it in french and used
babelfish.altavista.com
iBLAMEj00 21/02/20 3:53 pm It seems like it.
sam 21/02/20 3:54 pm heh.. but ou know, i bet you'd have the same
complaints.. just grammared properly :)
iBLAMEj00 21/02/20 3:54 pm I like converting a sentence through bablefish
like 10 times and trying to get the meaning.
sam 21/02/20 3:54 pm ohhh haha.. the funniest thing
sam 21/02/20 3:54 pm some stupid french webmaster sent me an email
sam 21/02/20 3:54 pm in french
sam 21/02/20 3:54 pm i was lik huh
sam 21/02/20 3:55 pm so i went to babelfish
iBLAMEj00 21/02/20 3:55 pm I've never met a French person I liked.
sam 21/02/20 3:55 pm and haha.. it said basically that if you dont
answer in 48 hours and give us hosting
(sitefun.com).. we'll get the french and
american courts on you
sam 21/02/20 3:55 pm iwrote him back.. can you please write in
english next time:)
sam 21/02/20 3:55 pm and said
'no understandy'
iBLAMEj00 21/02/20 3:55 pm Heh
sam 21/02/20 3:55 pm heh
iBLAMEj00 21/02/20 3:56 pm I just reply back "hablo english?"
sam 21/02/20 3:56 pm um thats spanish:)
iBLAMEj00 21/02/20 3:56 pm I know
sam 21/02/20 3:56 pm i dont think they would get it
iBLAMEj00 21/02/20 3:56 pm So that totally fools them.
sam 21/02/20 3:56 pm actually
sam 21/02/20 3:56 pm thats bad
iBLAMEj00 21/02/20 3:56 pm Exactly. So they can't reply.
sam 21/02/20 3:56 pm hablo ingles
iBLAMEj00 21/02/20 3:56 pm Same diff.
sam 21/02/20 3:57 pm nah.. then they would know you were faking
sam 21/02/20 3:57 pm :)
iBLAMEj00 21/02/20 3:57 pm No, because they are french, so they have no
idea what I said.
iBLAMEj00 21/02/20 3:57 pm I could say "all your base are belong to us".
sam 21/02/20 3:58 pm or call them "a dumb"
iBLAMEj00 21/02/20 3:58 pm Listen, I've done real things in my life.
sam 21/02/20 3:58 pm at least he didnt say "an dumb"
iBLAMEj00 21/02/20 3:59 pm Heh
sam 21/02/20 3:59 pm '"people like
you are located in the basement, in a middle
of a mess of tin cans, and paid
$45k. "
sam 21/02/20 3:59 pm lol
iBLAMEj00 21/02/20 3:59 pm Well, how's your office in the basement in the
middle of tin cans?
iBLAMEj00 21/02/20 3:59 pm It sounds like he's talking from personal
experience.
sam 21/02/20 4:00 pm so was he an employee of EA or what ..
sam 21/02/20 4:00 pm i dont understnad
iBLAMEj00 21/02/20 4:00 pm No, he's like a cleaning lady or something.
iBLAMEj00 21/02/20 4:00 pm Cause he just says he worked in their
building.
iBLAMEj00 21/02/20 4:01 pm And then started talking about how dirty it
was in the basement.
sam 21/02/20 4:01 pm and now, because you are a master, a god on
Internet : show me how a great
engineer like you can transfer domain names
back to me :))
Talking is easy, now we need real action.
-->do you think matt will bite this bait! ooh
iBLAMEj00 21/02/20 4:01 pm And that he's got a schedule.
iBLAMEj00 21/02/20 4:01 pm And a deadline.
iBLAMEj00 21/02/20 4:02 pm Matt and Nate can't do eFront work, why would
they do stuff for this french frog?
sam 21/02/20 4:02 pm If you don't, then you will see your real face
back in the mirror. And
you'll have a chance to get better...or to get
worse.
this totally confused me
iBLAMEj00 21/02/20 4:03 pm I know.
iBLAMEj00 21/02/20 4:03 pm "If you do it in less than a week... I'll fax
you my excuse, and I'll publish
them on Emuclassics front page !"
iBLAMEj00 21/02/20 4:03 pm Is that a threat?
sam 21/02/20 4:03 pm thats a carrot
sam 21/02/20 4:03 pm the stick is next
sam 21/02/20 4:04 pm he means apology i think
iBLAMEj00 21/02/20 4:05 pm If you do it in less than one week... I will
send to you by fax my excuse, and I will
publish them in the page before Emuclassics!
If you not, then you will see your true back
of face in the mirror. And you will be likely
to better be... or to become worse.
iBLAMEj00 21/02/20 4:05 pm I translated it from "english" to Frence, and
back to English again.
sam 21/02/20 4:05 pm ha ha
sam 21/02/20 4:06 pm you might have to ask matt what that really
means
sam 21/02/20 4:06 pm maybe he knows osmething about matt and
mirrrs?
iBLAMEj00 21/02/20 4:06 pm Yea, it's like it's some kind of inside joke
or something.
iBLAMEj00 21/02/20 4:07 pm We should forward all his domains to A@H also
=)
sam 21/02/20 4:07 pm btw, i told marc F to do emunet this mroning
in the future, just get marc to do stuff
sam 21/02/20 4:07 pm he responds:
sam 21/02/20 4:07 pm :)
iBLAMEj00 21/02/20 4:08 pm Heh
sam 21/02/20 4:08 pm well i think his domains are still fucdk
iBLAMEj00 21/02/20 4:08 pm I see it's working now.
sam 21/02/20 4:08 pm reall
sam 21/02/20 4:08 pm emuclassics?
iBLAMEj00 21/02/20 4:08 pm Redirect them all to manhole.com or something
then.
iBLAMEj00 21/02/20 4:09 pm Yea, the Frency guy's sites.
sam 21/02/20 4:09 pm http://www.w3px.com/poems/1998/1998_03/week_4/
xp15901.htm
sam 21/02/20 4:09 pm redirect them here
iBLAMEj00 21/02/20 4:09 pm perfect.
sam 21/02/20 4:09 pm tell matt, i bet he'd do it too .. since i fwd
his email back to matt
im a troublemaker :)
sam 21/02/20 4:10 pm ill fwd matts reply to him :)
iBLAMEj00 21/02/20 4:10 pm Heh
sam 21/02/20 4:12 pm 'sold games to hundreds of thousndas of ppl'
i think he's talking about srunner deployment
on his site
sam 21/02/20 4:12 pm someone should email him and ask him if thats
what he meant :)
sam 21/02/20 4:12 pm he'd get so pissed heh
iBLAMEj00 21/02/20 4:13 pm Heh, he's clueless obviously.
sam 21/02/20 4:16 pm well better to hvae him pick on matt than
having my to go directly in Jail and have my
head at prime time .
iBLAMEj00 21/02/20 4:21 pm Yea, I hear he has goons in LA.
sam 21/02/20 4:30 pm btw tht poem wont work
sam 21/02/20 4:30 pm :(
sam 21/02/20 4:30 pm its just a french frog.. not a fucking french
frog
iBLAMEj00 21/02/20 4:30 pm Darn. Maybe we can find a picture of two
frogs fucking?
sam 21/02/20 4:31 pm manhole.com
iBLAMEj00 21/02/20 4:31 pm That will work.
iBLAMEj00 21/02/20 4:32 pm Or this: http://goatse.cx
iBLAMEj00 21/02/20 4:32 pm I suggest that you don't go to that link.
sam 21/02/20 4:32 pm trsut me i wasnt planning on it:)
sam 21/02/20 4:32 pm although that might be a good banner ad..
iBLAMEj00 21/02/20 4:32 pm It would get noticed.
sam 21/02/20 4:33 pm [link...]
"I Suggest you do not click on this link'
sam 21/02/20 4:33 pm i mean the concept
iBLAMEj00 21/02/20 4:33 pm Heh
iBLAMEj00 21/02/20 4:33 pm I've seen those ads
sam 21/02/20 4:33 pm cuz im all tempted to click on it
sam 21/02/20 4:33 pm seriously
sam 21/02/20 4:33 pm cuz u told me not to
sam 21/02/20 4:33 pm :)
iBLAMEj00 21/02/20 4:33 pm "test banner, don't click"
iBLAMEj00 21/02/20 4:45 pm Not only is the game rankings xbox thingy
stuck, so is the rest of the web guide content
(storerunner etc).
iBLAMEj00 21/02/20 11:55 pm http://www.nakednews.com
sam 22/02/20 12:20 am no more cnn for me.. im hooked
iBLAMEj00 22/02/20 12:59 am Heh
iBLAMEj00 22/02/20 12:59 am They do give a nice front-page news, who needs
more, and they are nekkid at the same time.
sam 22/02/20 1:00 am too bad its the same models.. once u see one
naked, it loses its effect. they should have
a new model everytie
iBLAMEj00 22/02/20 1:01 am Yea, that would work.
iBLAMEj00 22/02/20 1:01 am Also, their one model is either fat or
pregnant.
sam 22/02/20 1:01 am i know heh
iBLAMEj00 22/02/20 1:02 am If she's pregnant, maybe they are playing on
fetishes.
iBLAMEj00 22/02/20 1:03 am A@H has gone immoral all in one day. Posted
the FHM front-cover, talked about the bullshit
generator, and started linking to the
celebfoto site =)
sam 22/02/20 1:05 am nekkidnews dude
sam 22/02/20 1:05 am u forgot that
iBLAMEj00 22/02/20 1:05 am I didn't post a link to that.
sam 22/02/20 1:07 am so why not go all the way
iBLAMEj00 22/02/20 1:08 am why not just post a link to goatse.cx then.
sam 22/02/20 1:55 pm freakling scott from Gr removedthe bottom
banners from the site too
btw, lets try towrap up the new agreement
tomorrow so you're on board..then u canhelp me
herd the other ppl on board :)
sam 23/02/20 10:34 am man scott is on a warpath
sam 23/02/20 10:34 am werent you guys friends.. :)
iBLAMEj00 23/02/20 11:08 am Heh, yea, till he stop talking to me =)
iBLAMEj00 23/02/20 11:09 am And Nate thinks 2 hours is 30 minutes.
sam 23/02/20 11:10 am im talking to Scott now
sam 23/02/20 11:10 am he's cool
sam 23/02/20 11:10 am his biggest beef was communication
iBLAMEj00 23/02/20 11:10 am Heh
sam 23/02/20 11:10 am he hates g3 :)
iBLAMEj00 23/02/20 11:10 am I communicated, he never replied.
iBLAMEj00 23/02/20 11:55 am Nate is now trying to piss me off.
sam 23/02/20 11:56 am heh
sam 23/02/20 11:56 am whats he saying
iBLAMEj00 23/02/20 11:56 am 1) take server down for hours with no warning.
iBLAMEj00 23/02/20 11:56 am 2) don't take cell phone with him
iBLAMEj00 23/02/20 11:56 am 3) provide no way to contact
sam 23/02/20 11:56 am i know.. i called him this afternoon
sam 23/02/20 11:56 am ohh.. he's online
sam 23/02/20 11:56 am i was just alking to him
iBLAMEj00 23/02/20 11:57 am 4) when I track him down through S4R, reply
"don't call me"
iBLAMEj00 23/02/20 11:57 am Yea, he just replied after I tracked him down
through S4R
iBLAMEj00 23/02/20 11:58 am I've got this feeling that he's not swapping
hard drives, but pulling the contents from my
hard drive and moving it to the NFS.
iBLAMEj00 23/02/20 12:00 pm And don't tell me that the newsletter campaign
doesn't allow it to be used as a newsletter.
sam 23/02/20 12:01 pm heh
sam 23/02/20 12:01 pm it should be used as a newsletter
sam 23/02/20 12:01 pm did he send the wrong instructinos out
iBLAMEj00 23/02/20 12:02 pm He's clueless as to what it does, so he can't
explain it.
sam 23/02/20 12:03 pm heheh..thats so funny
iBLAMEj00 23/02/20 12:04 pm It's only funny cause it's true =)
sam 23/02/20 12:04 pm i told g3 i liked his little line @ the bottom
:)
sam 23/02/20 12:05 pm sam: (8:05 PM) iBLAMEj00: (8:00 PM) And don't
tell me that the newsletter campaign doesn't
allow it to be used as a newsletter.
sam: (8:01 PM) heh
sam: (8:01 PM) it should be used as a
newsletter
sam: (8:01 PM) did we send the wrong
instructinos out
iBLAMEj00: (8:02 PM) He's clueless as to what
it does, so he can't explain it.
[hehe]
[i sent that to him.. lets see what he says :)
sam 23/02/20 12:06 pm of course, i changed the 'he' to a we'.. didnt
want to seem like i was singling him out :)
iBLAMEj00 23/02/20 12:06 pm Heh
sam 23/02/20 12:07 pm Scott -Game Rankings: (8:06 PM) Lets sleep on
it. It is my bed time. :) Like I said, I
love working with Brad and doing Gaming
Targeted stuff. So I would like us to work
something out.
[heh]
sam 23/02/20 12:07 pm he wanted to only run our ads when we had
gaming stuff
sam 23/02/20 12:07 pm i waslike.. i dont do affilite :)
sam 23/02/20 12:07 pm ohhhhhhhhhh
iBLAMEj00 23/02/20 12:07 pm Heh
sam 23/02/20 12:07 pm we worked out megagames!!!
iBLAMEj00 23/02/20 12:07 pm Cool, what was the deal?
sam 23/02/20 12:07 pm actually the hardest one now is babynames
sam 23/02/20 12:07 pm we have like 95% on board
sam 23/02/20 12:08 pm megagames- $2cpmU
sam 23/02/20 12:08 pm and guess what
sam 23/02/20 12:08 pm :)
sam 23/02/20 12:08 pm i thought of this and Will pichedit
sam 23/02/20 12:08 pm and it worked
sam 23/02/20 12:09 pm we'll give him banners networkwide @ 75cent
cpm
iBLAMEj00 23/02/20 12:09 pm Huh?
sam 23/02/20 12:09 pm until we exhause his backpay
iBLAMEj00 23/02/20 12:09 pm Heh
iBLAMEj00 23/02/20 12:09 pm That's a damn good idea.
sam 23/02/20 12:09 pm we'll give him our default banners
iBLAMEj00 23/02/20 12:09 pm Yea
sam 23/02/20 12:09 pm heh
sam 23/02/20 12:10 pm and he's happy cuz
iBLAMEj00 23/02/20 12:10 pm Instaed of showing my face.
sam 23/02/20 12:10 pm even if he makes 50 cents off of it
sam 23/02/20 12:10 pm he doesnt have to wait 3 years
sam 23/02/20 12:10 pm to get his money
sam 23/02/20 12:10 pm :)
iBLAMEj00 23/02/20 12:10 pm Yea, and you get more traffic also =)
iBLAMEj00 23/02/20 12:10 pm Who did you do that with?
sam 23/02/20 12:10 pm well, no he'll resell it to someone else
sam 23/02/20 12:10 pm not to promote megagames
iBLAMEj00 23/02/20 12:11 pm Oh
sam 23/02/20 12:11 pm thats why i said
sam 23/02/20 12:11 pm if he makes 50 cents off of it even
sam 23/02/20 12:11 pm he can collect the money now :)
sam 23/02/20 12:11 pm instead of in 3 years :)
sam 23/02/20 12:11 pm (the backpay)
iBLAMEj00 23/02/20 12:11 pm Yea, that's a good idea.
sam 23/02/20 12:11 pm pretty neat huh
sam 23/02/20 12:12 pm I told Will to sell it @ 75 cent and he bite
sam 23/02/20 12:12 pm Will called and said he wanted 3 months
sam 23/02/20 12:12 pm of banners
sam 23/02/20 12:12 pm i said now ay
sam 23/02/20 12:12 pm we'll give him our defaults until the backpay
is exchaustd @ 75centcpm
sam 23/02/20 12:12 pm heh..:)
iBLAMEj00 23/02/20 12:12 pm heh
iBLAMEj00 23/02/20 12:12 pm The worthless defaults.
sam 23/02/20 12:13 pm heh
sam 23/02/20 12:13 pm pretty good huh
iBLAMEj00 23/02/20 12:13 pm He's like buying his own banner views.
sam 23/02/20 12:13 pm recycyling garbage:)
sam 23/02/20 12:14 pm its basically barter!
iBLAMEj00 23/02/20 12:14 pm Yea
iBLAMEj00 23/02/20 12:14 pm You going to run those ads on just his site or
network wide?
sam 23/02/20 12:14 pm network wide
sam 23/02/20 12:14 pm code it so defaults go to his stuff for the #
of ads
sam 23/02/20 12:14 pm and we're done.. then its 12k/month
sam 23/02/20 12:14 pm 2cpmu
sam 23/02/20 12:14 pm 2cpmU
iBLAMEj00 23/02/20 12:14 pm Heh
sam 23/02/20 12:15 pm makes 5500/month expensive :)
sam 23/02/20 12:15 pm in comparison :)
iBLAMEj00 23/02/20 12:15 pm Yea, but I'm not a mindless fuck either. =)
sam 23/02/20 12:15 pm hehe
sam 23/02/20 12:15 pm you're losing your touch.. we've been able to
do and rescue the deals you botched up :)
iBLAMEj00 23/02/20 12:16 pm So what does he get, like 80 million ads?
sam 23/02/20 12:16 pm yeah
sam 23/02/20 12:16 pm works for me:)
sam 23/02/20 12:16 pm ooh
sam 23/02/20 12:16 pm maybe we can trade ads for our vendors
iBLAMEj00 23/02/20 12:16 pm Heh, both Scott and Harsha wouldn't reply to
me, I couldn't continue if they don't talk.
sam 23/02/20 12:16 pm akamai, etc:/
sam 23/02/20 12:16 pm :)
sam 23/02/20 12:16 pm yeah
sam 23/02/20 12:16 pm well u know the feb 19 deadline came
sam 23/02/20 12:17 pm and they emailed me
iBLAMEj00 23/02/20 12:17 pm Yea
sam 23/02/20 12:17 pm i redirected them to Will
sam 23/02/20 12:17 pm they had to talk to him :)
sam 23/02/20 12:17 pm and he did a good job
iBLAMEj00 23/02/20 12:17 pm I was waiting for them to contact me after the
19th. I told both that they wouldn't get paid
till it was resolved.
sam 23/02/20 12:17 pm heh yeah thats what happpened b asically
iBLAMEj00 23/02/20 12:18 pm BTW, scott told you what he told me that last
time we talked =)
sam 23/02/20 12:18 pm what do u mean
iBLAMEj00 23/02/20 12:18 pm "Scott -Game Rankings: (8:06 PM) Lets sleep on
it"
sam 23/02/20 12:18 pm oh haha
sam 23/02/20 12:18 pm he always says that too
sam 23/02/20 12:19 pm @ least we broke the ice
iBLAMEj00 23/02/20 12:19 pm I think that's his way of saying fuck off =)
sam 23/02/20 12:19 pm im not in a rush to get a deal done
sam 23/02/20 12:19 pm and we're not giving his site back
sam 23/02/20 12:19 pm :)
sam 23/02/20 12:19 pm of course, i said
'lets work it out.. of course we're not going
to hold u hostage'
iBLAMEj00 23/02/20 12:19 pm Right, I just figured, I'll wait for him to
come to me =)
sam 23/02/20 12:19 pm heh.. u should readmy convo with him.. i was
kissing his ass:)
iBLAMEj00 23/02/20 12:20 pm Heh
sam 23/02/20 12:20 pm sec
sam 23/02/20 12:20 pm I just emailed to u
i did tell g3 what he said about him
iBLAMEj00 23/02/20 12:20 pm Hey, I was trying to close emusphere/top-www
and Will couldn't find any info on them.
sam 23/02/20 12:21 pm g3 is going to lose self-estreem
sam 23/02/20 12:21 pm after this job:)
iBLAMEj00 23/02/20 12:21 pm Heh
sam 23/02/20 12:21 pm ohhh yeah.. i need to pull the contract
iBLAMEj00 23/02/20 12:21 pm Or grow like 10 new layers of skin.
sam 23/02/20 12:21 pm and send Will that info
iBLAMEj00 23/02/20 12:21 pm I send the contract to Will
sam 23/02/20 12:21 pm thanks
iBLAMEj00 23/02/20 12:21 pm He's owed $3,300
iBLAMEj00 23/02/20 12:22 pm Pay $1650 now and $1650 at the end?
sam 23/02/20 12:22 pm he what we are paying is 50% of one month's
pay :)
sam 23/02/20 12:23 pm did he have webguide and all that
sam 23/02/20 12:23 pm i know he's ur freind and all.. so we'll take
it easy on him :)
sam 23/02/20 12:24 pm oops.. no webguide..
u know, all the backpay.. anyone with no
webguide, i made their impressions for january
to equal zero
sam 23/02/20 12:24 pm noone's complained:)
iBLAMEj00 23/02/20 12:24 pm Heh
sam 23/02/20 12:24 pm and partial webguide.. i estimatedp artials
iBLAMEj00 23/02/20 12:24 pm No one has complained because no one can get
any stats.
sam 23/02/20 12:24 pm i went through every site and most of the
sections
sam 23/02/20 12:24 pm hehe
sam 23/02/20 12:24 pm really :)
sam 23/02/20 12:25 pm what happened.. is the stats server down
iBLAMEj00 23/02/20 12:25 pm Yep, been down since the move.
sam 23/02/20 12:25 pm ill msg marc to see whats up w/ that
sam 23/02/20 12:25 pm maybe its a good thing :)
sam 23/02/20 12:25 pm no, it wasnt planned :)
iBLAMEj00 23/02/20 12:25 pm No wait, it's back up now.
iBLAMEj00 23/02/20 12:25 pm Been down for weeks =)
iBLAMEj00 23/02/20 12:26 pm You know, Paul is going to school to be a
pastor.
iBLAMEj00 23/02/20 12:26 pm If you fuck him, you go to hell :/
sam 23/02/20 12:26 pm heh
sam 23/02/20 12:26 pm hey no web guide:)
iBLAMEj00 23/02/20 12:27 pm Here's the problem, he has never got a payment
from eFront.
sam 23/02/20 12:27 pm yeah i know.. neither did anyone else
sam 23/02/20 12:27 pm ok ok
sam 23/02/20 12:27 pm we'll see what we can do.. get him to put
campaigns and shit up though
sam 23/02/20 12:27 pm im just trying to break a bad habit
sam 23/02/20 12:27 pm sometimes the only way to do that is to
bitchslap ppl :)
iBLAMEj00 23/02/20 12:27 pm I know I told him to do it yesterday and just
told him to do it again :/
sam 23/02/20 12:28 pm he's too busy studying the bible
iBLAMEj00 23/02/20 12:28 pm He must be.
sam 23/02/20 12:29 pm someone signed my name up on one of our ads :)
sam 23/02/20 12:29 pm heh someone must not like me
iBLAMEj00 23/02/20 12:34 pm Well, you can bitchslap Paul if you want to,
just know that you're the one going to hell =)
sam 23/02/20 12:36 pm nah we dont do that to anyone.. we're the good
guys :)
iBLAMEj00 23/02/20 12:36 pm 51% good
sam 23/02/20 12:36 pm thats all that matters :)
iBLAMEj00 23/02/20 12:37 pm 50.000000000000000000000000000000000001% good
iBLAMEj00 23/02/20 12:37 pm Heh
iBLAMEj00 23/02/20 12:37 pm "mostly good"
sam 23/02/20 12:45 pm heyyy
sam 23/02/20 12:45 pm gimme that link for the rotating banner
sam 23/02/20 12:46 pm ilike it!!!
iBLAMEj00 23/02/20 12:46 pm http://www.ncadv.org/
sam 23/02/20 12:48 pm can we test it out
sam 23/02/20 12:49 pm Scottey: (8:48 PM) i don't like the rotation
sam: (8:48 PM) how come
sam: (8:48 PM) it will get alot of clicks!!
Scottey: (8:48 PM) because it will decrease
effective rates
Scottey: (8:48 PM) you think it will do better
iBLAMEj00 23/02/20 12:49 pm I'm talking CPC ads.
sam 23/02/20 12:49 pm yeah i know
iBLAMEj00 23/02/20 12:49 pm It can't decrease effective rates if it's only
CPC ads.
sam 23/02/20 12:50 pm Scottey: (8:50 PM) well i worked for a company
that rotated banners... and it does
sam: (8:50 PM) ohhh yeah them
Scottey: (8:50 PM) even at a 20 second refresh
sam 23/02/20 12:51 pm he worked for gotoworld.com (pay to surf) and
they rotated 20 secs
iBLAMEj00 23/02/20 12:51 pm Rotate is different than what this site is
doing.
iBLAMEj00 23/02/20 12:52 pm Just a rotation doesn't help much (but it does
help).
sam 23/02/20 12:52 pm u mean fade in fade out rotation?
iBLAMEj00 23/02/20 12:52 pm But, rotating like that really gets your
attention.
sam 23/02/20 12:52 pm can you try a test? if it works, we can roll
it network wide
iBLAMEj00 23/02/20 12:53 pm No I can't. they are using some kind of Java
thingy to do it.
sam 23/02/20 12:53 pm ohhh
sam 23/02/20 12:53 pm i thought u were a god at that kind of stuff
iBLAMEj00 23/02/20 12:53 pm Heh, I haven't even looked at how they are
doing it.
sam 23/02/20 12:58 pm maybe you can target real-time systems
iBLAMEj00 23/02/20 1:51 pm The idea with the babe site was to not spend
much time on it. However, I'm spending TONs
of time just looking at all the pictures =)
iBLAMEj00 23/02/20 3:24 pm Is everything slow as shit for you?
sam 24/02/20 11:28 am hey hows everything going
iBLAMEj00 24/02/20 12:44 pm Personally or site-wise?
sam 24/02/20 12:45 pm oh either way :)
iBLAMEj00 24/02/20 12:45 pm I think the celeb site is going to do a
million page views the first month, that's
good =)
sam 24/02/20 12:45 pm so should i get rid of celebs.cz
sam 24/02/20 12:45 pm seriously
sam 24/02/20 12:45 pm i will
iBLAMEj00 24/02/20 12:45 pm Heh
sam 24/02/20 12:46 pm his design is prettier :)
iBLAMEj00 24/02/20 12:46 pm I can leech everything from that site in like
5 minutes then you can shit can it =)
iBLAMEj00 24/02/20 12:46 pm Mine is built for speed =)
sam 24/02/20 12:46 pm lets do that to alot of sites:)
sam 24/02/20 12:46 pm check this email out
iBLAMEj00 24/02/20 12:46 pm And I spent like an hour on the design =)
iBLAMEj00 24/02/20 12:47 pm I've already said that you could kill all
emulation sites. Like if you killed mame.dk I
would get 100% of their traffic.
sam 24/02/20 12:47 pm well when i said kill, i mean get rid of it
from our network
sam 24/02/20 12:47 pm like kick'em out
iBLAMEj00 24/02/20 12:47 pm And we could do that will all MP3 sites, but I
think you already combined them.
sam 24/02/20 12:47 pm i dont really want to shut it down cuz
sam 24/02/20 12:48 pm we dont want to make too many enemies
iBLAMEj00 24/02/20 12:48 pm Heh
sam 24/02/20 12:48 pm and thats part of the 49.0009% evil stuff
iBLAMEj00 24/02/20 12:48 pm And I think in the case of mame.dk, they still
control the domain, and they host it for free,
so they could easily start over =)
sam 24/02/20 12:48 pm but you can still get mame.dk traffic if we
got rid of it?
iBLAMEj00 24/02/20 12:49 pm Oh yea, the only reason they have more traffic
is because they have a tech support staff.
sam 24/02/20 12:49 pm how is g3 and marc helping you on tech support
iBLAMEj00 24/02/20 12:49 pm I can't provide downloads, yet can still do
700k banner views at peak time.
iBLAMEj00 24/02/20 12:50 pm Who are g3 and marc?
sam 24/02/20 12:50 pm someone told me about planetmirror.com
sam 24/02/20 12:50 pm all we need to do is send them a harddrive
sam 24/02/20 12:50 pm and they'll mirror stuff
sam 24/02/20 12:50 pm what bout that
iBLAMEj00 24/02/20 12:50 pm I've been talking with hosting companies in
tiwain.
iBLAMEj00 24/02/20 12:51 pm No copyright laws there =)
sam 24/02/20 12:51 pm nice:)
iBLAMEj00 24/02/20 12:51 pm The ones I'm talking to are WAY too expensive,
but there are much cheaper ones.
iBLAMEj00 24/02/20 12:52 pm It's not a mirror problem, it's that I don't
have ftp setup yet, umung other things.
sam 24/02/20 12:52 pm did you send the issue to helpdesk@efront.com
:)
iBLAMEj00 24/02/20 12:52 pm Yea, 3 cases =)
sam 24/02/20 12:53 pm im going to ask g3 for a daily issues list
sam 24/02/20 12:53 pm and a column for how long the issue has been
on the list
iBLAMEj00 24/02/20 12:53 pm Heh
sam 24/02/20 12:53 pm and ask for accountability
sam 24/02/20 12:53 pm seriously
iBLAMEj00 24/02/20 12:53 pm That's why I sent out some cases, to see how
long it took =)
iBLAMEj00 24/02/20 12:54 pm What's really ghey is that if I just had root
access I could fix many little things myself,
but I don't get a reply to that =)
iBLAMEj00 24/02/20 12:54 pm Mind you, I'm the only one on my server
sam 24/02/20 12:55 pm ill ask g3 to see if they can make an
exception for that for u
sam 24/02/20 12:55 pm did u see the email
iBLAMEj00 24/02/20 12:55 pm looking at it now.
sam 24/02/20 12:55 pm shoould i let celebs.cz walk or try to
convince them
sam 24/02/20 12:55 pm cuz im 100% positive i can convince them to
stay :)
iBLAMEj00 24/02/20 12:57 pm How long have they been using
http://celebs.efront.com/ ?
iBLAMEj00 24/02/20 1:00 pm Get me 5Mbps on a server in tiwain and we
could get rid of mame.dk
iBLAMEj00 24/02/20 1:01 pm Or another country with no copyright laws.
sam 24/02/20 1:01 pm really.. how would u get all their users
sam 24/02/20 1:01 pm celebs.efront.. probably since the cais move
iBLAMEj00 24/02/20 1:02 pm Well, everyone that knows mame.dk knows my
site.
iBLAMEj00 24/02/20 1:02 pm The reason they go to mame.dk is because they
have downloads working, while mine have been
broken for almost a month (and really crippled
while at cais).
iBLAMEj00 24/02/20 1:03 pm I have about 5 times the content they have,
all I need is some server support.
iBLAMEj00 24/02/20 1:03 pm If you notice, mame.dk's traffic has gone up
as I have had problem after problem.
iBLAMEj00 24/02/20 1:04 pm With a server in Tiwain, bandwidth, and a
little tech support, they would flock.
sam 24/02/20 1:04 pm what about @ s4r.. what would u need there
iBLAMEj00 24/02/20 1:05 pm ftp
sam 24/02/20 1:05 pm ftp access
sam 24/02/20 1:05 pm ?
sam 24/02/20 1:05 pm is that it
iBLAMEj00 24/02/20 1:05 pm Maybe more RAM or some network changes.
iBLAMEj00 24/02/20 1:05 pm ftp for downloads instead of http.
sam 24/02/20 1:05 pm aha.. whats the diff
iBLAMEj00 24/02/20 1:05 pm The amount of RAM required to download.
iBLAMEj00 24/02/20 1:06 pm ftp can handle 700 downloads, http can't.
iBLAMEj00 24/02/20 1:06 pm I lost a server and ftp downloads during the
move.
iBLAMEj00 24/02/20 1:07 pm It's amazing I have any traffic.
sam 24/02/20 1:08 pm your traffic hasnt gone down though
iBLAMEj00 24/02/20 1:09 pm Yea, because I've been faking people out,
trying to keep them a little while longer.
sam 24/02/20 1:10 pm what was the excuse they gave for not enabling
ftp
sam 24/02/20 1:10 pm btw, will we be able to display ads if they
ftp
iBLAMEj00 24/02/20 1:10 pm No reply.
iBLAMEj00 24/02/20 1:10 pm There's no loss in ads with ftp.
iBLAMEj00 24/02/20 1:12 pm 45. www.celebs.cz 3,198 4,328 26,064
iBLAMEj00 24/02/20 1:12 pm I can't find a time when they had any kind of
serious traffic.
sam 24/02/20 1:13 pm and celebs4all is same too
iBLAMEj00 24/02/20 1:13 pm celebfoto has been up for 2 days and it's
doing on average 28,451 page views a day.
sam 24/02/20 1:13 pm heh
sam 24/02/20 1:13 pm how r u driing traffic to it
sam 24/02/20 1:13 pm are u sure most of those pv's arent yours :)
iBLAMEj00 24/02/20 1:14 pm Hey, some are mine, I admit =)
iBLAMEj00 24/02/20 1:14 pm I've got 50-60 thousand horny guys a day going
to my site.
sam 24/02/20 1:15 pm are u doing it through aah
iBLAMEj00 24/02/20 1:15 pm It's easy to get traffic through some
cross-promotion and cheating on some top sites
=)
sam 24/02/20 1:15 pm what other emu sites do we hvae besides aah
sam 24/02/20 1:15 pm lets combine it all
sam 24/02/20 1:15 pm why is emux so popular
sam 24/02/20 1:15 pm it was down for 2 weeks
iBLAMEj00 24/02/20 1:16 pm emux.com
sam 24/02/20 1:16 pm and not much loss of traffic
iBLAMEj00 24/02/20 1:16 pm Because their downloads are working?
sam 24/02/20 1:17 pm no..but the harddrivers were in a box for 2
weeks
iBLAMEj00 24/02/20 1:17 pm I think they have a message board following
also.
sam 24/02/20 1:17 pm completely down
sam 24/02/20 1:17 pm and back up .. same traffic.. weird
iBLAMEj00 24/02/20 1:17 pm Because if you give people what they want,
they will come.
iBLAMEj00 24/02/20 1:18 pm I can't give them what they want is all.
sam 24/02/20 1:18 pm can we get free srvers in taiwan or something?
like mirror place.. like how nonags does it..
maybe steal their mirror :
sam 24/02/20 1:18 pm or email them :)
iBLAMEj00 24/02/20 1:19 pm I have no idea how that would be done. I
don't know how you could steal 5GB and 5Mbps+
iBLAMEj00 24/02/20 1:20 pm I'm totally in the dark about these issues, so
I just e-mail or message every few days and
get no reply.
sam 24/02/20 1:20 pm you mean efront tech support huh?
sam 24/02/20 1:20 pm well ill need to try to get it straighted out
sam 24/02/20 1:21 pm we need to kill mame
sam 24/02/20 1:21 pm and consolidate all emu stuff in one:)
iBLAMEj00 24/02/20 1:21 pm I mean Nate/Matt.
sam 24/02/20 1:21 pm i kicked them out of tech support.. theyre all
pissed off
sam 24/02/20 1:21 pm so we'll have to do it through g3 & s4r
iBLAMEj00 24/02/20 1:21 pm Nate helped get the server up at first, then
Matt helped out a little when he got back,
they they both like died.
sam 24/02/20 1:22 pm matt went back to canada 2 days ago
iBLAMEj00 24/02/20 1:22 pm Heh
sam 24/02/20 1:22 pm nate has been copying cais drives and shipping
it back
sam 24/02/20 1:22 pm cuz they're threatening the cops on us
sam 24/02/20 1:22 pm actually they filed charges or somet shit
iBLAMEj00 24/02/20 1:22 pm Yea, I figured they were busy with stuff.
sam 24/02/20 1:22 pm fucker
iBLAMEj00 24/02/20 1:23 pm The problem with ROMs is the IDSA.
sam 24/02/20 1:23 pm whats that
iBLAMEj00 24/02/20 1:23 pm That's why making it off-shore is a good
thing.
sam 24/02/20 1:23 pm legal crap?
sam 24/02/20 1:23 pm how aboutin australia
iBLAMEj00 24/02/20 1:24 pm They represent the gaming companies.
iBLAMEj00 24/02/20 1:24 pm The IDSA only represents the US
sam 24/02/20 1:24 pm i mean hosting in australia
iBLAMEj00 24/02/20 1:24 pm Anything off-shore would work.
sam 24/02/20 1:25 pm ok i put in a msg to swedie (demonews guy)
iBLAMEj00 24/02/20 1:25 pm Tiwain is best because you could add Dreamcast
games and that would still be legal.
sam 24/02/20 1:25 pm he said we can get free bandwidth + storage in
australia
sam 24/02/20 1:25 pm all we have to do is buy the disk and ship it
to them
sam 24/02/20 1:25 pm planetmirror.com or something
iBLAMEj00 24/02/20 1:26 pm The content changes like every couple days.
iBLAMEj00 24/02/20 1:26 pm And if it's a link that other sites can link
to, our traffic will dry up.
sam 24/02/20 1:26 pm u mean @ planetmirror?
iBLAMEj00 24/02/20 1:27 pm Also, if we can't control it and put limits on
things, it will get out of hand and either
they will cancel us or the bandwidth will be
too slow.
sam 24/02/20 1:28 pm ya.. whats the cheapest places in taiwan then
iBLAMEj00 24/02/20 1:28 pm I only talked to one place, expensive, but I
haven't talked them down yet.
iBLAMEj00 24/02/20 1:28 pm They wanted like $2k/month for the server and
like $5k/month for bandwidth.
iBLAMEj00 24/02/20 1:29 pm But they are the highest quality, brand new
140,000 sq ft building.
iBLAMEj00 24/02/20 1:37 pm The demonews guy hasn't even talked to
planetmirror yet.
sam 24/02/20 1:37 pm heh.. hey he told me buy him a hard disk or
wahtever
sam 24/02/20 1:37 pm sorry
iBLAMEj00 24/02/20 1:38 pm He's clueless. What's in it for planetmirror?
sam 24/02/20 1:38 pm idunno.. i didnt investigate:)
iBLAMEj00 24/02/20 1:38 pm I can't see how they could make money just
giving bandwidth and server usage away =)
iBLAMEj00 24/02/20 1:39 pm From their site:
"As the premier mirror operator in Asia, we
currently host content on a fee-for-service
basis for companies that require a robust
solution for hosting their Internet archives."
iBLAMEj00 24/02/20 1:40 pm That says "fee-for-service", not
free-for-service.
sam 24/02/20 1:40 pm heh
iBLAMEj00 24/02/20 1:40 pm No wonder they didn't reply to him.
iBLAMEj00 24/02/20 1:41 pm "Yea, like I want to send you a drive so you
can host it under your free-for-service
program."
sam 24/02/20 1:41 pm wht do u expect from euroes:)
iBLAMEj00 24/02/20 1:43 pm I'm asking him the big question now.
iBLAMEj00 24/02/20 1:43 pm "iBLAMEj00: What was in it for them?"
iBLAMEj00 24/02/20 1:43 pm I'm going to guess the answer is "I don't
know".
sam 24/02/20 1:43 pm "my buddy works there"
iBLAMEj00 24/02/20 1:44 pm Heh
iBLAMEj00 24/02/20 1:44 pm OMG
iBLAMEj00 24/02/20 1:44 pm Swedie - Demonews: I was atleast going to
supply them a hdd with the content.
They actually said that .. I could be hosted
for free. He first showed me a bunch of
numbers (money) .. but I said.. "hey. I can't
afford that" and he .. agreed and let me use
their bandwidth if i just got them a hdd.
iBLAMEj00 24/02/20 1:45 pm Heh
iBLAMEj00 24/02/20 1:45 pm I think they just wanted a free hard drive.
sam 24/02/20 1:46 pm haha
iBLAMEj00 24/02/20 1:46 pm That sounds EXACTLY like the conversation I
had when I purchased my last car.
sam 24/02/20 1:46 pm we should do that
"we'll buy your site.. if it has a server"
iBLAMEj00 24/02/20 1:47 pm I said I wanted that car and he gave me a
bunch of numbers, I said I couldn't afford
that so it said he could give me the car for
free if I sent my wife to him to "pick it up".
iBLAMEj00 24/02/20 1:48 pm I think I just made another euro friend.
sam 24/02/20 1:48 pm he's talkative :)
iBLAMEj00 24/02/20 1:48 pm I said "iBLAMEj00: Ever think that maybe they
just wanted a free hard drive?" and he hasn't
replied =)
iBLAMEj00 24/02/20 1:49 pm I think he just realized that I called him an
idiot.
iBLAMEj00 24/02/20 1:49 pm Actually, let me try to get him to send me a
hard drive also...
sam 24/02/20 1:49 pm Actually, i just laughed at him after i fwd
your messages
sam 24/02/20 1:50 pm so i called him a clown
iBLAMEj00 24/02/20 1:50 pm iBLAMEj00: How much bandwidth do you need?
iBLAMEj00: Cause I've got extra bandwidth
here, just send me a hard drive and I'll host
it for you for free.
iBLAMEj00 24/02/20 1:50 pm You and your message forwarding =)
sam 24/02/20 1:51 pm its no fun to laugh alone
iBLAMEj00 24/02/20 1:51 pm Heh
iBLAMEj00 24/02/20 1:51 pm I think he set me to ignore.
sam 24/02/20 1:51 pm more fun to laugh at the funee if the funee is
aware he is being made fun of
sam 24/02/20 1:51 pm really.. he's online:)
iBLAMEj00 24/02/20 1:51 pm I just deleted him from my contact list.
sam 24/02/20 1:52 pm shit
sam 24/02/20 1:52 pm i shouldnt have lauhed at hime
sam 24/02/20 1:52 pm i was trying to get him to sign the 2cpmU
contract
iBLAMEj00 24/02/20 1:53 pm heh
iBLAMEj00 24/02/20 1:53 pm He thinks I'm serious.
iBLAMEj00 24/02/20 1:53 pm Swedie: I'm doing 4-5 TB a month on my
ftp.demonews.com .. but if I would use 1
second FTP I believe I wouldn't be doing more
than maybe 400 GB on it.
Would that be ok?
iBLAMEj00 24/02/20 1:53 pm iBLAMEj00: Sure, how big is the drive?
sam 24/02/20 1:54 pm sam: (9:48 PM) hahahahahahahhahahah
Swedie: (9:52 PM) HAHAHA! Well. I'll talk
further with those guys and make sure they're
no phony.. ness in it.
sam: (9:53 PM) that is so funny :)
sam: (9:53 PM) hey can i have a free harddrive
:)
iBLAMEj00 24/02/20 2:00 pm Swedie: I think 10 or 15Gb. I haven't bough
thte hdd yet.
iBLAMEj00: Make it 15GB and send it to me.
sam 24/02/20 2:01 pm Swedie: (10:00 PM) Blame here says he can host
bandwidth on his site. Could you please get
HIM a hdd? A 10-15 GB one. Costs 130-150
dollars.
Swedie: (10:00 PM) Make it 15Gb he says. So
please get me a 15Gb hdd to send to him.
sam: (10:01 PM) ok ill ship it tomorrow
sam 24/02/20 2:01 pm Swedie: (10:01 PM) Tomorrow Sunday? .. monday
you mean?
sam 24/02/20 2:02 pm sam: (10:02 PM) tomorrow is tuesday here
iBLAMEj00 24/02/20 2:02 pm Heh
iBLAMEj00 24/02/20 2:02 pm Euros think it's like Saturday or something.
sam 24/02/20 2:02 pm sam: (10:02 PM) you're in sweden right? 2 days
behind
iBLAMEj00 24/02/20 2:03 pm More like 15 years behind.
sam 24/02/20 2:03 pm Swedie: (10:02 PM) haha! you little :-)
sam: (10:02 PM) what?
sam: (10:03 PM) 2 days behind in the head
sam: (10:03 PM) :)
sam 24/02/20 2:04 pm Swedie: (10:04 PM) Btw, we here in Sweden are
actually ahead of you. With 9 hours or so.
Freak .. go to bed. I think it's late for you.
Your mom don't like that you sit up this late
and downloading porn.
Just kidding. :-)))))
sam 24/02/20 2:04 pm i think he's gtting mad:)
sam 24/02/20 2:04 pm he wants a job @ the efront help desk
sam 24/02/20 2:04 pm tech support
sam 24/02/20 2:04 pm i told him tot alk to g3
iBLAMEj00 24/02/20 2:04 pm Heh
sam 24/02/20 2:05 pm will it have an additive or dilutive effect on
the current performance?
iBLAMEj00 24/02/20 2:05 pm G3 asked if I could be a level 2 support
person. I replied that I can't even fix my
own problems so there's no way I could fix
anyone else's problems.
sam 24/02/20 2:06 pm wtf is level2
iBLAMEj00 24/02/20 2:06 pm Who knows.
iBLAMEj00 24/02/20 2:06 pm His e-mail has like 4 different level 2's
iBLAMEj00 24/02/20 2:06 pm Did you get the e-mail?
sam 24/02/20 2:06 pm doesnt every one of his email have 4 diff
levels
sam 24/02/20 2:07 pm nah, i dont care to..
g3 is here to confuse the webmasters so they
dont complain about real issues:)
iBLAMEj00 24/02/20 2:07 pm Heh, and he's doing an EXCELLENT job.
iBLAMEj00 24/02/20 2:11 pm Hahaha
iBLAMEj00 24/02/20 2:11 pm http://www.celebfoto.com/babes/toppics.phtml
iBLAMEj00 24/02/20 2:11 pm The number 1 and number 7 picture are there
because people think they are showing bush in
the thumbnail.
sam 24/02/20 2:15 pm heh
iBLAMEj00 24/02/20 2:16 pm It doesn kinda look like it.
sam 24/02/20 2:16 pm whats wrong with the stupid hearme
banner..geez
iBLAMEj00 24/02/20 2:16 pm I know I just noticed that.
sam 24/02/20 2:16 pm i got an idea.. remember hebus?
iBLAMEj00 24/02/20 2:16 pm Yea
sam 24/02/20 2:16 pm can you use babelfish or wahtever.. and make
french and diff. country versions
sam 24/02/20 2:17 pm like dont traslate on the fly
sam 24/02/20 2:17 pm but make real other country versions
iBLAMEj00 24/02/20 2:17 pm Heh
iBLAMEj00 24/02/20 2:17 pm Would be easy.
sam 24/02/20 2:17 pm then we can take allof hebus traffic and kick
him out
sam 24/02/20 2:17 pm and french and swedish and uk and german
trafficpays more:)
iBLAMEj00 24/02/20 2:17 pm Do this, go to babe-site.com
iBLAMEj00 24/02/20 2:18 pm And then go to babe-pix.com
sam 24/02/20 2:18 pm heh
iBLAMEj00 24/02/20 2:18 pm Forget that the top logo is the same, notice
how the title is changed.
iBLAMEj00 24/02/20 2:18 pm What's better than 1 celeb site? 3 celeb
sites =)
sam 24/02/20 2:19 pm do they have diff celebs in them
iBLAMEj00 24/02/20 2:19 pm There's not much that's english on the site
anyway.
sam 24/02/20 2:19 pm heck, create our own babynames.com then
sam 24/02/20 2:19 pm and kick her out
sam 24/02/20 2:19 pm she's being a bitch
iBLAMEj00 24/02/20 2:19 pm Babynames would be like a day project.
sam 24/02/20 2:20 pm how about the traffic
sam 24/02/20 2:20 pm would that be hard to attract
sam 24/02/20 2:20 pm baby-names.com?
sam 24/02/20 2:20 pm nah
sam 24/02/20 2:20 pm hmm
iBLAMEj00 24/02/20 2:20 pm Yea, but we could do a press-release =)
sam 24/02/20 2:20 pm babynames.efront.com :)
iBLAMEj00 24/02/20 2:20 pm Right, who needs a domain =)
sam 24/02/20 2:20 pm yeah.. how do we get the traffic though :)
iBLAMEj00 24/02/20 2:21 pm Pay for it, cheat, etc.
sam 24/02/20 2:21 pm we could probably kick everyone out
sam 24/02/20 2:21 pm and get a netowkr
sam 24/02/20 2:21 pm without paying anyone
sam 24/02/20 2:21 pm huh
iBLAMEj00 24/02/20 2:21 pm now you're thinking.
sam 24/02/20 2:22 pm scott.. what about his site
iBLAMEj00 24/02/20 2:22 pm That's a complex site, lots of stuff.
iBLAMEj00 24/02/20 2:22 pm And it's not static, new stuff to add all the
time.
iBLAMEj00 24/02/20 2:23 pm A better thing to merge is the top sites.
iBLAMEj00 24/02/20 2:24 pm Many sites, like top sites, celeb sites,
babynames, etc don't require you to mess with
it daily.
sam 24/02/20 2:24 pm yeah
sam 24/02/20 2:24 pm wanna see something
sam 24/02/20 2:25 pm http://www.efront.com/hardrocksportstabs.jpg
sam 24/02/20 2:25 pm yes it will be variable width
sam 24/02/20 2:25 pm the banners jump and rotate
sam 24/02/20 2:25 pm on every pageview refresh
sam 24/02/20 2:26 pm the content cells and ad cells are one and the
same..
sam 24/02/20 2:26 pm meaning they go together.. there is no
delineated columns per se
sam 24/02/20 2:26 pm every cell willhave the following options:
border, no border
title, no title
background, no background
sam 24/02/20 2:27 pm we'll get a php random# generator @ in each
page.. and that will turn on or off one or two
of the 4 possibe banners or somehing
iBLAMEj00 24/02/20 2:28 pm Yea, I think you showed me that a day or two
ago.
sam 24/02/20 2:28 pm what would be really cool is if there were
like 4 permutations so the content or ad block
modules could be arranged to make it look
good.. and the randomizeer pickes each one
sam 24/02/20 2:28 pm yeah.. little bit differnt.. added search,
using same logo as current site
sam 24/02/20 2:28 pm we'll get rid of the 'line after the logo'..
too yahooish
sam 24/02/20 2:28 pm do you have any comments? here's the way we'll
implement it:
iBLAMEj00 24/02/20 2:28 pm Very
sam 24/02/20 2:29 pm next week:
sam 24/02/20 2:29 pm we'll go in and modify 10 pages of each site..
(tech sites only next week)
sam 24/02/20 2:29 pm and/or have the webmasters do it.
kevin b. and lowtax will do that
sam 24/02/20 2:29 pm the webmasters will probably have to do the
rest of the pages themselves.. :)
iBLAMEj00 24/02/20 2:29 pm 10 pages of each site?
sam 24/02/20 2:29 pm 10 most highly trafficked pages
sam 24/02/20 2:30 pm they will be stuck
sam 24/02/20 2:30 pm with two designs
sam 24/02/20 2:30 pm if they dont convert the rest of them :)
sam 24/02/20 2:30 pm that will make it fast for us to do alot of
sites
sam 24/02/20 2:30 pm of course, not too complex of a site
sam 24/02/20 2:30 pm cuz then we'll have to get the webmasters
involved
iBLAMEj00 24/02/20 2:30 pm Heh, I welcome you to do all my pages =)
sam 24/02/20 2:31 pm heh.. we'll let u do ur own :)
sam 24/02/20 2:31 pm soooo
sam 24/02/20 2:31 pm what do u think??
sam 24/02/20 2:31 pm and you thought *.efront.com was bad
sam 24/02/20 2:31 pm we'll redo their site to look like efront heh
sam 24/02/20 2:32 pm 1. will we lose traffic
thats all that really matter
sam 24/02/20 2:32 pm 2. will revenues increase
bottom line
iBLAMEj00 24/02/20 2:32 pm 3. Build brand identity.
sam 24/02/20 2:33 pm yea
so any inputs? suggestions? tweaks? feedbck?
sam 24/02/20 2:33 pm if not, we're going to get the tech sites live
next week or two :)
iBLAMEj00 24/02/20 2:33 pm Yea, I have no idea what content will go in
what cells.
sam 24/02/20 2:33 pm ohhh
sam 24/02/20 2:33 pm another thing
sam 24/02/20 2:34 pm a cell can contain another cell
sam 24/02/20 2:34 pm so that means that a cell that has article can
contain another cell
sam 24/02/20 2:34 pm ala news.com biggie ads
sam 24/02/20 2:34 pm so your articles or news sections could have
other stuff:)
iBLAMEj00 24/02/20 2:34 pm Nice theory.
sam 24/02/20 2:35 pm and i dont care how long the pages are
anymore.. we'll just put more cells within
cells
sam 24/02/20 2:35 pm like voodooextreme
sam 24/02/20 2:35 pm we could put a cell within a cell like every
2-3 rows
sam 24/02/20 2:35 pm cuz pageviews dont matter
sam 24/02/20 2:35 pm we're going perf based
sam 24/02/20 2:35 pm AND
sam 24/02/20 2:35 pm banner ads will be integrated
sam 24/02/20 2:35 pm within the sites
sam 24/02/20 2:35 pm so that when we have our own intenral banner
ads.. like the monkey ad
sam 24/02/20 2:35 pm if it had a drop down box or something
sam 24/02/20 2:35 pm it would get 30% clickthru easy :)
sam 24/02/20 2:36 pm and if it was relevant
sam 24/02/20 2:49 pm i do see a problem.. how do we make it
variable width.. with the different cells in
there
sam 24/02/20 2:49 pm do we make each cell variable or what.. weird
iBLAMEj00 24/02/20 2:51 pm That's the problem it's not well thought out.
iBLAMEj00 24/02/20 2:51 pm It will be deployed in a limited manor and
will have to change and new scripts will be
needed.
sam 24/02/20 2:51 pm because of ur stupid variable width
requirement
sam 24/02/20 2:51 pm yeah
iBLAMEj00 24/02/20 2:52 pm They just make it 1600 width.
sam 24/02/20 2:52 pm how do u mean
sam 24/02/20 2:52 pm i wish we could have someone develop a simple
content mgmt system that uses this
sam 24/02/20 2:52 pm like using php or something
iBLAMEj00 24/02/20 2:52 pm I mean you can't just make it 640 wide or 1600
wide, it doesn't work on either browser,
that's why you have to make it variable.
sam 24/02/20 2:53 pm i know.. i was kidding
sam 24/02/20 2:53 pm of course, variable makes total sense.. its
still ur stupid idea:)
iBLAMEj00 24/02/20 2:53 pm Heh
sam 24/02/20 2:53 pm seriously, what about having someone do
sam 24/02/20 2:53 pm a php backend
sam 24/02/20 2:53 pm man if we did that, we can crank out 100 babe
site so fast
iBLAMEj00 24/02/20 2:53 pm That's what I assumed you were talking about.
sam 24/02/20 2:53 pm heh no
iBLAMEj00 24/02/20 2:53 pm You can't do it html.
sam 24/02/20 2:53 pm i was thinking that
sam 24/02/20 2:54 pm really
sam 24/02/20 2:54 pm aw
sam 24/02/20 2:54 pm i was thinking just use the same backend as
now
sam 24/02/20 2:54 pm that all the sites uses
iBLAMEj00 24/02/20 2:54 pm What backend is that?
sam 24/02/20 2:54 pm individual ones
sam 24/02/20 2:54 pm just cuz i dont know anyone who can do a good
job
sam 24/02/20 2:54 pm of creating one cheaply and fast
sam 24/02/20 2:55 pm we could so much with one backend..
clustering, loadbalancing, less machines, etc
sam 24/02/20 2:55 pm matt's probably the only one we have that can
do it.. but he's not reliable
sam 24/02/20 2:55 pm hmm..any ideas?
iBLAMEj00 24/02/20 2:55 pm Hey, this is your project, not mine. I've
already stated that I've talked to lots of
companies out there and it's a TALL order.
sam 24/02/20 2:56 pm well, ok screw it.. we'll use the 100 diff b
ackends we have
iBLAMEj00 24/02/20 2:56 pm Heh, you keep saying backends. But the sites
you are talking about don't have a backend
system in place.
sam 24/02/20 2:56 pm i could write it
"insert header"
"insert menu (site name1)
"cell1()
cell2()
cell3()
iBLAMEj00 24/02/20 2:56 pm If the site is all html, there isn't a
backend.
sam 24/02/20 2:56 pm ok never mind:)
sam 24/02/20 2:57 pm yeah there is
sam 24/02/20 2:57 pm html is a backend :) vanilla:)
iBLAMEj00 24/02/20 2:57 pm That's not a backend.
sam 24/02/20 2:57 pm but like i looked at 12 tech sites to get
started
iBLAMEj00 24/02/20 2:57 pm A backend is like a set of scripts that is
used to maintain the site.
sam 24/02/20 2:57 pm win98central uses php
athlonmb uses coldfusion
sam 24/02/20 2:58 pm geeknews uses perl
sam 24/02/20 2:58 pm 2 of the sites were just shtml (ssi)
sam 24/02/20 2:58 pm etc
iBLAMEj00 24/02/20 2:58 pm php, coldfusion and perl are not backends.
sam 24/02/20 2:58 pm yeah.. its obvious though that the languages
would have scripts associated with them
iBLAMEj00 24/02/20 2:59 pm Right, so in the sites that you mentioned, you
wouldn't be redoing pages, you would be
recoding scripts.
sam 24/02/20 2:59 pm yep
iBLAMEj00 24/02/20 3:00 pm Did you ever have a site?
sam 24/02/20 3:00 pm so an alternative is to use a standard
php-written simple sets of scripts that uses a
web interface to update the cell content (for
the editors)
sam 24/02/20 3:00 pm no heh
sam 24/02/20 3:00 pm i get my knowledge from dack.com
iBLAMEj00 24/02/20 3:00 pm Heh
iBLAMEj00 24/02/20 3:00 pm Well, when they start doing it, let me know, I
want to watch the show =)
iBLAMEj00 24/02/20 3:01 pm The entertainment value will be priceless.
sam 24/02/20 3:01 pm what, to recode scripts?
iBLAMEj00 24/02/20 3:01 pm Yea
sam 24/02/20 3:01 pm the only thing that will change is the layout
iBLAMEj00 24/02/20 3:01 pm Heh, you make it sound so easy =)
sam 24/02/20 3:02 pm wasnt babe-pix written in 1 hr
sam 24/02/20 3:02 pm enough said:)
sam 24/02/20 3:02 pm obviously you hae a set of scripts that u can
use to create 100 babe sites
sam 24/02/20 3:02 pm same layout
sam 24/02/20 3:02 pm heh
sam 24/02/20 3:02 pm tahts what we want to do with efront sites:)
iBLAMEj00 24/02/20 3:03 pm Right, now try to change the layout, that's
about 10times harder than designing it.
iBLAMEj00 24/02/20 3:04 pm Then take a bunch of mature sites that have
had time to build script after script and it's
a nightmare.
sam 24/02/20 3:05 pm hence we do 10 pages.. and the webmaster will
be forced to do the rest of the pages:)
sam 24/02/20 3:06 pm so we get their cooperation ..unless they get
so pissed they dont care bout the site anymore
:)
iBLAMEj00 24/02/20 3:08 pm Well, doing page one is the difficult one.
iBLAMEj00 24/02/20 3:08 pm Getting it to work with the rest of the
scripts on the site.
iBLAMEj00 24/02/20 3:09 pm It's not like you can just redo 10 pages and
then do the rest later.
sam 24/02/20 3:09 pm hm.. ok so any solutions? or just grunt work?
iBLAMEj00 24/02/20 3:09 pm It doesn't work that way.
sam 24/02/20 3:09 pm well i got that idea from this email..
iBLAMEj00 24/02/20 3:09 pm You change the header, all pages change.
sam 24/02/20 3:09 pm well sure.. if the website is scriptdriven
sam 24/02/20 3:10 pm but not all
sam 24/02/20 3:10 pm but not all are
iBLAMEj00 24/02/20 3:14 pm All the sites you mention are.
sam 24/02/20 3:15 pm do u think most of our sites are
iBLAMEj00 24/02/20 3:15 pm Most sites use header and footer files at
least.
iBLAMEj00 24/02/20 3:16 pm I think you are going to get some front pages
that are a subset of what they were before
beacuse it's too difficult to add more than
just basic things.
iBLAMEj00 24/02/20 3:17 pm So even the first 10 won't be complete, just
examples.
sam 24/02/20 3:17 pm really? hm.. kevin didnt mentino any of these
issues when we talked this afternoon .. maybe
he didnt think of it?
iBLAMEj00 24/02/20 3:17 pm What I would do is take a site that wants to
be redesigned anyway and focus on just them.
And learn from it before you even consider
rolling it out.
sam 24/02/20 3:18 pm well we're certainly going to do our own sites
first.. like freeware32.com .. and easy ones..
and small ones like gpu3d.com
iBLAMEj00 24/02/20 3:18 pm emusphere.com wants a redesign.
iBLAMEj00 24/02/20 3:19 pm I'm sure some will be easy.
iBLAMEj00 25/02/20 12:45 am By the way, I got Adrox of emusphere.com to
add the sidebar.
sam 25/02/20 1:30 am thats a good idea on the script stuff!
iBLAMEj00 25/02/20 1:30 am Oh, you got the e-mail?
sam 25/02/20 1:31 am no, i read your mind
iBLAMEj00 25/02/20 1:31 am Even better.
iBLAMEj00 25/02/20 1:31 am http://www.fuckedcompany.com/
iBLAMEj00 25/02/20 1:31 am Read the top story
iBLAMEj00 25/02/20 1:32 am I've started removing my StoreRunner links.
There's no way they will pay us at this point.
sam 25/02/20 1:32 am ya.. i talked to their cfo yesterday
we could buy them if we wanted to
sam 25/02/20 1:32 am need a little cash :)
sam 25/02/20 1:32 am we're their top creditor
sam 25/02/20 1:32 am AND
sam 25/02/20 1:32 am they have 60 mil in CBS advertising money
sam 25/02/20 1:32 am we're on the credit committee
sam 25/02/20 1:33 am i'd rather pile up more money :)
iBLAMEj00 25/02/20 1:36 am So maybe we get a few million in CBS
advertising in exchange for the money they owe
us =)
sam 25/02/20 1:37 am and run your banner on t?
sam 25/02/20 1:37 am tv
iBLAMEj00 25/02/20 1:37 am Heh
iBLAMEj00 25/02/20 1:38 am CBS just exchanged part ownership for ad time.
sam 25/02/20 1:38 am ya i know.. 50% for 100 mil ad time
iBLAMEj00 25/02/20 1:39 am That's why there were so many of those stupid
storerunner ads with those fat people in tight
outfits.
iBLAMEj00 25/02/20 1:39 am I don't get how they could be losing money.
iBLAMEj00 25/02/20 1:40 am They use 40 million in TV ads to build a brand
name, we send them visitors, they get paid by
their merchants.
iBLAMEj00 25/02/20 1:41 am If I was them, I would have had all their
merchants pre-pay them.
iBLAMEj00 25/02/20 1:41 am Then there's no way they could lose money.
iBLAMEj00 25/02/20 1:41 am And they had some good accounts, like Sears
and K-Mart.
sam 25/02/20 1:42 am i have all their financials:)
iBLAMEj00 25/02/20 1:44 am They probably have too much overhead and had
too much startup money to burn, so the did.
sam 25/02/20 1:46 am 550k left in the bank
800k owe to creditors (we're the top @ 150k i
think)
400k /month expenses
200k/month revenues (60% from clicks, 40% from
banner sales)
3 mil note owed to cbs
they'll probably have to give severance to the
100 ppl laid off (1-2 mil$)
sam 25/02/20 1:54 am that looks great though.. the scripts
do u know who can implement the modules
sam 25/02/20 1:54 am design/code/test the modules
sam 25/02/20 2:01 am http://news.cnet.com/news/0-1005-200-4931077.h
ml?tag=tp_pr
iBLAMEj00 25/02/20 2:03 am They would probably have to be written 4
times, in php, perl, coldfusion, and asp.
sam 25/02/20 2:03 am what about just doing it in php
iBLAMEj00 25/02/20 2:04 am But, we could start with php, and then do the
conversions once the php stuff is worked out.
iBLAMEj00 25/02/20 2:04 am If sites have scripts already written in other
languages, it may not work.
iBLAMEj00 25/02/20 2:05 am I don't think it would take any less time to
impliment back-end scripts like this than it
would to manually do pages on each site.
sam 25/02/20 2:05 am i like it because we have control then
sam 25/02/20 2:06 am but i was asking .. why do we have to use
coldfusion.. why cant we make everyone use php
sam 25/02/20 2:06 am because the only thing that will be different
is the cell module
sam 25/02/20 2:06 am for content..
sam 25/02/20 2:06 am is what they'll control
iBLAMEj00 25/02/20 2:06 am Right, and in those cells people have scripts.
sam 25/02/20 2:06 am and we'll control the header, footer, ad cell
modules
sam 25/02/20 2:06 am right.. and inside those cell, let them use
the current scripts.. who cares?
iBLAMEj00 25/02/20 2:06 am Each cell isn't just html.
sam 25/02/20 2:07 am im asking what needs to be converted
sam 25/02/20 2:07 am for example
sam 25/02/20 2:07 am your news item everyday
sam 25/02/20 2:07 am what would we have to convert there
iBLAMEj00 25/02/20 2:07 am But you can't just include a coldfusion script
from inside php and expect it to run.
sam 25/02/20 2:07 am of course u can
sam 25/02/20 2:08 am not like that i mean
iBLAMEj00 25/02/20 2:08 am You can include it, but will it run the
script?
sam 25/02/20 2:08 am its like an ssi exec
sam 25/02/20 2:08 am like an ssi include
iBLAMEj00 25/02/20 2:08 am You don't use ssi when you are using php.
sam 25/02/20 2:08 am its just cgi
sam 25/02/20 2:08 am heh
sam 25/02/20 2:08 am i thought we were going to do this:
sam 25/02/20 2:09 am make the outer layer ssi
each of the global modules we create would be
php
sam 25/02/20 2:09 am and the indivudal modules would be whatever
they are
iBLAMEj00 25/02/20 2:10 am I made the outer layer in php.
sam 25/02/20 2:10 am pro/con?
iBLAMEj00 25/02/20 2:10 am Don't know. I don't use any ssi.
sam 25/02/20 2:10 am but php can definitely exec other scripts
iBLAMEj00 25/02/20 2:10 am Yea it can, I just don't know what will have
to be done to do it.
iBLAMEj00 25/02/20 2:11 am asp is a different beast because it runs on
Windows.
sam 25/02/20 2:11 am maybe we can use this opportunity to convert
all the windows stuff to unix
iBLAMEj00 25/02/20 2:11 am Heh, you make it sound so easy =)
iBLAMEj00 25/02/20 2:12 am Like GameRankings is a huge mess of asp
scripts.
iBLAMEj00 25/02/20 2:12 am It would take a lifetime to convert it all to
a different language.
sam 25/02/20 2:12 am if the index page of allthe sites is php/unix
and if one of the modules run on windows..
cant php call the asp module on the windows
machine, let windows process the stuff, and
spit the data out to the cell modeul
iBLAMEj00 25/02/20 2:12 am Could be possible.
sam 25/02/20 2:12 am also wold we use css
iBLAMEj00 25/02/20 2:12 am I don't have any first-hand experience doing
that.
sam 25/02/20 2:12 am so if we ad an ad unit or wahtever,
sam 25/02/20 2:13 am the fonts and stuff would match the fonts
sam 25/02/20 2:13 am of the site
iBLAMEj00 25/02/20 2:13 am Still, we start with php, and then add support
for other languages if we need to.
iBLAMEj00 25/02/20 2:14 am Maybe perl and coldfusion will be a
no-brainer, I don't know.
iBLAMEj00 25/02/20 2:14 am But even if they have to be redone in those
languages, it would be easy to do once the php
stuff is already working.
sam 25/02/20 2:16 am i still like the idea of having all the
indexe's in php. ..and everything else is
modules:)
iBLAMEj00 25/02/20 2:17 am I think it could actually work if you did it
like I described.
iBLAMEj00 25/02/20 2:18 am I like the idea of having total control of the
layout. So you could change it and wouldn't
have to mess with any sites.
iBLAMEj00 25/02/20 2:19 am There would have to be guidelines as to what
kind of content would go in each cell.
iBLAMEj00 25/02/20 2:19 am Like on the format1 example I gave there were
4 cells.
sam 25/02/20 2:19 am yeah
sam 25/02/20 2:20 am ohhh how about this also:
iBLAMEj00 25/02/20 2:20 am #1 would be for the main page content, like an
article, #2 could be some kind of narrow
navigation or something etc.
sam 25/02/20 2:20 am if we have all the cells all encapsulated..
can we just put them in the body of the web
pageS?
cell1()
cell2()
cell3()
etc?
and each cell would just be
without fitting/layout/worrying bout how
things fit, etc with respect to size?
sam 25/02/20 2:20 am because isnt it true that the cells will just
wrap to the next line if they dont fit?
iBLAMEj00 25/02/20 2:20 am The first cell would always be the main
content, the one that's dymanic in width
depending on the window width.
iBLAMEj00 25/02/20 2:21 am I don't follow you.
iBLAMEj00 25/02/20 2:22 am The way I proposed, the php scripts that
eFront develops would be the thing that
controls the page layout.
sam 25/02/20 2:22 am basically.. instead of worrying about the size
of each cell,
iBLAMEj00 25/02/20 2:22 am What they stick in the cells doesn't really
matter.
sam 25/02/20 2:22 am just put the cells next to each
other..freeflow format
iBLAMEj00 25/02/20 2:22 am They would have to know, for example, that
cells 2+ could only be 150 pixels wide or
something.
sam 25/02/20 2:23 am
...(cell1) >
...(cell2) >
...(cell3) >
...(cell4) >
...(cell5) >
...(cell6) >
iBLAMEj00 25/02/20 2:32 am Maybe, it could be anything.
sam 25/02/20 2:33 am and noone would have to worry about layout..
the cells would automatically fit themselves
properly
iBLAMEj00 25/02/20 2:33 am cell1 and cell2 would probably be the main
content (in the center).
sam 25/02/20 2:33 am why
iBLAMEj00 25/02/20 2:33 am You don't get it =)
iBLAMEj00 25/02/20 2:33 am I'm calling it cell1-cell4
iBLAMEj00 25/02/20 2:34 am Those are the order that people use to enter
data.
iBLAMEj00 25/02/20 2:34 am Not the order or placement they are on the
page.
sam 25/02/20 2:34 am oh.. another problem is if cell1 is taller
than cell2.. yuk
iBLAMEj00 25/02/20 2:34 am Heh, no, you need an example.
sam 25/02/20 2:34 am maybe i should get that andy guy to create the
script..djpyro heh
iBLAMEj00 25/02/20 2:38 am You need someone who understands how sites
work to do it.
sam 25/02/20 2:38 am i dont know anyone :)
sam 25/02/20 2:43 am also if we centralize it, deployment of new
campaigns would be so easy
sam 25/02/20 2:43 am no dependance on webmasters:)
iBLAMEj00 25/02/20 2:43 am Right.
iBLAMEj00 25/02/20 2:43 am And we could tweak the design.
sam 25/02/20 2:43 am roy7: (10:43 AM) Well then you are entering
the realm of a content management system
sam 25/02/20 2:43 am didnt you say thats impossible.. content mgmt
system
sam 25/02/20 2:43 am do we want to do that
iBLAMEj00 25/02/20 2:47 am Not really
sam 25/02/20 2:47 am i think jonathan can code it for us
sam 25/02/20 2:47 am he's good w/ stuff like that
iBLAMEj00 25/02/20 2:47 am Because the sites have full control over the
content cells.
iBLAMEj00 25/02/20 2:48 am They don't need to submit everything to some
central database.
sam 25/02/20 2:49 am roy7: (10:48 AM) Right okay.
Was thinking maybe it'd be worth trying Zope
but maybe not.
sam 25/02/20 2:49 am what is zope
iBLAMEj00 25/02/20 2:49 am No clue.
iBLAMEj00 25/02/20 2:49 am Probably some content site management system.
sam 25/02/20 3:04 am hey did u ever send me the contract
iBLAMEj00 25/02/20 3:04 am No.
sam 25/02/20 3:05 am if we get a .25% ctr on sprinks, that 25cent
cpm networkwide.. 75k/mo..not bad
iBLAMEj00 25/02/20 3:16 am Swedie just got the fact that we were joking
with him about the hard drive.
iBLAMEj00 25/02/20 3:16 am He thinks you already purchased a drive and
sent it out to me.
sam 25/02/20 3:17 am i did
iBLAMEj00 25/02/20 3:17 am Heh
sam 25/02/20 3:17 am i told him to tell you that we'll deduct it
from ur pay :)
iBLAMEj00 25/02/20 3:17 am Heh
iBLAMEj00 25/02/20 3:17 am $0-$500=...
sam 25/02/20 3:18 am =-500.. means u owe another 500 ::)
sam 25/02/20 3:18 am tell him no way etc. and tell him to deduct
from his own pay.. let him get crossfired :)
sam 25/02/20 3:20 am Swedie: (11:19 AM) Blame says that "Sam was
also joking".
and now he says this:
"Sam said he already ordered the drive and
will deduct it from your pay."
My pay?
This has all gone very bad.
[shucks .. u shouldnt have told him i was
joking.. we couldve saved 300 bucks:)
iBLAMEj00 25/02/20 3:20 am Heh
iBLAMEj00 25/02/20 3:21 am I had already told him I was joking.
iBLAMEj00 25/02/20 3:21 am After he kept on believing it.
sam 25/02/20 3:21 am but u didnt say i was jo king:)
iBLAMEj00 25/02/20 3:21 am I was kind of sick of the joke on him =)
iBLAMEj00 25/02/20 3:21 am Yea I did.
sam 25/02/20 3:21 am i just told him you're trying to trick him and
steal the drive we ordered for him
iBLAMEj00 25/02/20 3:21 am "iBLAMEj00: Heh, Sam was joking also."
sam 25/02/20 3:21 am hehe
iBLAMEj00 25/02/20 3:22 am Now he's confused.
sam 25/02/20 3:22 am heh
iBLAMEj00 25/02/20 3:22 am (again)
iBLAMEj00 25/02/20 3:34 am Can you get whoever to send out payment on
Monday?
sam 25/02/20 3:35 am ya
iBLAMEj00 25/02/20 3:35 am Wire it I hope?
sam 25/02/20 3:36 am probably check then.. we're waiting on 150k
check from about right now.. they said they
sent it 2 days ago.. so it'll have to clear
iBLAMEj00 25/02/20 3:41 am Swedie: umm. did you just hack my computer?
iBLAMEj00: Yea.
iBLAMEj00 25/02/20 3:41 am iBLAMEj00: I'm playing with your fat tables.
sam 25/02/20 3:43 am Swedie (ICQ#20386173) Wrote:
what? you serious?
Yeah, he is really an odd person all right.
He's just plain weird.
sam 25/02/20 3:46 am sam: (11:41 AM) just be careful.. he is
notoroious hacker spy
sam: (11:42 AM) working for russians he told
me once
Swedie: (11:42 AM) haha! you an him are just
playing with me.
sam: (11:42 AM) seriously.. well dont say i
didnt warn you
Swedie: (11:44 AM) come on now. I can't
believe what you're saying. Russian spy?
wouldn't it be better if he came from India.
They got even greater hackers over there :-)
sam: (11:44 AM) but they dont hack ur computer
and mess with fat tables like they do in
russia
iBLAMEj00 25/02/20 3:47 am Swedie: Sam is an ass!! :-)
iBLAMEj00 25/02/20 3:47 am iBLAMEj00: Yea, Sam told me to h4x0r your
computer.
sam 25/02/20 3:52 am sam: (11:48 AM) so anyway.. what hsould i do
with this hard drive now?
Swedie: (11:48 AM) dunno
sam: (11:48 AM) do u think i can return it?
Swedie: (11:49 AM) don't know. I think you
should. Atleast if you bought it in a local
computer store.
sam: (11:49 AM) i ordered it from buy.com
Swedie: (11:50 AM) Oh.. then call them and
have it back ordered then. If you haven't
recieved it that is.
sam: (11:50 AM) do u think i can call them and
tell them to run their banners on demonews for
the month in exchange.. and call it even?
sam: (11:50 AM) they would like that.. to
promote their products i think, what do u
think
sam: (11:51 AM) and i can send u the hard disk
sam: (11:51 AM) and since you exchanged
banners for hard disk for month of march,
we're even
sam: (11:51 AM) cool?
Swedie: (11:51 AM) errrrr. if you think that
is possible.. then yeah.. ???
sam 25/02/20 3:52 am hehe
i cut his march payment to $100 bucks :)
iBLAMEj00 25/02/20 3:53 am Heh
sam 25/02/20 4:00 am Swedie: (11:51 AM) errrrr. if you think that
is possible.. then yeah.. ???
sam: (11:52 AM) yup. great.. ill do it
Swedie: (11:53 AM) NO! stop this. What the
heck are you saying?
Swedie: (11:56 AM) if you weren't joking
before. Put it up on that "blame" guy's bill.
Don't make me pay.
sam: (11:57 AM) im confused.. you keep
changing your mind
sam: (11:57 AM) im so frustrated
Swedie: (11:59 AM) no.. you're confusing me.
Who do you think is frustrated aftering seing
both you and Blame talking about the exactly
the same thing all the time and perfectly
matching your sentences to make me just more
confused.
Do not bill me anything. Do not put Buy.com
banners on my site.
You said you would put it on Blame's bill..
then do that.
sam 25/02/20 4:00 am okay.. maybe i had enough heh
sam 25/02/20 4:02 am sam: (12:00 PM) okay.. guess what
sam: (12:01 PM) Blame and Me are the same
person :) haha
Swedie: (12:01 PM) I had that one my mind!!!
Damn you. That's why I wrote "Sam is an ass!!!
:-)" .. just to see how you reacted.
You're so funny.. NOT! :-)
iBLAMEj00 25/02/20 4:06 am Heh
iBLAMEj00 25/02/20 4:15 am Swedie: Sam is gay. He's NOT funny.
iBLAMEj00: Yea I am.
iBLAMEj00: I mean yea he is.
iBLAMEj00 25/02/20 4:17 am This is damn cool:
http://www.altavista.com/cgi-bin/query?pg=r&n=
&i=OTiFgIC&m=19&u=favicon.com/
sam 25/02/20 4:20 am cool
hey how do i get his site working:
Swedie: (12:17 PM) hey.. you messing with
www.demonews.com ? it's not working.
iBLAMEj00 25/02/20 4:21 am I guess log a call to helpdesk@efront.com
iBLAMEj00 25/02/20 4:21 am Were you testing me?
sam 25/02/20 4:21 am no.. just figuring out what to do:)
sam 25/02/20 4:22 am because helpdesk.. marc isnt avaialbe in the
weekend.. i told g3 to create 911@efront.com
for after hour or weekend tech support
issues.. and send that to s4r directly.. and
cc helpdesk for later loggin
sam 25/02/20 4:23 am and thats not implemented yet i dont think
iBLAMEj00 25/02/20 4:23 am If his site is totally down, tell him to call
S4R
iBLAMEj00 25/02/20 4:28 am Swedie: Sam has revealed the little trick...
Are you a real person or can I delete this
user of my ICQ list?
iBLAMEj00: Delete, PLEASE
iBLAMEj00 25/02/20 5:03 am There, I made the celeb site look better.
iBLAMEj00 25/02/20 5:31 am Tell me what languages you want me to create
the site in.
iBLAMEj00 25/02/20 5:32 am It doesn't require multiple sites to be
created, just a different domain.
iBLAMEj00 25/02/20 5:33 am Just build a language table and then depending
on what domain or subdomain you access the
site with, it will lookup the correct language
table.
iBLAMEj00 25/02/20 5:33 am Then you could add additional languages in
like 5 minutes.
sam 25/02/20 9:12 am http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/50/16943.
tml
iBLAMEj00 25/02/20 9:17 am Send that to Harsha.
sam 25/02/20 9:18 am DigitalFury: (5:16 PM) yeah, i know, they sent
me that email too
sam: (5:16 PM) it freaking sux out there :/
Message was sent. User is Offline.
The message will be delivered when user
goes Online.
sam: (5:17 PM) are the servers running much
better now with s4r
DigitalFury: (5:17 PM) yep, it looks like
sam: (5:17 PM) nice.. we're making progress
too.. our revenues from banner is down to 35%
now from 90+% in december.. lot of red eyes
here
DigitalFury: (5:17 PM) well, i am not going to
say anything good about them cause everytime i
do they mess up... they are running fine for
now :)
sam 25/02/20 9:19 am DigitalFury: (5:18 PM) yeah... i am still
wondering how i am i going to pay taxes...
sam: (5:18 PM) i know how
DigitalFury: (5:18 PM) er...?!?
sam: (5:18 PM) i did it for someone else too
sam: (5:19 PM) i can reduce your taxes alot
DigitalFury: (5:19 PM) oh yes please!!!! how?
sam: (5:19 PM) how much was your income in
2000
sam 25/02/20 9:19 am heh.. i should get a job as a tax consultant
:)
iBLAMEj00 25/02/20 9:21 am And get thrown in jail =)
sam 25/02/20 9:21 am i have disclaimers:)
sam 25/02/20 9:26 am hey i shouldnt be saying him shit
sam 25/02/20 9:26 am guess what i told huim
sam 25/02/20 9:26 am i could get in trouble :)
sam 25/02/20 9:27 am sam: (5:26 PM) yeah.. i was going to say.. do
"long term" capital gains tax
sam: (5:26 PM) you can sell your contract to a
company in sri lanka
sam: (5:26 PM) or your father or someone u
know.. and we'd wire the money there
DigitalFury: (5:26 PM) yes, that's what i
pretty much did, i passed over the right of
the contract to my dad who's in Sri Lanka
sam: (5:27 PM) so how do u have taxes..
sam: (5:27 PM) since ur father just gives u
the money for school, living, etc. from sri
lanka
DigitalFury: (5:27 PM) did that in October
sam: (5:27 PM) damn! too late huh
sam 25/02/20 9:33 am DigitalFury: (5:32 PM) h-3? hm... or an h-1?
i got a o-1
sam: (5:32 PM) you have 4 partners in europe
huh?
he got h-3.. which is trainee visa
sam: (5:32 PM) what is an o-1?
DigitalFury: (5:32 PM) they give it to ppl
with "special talents" :)
sam: (5:33 PM) hehe :)
sam 25/02/20 9:33 am special talent lol
iBLAMEj00 25/02/20 9:35 am Special, like riding the short bus?
sam 25/02/20 10:03 am DigitalFury: (5:59 PM) well, if you look
closeley, the news items, downloads and
content are more targeted towards Euro Gamers,
they are more 'technical' than the US gamers
you could say they are more like hacker types
:)
sam: (6:00 PM) really.. thats interesting.
would that work ok if we wanted to make
megagames.com gaming.efront.com
DigitalFury: (6:01 PM) nah... i don't think.
you should get gamernkings.com for that.
megagames.com is more of a nich site
sam: (6:02 PM) really huh
sam: (6:02 PM) how do u mean niche
sam: (6:02 PM) megagmes has everything i can
think of in gaming:)
DigitalFury: (6:02 PM) does eFront have a
gaming portal?
sam: (6:02 PM) not really.. thats why we were
going to use our best site to do that
DigitalFury: (6:03 PM) yep, it does, we have
tried our best to make it as comprehensive as
possible
sam 25/02/20 10:03 am which do u think will be better as
gaming.efront.com gamerankings or megagames
iBLAMEj00 25/02/20 10:05 am I agree with him, megagames is more niche.
iBLAMEj00 25/02/20 10:05 am Gamerankings would be better.
sam 25/02/20 10:05 am really huh
iBLAMEj00 25/02/20 10:05 am Still, megagames will be megagames.efront.com
iBLAMEj00 25/02/20 10:05 am Maybe he was saying that because he didn't
want his domain changed =)
sam 25/02/20 10:06 am i see.. hm..
if 25 mil pv / mo come from usa.. and we sell
eFG (gaming.efront.com) to advertisers.. its
easy.. but if we do it with gamerankings.. as
efg.. with what, 1 mil pv. .then its hard to
put that advertising on megagames normally..
its easier to sell one brand...than lots of
brands..
sam 25/02/20 10:06 am he seems to hve cooled down alot
sam 25/02/20 10:06 am i think he got the euniverse email too
iBLAMEj00 25/02/20 10:08 am Heh
sam 25/02/20 10:13 am i gotta let go 3 more ppl next week :/
iBLAMEj00 25/02/20 10:19 am Well, you've gotta do what you've gotta do to
get me paid =)
sam 25/02/20 10:20 am yeah..every1s just gotta bare a lil more.. im
trying to get our cost down to 400k..and start
having 200-300-400k/month profit
iBLAMEj00 25/02/20 10:21 am Yea, then you can pay me off early =)
sam 25/02/20 10:21 am nah
sam 25/02/20 10:22 am then.. we will be in a strong position
sam 25/02/20 10:22 am to find investor, merger, partner
opportunities.. gotta make the shares
valuable:)
sam 25/02/20 10:22 am 1 mil/mo rev, 500k/mo exp, 500k/mo profit..
i could acquire 2 cmpanies right now that i
know that had 11 mil in rev last year and
nother that had 20 mil in rev
sam 25/02/20 10:23 am www.ecalyx.com
iBLAMEj00 25/02/20 10:23 am I was joking about paying me off early =)
sam 25/02/20 10:23 am they're looking for an exit.. and its a
technology company..so we add that to our biz
..and the multiplier is better
sam 25/02/20 10:23 am ya i know :)
iBLAMEj00 25/02/20 10:23 am Hey, check out http://www.celebfoto.com/ it
now looks much better.
sam 25/02/20 10:23 am ill be honest with you, we're making 2cpm on
pageviews right now heh
iBLAMEj00 25/02/20 10:24 am I've noticed that we are getting some better
ads.
sam 25/02/20 10:24 am just cash-flow hole from uncollectibles.. but
even with that
sam 25/02/20 10:24 am well not just ads.. with everything..careers,
direct mktg, tech services, etc
sam 25/02/20 10:24 am i wanna increase that to 3 cpm.. pay
webmasters 30 cent cpm, employees 30 cent cpm,
and start building a cash reserve
sam 25/02/20 10:24 am hmm.. i dont think harsha gts it
iBLAMEj00 25/02/20 10:25 am Heh
sam 25/02/20 10:25 am DigitalFury: (6:20 PM) true. do you have a
plan like hardrocksports for megagames? i
would love to look at it...
sam: (6:21 PM) its the same thing.. replace
hardrocksports with megagames.. same tabs..
ta-da
of course, the color could be black
background, yellow text, etc. and the content
jackets would be whatever you wanna put
there.. and this way we can have ad cells and
content cells next to each other
DigitalFury: (6:22 PM) where would our current
sections go then?
sam: (6:24 PM) it would go below the tabs
iBLAMEj00 25/02/20 10:25 am Heh
sam 25/02/20 10:25 am i sent him the word document
sam 25/02/20 10:25 am how do i explain to him :)
iBLAMEj00 25/02/20 10:25 am You will get a lot of flack over a unified
design.
sam 25/02/20 10:25 am he seems ok with it!
iBLAMEj00 25/02/20 10:25 am That's why you need to design it with
webmasters in mind.
sam 25/02/20 10:26 am DigitalFury: (6:22 PM) where would our current
sections go then?
sam: (6:24 PM) it would go below the tabs
DigitalFury: (6:25 PM) oh, ok. where do those
tabs point to? thow will of course not fit on
a gaming site
DigitalFury: (6:25 PM) ppl will think those
are our sections
sam: (6:25 PM) its your left hand navigation..
its just at the top
sam: (6:26 PM) they are your section!!
iBLAMEj00 25/02/20 10:26 am Well, he agreed to get paid $18k less per
month so he's not that bright =)
sam 25/02/20 10:26 am well he doesnt have a choice :)
iBLAMEj00 25/02/20 10:26 am Heh
iBLAMEj00 25/02/20 10:27 am If everyone would realize that most of the
money they can make is in the stock, and that
it's worthless if they leave, things would be
much better.
sam 25/02/20 10:27 am ya i know.. but its hard to convince them of
that at this point cuz of the market.. so i
dont even talk about it
sam 25/02/20 10:27 am DigitalFury: (6:25 PM) ppl will think those
are our sections
sam: (6:25 PM) its your left hand navigation..
its just at the top
sam: (6:26 PM) they are your section!!
DigitalFury: (6:26 PM) oh, now that makes
sense :)
sam: (6:27 PM) all our sites would be like
that:)
DigitalFury: (6:27 PM) hm... it's really a
good idea in a business point of view. you
could probably do some great ad deals and
targetting
iBLAMEj00 25/02/20 10:29 am Tell him that webmasters will help design it.
sam 25/02/20 10:29 am sam: (6:28 PM) i'd like to have you take the
lead in helping me and working with me to get
all the gaming sites doing this
sam: (6:28 PM) like a project
sam: (6:28 PM) and i think megagames should be
@ the core man.. i really do
sam: (6:28 PM) and if u want to send a traffic
to a site, then u put their link in the
navigtion or something
DigitalFury: (6:28 PM) er... so ALL efront
gaming sites will be like this?!
sam: (6:28 PM) you would have alot of power:)
sam: (6:29 PM) all efront sites!!
iBLAMEj00 25/02/20 10:30 am Heh, he still doesn't get it.
iBLAMEj00 25/02/20 10:32 am Damnit, look at celebfoto.com
iBLAMEj00 25/02/20 10:32 am I made it purdy after your remark yesterday =)
iBLAMEj00 25/02/20 10:33 am And it's doing an average of about 35k page
views today, so it's on-track to be well over
a million page views in the first month.
iBLAMEj00 25/02/20 10:34 am So you can kill celebs.cz and redirect
celebs.efront.com to my site =)
sam 25/02/20 10:34 am heh lemme see
sam 25/02/20 10:34 am wow who is rachel blanchard
sam 25/02/20 10:34 am nice
sam 25/02/20 10:35 am whats wrongn with the bannres
iBLAMEj00 25/02/20 10:35 am I have it on hidden mode for me right now so I
can't see any pictures =)
sam 25/02/20 10:35 am wifey get u in trouble heh
iBLAMEj00 25/02/20 10:35 am If the banners are broke, it's your end not
mine =)
iBLAMEj00 25/02/20 10:36 am No, I couldn't get anything done because I
kept on looking at the pictures =)
iBLAMEj00 25/02/20 10:38 am If you look at wallpaper sites, only their
celeb/babe sections get any hits.
iBLAMEj00 25/02/20 10:38 am So why bother with the rest =)
sam 25/02/20 10:38 am so it doesnt look like its a celeb site for
advertisers:)
sam 25/02/20 10:38 am like flycast, etc:)
sam 25/02/20 10:38 am valueclick kicked us out cuz they said we had
porn remember..celebs.cz heh
sam 25/02/20 10:39 am DigitalFury: (6:32 PM) hm... why do you want
ALL eFront sites with the same design?
sam: (6:32 PM) * Megagames.com goes to
gaming.efront.com
* home page of megagames would say : eFG
eFront Gaming or something
* if we link to other sites (like aah, gr,
psxextreme, etc. ) you could do it through the
tab menu navigation.. if u dont have a section
or something, u put a link there to the other
site.. because the other site has the same
layout essentially (tpo and navigation), ppl
wouldnt feel like they left.. so promotion
occurs
sam: (6:33 PM) well for alot of reasons..
mostly brand building, its much easier to sell
ONE brand than 100 brands.. its been tough
selling all the sites.. ppl think we're an ad
network.. and they're all pretty muchdead
sam: (6:33 PM) as long as we dont lose
traffic, we increae revenues, and have a
unified brand that increases our stock value
because of the packaging, whats the
difference, right :)
DigitalFury: (6:35 PM) well, the redirecting
is fine, but you should keep both working.
there are many loyal visitors and many Euro's
don't like commercialization... they like to
go to hobby-like sites
sam: (6:36 PM) how do u know :)
DigitalFury: (6:36 PM) I am am Euro gamer :)
sam: (6:36 PM) yeah but its also your site..
so you might be biased :)
DigitalFury: (6:38 PM) not really, see, once
they start using a site they become quite
loyal, unlike US gamer, who just want to get
what they want and just leave the site
for example i am very loyal to yahoo.com, i
would hate to see some other companies sub
domain popping up as i type yahoo.com
sam: (6:39 PM) heh.. but u know, it hasnt
dropped traffic at like pingoo.efront.com or
hebus.com our euro /french sites
iBLAMEj00 25/02/20 10:43 am People are people, there's no difference.
iBLAMEj00 25/02/20 10:44 am And just because it's a unified layout doesn't
mean there will be more ads.
sam 25/02/20 10:44 am no..euros are special :)
iBLAMEj00 25/02/20 10:44 am Probably fewer ads or they won't be as
noticable.
sam 25/02/20 10:44 am more ads.. but alot less noticeable
iBLAMEj00 25/02/20 10:44 am Like the webguide and bottom ad are gone.
sam 25/02/20 10:44 am we're going to hae 6 ads a page now:)
sam 25/02/20 10:44 am yeah no webguide crap
sam 25/02/20 10:45 am but the ads will be integrated w/ the content
sam 25/02/20 10:45 am so ppl will think its content
iBLAMEj00 25/02/20 10:45 am Yea, there are like 20 ads right now.
sam 25/02/20 10:45 am like those freebie sites that used to make
alot of money
iBLAMEj00 25/02/20 10:46 am And for the love of God, PLEASE get someone to
fix my web guide!
iBLAMEj00 25/02/20 10:46 am I've been showing GameRankings 24/7 for like a
week now.
sam 25/02/20 10:46 am i told nate like thu/fri
sam 25/02/20 10:46 am u should probably remove the webguide
iBLAMEj00 25/02/20 10:46 am Since I'm trying to give away my own XBox, it
really sucks.
sam 25/02/20 10:47 am he said he was going to do it
sam 25/02/20 10:47 am just remove the webguide, fuck it
sam 25/02/20 10:47 am i dont wanna be promoting scott's stuff..
iBLAMEj00 25/02/20 10:47 am I guess the only thing on it is a go search,
so yea, nothing is paying.
sam 25/02/20 10:49 am check this out
iBLAMEj00 25/02/20 10:50 am Go.com & Storerunner, why even have it?
sam 25/02/20 10:50 am yeah u can remove it.. we're going to have
more campaigns going anyways .. nate is so
behind .. we have 5 campaigns to deploy right
now
sam 25/02/20 10:50 am this is what i'd really like to achieve so
it's easy for G3 to implement:
Offer a login/signup technology solution such
that..
a) Any site can signup and implement this on
their site.
b) they would be allowed to co-brand the
signup page with their own logos, etc.
c)
Benefits:
a) Not only will G3 be able to deploy it
within our netowrk..but,
b) We can get any site out there on the web to
add the member-only content features to their
site (and they'dget paid)
c) Since banners are virtually dead right now,
alot of people would sign up and since noone
is doing this right now, we'd have the market.
d) we use our network as a testbed.. and make
it large scale using affiliates
on maybe some sort of rev share basis
sam 25/02/20 10:51 am (passport.com) ive been reading/studying it
tonight.
im on the verge of hiring someone to implement
it on our sites.. looks relateively easy.
i'd like to get it implemented on the
high-traffic sections.. and have opt-in only
offers.
Just 10k opt-in signups a day can make us
1mil+ /month
and opt-in seems more stable and more
qualified leads and thus more sustainable
sam 25/02/20 10:53 am 10k optins signups a day = 30-40k optin offers
a day.. = $1mil/month easy
iBLAMEj00 25/02/20 10:54 am 10k sign-ups a day is hard though.
sam 25/02/20 10:55 am network wide?
sam 25/02/20 10:55 am we can even do it as an affiliate program
sam 25/02/20 10:55 am and pay next to nothing.. and we have no
risk..
sam 25/02/20 10:55 am gues what
sam 25/02/20 10:55 am we get 8000 signups a day right now through
popups:)
iBLAMEj00 25/02/20 10:56 am And if you would change it to give away a XBox
and a GameCube, you would get even more =)
iBLAMEj00 25/02/20 10:56 am Then who needs this system if you are already
at 8k/day?
sam 25/02/20 10:56 am i told them to get rid of the sorryass ps2
promotion and make it xbox
sam 25/02/20 10:56 am because we want 20k/day
sam 25/02/20 10:56 am 30k/day
sam 25/02/20 10:56 am market share
sam 25/02/20 10:56 am theres competition out there
sam 25/02/20 10:56 am and we're a little aerly int he email mktg
game
sam 25/02/20 10:57 am and if we dont get int a dominant position,
iBLAMEj00 25/02/20 10:57 am Did you talk to G3 about the newsletter
thingy?
sam 25/02/20 10:57 am we'lll get screwed like we did in banners
sam 25/02/20 10:57 am no i havent had a chance
iBLAMEj00 25/02/20 10:57 am Because he made the deadline something silly
like Tuesday.
iBLAMEj00 25/02/20 10:57 am And if people are doing it wrong, that will
suck.
sam 25/02/20 10:58 am im putting lot of pressure on him to get
things done fater heh
sam 25/02/20 10:58 am faster heh
sam 25/02/20 10:58 am maybe my fault:)
sam 25/02/20 10:58 am he wanted 2 weeks.. i said, no you're going to
get it done in 48 hours :p
iBLAMEj00 25/02/20 11:01 am Heh, it won't go over well if people need to
redo it.
sam 25/02/20 11:02 am harsha said he'll do passport:)
sam 25/02/20 11:02 am he wants it to try it out only on few sectinos
at a time first
iBLAMEj00 25/02/20 11:02 am passport?
sam 25/02/20 11:03 am use the login technology from passport.com its
free:)
sam 25/02/20 11:03 am so we dont have to screw with database,
impelmentatino, security, etc.
sam 25/02/20 11:03 am i read it .. its good stuff..and they offer it
for fre
iBLAMEj00 25/02/20 11:04 am I can't see how it could be protected
off-site.
sam 25/02/20 11:05 am they apparently do it :)
sam 25/02/20 11:05 am for us, it will be just like a .htaccess type
of thing for certain areas
iBLAMEj00 25/02/20 11:06 am Yea.
iBLAMEj00 25/02/20 12:04 pm Scott doing his own ads again?
sam 25/02/20 12:24 pm hmm.. apparently huh.. bastard.. dont talk to
him for a day and sheehs
sam 25/02/20 12:25 pm he seems like such a hassle.. i feel like just
kicking him out
sam 25/02/20 12:25 pm we made him..we gave him a ton of traffic
iBLAMEj00 25/02/20 12:25 pm Yea, and with all that excellent network-wide
100% ads we have been giving him.
iBLAMEj00 25/02/20 12:25 pm I know, I like helped him with everything.
sam 25/02/20 12:26 pm he sent an email to everyone saying he was
accessed and locked out.. bastard
sam 25/02/20 12:26 pm so i told nate to let him back in
sam 25/02/20 12:26 pm well, we'll charge him hosting + loss of
revenues
sam 25/02/20 12:26 pm i asked nate why isnt it
gamerankings.efront.com yet.. and he said cuz
it was nt and he didnt know how to do it on nt
iBLAMEj00 25/02/20 12:27 pm I do.
iBLAMEj00 25/02/20 12:27 pm Point gamerankings.com to a unix box.
sam 25/02/20 12:27 pm and have the unix box redirect it huh
iBLAMEj00 25/02/20 12:27 pm Then redirect it to gamerankings.efrong.com
iBLAMEj00 25/02/20 12:28 pm heh, efrong.com
sam 25/02/20 12:28 pm yeah.. i gotta get s4r to do it w/ g3..
nate and matt are so useless these ays
iBLAMEj00 25/02/20 12:28 pm ethong.com
sam 25/02/20 12:28 pm heh
sam 25/02/20 12:29 pm im kinda glad we have s4r..we just gotta
utilize them properly. tahts our tech team..
then at least if one of the other tech ppl
leave or whatever, we have a backup
sam 25/02/20 12:30 pm hey did you like that passport idea btw? scale
of 1 to 10.. what do u think
sam 25/02/20 12:30 pm it definitely differentiates us from what
everyone else is doing
sam 25/02/20 12:30 pm in terms of monetizing..
iBLAMEj00 25/02/20 12:31 pm I don't understand what their technology is.
sam 25/02/20 12:31 pm its just unified login/password
iBLAMEj00 25/02/20 12:32 pm Yea, but how to they make sure people can't
get into your system?
iBLAMEj00 25/02/20 12:32 pm I don't think it actually does the security.
iBLAMEj00 25/02/20 12:32 pm It just allows you to automatically use the
password.
sam 25/02/20 12:32 pm yes of course they do..no, they maintain the
whole database etc
iBLAMEj00 25/02/20 12:33 pm Okay, how exactly can they make
http://arcadeathome.efront.com/warez not
available?
sam 25/02/20 12:34 pm well, any link to that page would go to
passsport.. so ppl have to signin.. and then
that lets them go to warez
iBLAMEj00 25/02/20 12:34 pm So then they just give the URL to their
friends.
iBLAMEj00 25/02/20 12:35 pm And other sites just link to that URL as well.
sam 25/02/20 12:35 pm no of course not
sam 25/02/20 12:35 pm because its like .htaccess
iBLAMEj00 25/02/20 12:35 pm Grrr.
sam 25/02/20 12:35 pm hotmail.com uses it!
sam 25/02/20 12:35 pm heh
iBLAMEj00 25/02/20 12:35 pm That's what I'm saying, they can't do it
without US doing the security.
iBLAMEj00 25/02/20 12:36 pm So they give no value.
iBLAMEj00 25/02/20 12:37 pm If you just sign-up, then it redirects you, we
can do that with our PS2 give-away right now.
Just make the results page the section they
are trying to gain access to.
iBLAMEj00 25/02/20 12:38 pm But the problem remains that they can just
bookmark it and give it out, link to it,
whatever.
iBLAMEj00 25/02/20 12:38 pm Because the page isn't password protected.
iBLAMEj00 25/02/20 12:39 pm Hotmail has their own security. They just use
it so people don't have to remember and type
in the same passwords over and over.
sam 25/02/20 1:52 pm im doing our biz plan
sam 25/02/20 1:53 pm what do u think of this opening line :)
sam 25/02/20 1:53 pm eFront (“eFront” or the “Company”) is a
technology solutions provider of
Internet-based products and services. Through
customized application development & hosting,
data mining & delivery, and online marketing &
licensing, eFront helps companies harness the
power of the Internet to realize new
efficiencies, win new prospects and better
serve their customers.
iBLAMEj00 25/02/20 1:54 pm It sounds like you hit refresh a few times on
the Web Economy Bullshit Generator.
sam 25/02/20 1:55 pm heh
sam 25/02/20 1:55 pm seriosly :)
sam 25/02/20 1:55 pm we cant be an ad company
sam 25/02/20 1:55 pm or a pure marketing play
sam 25/02/20 1:55 pm or content
sam 25/02/20 1:55 pm so .. the spin is
iBLAMEj00 25/02/20 1:55 pm disintermediate integrated content
seize front-end infrastructures
orchestrate vertical solutions
repurpose virtual partnerships
expedite vertical content
iBLAMEj00 25/02/20 1:55 pm Try fitting those in there too =)
sam 25/02/20 1:56 pm look.. we write scripts, we host it, we mine
our users for data, and we deliver them to
copanies who need those users as new prospecs
sam 25/02/20 1:56 pm so thats what the pitch is
sam 25/02/20 1:56 pm without saying that
sam 25/02/20 1:56 pm and making it sound ad-ish
iBLAMEj00 25/02/20 1:56 pm Got it.
sam 25/02/20 1:56 pm thats the best i could do
sam 25/02/20 1:56 pm and get away from an ad sounding approach :)
iBLAMEj00 25/02/20 1:57 pm But you had to use the BS generator, right?
sam 25/02/20 1:57 pm heh
sam 25/02/20 1:57 pm i was born with it :)
iBLAMEj00 25/02/20 1:57 pm Heh
sam 25/02/20 1:58 pm does that remotely make sense though :)
sam 25/02/20 1:58 pm they should actually have a BS decryptor
sam 25/02/20 1:58 pm that goes along w/ the BS generator
sam 25/02/20 1:59 pm speakenglish.com
sam 25/02/20 1:59 pm you put input BS.. and it spits out exactly
what you are saying, no bs :)
iBLAMEj00 25/02/20 2:04 pm I use the Ask Jesus site in that case
iBLAMEj00 25/02/20 2:04 pm http://www.askjesus.org/ask.cgi?http://www.cel
bfoto.com/babes/
sam 25/02/20 2:05 pm oh man.. i just got an idea.. like sprinks,
goto.com, etc. could be tech services revenues
:)
sam 25/02/20 2:05 pm cuz we write scripts to make it happen :)
iBLAMEj00 25/02/20 2:05 pm Technically, it's 100% tech services.
sam 25/02/20 2:06 pm i know.. but i want to distribute it a little
bit:)
iBLAMEj00 25/02/20 2:06 pm Heh, the askjesus site translates Britney
Spears to "The Virgin Mary"
sam 25/02/20 2:08 pm heh..idont think so :)
sam 25/02/20 2:08 pm AVFind: (10:07 PM) cool. That's be great. It'd
be even greater if you can get a server for
AVFind also.
[i gotta get him hosted..then we can say we're
in the hosting biz too :]
iBLAMEj00 25/02/20 2:10 pm Yea, how about this:
"We will do anything for cash, even whore
ourselves out."
sam 25/02/20 2:11 pm same thing.. i just add a bit of class to it
iBLAMEj00 25/02/20 2:11 pm Heh, yea, just take the edges off my
statement.
sam 25/02/20 2:12 pm i had put ad serving and shit in there
sam 25/02/20 2:13 pm but screw it..
iBLAMEj00 25/02/20 2:14 pm Hey, I'm ready to change the language of that
site to anything =)
iBLAMEj00 25/02/20 2:14 pm All I have to do is include a language file
and bam.
iBLAMEj00 25/02/20 2:14 pm You want me to make a french site?
sam 25/02/20 2:15 pm sam: (10:11 PM) for avfind huh? so are you on
pace to make 2k yet
AVFind: (10:12 PM) yeah probably like 3k
sam: (10:13 PM) through banners?
AVFind: (10:13 PM) Yeah
AVFind: (10:13 PM) Everything
sam: (10:13 PM) which comopany r u using
AVFind: (10:14 PM) Mostly mp3.com and
launch.com affiliate stuff
sam: (10:14 PM) really.. how much does mp3.com
pay
AVFind: (10:14 PM) 2 cents per click
AVFind: (10:14 PM) 50 cents per signup
sam: (10:14 PM) on the banners?
AVFind: (10:14 PM) on everything
sam: (10:14 PM) so you're getting alot of
signups?
AVFind: (10:14 PM) text links and stuff
sam: (10:15 PM) shit.. why dont we use that
..hmm
sam 25/02/20 2:15 pm yeah.. french.. we can take hebus out of biz
sam 25/02/20 2:15 pm use all his wallpaper.. and stuff
sam 25/02/20 2:15 pm and we'll promote this from hebus :)
sam 25/02/20 2:15 pm or something
iBLAMEj00 25/02/20 2:16 pm At the rate I'm going, I don't think it will
take long.
iBLAMEj00 25/02/20 2:16 pm We need to change hebus to hebus.efront.com
iBLAMEj00 25/02/20 2:16 pm So then we can actually steal visitors also =)
sam 25/02/20 2:18 pm i did! fucking matt changed it back to
hebus.com some copyright stuff.. not sure.. i
gotta find out.. when he gets back
sam 25/02/20 2:20 pm that guy makes all that money from mp3.com
geez
sam 25/02/20 2:20 pm i need someone to sign up to as many affiliate
programs as possible
iBLAMEj00 25/02/20 2:22 pm ValueClick is giving me shit already.
iBLAMEj00 25/02/20 2:22 pm I'm going to have a conference call with them
on Monday.
sam 25/02/20 2:24 pm really
sam 25/02/20 2:24 pm how weak
iBLAMEj00 25/02/20 2:26 pm I'm just sending too many banner views or
something, the click-thru rate isn't an issue,
they actually like it.
iBLAMEj00 25/02/20 2:26 pm I'm hoping I can work it out with them. I
took off their ads till we work it out.
sam 25/02/20 2:27 pm thats weak
sam 25/02/20 2:28 pm AVFind: (10:26 PM)
http://traffic.ss.com/~images/login.html
Website ID: SS
Username: test
Password: test
AVFind: (10:27 PM) but hitsensor 2 is nothing
like that. I wish I could show you a demo but
I can't run it on the same server with AVFind
sam 25/02/20 2:28 pm the guy wants to run a 1x1 on all our sites..
so we can start datamining and looking at
traffic pattersn on all our sites
for free
sam 25/02/20 2:28 pm matt said its dumb, etc.
iBLAMEj00 25/02/20 2:30 pm With a unified layout, we could easily track
that.
sam 25/02/20 2:31 pm using his technology
iBLAMEj00 25/02/20 2:34 pm Or our own.
sam 25/02/20 2:35 pm we cant even run our own shit.. how will we..
sam 25/02/20 2:35 pm and he'll give it to us for free anyways :)
sam 25/02/20 2:35 pm and maintain/etc
sam 25/02/20 2:35 pm im hiring a programmer next week
sam 25/02/20 2:35 pm i gotta interview 2
sam 25/02/20 2:35 pm fire 4 and hire 2
:)
sam 25/02/20 2:37 pm you'll be shocked in the next couple of
weeks.. lots of changes to come:)
iBLAMEj00 25/02/20 2:38 pm Change can be good.
sam 25/02/20 2:40 pm it will be.. i gotta kill another 200k in
monthly expenses
sam 25/02/20 2:40 pm without it impacting revenues
iBLAMEj00 25/02/20 2:40 pm Man, it's winter and we are getting a
thunderstorm.
sam 25/02/20 2:40 pm yeah its raining here too
iBLAMEj00 25/02/20 2:56 pm http://www.babe-site.com
iBLAMEj00 25/02/20 2:56 pm There ya go, it's French.
iBLAMEj00 25/02/20 2:57 pm And I could make another language in like 5
minutes.
iBLAMEj00 25/02/20 2:57 pm All the hooks are in place now.
sam 25/02/20 2:58 pm nice.. ill show that to andy :)
iBLAMEj00 25/02/20 2:59 pm I'll do another language, just because it's so
easy.
iBLAMEj00 25/02/20 3:07 pm What other language do you want?
sam 25/02/20 3:07 pm german next i think
iBLAMEj00 25/02/20 3:09 pm k
iBLAMEj00 25/02/20 3:15 pm done =)
sam 25/02/20 3:15 pm thats too fast.. scary
iBLAMEj00 25/02/20 3:15 pm http://www.babe-pix.com/babes/
iBLAMEj00 25/02/20 3:16 pm Here are the sites:
http://www.celebfoto.com/ (English)
http://www.babe-site.com/ (French)
http://www.babe-pix.com/ (German)
iBLAMEj00 25/02/20 3:16 pm They could be different colors or something
also.
iBLAMEj00 25/02/20 3:20 pm Oops, I didn't translate one phrase, but it's
fixed now.
iBLAMEj00 25/02/20 3:22 pm Obviously, we would have to have someone who
spoke the language go over it.
iBLAMEj00 25/02/20 3:22 pm It's just a stupid Bablefish translation.
iBLAMEj00 25/02/20 3:28 pm Heh, this is in his underware section:
http://hebus.efront.com/babes/image2.php3?nom=
nderwear2/&img=underwear2/underwear132.jpg&nom
img=underwear132.jpg
iBLAMEj00 25/02/20 3:28 pm I guess the stockings are underware.
iBLAMEj00 25/02/20 3:30 pm And this could be considered porn:
http://hebus.efront.com/babes/image2.php3?nom=
nderwear2/&img=underwear2/underwear123.jpg&nom
img=underwear123.jpg
sam 25/02/20 3:38 pm nice porn
iBLAMEj00 25/02/20 3:39 pm Heh
iBLAMEj00 25/02/20 3:39 pm That's what VC said.
iBLAMEj00 26/02/20 2:19 pm Doesn't this guy have some kind of
non-complete in his contract?
http://beautifulsavers.efront.com
Because these sites (and I'm sure others) sure
do look like they are done by the same guy
(just outside eFront).
http://www.beautifulbikini.com
http://www.elitesavers.com
http://www.fabuloussavers.com
http://celebritysavers.com
http://www.sexyfreeamateurs.com
iBLAMEj00 26/02/20 2:19 pm Actually, I checked and they are all
registered by the same guy, Gabor Timis (same
guy that's with eFront)? I'm sure he has
other sites too, but I think the plan is to
sell one to efront and promote the others.
sam 27/02/20 12:21 pm hey send ur cntract in.. i wanna get u paid
while we have the $ :) i did get rid of 4
people today
sam 27/02/20 12:21 pm so we're cutting our costs further
sam 28/02/20 2:49 pm hey whats up?
iBLAMEj00 28/02/20 2:50 pm My grandma used to reply to that "Chicken
butt, turn around and lick it up"
sam 28/02/20 2:50 pm heh
sam 28/02/20 2:50 pm 5 people axed this week:)
sam 28/02/20 2:51 pm cut our monthly cost another 30k/mo on avg
iBLAMEj00 28/02/20 2:51 pm Cool, now I can get what they were getting =)
sam 28/02/20 2:52 pm imhaving a big sales meeting tomorrow w/ the
sales guys.. 100k/mo or youre out.. and im
oging to start interviewing already cuz not
all of you will be here the end of the month
sam 28/02/20 2:52 pm i also cut all the exec pays by 50%.. no
accrual.. take it or leave it.. jerry wouldnt
accept basically.. so i got rid of him
sam 28/02/20 2:52 pm cleaning house right now :)
iBLAMEj00 28/02/20 2:52 pm Yea, you need to interview constantly for
sales people.
sam 28/02/20 2:52 pm just confidential stuff heh
iBLAMEj00 28/02/20 2:53 pm Just the flood of people you are interviewing
will make them try harder =)
sam 28/02/20 2:53 pm thats true
iBLAMEj00 28/02/20 2:53 pm Jerry's gone huh?
sam 28/02/20 2:53 pm i had no choice.. i had to
sam 28/02/20 2:54 pm i gotta clean our books, wipe the balance
sheet clean, back to profitability
iBLAMEj00 28/02/20 2:54 pm You can't get blood from a stone.
sam 28/02/20 2:55 pm im going to be outsourcing
accounting/hr/ar/ap/payroll to ledgent.com
sam 28/02/20 2:55 pm and get rid of our hr guy, accountant, and
since i cut bill's salary by 50%. he said u
know i have to look for another job.. i said i
understand
sam 28/02/20 2:55 pm so all that will be outsourced
tech outsourced to s4r.. (marc F resigned cuz
of stress:)
sam 28/02/20 2:55 pm basically, all we need is sales!
sam 28/02/20 2:55 pm time to make money
sam 28/02/20 2:56 pm im trying to think of a good strategy w/ the
sales guys
iBLAMEj00 28/02/20 2:56 pm You should let the webmasters know that you
cut employees, and if it leaks, it's the last
time they get any info.
sam 28/02/20 2:57 pm u know its gonna leak.. ha ha..so obvious:)
iBLAMEj00 28/02/20 2:57 pm There's comfort in company.
sam 28/02/20 2:57 pm i dont want vendors, etc. to know
sam 28/02/20 2:57 pm thats bad
iBLAMEj00 28/02/20 2:57 pm Yea.
sam 28/02/20 2:57 pm but 'technically' we had like 1 layoff
iBLAMEj00 28/02/20 2:57 pm Right, everyone else just wouldn't agree to
get paid 50% =)
sam 28/02/20 2:58 pm derek.. i got him to quit voluntarily. so
meir.. jerry fired.. this other guy voluntary
cuz of pressure
sam 28/02/20 2:58 pm well not 50% for everyone.. im doing it so we
pay everyone on payroll what ever is accrued
whenever payroll is made.. no accrual bs..i
want our balance sheet absolutely clean... no
debt..
sam 28/02/20 3:00 pm i did want to talk to u about babyanesm
iBLAMEj00 28/02/20 3:01 pm Hey, if you can get rid of people, and no one
threatened to cut off your balls, the it's a
good day.
sam 28/02/20 3:01 pm we got a letter frombabynames
sam 28/02/20 3:01 pm lawyer
sam 28/02/20 3:01 pm basically we didnt meet our obligation blah
blah
sam 28/02/20 3:01 pm and demandedthe site bck
sam 28/02/20 3:02 pm i called thelawyer
sam 28/02/20 3:03 pm i said i dont have any problem with something
like that if we can work it out
sam 28/02/20 3:03 pm with appropriate terms and to send me a draft
sam 28/02/20 3:03 pm agreement
iBLAMEj00 28/02/20 3:03 pm So you want me to ript the content from her
site, right =)
sam 28/02/20 3:03 pm imthinking:
* we create our own babynames.efront.com
* give back babynames.com
* we dont owe them any $
* we keep the $ made there through l90
we'd be up +$$$.. plus we have our own :)
sam 28/02/20 3:04 pm so i want to see if we/i/you/someone can
create babynames.efront.com with baby search
content + stupid article or something
sam 28/02/20 3:04 pm and whenwe re-point babynames.com
babynames.efront.com still exists :)
iBLAMEj00 28/02/20 3:04 pm My wife's a Jennifer also, I'll make her run
it =)
iBLAMEj00 28/02/20 3:05 pm It will be easy to rip her content. We could
rip other site's content also.
iBLAMEj00 28/02/20 3:06 pm She does a poor job with page names so search
engines can't even spider her.
sam 28/02/20 3:07 pm wow thats great:)
"Ask Jennifer" Column
sam 28/02/20 3:07 pm she'd be pissed:)
iBLAMEj00 28/02/20 3:08 pm Heh
iBLAMEj00 28/02/20 3:08 pm She don't own the names on her site =)
iBLAMEj00 28/02/20 3:09 pm What's important is that we drag it out a
while, so the babynames.efront.com sticks =)
sam 28/02/20 3:10 pm yeah.. another week or so?
sam 28/02/20 3:10 pm ill argue about details in the contract :)
iBLAMEj00 28/02/20 3:10 pm The longer the better =)
sam 28/02/20 3:10 pm i also told them
sam 28/02/20 3:11 pm may i remind you that the reason we stopped
payment is because she violated our contract
and i have the proof archived
sam 28/02/20 3:11 pm she competed with us on our ecommerce links
sam 28/02/20 3:11 pm heh.. he couldnt say anything to that
iBLAMEj00 28/02/20 3:11 pm Heh
iBLAMEj00 28/02/20 3:11 pm That's how we forgive the old dept.
sam 28/02/20 3:11 pm exactomondo
iBLAMEj00 28/02/20 3:16 pm I'm already ripping her names.
sam 28/02/20 3:17 pm we're negotiating with hebus
sam 28/02/20 3:17 pm and they're balking about 2.5 cpmU
sam 28/02/20 3:17 pm so im going to show him your site
sam 28/02/20 3:17 pm and say we did it in 2 hours
sam 28/02/20 3:17 pm whats the url
iBLAMEj00 28/02/20 3:17 pm celebfoto.com
sam 28/02/20 3:17 pm and say..we might need to let him walk..
beause it's much cheaper to do our own
sam 28/02/20 3:17 pm the frenchiy ersion?
sam 28/02/20 3:17 pm and his clickthrus suck yadayada
iBLAMEj00 28/02/20 3:18 pm bablefish french is babe-site.com
sam 28/02/20 4:59 pm we're close to doing a 6 million dollar
contract w/ excite@home
sam 28/02/20 4:59 pm to be their career portal :)
sam 28/02/20 4:59 pm thats all of our revenues from last year heh
iBLAMEj00 28/02/20 5:00 pm Heh
sam 28/02/20 5:01 pm im glad we'removing away from banners.. if i
can help it , im going to make efront a tech
comany :) i have our new b.plan almost done..
too:)
iBLAMEj00 28/02/20 5:01 pm Dealing drugs?
sam 28/02/20 5:02 pm ya we bought edrugtrader.com
sam 28/02/20 6:31 pm you're up latE:)
iBLAMEj00 28/02/20 6:32 pm Yea, sleep is for the weak.
sam 28/02/20 6:32 pm i called l90 and told them we're in dispute w/
babynames and we need the account in our name,
billing payment info in our name, and new
password:) i talked her into it.. i faxed the
asset purchase agreement (and blanked out the
terms)
sam 28/02/20 6:33 pm do u think jennifer will be pissed if she sees
babynames.efront.com + we have an l90 contract
that goes against it:)
sam 28/02/20 6:33 pm all the current l90 ads (decent cpm)
sam 28/02/20 6:33 pm will go against our own babynames.efront.com
:)
sam 28/02/20 6:33 pm pretty sneaky huh
sam 28/02/20 6:33 pm she'll be loyally fucked
iBLAMEj00 28/02/20 6:34 pm Yea.
iBLAMEj00 28/02/20 6:34 pm I was thinking of that =)
sam 28/02/20 6:35 pm i talked to her lawyer.. i think he's weak..
ill make them put all sorts of claims,
release, waiver in the agreement :)
sam 28/02/20 6:38 pm i forgot to tell u.. freeskills.com.. they are
fighting
haha.. their contract says
"if efront sells the site, developers get 15%
of the proceeds"
put it on ebay.. and have someone buy it for
10k and give them 1500 :)))))
sam 28/02/20 6:38 pm i told andy to buy it.. and ebay makes it a
fair bidding process
sam 28/02/20 6:38 pm andys is the company in the uk we'll be buying
or completing the transaction shortly of
sam 28/02/20 6:39 pm thats pretty bad huh :)
sam 28/02/20 6:39 pm gotcha :)
sam 28/02/20 6:39 pm it was their own idea to put their clause ..
they thought they were worth millions lol
iBLAMEj00 28/02/20 6:40 pm Heh
iBLAMEj00 28/02/20 6:41 pm Boy, they got you there.
sam 28/02/20 6:41 pm i wish we had a little money.. i could pay
their backpay, bring their contract current
(not much like 6k or something).. and say ok
we're selling them
sam 28/02/20 6:42 pm im trying to conserve every penny.. jerry was
threatening to take us to the labor board or
have a 300k note against the company.. i
pulled the rug from under him by having bill
calc all his payments, minus apt, minus
unsubsntaited expense reports, minus
furniture.. and just paying that right away ..
he threatened to bring the company down, i
know everyone, blalbhlbah.. i sid i dont care
what u do.. we'll payu whatever we owe u and
be done with u
iBLAMEj00 28/02/20 6:43 pm Heh, and I missed all the fun =)
sam 28/02/20 6:43 pm so i gotta pay him some $$.. so getting low on
cash again.. so, ill just tell bill to send
you 5500.. and we'll work on the contract and
get that finished up.. otherwise if all the $
goes, u might have to wait a month
sam 28/02/20 6:43 pm for the next pile of money :)
iBLAMEj00 28/02/20 6:43 pm Hey, waiting is bad =)
sam 28/02/20 6:44 pm man i got an offer from smartage today.. they
owed us 58k..they are offering 17.5k.. sucks
sam 28/02/20 6:44 pm but ill take it screw it
iBLAMEj00 28/02/20 6:44 pm What a bunch of low-lifes.
sam 28/02/20 6:45 pm u can always convert into more stocks heh :)
yeah.. oh well, im going to use the same
techniques too with some of our creditors..
but illget 8 cents on the dollar or somthing..
learn and apply :)
iBLAMEj00 02/03/20 8:51 am It's also best to pay Jerry's back pay and be
done with him.
iBLAMEj00 02/03/20 8:51 am Yea, that's what I was getting at =)
iBLAMEj00 02/03/20 8:52 am And you can make him agree to not disclose
anything in exchange for the backpayment.
iBLAMEj00 02/03/20 9:05 am I've been ripping the names from babynames.com
sam 02/03/20 9:38 am yeah thats what we're doing
sam 02/03/20 9:38 am :)
iBLAMEj00 02/03/20 12:58 pm Jenn from babynames just messaged me =)
sam 02/03/20 12:58 pm ya i locked her account out
fuck her
sam 02/03/20 12:58 pm fucking sue me
iBLAMEj00 02/03/20 12:58 pm Still a go with the old plan?
sam 02/03/20 12:59 pm i got a better plan even
iBLAMEj00 02/03/20 12:59 pm Tell, she's talking to me now.
sam 02/03/20 12:59 pm she also has to pay back every penny we paid
her
iBLAMEj00 02/03/20 12:59 pm Heh
sam 02/03/20 12:59 pm How would this work with real estate for
example.
You buy a house paid over time.
You can't afford it after you make 50% of the
payments.
You still own 50% of the house as equity in
the house. If the house gets repurchaed, you
get whatever you put into it back mostly.
Prety simple. no?
iBLAMEj00 02/03/20 12:59 pm We can at least ask it, it will drag it out
longer =)
sam 02/03/20 12:59 pm want me to fwd u an email i just sent her?
sam 02/03/20 1:00 pm ok i just did
iBLAMEj00 02/03/20 1:00 pm I think I get the jist of it.
sam 02/03/20 1:01 pm It would be foreclosed upon and sold off at
fair market value, anything over what you
still owed would go to you if there were no
other claims against it.
sam 02/03/20 1:01 pm she locked us out of our l90 account too..
sam 02/03/20 1:02 pm tell her to negotiate with us and we can
resolve it
sam 02/03/20 1:02 pm otherwise, we'll drag it on forever.. costing
her lot $$ in legal fees
sam 02/03/20 1:03 pm :)
iBLAMEj00 02/03/20 1:03 pm Jenn - Babynames: He said we locked him out of
L90 stats, but L90 tells me eFront has a
password where they can view all statistics.
iBLAMEj00 02/03/20 1:03 pm Maybe you can contact L90 and ask for your
password.
sam 02/03/20 1:03 pm i did 2 times in the last 2 days
sam 02/03/20 1:03 pm they said they have to get her permission
sam 02/03/20 1:04 pm and she wouldnt let them change the billing
info
sam 02/03/20 1:04 pm when drazen requested it like 3 months ago
sam 02/03/20 1:04 pm or somtehign
sam 02/03/20 1:04 pm anyways
sam 02/03/20 1:04 pm not ur issue really :)
sam 02/03/20 1:05 pm l90 is probably telling her about our general
network efront account.. not the babynames.com
l90 account..
dont fwd my msgs to her :)
iBLAMEj00 02/03/20 1:05 pm Heh, I won't =)
iBLAMEj00 02/03/20 1:05 pm She doesn't know we are talking.
sam 02/03/20 1:05 pm i bet she doesnt have the $$ for the lawyer
sam 02/03/20 1:06 pm she lied to us.. she said, she will accept new
payment terms, etc. please send us 5000
sam 02/03/20 1:06 pm that was 1 week before feb 19
sam 02/03/20 1:06 pm i was like ok we'll do it
sam 02/03/20 1:06 pm then afterwards she changed her mind
sam 02/03/20 1:06 pm not like we lie or wahtever.. but hey
sam 02/03/20 1:07 pm its not all efront bad.. she did stuff
too..and she *STILL* has amazon links on her
sites..we told her lot of times to get rid of
them
sam 02/03/20 1:07 pm i have the site archived for evidence in court
:)
iBLAMEj00 02/03/20 1:10 pm I just laid it on her.
iBLAMEj00 02/03/20 1:11 pm That eFront has zero assets.
sam 02/03/20 1:11 pm heh
iBLAMEj00 02/03/20 1:11 pm So she could win in court, and still have to
out-bid other companies in the bankruptcy
court to buy her site back.
sam 02/03/20 1:12 pm heh yeah
sam 02/03/20 1:12 pm what did she say
iBLAMEj00 02/03/20 1:12 pm She's thinking about it... =)
sam 02/03/20 1:12 pm i told Will Bryant to not return one site
back. too bad
sam 02/03/20 1:12 pm is that bad :)
sam 02/03/20 1:12 pm maybe now 50.0005% evil :)
iBLAMEj00 02/03/20 1:12 pm Only 49.9999999999999999999% bad.
iBLAMEj00 02/03/20 1:21 pm Maybe she can serve the L90 ads and get the
money herself till eFront sorts things out?
sam 02/03/20 1:21 pm her cpm is 2cpm
sam 02/03/20 1:21 pm 16k/month
sam 02/03/20 1:22 pm on 7.5 million impressions
sam 02/03/20 1:22 pm and she refreshes every minute
iBLAMEj00 02/03/20 1:22 pm Heh
sam 02/03/20 1:22 pm jon roy and jerry did it.. but i didnt say no
i guess..
sam 02/03/20 1:22 pm cuz new demographics
sam 02/03/20 1:22 pm but its a bad deal
sam 02/03/20 1:22 pm we cant ever fix it
sam 02/03/20 1:22 pm so we have to reduce it
iBLAMEj00 02/03/20 1:22 pm What does she get from L90?
sam 02/03/20 1:22 pm shit
sam 02/03/20 1:23 pm 1 cpm at most
iBLAMEj00 02/03/20 1:23 pm And she's getting those checks directly?
sam 02/03/20 1:25 pm yeah.. and she wouldnt transfer the billing
stuff or antyhing
iBLAMEj00 02/03/20 1:26 pm That sounds like your reason to not pay her =)
sam 02/03/20 1:27 pm plus she's competing with us
sam 02/03/20 1:28 pm with her own amazon account
iBLAMEj00 02/03/20 1:38 pm Using the mortagage example, it's like she
never did the title work for the site, yet
expects you to still make payments on the
house.
sam 02/03/20 1:38 pm title work refering to l90 payment?
iBLAMEj00 02/03/20 1:38 pm The stress got to her, she went off line.
sam 02/03/20 1:38 pm what is she saying
sam 02/03/20 1:38 pm lol
iBLAMEj00 02/03/20 1:38 pm L90 account, Amazon, etc.
sam 02/03/20 1:38 pm you must have hardballed her :)
iBLAMEj00 02/03/20 1:40 pm I think I scared her about eFront not having
any assets and if it ends in bankruptcy, all
the bad things that could happen.
iBLAMEj00 02/03/20 1:40 pm Like sell her site on eBay and give her 80% of
the profit and eFront 20% of the profit.
iBLAMEj00 02/03/20 1:40 pm Or whatever the percentage is.
iBLAMEj00 02/03/20 1:41 pm I also told her that I didn't get paid last
month so that she could feed her daughter.
iBLAMEj00 02/03/20 1:41 pm Wait to see how discurraged her attorney is
when he finds out eFront has no assets.
iBLAMEj00 02/03/20 1:43 pm I asked how long was it before her attorney
asked what assets eFront has =)
sam 02/03/20 1:43 pm hehe
iBLAMEj00 02/03/20 1:43 pm Cause you KNOW any good attorney will ask that
like first.
sam 02/03/20 1:43 pm yeah.. we'll say zero :)
sam 02/03/20 1:43 pm i talked to her attorney.. he is dumb
sam 02/03/20 1:44 pm i wanted to drag it out.. iw as like.. send me
a formal legal agreement etc
sam 02/03/20 1:44 pm he didnt know what a 'url' was
sam 02/03/20 1:44 pm hehehe
sam 02/03/20 1:44 pm seroiusly
sam 02/03/20 1:44 pm he said will it be transferred
sam 02/03/20 1:44 pm i was like what
iBLAMEj00 02/03/20 1:44 pm heh
sam 02/03/20 1:44 pm i said we can return the website under proper
circumstances
sam 02/03/20 1:44 pm and to send me a formal agreement with the
details of what they want
sam 02/03/20 1:45 pm he said will that inlude the domain name
babynames.com
sam 02/03/20 1:45 pm i said obviusly :)
sam 02/03/20 1:45 pm hehe
sam 02/03/20 1:45 pm and i told him about ecommerce, noncompete, we
have archives
sam 02/03/20 1:45 pm of the site for the courts etc
sam 02/03/20 1:45 pm heh
sam 02/03/20 1:45 pm and then i said, but thats a nonissue right nw
sam 02/03/20 1:45 pm lets see if we can work this out :)
iBLAMEj00 02/03/20 1:46 pm I think a fair trade would be the domain name
in exchange for forgiving dept and the L90
account =)
sam 02/03/20 1:46 pm forgiving her debt to us?
sam 02/03/20 1:46 pm heh
iBLAMEj00 02/03/20 1:46 pm Yea, both ways =)
sam 02/03/20 1:46 pm she owes us 16k :)
iBLAMEj00 02/03/20 1:47 pm Ah, cause she has the L90 account =)
sam 02/03/20 1:47 pm no cuz we paid her .. actually 32k
sam 02/03/20 1:47 pm we paid her 2 months
sam 02/03/20 1:47 pm + the l90 account
sam 02/03/20 1:47 pm + 100k from damages of not being able to fully
capitalize on revenue opptys
sam 02/03/20 1:47 pm cuz she competed against us
sam 02/03/20 1:47 pm for her own benefit
sam 02/03/20 1:47 pm she violated our noncompete clause
sam 02/03/20 1:48 pm she has the most stupidest attorney
sam 02/03/20 1:48 pm and guess waht
sam 02/03/20 1:48 pm he *did* her contract
iBLAMEj00 02/03/20 1:48 pm Yea, put that together and send it to her
attorney.
sam 02/03/20 1:48 pm its like 8 pager
sam 02/03/20 1:48 pm hahaha
sam 02/03/20 1:48 pm and guess what
sam 02/03/20 1:48 pm for late payments, there's an interest of 1.5
% per month
sam 02/03/20 1:48 pm that means we're not in violation
sam 02/03/20 1:48 pm we just accrue interset
iBLAMEj00 02/03/20 1:48 pm Heh
sam 02/03/20 1:48 pm until we pay her :)
iBLAMEj00 02/03/20 1:48 pm Perfect.
iBLAMEj00 02/03/20 1:49 pm So she's in violation, and eFront isn't
sam 02/03/20 1:49 pm i told her that already l ike 1 month ago when
she was bitching..she shut up :)
sam 02/03/20 1:49 pm yeah..
sam 02/03/20 1:49 pm he'd probably recommend to her and get a
retainer
sam 02/03/20 1:49 pm cuz it's litigation :)
iBLAMEj00 02/03/20 1:49 pm Show how much you owe her (including interest)
and what she owes you and send your demands to
her attorney.
sam 02/03/20 1:50 pm ohhh yeah
sam 02/03/20 1:50 pm freeskills guys
sam 02/03/20 1:50 pm i told them this morning about the bad news
sam 02/03/20 1:50 pm that if they dont agree to the new terms +
remove the ipo outclause
iBLAMEj00 02/03/20 1:50 pm Heh, that their site is going to be sold on
eBay? =)
sam 02/03/20 1:50 pm we will excercise our rights under the
agreement and sell the asset
sam 02/03/20 1:50 pm and i told them we wont get more than 10-15k
probably
sam 02/03/20 1:50 pm heheh
iBLAMEj00 02/03/20 1:50 pm Heh, I'll buy it =)
sam 02/03/20 1:51 pm then sell it back to us :)
iBLAMEj00 02/03/20 1:51 pm And sell it back to eFront for a $1 profit =)
sam 02/03/20 1:51 pm im going to have andy buy it
sam 02/03/20 1:51 pm in the uk
iBLAMEj00 02/03/20 1:51 pm Heh
sam 02/03/20 1:51 pm and we're buying andy's company already
sam 02/03/20 1:51 pm so andy wont even have to pay us :)
sam 02/03/20 1:52 pm maybe i should
sam 02/03/20 1:52 pm tell them about when the auction happens
sam 02/03/20 1:52 pm andbid it up
sam 02/03/20 1:52 pm and if they want it,
sam 02/03/20 1:52 pm they have to win the site
sam 02/03/20 1:52 pm so ill sell it back to them for 80k or
something
iBLAMEj00 02/03/20 1:52 pm Yea, they even get a 15% discount.
sam 02/03/20 1:52 pm cuz i think they'd buy it back for that much
:)
sam 02/03/20 1:52 pm at least
sam 02/03/20 1:53 pm all future contracts im going to say if we
sell the site, they get 15% of proceeds
sam 02/03/20 1:53 pm hehehe
sam 02/03/20 1:53 pm thats the easiest thing to do in the world :)
sam 02/03/20 1:53 pm we can steall tons of websites :)
sam 02/03/20 1:53 pm thats 51.99999 % :)
iBLAMEj00 02/03/20 1:53 pm Heh, only an idiot would do that =)
sam 02/03/20 1:53 pm you'd be surprised
sam 02/03/20 1:53 pm we have a number of people who did that
sam 02/03/20 1:53 pm i bet if we put it,
sam 02/03/20 1:54 pm we can get 10% of the people we talk to
accepting that
iBLAMEj00 02/03/20 1:54 pm Some people must think their site is really
worth something.
sam 02/03/20 1:54 pm easier to steal sites than cheat top-lists :))
iBLAMEj00 02/03/20 1:54 pm Heh, cheating top lists is damn easy =)
sam 02/03/20 1:54 pm oh yeah this stupid pcmech dude.. i talked to
him..
sam 02/03/20 1:54 pm fucker
sam 02/03/20 1:54 pm he was going to sign the addendum
sam 02/03/20 1:54 pm then i think he intercepted one of our
sam 02/03/20 1:55 pm users email to him about advertising on pcmech
sam 02/03/20 1:55 pm carbonfusion ??
sam 02/03/20 1:55 pm anyways he said he wants the site back
sam 02/03/20 1:55 pm i got him to admit that it was someone
contacting him about advertising
iBLAMEj00 02/03/20 1:55 pm Heh, because he thinks he can get some juicy
deal?
sam 02/03/20 1:55 pm then i said hei supposed to pass it on
sam 02/03/20 1:55 pm and he is illegally holding our contact data
hostage
sam 02/03/20 1:55 pm hehe
sam 02/03/20 1:56 pm he said oh she just contactedme 2 days ago
iBLAMEj00 02/03/20 1:56 pm Just do this, give him the normal rate, and if
you make anything additional from this
contract, he gets the profits over a certain
amount.
sam 02/03/20 1:56 pm i was like.. thats whats wrong w/ all the
webmasters..they cheat, and try to steal
customers for their own deals
sam 02/03/20 1:56 pm he said carbon fusion told him he'd get 6 cpm
sam 02/03/20 1:56 pm easy
iBLAMEj00 02/03/20 1:56 pm Fine.
sam 02/03/20 1:56 pm with 1 cpm minimum
sam 02/03/20 1:57 pm startpath :)
iBLAMEj00 02/03/20 1:57 pm heh
iBLAMEj00 02/03/20 1:57 pm I got exactly one check from Startpath.
sam 02/03/20 1:57 pm geez its been a long time since then huh
sam 02/03/20 1:57 pm we got 35k from them :)
iBLAMEj00 02/03/20 1:57 pm Well, actually two because the first one
bounced =)
iBLAMEj00 02/03/20 1:58 pm You settled that finally?
sam 02/03/20 1:58 pm no
sam 02/03/20 1:58 pm that was before they had problems
iBLAMEj00 02/03/20 1:58 pm I was hoping that Startpath would pay me that
settlement and then you could beg me for it
back =)
iBLAMEj00 02/03/20 1:58 pm I'd give it to you, I just wanted to see the
begging =)
sam 02/03/20 1:59 pm heh
sam 02/03/20 1:59 pm i'd just deduct it :)
iBLAMEj00 02/03/20 1:59 pm Heh
sam 02/03/20 1:59 pm i was trying to outdo you and backdated the
contract to sept 1
sam 02/03/20 1:59 pm so i could collect the 30k for september
sam 02/03/20 2:00 pm and i got fucked in the process:)
iBLAMEj00 02/03/20 2:00 pm Heh
iBLAMEj00 02/03/20 2:00 pm I really didn't care if you got the $30k
sam 02/03/20 2:00 pm cuz u knew they werent going to pay
iBLAMEj00 02/03/20 2:00 pm Well, I knew that the check for $5k bounced,
so...
sam 02/03/20 2:00 pm yeh i didnt know bout that
iBLAMEj00 02/03/20 2:00 pm I let you take the risk of getting the 30k or
not.
iBLAMEj00 02/03/20 2:01 pm I told you about it a while ago, not then
obviously =)
sam 02/03/20 2:01 pm heh..35k from them is still not bad.. helped
us out too :)
sam 02/03/20 2:02 pm was jennifer scared :)
iBLAMEj00 02/03/20 2:02 pm Yea, and pissed.
sam 02/03/20 2:02 pm about.com sent new tags.. babyname.com is one
of the sites they chose to run their ads on
sam 02/03/20 2:02 pm our direct sales guys.. they sold like 40k
worth of stuff for babynames
sam 02/03/20 2:02 pm 10k for march forr babycenter.. (we got paid
upfrnt)
sam 02/03/20 2:02 pm 10k for april
iBLAMEj00 02/03/20 2:02 pm perfect, and we keep babynames.efront.com
sam 02/03/20 2:03 pm and 30k for clubmom for april i think
sam 02/03/20 2:03 pm yeah thas what i told the sales guy
iBLAMEj00 02/03/20 2:03 pm And we do a 60 second refresh =)
sam 02/03/20 2:03 pm he was like.. oh there wont be traffic
sam 02/03/20 2:03 pm heh
sam 02/03/20 2:03 pm and t hey were worried..they said.. what if
the client goes to babynames.com ..they might
even jennifer or whatever
iBLAMEj00 02/03/20 2:04 pm We will call the site like "Your Baby's Name"
or something.
iBLAMEj00 02/03/20 2:04 pm And just use babynames.efront.com
iBLAMEj00 02/03/20 2:05 pm Nothing Jenn can do about it.
sam 04/03/20 2:43 am do you have the new babynames site ready
sam 04/03/20 5:55 am imon the babynames box
sam 04/03/20 5:55 am jennfier wouldnt give us the l90 account
sam 04/03/20 5:55 am and transfer it to us.. she said 'talk to my
lawyers'
sam 04/03/20 5:55 am hehe
iBLAMEj00 04/03/20 5:56 am Heh
sam 04/03/20 5:56 am so im going to kill the refrehes
sam 04/03/20 5:56 am and say ok this is the REAL pageviews
iBLAMEj00 04/03/20 5:56 am Keep the refreshes, and could webviews based
on the webguide.
iBLAMEj00 04/03/20 5:56 am could=count.
sam 04/03/20 5:56 am nah.. for what
sam 04/03/20 5:56 am kill the refreshes.. we'll have to give the
site back anyways
sam 04/03/20 5:57 am and replace it with what you're doing
sam 04/03/20 5:57 am hows ur stuff comgin
sam 04/03/20 5:57 am btw, we're going back to your suggestion
sam 04/03/20 5:57 am only do the header and footer on all the sites
for now
sam 04/03/20 5:57 am and roll that out first
sam 04/03/20 5:57 am header = logo + navigation too
iBLAMEj00 04/03/20 5:57 am Actually, if she's not giving us the L90
account, we should change it to our banners.
sam 04/03/20 5:58 am thats what im doing
sam 04/03/20 5:58 am i did that
sam 04/03/20 5:58 am but
sam 04/03/20 5:58 am the banner was still there..so she had
hardcoded the bottom one in the page
sam 04/03/20 5:58 am bitch :)
iBLAMEj00 04/03/20 5:59 am You know, if we get rid of all her L90 ads,
and serve our ads, and tell her lawyer that
SHE is in violation of the contract, and we
are not, that will put some pressure on her =)
sam 04/03/20 6:00 am i know
sam 04/03/20 6:00 am thats what im doing
iBLAMEj00 04/03/20 6:00 am Anything in the contract say we have to serve
L90 ads or let her admin her site?
sam 04/03/20 6:00 am and illl fire off a letter to them next week
sam 04/03/20 6:00 am no
iBLAMEj00 04/03/20 6:01 am Perfect.
iBLAMEj00 04/03/20 6:01 am You just acknowledge that you are behind in
payments, but not in violation.
sam 04/03/20 6:01 am yes ill do that :)
sam 04/03/20 6:01 am and the payments are xyz
sam 04/03/20 6:02 am based on pageviews
sam 04/03/20 6:02 am :)
iBLAMEj00 04/03/20 6:02 am F her.
iBLAMEj00 04/03/20 6:03 am She wants to play hard ball, so give it to
her.
sam 04/03/20 6:03 am yeah rape her and spit on her
sam 04/03/20 6:03 am oops
sam 04/03/20 6:03 am err f her
iBLAMEj00 04/03/20 6:03 am heh
sam 04/03/20 6:03 am should i kill the 120x90 small button too
iBLAMEj00 04/03/20 6:04 am Is that her account?
sam 04/03/20 6:04 am yes
iBLAMEj00 04/03/20 6:04 am If she is holding the L90 account hostage and
she gets the checks from it, I would kill
everyhing non-eFront.
sam 04/03/20 6:04 am ya
sam 04/03/20 6:05 am and kill her amazon stuff too
iBLAMEj00 04/03/20 6:05 am Even her Amazon crap.
iBLAMEj00 04/03/20 6:05 am Heh
iBLAMEj00 04/03/20 6:05 am Right, zero income.
sam 04/03/20 6:08 am ta-da :) i know php now .. :)
iBLAMEj00 04/03/20 6:08 am heh
sam 04/03/20 6:08 am i killed the pampers ad too
i emailed l90 and told them we want a new
contract for babynames.efront.com
sam 04/03/20 6:09 am pcmech wanted his site back
sam 04/03/20 6:09 am i said ok
sam 04/03/20 6:09 am pay us off for our equity stake in your site
iBLAMEj00 04/03/20 6:09 am I should put her L90 banner on celebfoto.com
and get her account canceled =)
sam 04/03/20 6:09 am that we made
sam 04/03/20 6:09 am hehe
sam 04/03/20 6:10 am that means pay us back for everything we paid
you
sam 04/03/20 6:10 am and we'll sell you our stake back :)
sam 04/03/20 6:10 am hehe
sam 04/03/20 6:12 am ok killed the refresh
iBLAMEj00 04/03/20 6:13 am Heh
sam 04/03/20 6:13 am now ill measure it for monday
sam 04/03/20 6:13 am err sunday
sam 04/03/20 6:13 am i bet her pageviews go down 50%
sam 04/03/20 6:13 am and we paid her 1 or 2 payments arelad
sam 04/03/20 6:13 am so she might end up payingUS
sam 04/03/20 6:13 am to get the site back :)
sam 04/03/20 6:14 am 32k is our stake in the site.
we maybe owe her 30k
we have maybe 30k being collected in the L90
account
iBLAMEj00 04/03/20 6:14 am Does her contract say that she will have a 60
second refresh?
sam 04/03/20 6:15 am nope
sam 04/03/20 6:15 am she cant say that we made money off her asset
sam 04/03/20 6:15 am cuz
iBLAMEj00 04/03/20 6:15 am Sounds to me like she was CHEATING eFront
then.
sam 04/03/20 6:15 am we pay her stock for that.. providing service
:)
sam 04/03/20 6:15 am yeah..she was cheating with fake impressions
iBLAMEj00 04/03/20 6:15 am Heh, her attorney's head will be spinning.
iBLAMEj00 04/03/20 6:15 am She said eFront owed her $60k
sam 04/03/20 6:15 am ha ya right
sam 04/03/20 6:16 am we'll see about that
sam 04/03/20 6:16 am she'll owe us 30k
iBLAMEj00 04/03/20 6:16 am She's probably counting the money she also
made from L90 that she already got.
sam 04/03/20 6:16 am say we "caught" her cheating
iBLAMEj00 04/03/20 6:16 am Yup
iBLAMEj00 04/03/20 6:17 am refreshing banners, amazon.com, keeping the
money from the L90 account, etc.
iBLAMEj00 04/03/20 6:17 am She's been a bad girl =)
sam 04/03/20 6:17 am do u want access to the server for any reason
sam 04/03/20 6:17 am hehe
sam 04/03/20 6:17 am not deploying our campaigns :)
iBLAMEj00 04/03/20 6:17 am Yup
sam 04/03/20 6:18 am anyone who doesnt cooperate now
sam 04/03/20 6:18 am sure ill give the site back
sam 04/03/20 6:18 am but pay me back everything i paid u first :)
iBLAMEj00 04/03/20 6:19 am Heh, you can say that to scare people, but we
both know that's not how it works =)
sam 04/03/20 6:19 am yes it does
sam 04/03/20 6:19 am seriously
sam 04/03/20 6:19 am the asset is still the asset
sam 04/03/20 6:19 am for their work, we're giving them stocks
iBLAMEj00 04/03/20 6:19 am You know, is there anything in Jen's contract
about HOW page views will be tracked?
sam 04/03/20 6:19 am no there isnt
iBLAMEj00 04/03/20 6:20 am Heh
sam 04/03/20 6:20 am i just msged scott
sam 04/03/20 6:20 am im going to tell him that after further talks
with our lawyers
iBLAMEj00 04/03/20 6:20 am Use the webguide for the counter, and she
doesn't have the webguide on her site.
iBLAMEj00 04/03/20 6:20 am So zero page views, zero dollars owed.
sam 04/03/20 6:21 am yeah i know
sam 04/03/20 6:21 am but for scott
sam 04/03/20 6:21 am im going to say hey look our lawyers say that
for our investors/shareholders
sam 04/03/20 6:21 am we cant just give an asset back without proper
compensation
sam 04/03/20 6:21 am and at worst, we need to get the equity we
earned in your site
sam 04/03/20 6:21 am so pay us back all the moneyes
sam 04/03/20 6:21 am and we can let u walk
sam 04/03/20 6:22 am is that crossing the 50% evil mark :)
iBLAMEj00 04/03/20 6:22 am Heh, and you of course get to keep the stock
because that's what you were paid to run the
site =)
sam 04/03/20 6:22 am yup :)
iBLAMEj00 04/03/20 6:23 am If they say they don't want the stock, offer
to buy the stock back at .60/share too, just
to be "fair" =)
iBLAMEj00 04/03/20 6:23 am It won't make any difference because they will
still have to come up with more money than
they have.
iBLAMEj00 04/03/20 6:24 am And even if they do have it, all the better.
sam 04/03/20 6:24 am well they have stock options..not sotcks
sam 04/03/20 6:24 am accounting wise, optinos have no value
iBLAMEj00 04/03/20 6:24 am Damn, Stas got a good deal =)
sam 04/03/20 6:25 am i know!
iBLAMEj00 04/03/20 6:25 am Actually, we kept his sites so it's not that
bad.
sam 04/03/20 6:28 am actually if the sites increased in pageview
under our control
sam 04/03/20 6:28 am then theoretically the site is worth more
sam 04/03/20 6:28 am so they should pay us more than even what we
paid them!
sam 04/03/20 6:28 am or am i going too far :)
iBLAMEj00 04/03/20 6:28 am Heh
iBLAMEj00 04/03/20 6:29 am You could look at it this way...
sam 04/03/20 6:29 am or of course
sam 04/03/20 6:29 am we could sell it on ebay
iBLAMEj00 04/03/20 6:29 am Lets say that their site was worth $300k
before.
sam 04/03/20 6:29 am and split the % based on our investment in it
iBLAMEj00 04/03/20 6:29 am And $500k now.
sam 04/03/20 6:29 am and their continued stake in it
sam 04/03/20 6:29 am yeah
iBLAMEj00 04/03/20 6:30 am And lets say that they were 1 year into a 3
year contract.
iBLAMEj00 04/03/20 6:30 am So you own 1/3 of it, so if they want it back,
you want $167k
iBLAMEj00 04/03/20 6:31 am 1/3 of $500k
sam 04/03/20 6:31 am heh ya
sam 04/03/20 6:31 am we have like 4-5 direct sales for babynames
iBLAMEj00 04/03/20 6:32 am So if you paid them only $12,000, they can
have it back for $167k.
sam 04/03/20 6:32 am a 40k 6 month campaign for nestle starting
marh 15
sam 04/03/20 6:32 am babycenter for 20k for 2 months (the campaign
runningn right now)
sam 04/03/20 6:32 am clubmom for 30k in april
sam 04/03/20 6:32 am all at 7.50+cpm
iBLAMEj00 04/03/20 6:32 am Cool, these are your deals?
sam 04/03/20 6:33 am yeah.. mike murphy, one of our sales guys was
working on babynames for 2months straight and
the i/os are just coming in now
iBLAMEj00 04/03/20 6:33 am Meaning not L90 related.
sam 04/03/20 6:33 am no not l90.. their stuff sux
sam 04/03/20 6:33 am it looks like for nice high cpm sales..there
has to be a 2-3 month ramp up
iBLAMEj00 04/03/20 6:33 am Yea, just wanted to make sure it was eFront
deals.
sam 04/03/20 6:33 am to get the product name out
sam 04/03/20 6:33 am so mike was worried that we'd lose babynames
sam 04/03/20 6:34 am i said we'd just replace it with our own
version
iBLAMEj00 04/03/20 6:34 am We can't lose babynames.efront.com =)
sam 04/03/20 6:34 am he said well the advertisers would still go to
babynames.com and maybe even email jennifer
sam 04/03/20 6:34 am i said well maybe we can also get an agreement
that we rep her for 6 months
sam 04/03/20 6:34 am and do some rev share
sam 04/03/20 6:34 am but that seems like a long shot now :)
sam 04/03/20 6:35 am her site was the only one we were selling
sam 04/03/20 6:35 am on a site specific basis @ a high cpm too
sam 04/03/20 6:35 am cuz there's demand for it
sam 04/03/20 6:35 am l90 does really bad on her stuff
sam 04/03/20 6:35 am cuz they run cpc cpa and other junk on it
sam 04/03/20 6:36 am I have not approved the domain transfer nor
will we approve it until this matter is
resolved. I am waiting on Robert to send us a
formal agreement per our discussion.
Furthermore, we demand that you release the
L90 password you are holding hostage for our
website babynames.com immediately so we can
finish our doing our revenue books for the
month of January and February. Additionally,
you have continued to ignore our requests for
campaign deployment and are still breaching
the contract by competing with us on the
e-commerce and other items; you are leaving us
no choice but to terminate your access to
protect our property babynames.com server
until all the issues are resolved.
[i think this pissed her off:]
sam 04/03/20 6:42 am oh shit
sam 04/03/20 6:42 am i found her cheating more!!
iBLAMEj00 04/03/20 6:43 am Really? how?
sam 04/03/20 6:43 am check this out
sam 04/03/20 6:43 am
Baby Names! Baby Names! Baby Names!
www.babynames.com
sam 04/03/20 6:43 am that is a file called BabyNames_ROS_CODE.shtml
sam 04/03/20 6:44 am now check out the code that calls that:
sam 04/03/20 6:44 am she loads two banners
sam 04/03/20 6:45 am she calls ROS_CODE.shtml in the first
iframe.. which has anotherbanner
sam 04/03/20 6:45 am and she has the ad in the body of the original
iframe too
sam 04/03/20 6:45 am so thats 2 banners being pulled
sam 04/03/20 6:45 am does that make sense
sam 04/03/20 6:46 am or no..its ok?
sam 04/03/20 6:48 am oh ok.. it looks ok :)
iBLAMEj00 04/03/20 6:52 am Yea, it's how the iframe thingy works.
sam 04/03/20 6:54 am i got hebus to agree to new contract.. magic:)
wipeed off 65k in debt too
iBLAMEj00 04/03/20 6:55 am You probably had to be >50% evil to do it
though =)
sam 04/03/20 6:55 am no that was 0% evil :)
sam 04/03/20 6:55 am i played a trick hehe
sam 04/03/20 6:55 am i got him to agree to a cpmU
iBLAMEj00 04/03/20 6:56 am Heh, what, he thinks he's getting $2/CPM?
sam 04/03/20 6:56 am then added like 40k of backpay (hey tahts our
#s:) .. and say ok you'd make 100k
approximately on the 31 months u have left
ok.. do it like this..
4cpmU on 31 months = 100k.. same thing
sam 04/03/20 6:56 am starting March 1
sam 04/03/20 6:56 am heh
sam 04/03/20 6:57 am no backpay nothing :)
sam 04/03/20 6:57 am and he could make more than 100k if he
increases his users:)
iBLAMEj00 04/03/20 6:57 am Yea.
sam 04/03/20 6:58 am we reduced his montly pay from 16k to
3000/month
sam 04/03/20 6:58 am everyone in the office is afraid of me now
heh.. i gave a pay cut to 5 ppl and fired 5 :)
iBLAMEj00 04/03/20 6:58 am 16k/month for hebus? Who's the idiot that did
that deal?
sam 04/03/20 6:58 am nicolas.. well when he started it wasnt that
much
sam 04/03/20 6:59 am but he grew it alot i guess.. it was basically
2cpm
sam 04/03/20 6:59 am with no caps
sam 04/03/20 6:59 am no matter, redone now..and we didnt pay him
for 5 months
sam 04/03/20 6:59 am so he says :)
sam 04/03/20 6:59 am i guess he's right.. oct, nov, dec, jan, feb
iBLAMEj00 04/03/20 6:59 am Paul from emusphere hasn't been contacted yet
about his contract.
sam 04/03/20 7:00 am oh the preacher yeah
sam 04/03/20 7:00 am he have to be nice huh :)
sam 04/03/20 7:00 am tell him to contact bryant@efront.. he should
be able to do it
sam 04/03/20 7:00 am brian welch's last day is monday
sam 04/03/20 7:00 am so bryant will have to do the rest
sam 04/03/20 7:00 am of the top sites:
megagames ok
mame pending
freevote ok
aracdeathome ok
indiamasala gone
somethingaw ok
babynames limbo
teenstation gone
beautifulwallpapers limbo [this guy has like
10 sites and he uses our sites to direct
traffic to his other sites..gabor timis.. we
gotta stop this.. maybe have him throw all his
sites together + noncompete]
emux - no clue
hebus ok
animenetwork ok
bresso -
xaviersite ok
shulu -
skinz - ok
sub-net - will be ok
demonews - ok
rpgamer -?
sam 04/03/20 7:01 am i sent that to bryant this morning.. that how
we're looking on the big sites
iBLAMEj00 04/03/20 7:01 am emux, no clue =)
sam 04/03/20 7:02 am did u see the new designs.. we're rolling it
out now.. just header/footer
sam 04/03/20 7:02 am + navigation on top
sam 04/03/20 7:02 am would leave room in the old navigation area
for campaigns
iBLAMEj00 04/03/20 7:02 am And the beautifulwallpapers guy must think
eFront is a bunch of idiots for buying just
one of his sites and then using them on each
other to make money on the side.
sam 04/03/20 7:02 am heh
sam 04/03/20 7:03 am well we havent paid him in 4-5 months..and he
didnt care i remember .. so i bet he figures
whatever he can get, would be gravy :)
iBLAMEj00 04/03/20 7:06 am Exactly.
sam 04/03/20 7:14 am i got another idea
sam 04/03/20 7:14 am (evil me)
sam 04/03/20 7:14 am i might need ur help though
sam 04/03/20 7:14 am regarding babynames
sam 04/03/20 7:15 am i was going to say.. if the ip is jennifer
looking @ babynames.. redirect it to
efront.com
sam 04/03/20 7:15 am that would put alot of pressure on her
iBLAMEj00 04/03/20 9:03 am I don't follow you.
sam 04/03/20 9:05 am if we did it so when jennifer looked @
babynames from her computer, it would redirect
to www.efront.com
so she'll think we killed babynames
would put alot of pressure on her :)
sam 04/03/20 9:05 am soo.. just find her ip address when she talks
to u on icq :)
iBLAMEj00 04/03/20 9:06 am Actually...
iBLAMEj00 04/03/20 9:08 am 109.151.229.220 - that's my laptop here
iBLAMEj00 04/03/20 9:09 am 209.151.229.1
sam 04/03/20 9:09 am your laptop?
iBLAMEj00 04/03/20 9:10 am Heh, no, these messages are from Jen =)
sam 04/03/20 9:10 am ohhh hehe
iBLAMEj00 04/03/20 9:10 am She was doing a traceroute
sam 04/03/20 9:10 am do u know how to screw her :)
sam 04/03/20 9:10 am err
iBLAMEj00 04/03/20 9:10 am The first one was wrong.
sam 04/03/20 9:10 am i mean do the thing
sam 04/03/20 9:10 am so it redirects her to www.efront.com
sam 04/03/20 9:10 am what do u think her reaction will be
iBLAMEj00 04/03/20 9:10 am Yea, that's easy.
iBLAMEj00 04/03/20 9:13 am
iBLAMEj00 04/03/20 9:13 am Just add that to the very top of her header
file.
iBLAMEj00 04/03/20 9:13 am Before EVERYTHING else.
iBLAMEj00 04/03/20 9:14 am I do that kind of shit to people all the time.
sam 04/03/20 9:15 am can i add it to her index.html
sam 04/03/20 9:15 am cuz she has an index.html that http-equiv,
refreshes to some *.php3 file
iBLAMEj00 04/03/20 9:16 am If you just add it to her index.html file,
then only that page will redirect.
iBLAMEj00 04/03/20 9:17 am Also, she does some f-ed up stuff with her
index page.
iBLAMEj00 04/03/20 9:17 am You mean she doesn't have the header as the
first thing in her index.html file?
sam 04/03/20 9:18 am
Baby Names! Baby Names! Baby Names!
www.babynames.com
Baby Names! Baby Names! Baby Names!
www.babynames.com
Baby Names! Baby Names! Baby Names!
www.babynames.com
sam 04/03/20 9:18 am so put your code on the first line huh
sam 04/03/20 9:18 am can i put the php code in an .html file?
iBLAMEj00 04/03/20 9:19 am Depends how the server is configured.
iBLAMEj00 04/03/20 9:19 am Why people don't have header includes I'll
never understand.
iBLAMEj00 04/03/20 9:21 am Search for ? in her index.html file.
sam 04/03/20 9:21 am not there
sam 04/03/20 9:21 am well ill just put it in her .php3 file
iBLAMEj00 04/03/20 9:21 am But it's got to be the VERY first thing on the
page.
iBLAMEj00 04/03/20 9:22 am Header stuff only works at the top.
iBLAMEj00 04/03/20 9:22 am If anything is sent before the header command,
it will give an error and not work.
sam 04/03/20 9:22 am whast your ip
sam 04/03/20 9:23 am heh im learning from the best :)
iBLAMEj00 04/03/20 9:23 am 206.107.239.
iBLAMEj00 04/03/20 9:23 am I gave you mine to test.
sam 04/03/20 9:23 am um.. whats the last one
sam 04/03/20 9:23 am thats only 3
iBLAMEj00 04/03/20 9:24 am Yea, her's probably changes so you just do the
first 3.
sam 04/03/20 9:24 am ohh i didnt know u coudl do that
sam 04/03/20 9:24 am geez:)
sam 04/03/20 9:24 am ok.. try it
sam 04/03/20 9:24 am did it work
iBLAMEj00 04/03/20 9:25 am No
iBLAMEj00 04/03/20 9:27 am Heh, worked now =)
sam 04/03/20 9:27 am i didnt change anythign
sam 04/03/20 9:27 am maybe refreshed or somethin
iBLAMEj00 04/03/20 9:27 am Well, it works.
sam 04/03/20 9:29 am ok she's all set up
sam 04/03/20 9:29 am we shoudl do this with more webmasters
sam 04/03/20 9:29 am if they dont sign, we'll kill their site :)
sam 04/03/20 9:29 am and demo it :)
iBLAMEj00 04/03/20 9:30 am Her IP is this: 209.151.229.220
sam 04/03/20 9:30 am yep i put it already
iBLAMEj00 04/03/20 9:30 am So make it 209.151.229.
iBLAMEj00 04/03/20 9:31 am Cool.
sam 04/03/20 9:31 am i bet she msgs you :)
sam 04/03/20 9:31 am i should turn the log on
iBLAMEj00 04/03/20 9:31 am You had it start with 209, right?
sam 04/03/20 9:31 am and see when she logs in
sam 04/03/20 9:31 am yes
iBLAMEj00 04/03/20 9:31 am She accidently dod 109 once.
iBLAMEj00 04/03/20 9:32 am It's DSL, so she has a static IP, but it's
best to do all 255 IPs, just to be sure.
iBLAMEj00 04/03/20 9:32 am I'm trying to see if she ever sent me her
sister's IP.
iBLAMEj00 04/03/20 9:33 am Not so lucky, only her IP.
sam 04/03/20 9:33 am i bet if i turn the log on
sam 04/03/20 9:33 am we could deduce it
iBLAMEj00 04/03/20 9:34 am Well, just her IP will freak her out.
sam 04/03/20 9:34 am ya i know.. what do u think she'll do :)
iBLAMEj00 04/03/20 9:34 am Even if she figures it out.
iBLAMEj00 04/03/20 9:35 am I'm sure she will assume that you redirected
it for everyone.
iBLAMEj00 04/03/20 9:35 am Then maybe in a day or so she'll have her
sister or someone test it or talk to someone
and they will say that it works.
sam 04/03/20 9:35 am i could just say ...
ok we'll take babynames down until we resolve
the issues.. could take months :)
iBLAMEj00 04/03/20 9:35 am But she'll shit herself till then =)
sam 04/03/20 9:39 am even then she wont know its ip based:)
sam 04/03/20 9:40 am we should redirect it to goatsc.cx or whatever
hehehehe
iBLAMEj00 04/03/20 9:40 am Heh, I thought that.
sam 04/03/20 9:40 am or direct it to yourbabyname.com our new site
:
sam 04/03/20 9:40 am :)
sam 04/03/20 9:40 am or babies.efront.com
sam 04/03/20 9:40 am and put more than just babynames there
iBLAMEj00 04/03/20 9:41 am That's what I do to people that are a prick,
send them to goatsc.cx.
sam 04/03/20 9:41 am and she'll think we're trying to steal all her
traffic
iBLAMEj00 04/03/20 9:41 am Heh, we are though =)
iBLAMEj00 04/03/20 9:41 am But we don't want her to know that =)
sam 04/03/20 9:41 am and she will see we have a new site up
iBLAMEj00 04/03/20 9:43 am That will give the surprise away =)
sam 04/03/20 9:45 am and bring her to the table faster :)
sam 04/03/20 9:45 am ya.. i woudlnt wanna tell her now anyways
sam 04/03/20 9:45 am it'd be better if it was like
babies.efront.com
sam 04/03/20 9:46 am and baby names was just one part of the site
sam 04/03/20 9:46 am check out crushlink.com
sam 04/03/20 9:46 am lot of $ possible with that
sam 04/03/20 9:46 am i bet there's a viral type of feature
associated with baby pics too
sam 04/03/20 9:47 am or do baby pics.. with amihotornot
and rate babies in terms of cuteness or
something 1 to 10
sam 04/03/20 9:47 am she could have made babynames really big..
lots of stuff she can do
sam 04/03/20 9:47 am what a waste of a domain name :)
iBLAMEj00 04/03/20 9:50 am Yea, lots of potential there.
sam 04/03/20 12:47 pm hehh
sam 04/03/20 12:48 pm jennifer is asking roy if we took it down :)
iBLAMEj00 04/03/20 12:48 pm Heh
sam 04/03/20 12:49 pm roy7: Did we take babynames down?
sam: is jennifer bugging you.. dont tell her
anything.. she keeps telling us 'talk to my
lawyer' when we ask her shit
sam: so i wouldnt disclose anything to her
sam: please :)
sam 04/03/20 12:49 pm talk to her maybe.. and scare her :)
sam 04/03/20 12:49 pm "i heard it'll be down until the stuff is
resolved"
iBLAMEj00 04/03/20 12:49 pm Only if she msg me =)
iBLAMEj00 04/03/20 12:49 pm If I start a conversation, she'll know we talk
too much =)
sam 04/03/20 12:50 pm heh yeah thats true
iBLAMEj00 04/03/20 12:54 pm Heh, here's a description for a site on a top
site list:
[BRITNEY'S BREASTS REVEALED] - Get out the
tissues you sick fuck!
Mind you, the webmaster created this
description to get people to come to his site
=)
sam 04/03/20 12:55 pm heh
sam 04/03/20 12:55 pm sam: is jennifer freakign out :)
roy7: Just asking me why the site is down.
sam 04/03/20 12:55 pm he he
sam 04/03/20 12:55 pm thats sicker :)
sam 04/03/20 12:55 pm we should've redirected it to like..
fatjennifer.com and have all the ways she's
cheating us
iBLAMEj00 04/03/20 12:56 pm Make sure roy doesn't even talk to her.
sam 04/03/20 12:56 pm she'll think we're making it public
sam 04/03/20 12:56 pm i know
sam 04/03/20 12:56 pm let me tell him
sam 04/03/20 1:03 pm roy7: Well we are'nt chatting any more, she
had just asked me about the site and I said it
was loading fine for me, which it is, but dns
hasn't propagated to me yet apparently.
sam 04/03/20 1:03 pm well that sux.. she thinks its a dns issue
iBLAMEj00 04/03/20 1:04 pm Roy already blew it.
sam 04/03/20 1:04 pm next time, we block roy's address too
sam 04/03/20 1:04 pm i shouldve thought of that..shucks
iBLAMEj00 04/03/20 1:04 pm Although we could tell her that we killed it,
and not everyone's DNS has changed yet =)
sam 04/03/20 1:05 pm hehe
sam 04/03/20 1:08 pm i clicked on one of ur banners on celebfoto
accidnelty heh
sam 04/03/20 1:08 pm whats the clickthru rate there
iBLAMEj00 04/03/20 1:08 pm Sucker!
iBLAMEj00 04/03/20 1:08 pm Don't know yet.
sam 04/03/20 1:09 pm hmm.. mailbits on the bottom
sam 04/03/20 1:09 pm they have 2 buttons for u to use for sending
sam 04/03/20 1:09 pm and its an offer
sam 04/03/20 1:12 pm i think i found out how to make tons of $$
iBLAMEj00 04/03/20 1:12 pm Yea, too bad they only pay .15 per sign-up.
sam 04/03/20 1:12 pm there are millions of cpa type offers right
sam 04/03/20 1:13 pm well, compile an email list of 10 million
emails
sam 04/03/20 1:13 pm and send stand-alone offers
sam 04/03/20 1:13 pm i can get my hands on 3 million emails already
sam 04/03/20 1:13 pm btw, try this out
sam 04/03/20 1:13 pm sign up for the @backup affiliate program
sam 04/03/20 1:13 pm its $15 per signup
sam 04/03/20 1:13 pm next to your downloads
iBLAMEj00 04/03/20 1:13 pm Yea, and those cpa offers won't pay you then
because at least one person will complain to
them that it was spam.
sam 04/03/20 1:13 pm see how many ppl sign up?
sam 04/03/20 1:14 pm the cpa ppl shouldnt care cuz its performance
based
iBLAMEj00 04/03/20 1:14 pm @backup really pay? I mean $15 when xdrive is
paying like $0.75?
sam 04/03/20 1:14 pm we'd get direct deals
sam 04/03/20 1:15 pm @backup has been around forever.. its not
online backup.. i think for ur harddrive
sam 04/03/20 1:16 pm but yeah.. its always a problem.. trying to
collect
iBLAMEj00 04/03/20 1:18 pm That's probably why emux has left the face of
the earth, he's probably been making $30k on
the side with @backup =)
sam 04/03/20 1:18 pm where is his @backup
iBLAMEj00 04/03/20 1:19 pm I know he used to have it all over the place.
sam 04/03/20 1:19 pm i bet u could signup alot of ppll.. since aah
is a download site
iBLAMEj00 04/03/20 1:19 pm I bet you will get no sign-ups.
sam 04/03/20 1:19 pm we should replace our xdrive with @backup
sam 04/03/20 1:19 pm heh
sam 04/03/20 1:19 pm how come
iBLAMEj00 04/03/20 1:20 pm It doesn't seem to allow you to back stuff up
from the net.
iBLAMEj00 04/03/20 1:20 pm Just from your system.
iBLAMEj00 04/03/20 1:20 pm And their cheapest package is $99/year
iBLAMEj00 04/03/20 1:21 pm And I don't even see an affiliate link on
their site.
sam 04/03/20 1:22 pm roy told me bout it.. letme ask him
sam 04/03/20 1:23 pm i just told scott about buying his site back
sam 04/03/20 1:23 pm that he's gotta pay us back :)
sam 04/03/20 1:24 pm maybe you can take over emux:)
sam 04/03/20 1:24 pm ill see if we can get out of the contract w/
him maybe?
iBLAMEj00 04/03/20 1:24 pm I don't know what happened to him, maybe he
died or something.
sam 04/03/20 1:24 pm ya.. last update seems to be jan 24
sam 04/03/20 1:25 pm at least he's not bugging about payments..
heh.. to reduce payments, we can send assaisns
out to kill all the webmasters ..err most :)
sam 04/03/20 1:26 pm that remote_Addr stuff is so powerful......
thats how advertising should be
sam 04/03/20 1:27 pm like selected users, send them somewhere
sam 04/03/20 1:27 pm or show them something
iBLAMEj00 04/03/20 1:28 pm Heh, doubleclick does that.
sam 04/03/20 1:28 pm oh u mean through profiline?
sam 04/03/20 1:28 pm er..profiling?
iBLAMEj00 04/03/20 1:28 pm They track you with cookies and IP and serve
you ads based on what you clicked before.
sam 04/03/20 1:28 pm ya
iBLAMEj00 04/03/20 1:28 pm Yea, but it's useless these days.
sam 04/03/20 1:29 pm or just send 1% of your users somewhere :)
sam 04/03/20 1:29 pm siphon off 1% of your users and make money :)
sam 04/03/20 1:29 pm heh cpc deals :) i guess that would be
cheating
iBLAMEj00 04/03/20 1:30 pm Heh, like TheCoolHost does.
sam 04/03/20 1:30 pm there is a diff though
iBLAMEj00 04/03/20 1:30 pm I got his latest script, he's such a cheater.
sam 04/03/20 1:30 pm if u send the users.. they may actually get
interested
iBLAMEj00 04/03/20 1:30 pm One person in 74 clicks on a banner, like it
or not.
sam 04/03/20 1:30 pm but does he send the users there
sam 04/03/20 1:30 pm or not really
iBLAMEj00 04/03/20 1:30 pm Which gives him a nice 1.35% CTR.
iBLAMEj00 04/03/20 1:31 pm Nope, doesn't send the users there, just sets
an image with the click-thru code.
iBLAMEj00 04/03/20 1:31 pm And ad companies will send him more banners
because his CTR is higher.
sam 04/03/20 1:32 pm i knwo
sam 04/03/20 1:33 pm who does he use now
sam 04/03/20 1:33 pm man this sucks.. sometimes cheating does pay
off
iBLAMEj00 04/03/20 1:33 pm ad.net
iBLAMEj00 04/03/20 1:34 pm I can't think if it's advertising or
adwhatever.net.
iBLAMEj00 04/03/20 1:34 pm something like that.
sam 04/03/20 1:35 pm Scott -Game Rankings: Hmmmm, I think I will
tell my current employer that I will work for
just my stock options every week and they can
keep my paycheck.
sam 04/03/20 1:36 pm heh
sam 04/03/20 1:36 pm he's the one who signed it
sam 04/03/20 1:36 pm fucker
sam 04/03/20 1:36 pm he's screwed :)
sam 04/03/20 2:58 pm can you add a find a job
sam 04/03/20 2:58 pm to your site
sam 04/03/20 2:58 pm navigation
sam 04/03/20 2:58 pm as part of the menu
iBLAMEj00 04/03/20 2:58 pm Yea
sam 04/03/20 2:59 pm http://www.efront.com/affiliates/search.php?af
il=1300&url=http://careers.efront.com/
sam 04/03/20 2:59 pm but use a affil of 1299
iBLAMEj00 04/03/20 3:00 pm okay, sec, in the middle of something...
sam 04/03/20 3:00 pm take your time..
sam 05/03/20 1:27 am negotiatingn w/ another webmaster right now :)
iBLAMEj00 05/03/20 11:20 am ascii version of goatsex:
http://www.steakandcheese.com/
sam 05/03/20 11:20 am send that to jennifer
iBLAMEj00 05/03/20 11:21 am heh
sam 05/03/20 11:21 am all the webmasters are planning a legal
atatack everyone is telling me lol
iBLAMEj00 05/03/20 11:22 am Have them give you a list of who's planning to
be part of it so you can stop payment on their
checks.
sam 05/03/20 11:22 am well the ones who signed up havent done that
sam 05/03/20 11:23 am they're all coopearing
sam 05/03/20 11:23 am hey check this out
sam 05/03/20 11:23 am http://www.efront.com/affiliates/search.php?af
il=1300&url=http://efront.careercast.com/texis
js?q=game&qField=All
sam 05/03/20 11:23 am im having harsha add it to megagames menu
sam 05/03/20 11:23 am and i will co-brand the results page to look
like megagames
sam 05/03/20 11:23 am so it doesnt seem like an ad
sam 05/03/20 11:23 am and it will say 'game jobs'
sam 05/03/20 11:23 am cool huh?
iBLAMEj00 05/03/20 11:23 am Yea, looks strangely like my search highlight
=)
sam 05/03/20 11:25 am heh yeah
what keyword do u want to use for aah?
iBLAMEj00 05/03/20 11:25 am porn
iBLAMEj00 05/03/20 11:25 am I want a job in the porn industry.
iBLAMEj00 05/03/20 11:25 am Not filming, I want to star in it.
sam 05/03/20 11:25 am no result sorry.. i tried
iBLAMEj00 05/03/20 11:25 am DAMN!
iBLAMEj00 05/03/20 11:25 am That career site sucks!
sam 05/03/20 11:26 am heh how come
iBLAMEj00 05/03/20 11:26 am No porn!
sam 05/03/20 11:26 am it makes more $ than porn :)
iBLAMEj00 05/03/20 11:26 am Heh
iBLAMEj00 05/03/20 11:26 am I don't know, porn's the only thing manking
money on the net. =)
iBLAMEj00 05/03/20 11:27 am Been doing it from day one.
sam 05/03/20 11:27 am maybe you should create PornAtHome.com ?
iBLAMEj00 05/03/20 11:27 am Hmmm...
iBLAMEj00 05/03/20 11:28 am taken
iBLAMEj00 05/03/20 11:31 am Did a cheat script for the AutoRank Pro top
site program. Most celeb/babe sites use this
script:
http://www.undeniable.com/topsites/list.html
I'm the #2 site with my fake Britney picture
=)
iBLAMEj00 05/03/20 11:32 am I probably sent them like 5 real votes today,
but it shows 443 =)
sam 05/03/20 11:32 am geez:)
can you do that for babies.efront.com too
sam 05/03/20 11:32 am like get us alot of traffic:)
iBLAMEj00 05/03/20 11:33 am Heh, we could kick-ass if I could do it in
other industries.
sam 05/03/20 11:33 am you're worth your weight in gold:)
sam 05/03/20 11:33 am 5500/mo isnt a p roblem.. when are u sending
the contract in:)
iBLAMEj00 05/03/20 11:33 am I guess we could put babynames.efront.com on a
"babe" top site =)
iBLAMEj00 05/03/20 11:34 am But you would get empty hits.
sam 05/03/20 11:34 am heh
iBLAMEj00 05/03/20 11:34 am Horny teenaged boys instead of soon to be
mothers =)
iBLAMEj00 05/03/20 11:37 am I've got to finish the contract. Been so busy
with other stuff that I haven't had a chance
to finish it.
sam 05/03/20 11:37 am DigitalFury: yeah, you really need to get
those pissed off webmasters cooled down... the
efront forums are full of them, they seem to
be wanting to sue efront
sam 05/03/20 11:37 am got any good ideas on how to cool the flames?
iBLAMEj00 05/03/20 11:37 am Other than pay them in full? =)
sam 05/03/20 11:38 am of course
iBLAMEj00 05/03/20 11:38 am heh
sam 05/03/20 11:38 am they're getting paid in full w/ abaseball
bat:)
iBLAMEj00 05/03/20 11:38 am I say get all the larger sites on-board and
cut your losses with the smaller sites and let
them go. Not worth the trouble.
sam 05/03/20 11:38 am yeah thats what ive been doing really
sam 05/03/20 11:39 am so scott gr just let him go?
iBLAMEj00 05/03/20 11:39 am Then just allow them to have their site back,
forgive dept, and sign that they can't discuss
it.
iBLAMEj00 05/03/20 11:40 am I would call Scott part of the group that we
want.
sam 05/03/20 11:40 am yeah.. too bad he's so uncooperative..
sam 05/03/20 11:40 am i spent 2 hrs with another big site this
afternoon
sam 05/03/20 11:40 am and got them on board
sam 05/03/20 11:40 am not sure what we can do w/ scott
iBLAMEj00 05/03/20 11:40 am Who dat?
iBLAMEj00 05/03/20 11:41 am What about MAME.DK?
sam 05/03/20 11:41 am indianmasala.com .. i would have let them go..
but they wanted payments, blahblah..and brian
couldnt deal w/ them so he sent to me.. its
cheaper to keep them with reduced pay..and its
30k uniques a day
sam 05/03/20 11:41 am mame.dk.. i have to talk to him too
sam 05/03/20 11:41 am i think Will Bryant will be passing him onto
me
iBLAMEj00 05/03/20 11:42 am Heh, here's a love e-mail I got today:
Excuse me you little bitch? Maybe you should
say that to my face instead of
hiding behind your fucking comp. Incase you
didn't know my site is nothing
but making fun of your site with everything
opposite you dumb fuck. Bring
my mother into another conversation and see
what I post on my website that
has had over 970,000 people within a week of
it's opening, and i dont even
have all the roms posted up yet. So just
remember that, cause judging by
your hits? I should top you in 5 weeks, just
how long it took me to get
your mom's edible panties in the mail.
sam 05/03/20 11:42 am heh
sam 05/03/20 11:42 am from mame??
iBLAMEj00 05/03/20 11:43 am Heh, no.
iBLAMEj00 05/03/20 11:43 am From some guy that e-mailed me.
iBLAMEj00 05/03/20 11:43 am he asked how I would feel if he posted
"ARCADEATHOME IS SHIT" on his site.
iBLAMEj00 05/03/20 11:43 am I told him that I didn't care because only him
and his mom would ever read it.
iBLAMEj00 05/03/20 11:43 am And above was his reply to that =)
sam 05/03/20 11:44 am haha
iBLAMEj00 05/03/20 11:45 am I just replied
iBLAMEj00 05/03/20 11:45 am "You mom hitting refresh 970,000 times doesn't
count."
sam 05/03/20 11:45 am i guess he must be screwing his mom or
something to respond liek that
iBLAMEj00 05/03/20 11:45 am I think he REALLY loves his mother, REALLY
loves her.
iBLAMEj00 05/03/20 11:48 am Just got accepted into another top site list,
time to double my hits again.
iBLAMEj00 05/03/20 11:49 am What's funny is that you can get the code for
these top sites because it's the same script
that everyone has. So it's easy to find ways
around the anti-cheating script. I can cheat
on three different top site scripts that are
supposed to be cheat proof =)
sam 05/03/20 11:49 am beautilfulcelebrities.com webmaster is the
worst.. i wonder if we can terminate him
sam 05/03/20 11:49 am heh
sam 05/03/20 11:50 am with celebfotos we dont need other celeb site
iBLAMEj00 05/03/20 11:50 am I don't have the traffic that he has, yet.
sam 05/03/20 11:51 am he doesnt have that much
iBLAMEj00 05/03/20 11:51 am I need to be on about 5 more top sites, then
give it a month or two for the search engine
spiders to kick in.
sam 05/03/20 11:51 am did u see his stats on sam.php3
iBLAMEj00 05/03/20 11:51 am Yea, because he just points all his traffic to
his other sites
iBLAMEj00 05/03/20 11:51 am That jackass should just get his site taken
from him.
sam 05/03/20 11:51 am no i dont mean gabor timis
iBLAMEj00 05/03/20 11:51 am Oh, I thought that was him.
sam 05/03/20 11:51 am i mean beautifulcelebrities.com
sam 05/03/20 11:51 am some other stupid jerkoff
sam 05/03/20 11:52 am some snotty 16 yr old kid w/ a lawyer for a da
sam 05/03/20 11:52 am ada
sam 05/03/20 11:52 am a dad
iBLAMEj00 05/03/20 11:52 am Well, anyone that runs a celeb site is a
stupid jerkoff.
sam 05/03/20 11:52 am hehe. um.. :)
iBLAMEj00 05/03/20 11:53 am Er, I mean...
iBLAMEj00 05/03/20 11:53 am Oh, that site, I ripped all his images a long
time ago.
sam 05/03/20 11:55 am yeah he's a freak.. he actually accepted the
new contract then got all pissy
iBLAMEj00 05/03/20 11:56 am That site is still a little bigger than
celebfoto.com, but not by much and not for
long.
sam 05/03/20 11:57 am his site is so slow
sam 05/03/20 11:57 am maye he's still using akamai
sam 05/03/20 11:57 am his images dont load up
iBLAMEj00 05/03/20 11:57 am It's fine here.
sam 05/03/20 11:58 am how can you get tons of trafic to
careers.efront.com
sam 05/03/20 11:59 am (not empty traffic)
sam 05/03/20 11:59 am talking about other industries..
sam 05/03/20 11:59 am we get $45 cpm on that
sam 05/03/20 11:59 am 5cpm on all the small badgees
sam 05/03/20 11:59 am we have to make it legit.. otherwise, if the
conversion isnt there.. theyse job boards can
cancel the contracts..and the contracts are
all 1 year deals right now
sam 05/03/20 12:00 pm if they get qualified career traffic...they'll
bemore than happy
sam 05/03/20 12:00 pm and we can sign on more job boards too
sam 05/03/20 12:00 pm so my idea was to add find a job to all the
navigation first on all the sites
iBLAMEj00 05/03/20 12:00 pm Yea, that will help.
sam 05/03/20 12:00 pm but can we do something w/ search engines,
spidering, top lists, etc
sam 05/03/20 12:00 pm like using your magic
iBLAMEj00 05/03/20 12:01 pm If search engines hit the site, we could
develop a version of the front page that would
help the spiders find everything and give it a
bunch of key words.
iBLAMEj00 05/03/20 12:02 pm I don't think there are job top site lists.
iBLAMEj00 05/03/20 12:02 pm That's a good way to prey on the traffic of
amature sites (like games, celeb, etc).
iBLAMEj00 05/03/20 12:02 pm But there's really not amature career sites.
iBLAMEj00 05/03/20 12:02 pm Maybe there is.
iBLAMEj00 05/03/20 12:16 pm We should also do some text only careers
banners.
iBLAMEj00 05/03/20 12:17 pm Like check out my #1 listing on this top site
list =)
http://topsites.purecelebrity.com/
sam 05/03/20 12:17 pm have u noticed most of the defaults are
killed:) i assigned someone to it last week
and said i dont want any defaults.. get 15
cent cpc stuff if u have to.. lets make money
iBLAMEj00 05/03/20 12:18 pm I even did the background color right. I get
more click throughs with that than those
flashing animated banners, even when I was
below them on the list.
sam 05/03/20 12:18 pm pretty good banner!
iBLAMEj00 05/03/20 12:18 pm Yea, I've found that sucky banners get more
click-thrus.
iBLAMEj00 05/03/20 12:19 pm Flashy good looking ones get no clicks.
sam 05/03/20 12:19 pm we should have like the best jobs
sam 05/03/20 12:19 pm like 9 jobs everyone watns
iBLAMEj00 05/03/20 12:19 pm Yea, just listed just like that
sam 05/03/20 12:19 pm and put them like u have it
iBLAMEj00 05/03/20 12:19 pm Yup.
sam 05/03/20 12:19 pm what are the most popular jobs :)
iBLAMEj00 05/03/20 12:19 pm I'm not the guy to ask.
sam 05/03/20 12:19 pm hehe..
iBLAMEj00 05/03/20 12:20 pm I'm sure career boy can answer that.
iBLAMEj00 05/03/20 12:20 pm Remember, I wanted porn jobs, that were not
even listed.
sam 05/03/20 12:20 pm ya ill find out
iBLAMEj00 05/03/20 12:20 pm Unless, they are listed and you just wanted
the jobs all to yourself!
iBLAMEj00 05/03/20 12:20 pm BASTARD!
iBLAMEj00 05/03/20 12:21 pm Damn, you're right, no porn jobs.
sam 05/03/20 12:21 pm how did u know..shucks.. u found out
iBLAMEj00 05/03/20 12:21 pm I got something that you can do tomorrow first
thing.
sam 05/03/20 12:22 pm whats that
iBLAMEj00 05/03/20 12:22 pm Make the web guide look just like the
right-hand side of www.efront.com
iBLAMEj00 05/03/20 12:22 pm At least for now.
iBLAMEj00 05/03/20 12:22 pm Cause we are sending all our traffic to
non-paying campaigns and gamerankings.
iBLAMEj00 05/03/20 12:23 pm Like we are a bunch of idiots.
iBLAMEj00 05/03/20 12:23 pm And if you can't get it done, get me access to
the web guide server and I'll hard-code the
freaking thing.
sam 05/03/20 12:23 pm PLEASE Make the web guide look just like the
right-hand side of www.efront.com are your
first priority!!
thanks
[i just sent to nate]
iBLAMEj00 05/03/20 12:24 pm Heh
sam 05/03/20 12:24 pm yeah ill get on him tomorrow until he gets it
done
iBLAMEj00 05/03/20 12:24 pm That should be easy, just cut and paste.
iBLAMEj00 05/03/20 12:24 pm And I think we could actually make something
off that.
iBLAMEj00 05/03/20 12:24 pm Stick offers like that on the right.
sam 05/03/20 12:25 pm we need a new trafifc/implementatino
department.. im trying to figure out how to
organize it.. its so slow right now :)
yeah, that would be good
iBLAMEj00 05/03/20 12:25 pm I know some sites are doing nothing but that,
no banners, no pop-ups.
iBLAMEj00 05/03/20 12:25 pm And they make good money doing it.
iBLAMEj00 05/03/20 12:25 pm And they are just using external deals where
they make like $1 per sign-up.
sam 05/03/20 12:25 pm yeah thats what i wanted to do for awhile.. i
had told nate to do it a month ago
iBLAMEj00 05/03/20 12:26 pm Well, if I get a chance and if Nate doesn't do
it, I'll try it with a company to see what
kind of conversion we get.
sam 05/03/20 12:26 pm yeah try it out.. valueclick has a program
like that now too
sam 05/03/20 12:26 pm see how that works?
sam 05/03/20 12:26 pm using zmedia.com
sam 05/03/20 12:26 pm they bought out recently
iBLAMEj00 05/03/20 12:29 pm Yea, that's what I was going to use.
sam 05/03/20 12:30 pm try it out.. so we can learn what they're
doing
iBLAMEj00 05/03/20 12:30 pm They look VERY similar to that PS2
www.efront.com thing.
sam 05/03/20 12:30 pm and see the rates etc
sam 05/03/20 12:30 pm yeah they d
sam 05/03/20 12:30 pm yeah they do
sam 05/03/20 12:30 pm i fwd their email to our d.m. group a few
weeks ago and told them to get it up on all
the sites like vc is doing :)
sam 05/03/20 12:30 pm babynames pvs cut down by 30% :)
sam 05/03/20 12:30 pm cuz no refresh
iBLAMEj00 05/03/20 12:31 pm Heh, poor Jen =)
iBLAMEj00 05/03/20 12:31 pm But you also increased the CTR so she'll
probably make more =)
iBLAMEj00 05/03/20 12:32 pm That e-mail from Beautiful Celebrities is
funny.
iBLAMEj00 05/03/20 12:33 pm I want to see him apply to doubleclick.
iBLAMEj00 05/03/20 12:33 pm Actually, I encurage it.
sam 05/03/20 12:34 pm i know .. i told Bryant that too
sam 05/03/20 12:56 pm btw what cpm is cj paying
sam 05/03/20 12:58 pm http://www2.marketwatch.com/news/yhoo/story.as
?source=blq/yhoo&siteid=yhoo&dist=yhoo&guid=%7
CFE69522%2DA20B%2D4578%2D8BE5%2D4F5CB74BF8F1%7
sam 05/03/20 12:59 pm the top sites lose traffic :)
iBLAMEj00 05/03/20 1:05 pm Good for us =)
sam 05/03/20 1:05 pm so mailbits gets free popups huh
sam 05/03/20 1:06 pm i was looking @ anna k. on celeb foto, clicked
on send a friend heh
sam 05/03/20 1:08 pm u have so many celebs..heh
and jarret did it for a year and only has like
30 celebs.. lazy bastard
sam 05/03/20 1:09 pm sam: our newest site celebfoto.com
Kristy: youre going to get sued
Kristy: i would recommend gettng it out of
efronts name.. if it is
sam: um sure
Kristy: you are..
Kristy: we own eroticcelebs.com
Kristy: we just got sued :P
sam: from who
sam: did you ignore the warning letter or
sometrhing
Kristy: no warning letter issued
Kristy: its not a law..
sam: well duh.. who sued you
Kristy: if its copyright infringement over 75k
Kristy: perfect10.com
sam 05/03/20 1:11 pm well u stole their pics thats why :)
sam 05/03/20 1:11 pm ours are all public domain stuff
sam 05/03/20 1:24 pm yahoo sux.. so slow today
iBLAMEj00 05/03/20 1:36 pm Who's Kristy?
iBLAMEj00 05/03/20 1:37 pm Heh eroticcelebs you have to pay to enter.
sam 05/03/20 1:38 pm some chick i know..
yeah .. its hard to believe ppl sue you before
notifying you :)
iBLAMEj00 05/03/20 1:38 pm I've never heard of someone being sued over a
picture on the web.
iBLAMEj00 05/03/20 1:39 pm I've heard of someone asking them to take
certain pictures down or add a copyright
notice.
iBLAMEj00 05/03/20 1:39 pm Just look at all the celeb sites eFront has,
how many letters has eFront got about the
copyright issue?
sam 05/03/20 1:39 pm ya i know.. none
iBLAMEj00 05/03/20 1:41 pm And I think most photographers love it.
sam 05/03/20 1:41 pm ya me 2
sam 05/03/20 1:41 pm go to perfect10.com
iBLAMEj00 05/03/20 1:41 pm Because if there's a celeb picture that
everyone knows about, then they can easily get
more business.
sam 05/03/20 1:41 pm heh they put a warning msg on the cover
iBLAMEj00 05/03/20 1:42 pm Perfect 10 is porn.
iBLAMEj00 05/03/20 1:43 pm http://perfect10.com/perfectten/p10_pages/samp
e.html
iBLAMEj00 05/03/20 1:44 pm And they own the images, and make money off
them.
sam 05/03/20 1:44 pm ya..
if u go to clubs.yahoo.com u can get alot of
their images
sam 05/03/20 1:45 pm if we had our own egroups and clubs and stuff,
we'd get alot of hits
sam 05/03/20 1:46 pm chicks boxing topless and playing basketball
sounds good though
iBLAMEj00 05/03/20 1:49 pm Yea, is there a career for that?
sam 05/03/20 1:49 pm photographer
iBLAMEj00 05/03/20 1:50 pm No, being involved in it.
sam 05/03/20 2:05 pm so goto.com minimu bid is 1 cent huh?
that sucks
iBLAMEj00 05/03/20 2:05 pm No, it's 0.05 now.
sam 05/03/20 2:06 pm thats dumb
sam 05/03/20 2:07 pm i wanted to load up goto.com with career jobs
:)
sam 05/03/20 2:10 pm have u ever done a demographic survey for aah
users
iBLAMEj00 05/03/20 2:10 pm Yea
iBLAMEj00 05/03/20 2:10 pm My trivia game records it.
sam 05/03/20 2:10 pm whats the demos like
iBLAMEj00 05/03/20 2:14 pm 98.5% male
41.0% 18-25
25.0% 26-29
29.9% 30-39
64.0% single
31.4% married
66.5% no kids
33.5% 1 or more
39.9% Some College
25.2% Bachelors
18.9% High School
11.7% Graduate Degre
4.3% Grammer/middle school
36.8% Own
38.0% Rent
And about an even number of people that make
from uder $15k to $69k (I have that broke down
also).
iBLAMEj00 05/03/20 2:15 pm Highest are:
17.9% make $30-39k
14.2% make $16-29k
12.7% make $50-59k
12.3% make under $15k
11.0% make $40-49k
9.8% make $60-69k
iBLAMEj00 06/03/20 12:48 am House payment just bounced :/
sam 06/03/20 11:19 am got the babynames settlement letter today :)
wonder if i should press them to repay what we
paid them already
sam 06/03/20 12:50 pm i got another site you might want to run..
with a top list and all :)